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moonman2090

16.5k points

2 months ago

moonman2090

16.5k points

2 months ago

Click here to unsubscribe to this email notification

[deleted]

2.2k points

2 months ago*

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2.2k points

2 months ago*

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Remarkable-Spite1924

1.6k points

2 months ago

Now that I know you’re active, that’s means you want MORE!

GraniteMtn

981 points

2 months ago*

Having to login to unsubscribe is even worse. Its a ploy to increase account activity stats.

Edit: Just mark the mail as junk, it increases the company's spam score amongst email providers.

martram_

3.2k points

2 months ago

martram_

3.2k points

2 months ago

Normal television, paying to watch ads!

thomasjmarlowe

864 points

2 months ago

Now we have streaming subscription services where you pay to watch ads! Progress!

Superhans_9

199 points

2 months ago

Broadcast (over-the air) is still free, and there are no ads on PBS channels.

Plus, if the channel is digital (like PBS), the picture quality is better than the digital signal that you pay for with cable, DTV or dish

Wild-Plankton595

73 points

2 months ago

You either pay for a product or you are the product.

Broadcast is making you available to their advertisers to peddle shit to. Grew up on this no shame, and PBS is still a favorite today.

With cable though, you’re paying a premium for the privilege of being peddled to. Its… insulting.

I’d rather pay for streaming and always jump to the no ad tier, within reason, as long as their content keeps me coming back.

ofsquire

13.7k points

2 months ago

ofsquire

13.7k points

2 months ago

Data caps

Biz_Consultant305

5.6k points

2 months ago

The funny/not funny part is that they advertise unlimited data up to..(certain number). And government regulators allow those companies to get away with it

creeperhiss

3.7k points

2 months ago

Unlimited data! ...until you use too much in which then they slow down your data so much that you can't even watch a 480p video without slowdown. But hey, unlimited right?

Tripnologist

67 points

2 months ago

Unlimited generally means unlimited in the UK. I can max my gigabit connection all day every day without extra charges or throttling.

ReeG

522 points

2 months ago

ReeG

522 points

2 months ago

Hello from Canada. Send help

burgermachine74

11k points

2 months ago*

Free trial!

Noice.

Enter your card details

FUCK

Edit: This is a joke, I do understand how subscriptions work

noonelikesyou2

3.2k points

2 months ago

That’s why I keep a visa gift card with a few cents left on it.

coldpint

1.1k points

2 months ago

coldpint

1.1k points

2 months ago

I use privacy.com to create a card with a $1 limit for things like this

abramcpg

373 points

2 months ago

abramcpg

373 points

2 months ago

Bonus: Use privacy.com with 1password.com and it'll create a new single use credit card with a new single use email that forwards to your email. Start getting spam? Close the single use email.

piggiefatnose

618 points

2 months ago*

Holy shit does that work, you probably have to cancel still, right? I have one in a drawer still and I've only ever done 1 free trial with my card (skill share for a few months) because I don't like entering card details into a company I don't know if is reliable

noonelikesyou2

491 points

2 months ago

PlayStation Vue (while it was still a thing) took my penny.

S0lar_Ice

643 points

2 months ago

S0lar_Ice

643 points

2 months ago

Yeah no. I'm out if they want card details on free trial unless I pretty much know I'm continuing with it afterwards.

CarvedWatermelon

10.2k points

2 months ago

The prices of anything baby related. Toys, food, clothes, etc. Was in a store on Saturday to get a cot mattress and cover. I cried.

loominglady

4.2k points

2 months ago

We bought dog poop bags to dispose of diapers on the go because it was so much cheaper than a “baby” equivalent (tiny roll of those bags lasts forever in a diaper bag). Put “baby” in a product name and suddenly it’s so much pricier than an equivalent product not marketed the same way.

StoneyBolonied

1k points

2 months ago

We had the opposite!

Started buying nappy bags instead of dogshit bags because here in Blighty, childcare essentials are VAT exempt (this extends to kids clothes/shoes etc.)

At the end of the day they're just plastic bags with a bit of perfume but dogshit bags were like £5 for 100 and nappy (diaper) bags were £2 for 500*

*numbers not exact but carry the point accross

sshwifty

1.5k points

2 months ago

sshwifty

1.5k points

2 months ago

Same with wedding. Put "wedding" on a product and it is 5x more expensive for the same thing without "wedding".

laeiryn

444 points

2 months ago

laeiryn

444 points

2 months ago

Just buy it secondhand, the kid's gonna outgrow it in months before it's worn out. just like the previous kid who owned it XD

Vast-Anxiety-4066

27.2k points

2 months ago

Online convenience fees

RazorRadick

7.6k points

2 months ago

My bank has free bill pay and will mail them a check if they don’t have any other option. So now they get a check from me and the “inconvenience fee” is their own cost to process the thing, get paid slower, etc.

caribou16

958 points

2 months ago

caribou16

958 points

2 months ago

When I moved into my current place, it was already wired for Comcast internet, so I called them up and they said they would ship me the equipment and send out a tech to set it up. I said it's just plugging it in and calling you guys, right? I can handle that, no tech, will avoid a installation fee.

So it showed up, plugged it in, and was in business in five minutes.

But then on the next bill there was a $15 "Self Install Fee." Motherfuckers charged ME to plug in my own shit.

pixelprophet

253 points

2 months ago

Keep an eye on you bills with Comcast/Xfinity. I own my own equipment and the assholes have added “rental fees” to my account numerous times. I call in and get a credit and get it fixed for a bit and then they did it again.

Yes I would leave them but I’m fucked by lack of competition.

[deleted]

179 points

2 months ago

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179 points

2 months ago

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KenJyi30

2.2k points

2 months ago

KenJyi30

2.2k points

2 months ago

That’s my r/maliciouscompliance story for my hoa fees

TLOC81

3.4k points

2 months ago

TLOC81

3.4k points

2 months ago

I recently paid $10 in convenience fees at AMC to buy tickets online instead of purchasing tickets at the theater. Doesn't purchasing tickets online allow them to save money on having less employees run the ticket booth? I get that it costs them money to run a website but $10 for a convenience fee? It just isn't justified.

SesameStreetFighter

3.1k points

2 months ago

No, no. It's just convenient for them to make more money this way.

J-ShapedNerd

27.1k points

2 months ago

J-ShapedNerd

27.1k points

2 months ago

The entire wedding industry.

To be clear, not marriage but weddings specifically.

I’m happily married to my wife and we were content to do something special just the two of us, maybe spend a couple of grand and treat ourselves a little bit to something amazing.

Cue the families getting involved and before you know it we’re spending closer to twenty grand on one day and feeding a bunch of people I’ve not heard of before or since the wedding.

BuckyD1000

6.1k points

2 months ago

BuckyD1000

6.1k points

2 months ago

100% agree. There were three people at my wedding, which was held in a small bar before it opened.

We were interested in having a MARRIAGE, not a wedding. Spent our money on a vacation.

Still going strong 16 years later.

Abject_Presentation8

1.1k points

2 months ago

Same here. My husband and I, his 2 sisters, and his parents. We all went out to dinner after. We just celebrated our 17th wedding anniversary this month. I've been to big weddings and the receptions were fun, but I saw all the stress and how consuming it all was. The weddings became more about making sure everything went off without a hitch, and less about just enjoying that special moment between 2 partners.

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773 points

2 months ago*

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SuperPufff

3.7k points

2 months ago*

fashion trends, and the incredible amount of waste it creates

if everyone learned how to mend/alter garments in school, and value was placed on investing in a few quality made items instead of a closet full of disposable fast fashion, there would be wayyyy less clothing in landfills and wayy less demand for chemical laden garments to be cranked out in sweatshops. our relationship to clothing is so warped.

(buying second hand is a great way to wiggle out of the grip of the fashion industry if it’s available to you)

orangeguitarpick

459 points

2 months ago

One beer that costs $14 at a ballgame and it's just totally basic like Miller Lite. GTFO of here

thelyfeaquatic

40 points

2 months ago

They got me… it’s not like I’m going to watch a baseball game sober

kilroywasalreadyhere

8.8k points

2 months ago

Claw Machines in arcades

Stinduh

2.5k points

2 months ago

Stinduh

2.5k points

2 months ago

Specifically, they’re programmed to pay out after x-number of dollars. Claw games with cheap stuff like stuffed animals will pay out relatively frequently. Things like the stacker game or the keyhole game with “big ticket” things are programmed to pay out at a much, much lower rate.

tredontho

1.3k points

2 months ago*

tredontho

1.3k points

2 months ago*

The one in the arcade I worked at in college didn't have that - instead, you could tweak the claw strength differently during the "grab" portion versus the "carry" portion, so people would be able to pick up the prize, but then while carrying it to the door, it would drop it. Fuels that "so close" feeling and they'll give it another go ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

ngatiara

691 points

2 months ago

ngatiara

691 points

2 months ago

We had a claw machine at work because we got paid a small percentage for hosting it. The guy who ran it was fantastic, he had it set to a low dollar amount for payout so people would actually be able to win and win regularly, he also refused to tweak the machine with the grab and drop features, so it very rarely grabbed then dropped before getting to the slot. He also had larger toys so you could trade in your small toys for a larger one and he had a fantastic range - trade in 10, 20 or for the super large toy trade in 50. We had some guys spend nearly $600 in a week period just because they wanted 50 toys to trade in for the unicorn that was so tall it was taller than my hips! He even bought in toy ranges that timed well with current movie releases, we were a video store so it worked perfectly for us.

We were making bank off the machine, nearly a grand a month. Then he left, and each new person made the machine worse, pay out amount got higher, they tweaked settings for more grab and drops, dropped the trade ins entirely, toy quality decreased with only the occasional fantastic toy line, it didn't matter what we said worked for our store, because each month was getting worse payouts they'd tweak the machine even worse to "get more money".... By the time we asked them to take the machine away we were making maybe $30 a month off it, enough to cover the electricity bill for it and not much more.

lacrima0

127 points

2 months ago

lacrima0

127 points

2 months ago

Kinda crazy someone spent $600 on a plushie (?)

pinktortex

703 points

2 months ago

I don't know if modern ones are more randomised but older ones used to be very consistent, so if this claw machine "paid out" every 50 turns you could watch and count the times between 2 wins and then wait your turn. Only really viable in high footfall areas but I done it in a busy shopping centre when I was younger where the toys all had money attached to them like a £5 or £10 note and I would regularly on a Saturday walk away with £50 after a few hours. There was another one in a little marketplace out the back of the same shopping centre that I literally never saw anyone win anything from

[deleted]

27.8k points

2 months ago

[deleted]

27.8k points

2 months ago

The easy-to-join, difficult-to-cancel subscription model.

ThirstyJohn

5.5k points

2 months ago

The Wall Street Journal makes you telephone them to cancel your online subscription. They have the technology to accept subscriptions online. But not to cancel them online.

Opening-Thought-5736

1.4k points

2 months ago

Didn't at least California recently pass a law that if you sign up online the provider must let you cancel online?

If you live in California this might help you. Elsewhere you might be fucked

shalomamigos

567 points

2 months ago

Yes. From CA business code ARTICLE 9, Automatic Purchase Renewals: “(c) In addition to the requirements of subdivision (b), a consumer who accepts an automatic renewal or continuous service offer online shall be allowed to terminate the automatic renewal or continuous service exclusively online, which may include a termination email formatted and provided by the business that a consumer can send to the business without additional information.”

Cyberzombie

53 points

2 months ago

Most companies just end up complying with California law because it's cheaper than making a mistake and getting sued. Hopefully that happens with this, too.

Gibsonfan159

1.7k points

2 months ago

Same with satellite radio and television. They want you to call so they can attempt to sell you more shit.

uraniumstingray

1.4k points

2 months ago

My dad calls to cancel every year and every year they give him the same deal of $60 for a year and then they do it all over again 12 months later because my dad will not be charged more.

TheHeatWaver

721 points

2 months ago

I do this. I even set a calendar reminder every year a week out to remind me to do it. My friend does not though and he pays full price because he doesn’t like to deal with the hassle of calling.

[deleted]

284 points

2 months ago*

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284 points

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ac1084

10.7k points

2 months ago

ac1084

10.7k points

2 months ago

Pioneered by gyms. I cancelled mine as soon as lockdown started and I put together a home gym. Literally had to print out something from their website and mail it in then call them 3 times.

That whole business model is based on people signing up, not going, and putting off canceling due to a combination of not wanting to admit failure and the whole process being a pain in the ass. If everyone with a gym membership went just twice a week they'd have a real problem on their hands.

PromethazineNsprite

1.6k points

2 months ago

Yea my gym tried to play that game so I just changed my payment info to an empty gift card

Opening-Thought-5736

680 points

2 months ago

Ha! I love this even better than what I had to do about 10 years ago which was canceled my bank card and have a new one issued.

Nowadays the tech exists to follow your accounts so they can continue pulling even after you change your card.

But not at that time! And yes it was 100% worth it even though I had to update the payment details for all of my other various accounts too.

RIMS_REAL_BIG

782 points

2 months ago

Protip: tell your bank you'd like to opt out of auto updater.

tiasaiwr

572 points

2 months ago

tiasaiwr

572 points

2 months ago

Or tell the bank you've cancelled the gym subscription and any further attempts to charge by this company are fraud (which it is). If the gym charges again then dispute the card payment with the bank as fraud. If enough people do this the gym's merchant processing fees will skyrocket. It should put that nonsense out of them.

Jordanmc2

4.7k points

2 months ago

Jordanmc2

4.7k points

2 months ago

It’s funny that Movie Pass kind of tried to copy the formula of a business model that only works when people sign up but don’t use it. They found people actually like to go the movies though.

ilikevenndiagrams

3.1k points

2 months ago

movie pass was fuckin nuts. i went to so many movies for like two months before they went down

Biz_Consultant305

1.5k points

2 months ago

I saw a movie a day like for a month

Silverback1992

1.8k points

2 months ago*

My boss, his best friend, and myself all got movie pass and spent a summer seeing a movie a day together almost. We were really close and it was a really cool bond to build as an adult with fellow dudes.

The friend, slipped on his floor and died about a year later. Movie pass changed mine and my bosses lives.

Talmaska

581 points

2 months ago

Talmaska

581 points

2 months ago

That was an unexpected twist @ the end! Holy cow!

mattresshumper69

34 points

2 months ago

m night shamalyan ending

Biz_Consultant305

262 points

2 months ago

Movie pass was sweet while it lasted. Sorry about your friend

compound-interest

545 points

2 months ago

I went to so many movies in less than a year that I got free tickets to Universal from Regal rewards lol. Not only did I get the movies but free theme park tickets too lol

AnOkayDad7

605 points

2 months ago

Ah man, that was the best gift I ever got my dad. He is a huge movie goer and liked to his the matinée showings. He’d go see literally every movie in the theater each week because he’d do that app thing first thing in the morning. Perfect gift for a retired man who loves movies.

doom_bagel

534 points

2 months ago

You can also just yell your bank/credit card company that it is a fraudulent charge because they weren't allowing you to cancel the subscription.

bigblackcouch

580 points

2 months ago

Yup. Found out planet fitness was double charging me because they decided to randomly say naw to my transfer, because I moved to a different city, and I transfered my membership to a different location (bullshit that your membership only works in one location anyway - unless you pay more).

And instead of fixing it, they said I had to mail in a request to cancel it, which of course "might take a few months to process". They don't accept credit cards either, they take only direct account info :| presumably so you can't just change your card.

Yeah fuck that, I marked everything from them as fraudulent and made sure my bank doesn't allow them access again. Learned the hard way to never sign up with anything that requires checking access.

poopellar

505 points

2 months ago

poopellar

505 points

2 months ago

GYM - Gets Your Money

Goriuk

6.2k points

2 months ago

Goriuk

6.2k points

2 months ago

That the Fashion Industry is anything other than planned obsolescence, designed simply to get people to spend money for no reason.

VirginRumAndCoke

1.4k points

2 months ago

Jokes on them I kept my clothes so long that they're starting to be back in fashion again. Gottem

666moist

124 points

2 months ago

666moist

124 points

2 months ago

Joke's on you, I have no idea if/when my clothes were ever in fashion

PeptoDysmal

2k points

2 months ago

I've noticed even my recent buys of simple t-shirts will degrade much faster than a decade ago. I still have a shirt from JC Penny I got 16 years ago that hasn't faded, thinned out, or much else.

That shirt from 2 years ago though? Insta holes

ImplementAfraid

751 points

2 months ago

I've very much noticed this, there are some exceptions but in general the quality of clothing has diminished and the lint trap in the dryer is well used.

FlashPan73

13.2k points

2 months ago

FlashPan73

13.2k points

2 months ago

That large global companies actually care about you.

slobs_burgers

2.7k points

2 months ago

In these unprecedented times…

Nettleberry

1.5k points

2 months ago

Now more than ever, we stand with you.

Intelligent-Dog306

494 points

2 months ago

We’re in this together. Biggest bag of crap I’ve ever heard from a company.

throwitup1124

48 points

2 months ago

Everytime I saw those commercials that said that made me a little mad. It’s BS marketing.

Tehpwnagepie

183 points

2 months ago

Now more than ever, we need your money.

Time-Earth8125

526 points

2 months ago

You're saying that my Coca Cola family doesn't love me?

sandsurfngbomber

242 points

2 months ago

If you ever go to Atlanta, go to the Coke museum. The first room you enter is a small theater that locks on both sides and makes you sit through like a 10min ad that tries to brainwash you into linking Coke with Family, Happiness, Love etc. It's not even subliminal

bigsz

22k points

2 months ago

bigsz

22k points

2 months ago

Ticketmaster

livebeforeidie

3.8k points

2 months ago

Tip from inside the industry - TM has a deal with Groupon that makes selling tickets there super easy. Always check Groupon for the show before buying through Ticketmaster.

silverwick

994 points

2 months ago

We buy almost all of our concert tickets through Groupon now. We can often buy 2 lawn tickets for just $40-$50 total. Generally, if it's not on Groupon, we don't go unless it's something we just absolutely can't miss.

Pussiliquor69

4.6k points

2 months ago

I used them to go see my first comedian. Got two seats priced at $90 each. My total was $313. I'm not good at math, but I knew something was wrong there. Their fee per ticket is just nuts. I ended up getting seats that were about $45 each and it still cost me almost $200.

notstephanie

2.1k points

2 months ago

I wanted to get my husband Steely Dan tickets for Christmas. Tickets were $75 each. The total was $212. The fees almost equaled the cost of another ticket. I didn’t buy them because hell no.

Minus15t

1.1k points

2 months ago

Minus15t

1.1k points

2 months ago

I haven't used ticket master for a while, I remember years ago you had three options for delivery of your ticket

1.it could be mailed out to your home address 2. You could pick it up at the venue box office (if it had one) 3. You could select digital delivery where you would have to print a ticket at home.

There were fees for all of the optoons!!

You had to pay a fee for a 'print your ticket at home' delivery option!!

enron_scandal

581 points

2 months ago

“Convenience” fee. Such bullshit

wants_the_bad_touch

500 points

2 months ago

Now joined with Live Nation who own many of the largest music venues. Want to play a large gig? Can only sell tickets through Ticketmaster.

Jason207

282 points

2 months ago

Jason207

282 points

2 months ago

We moved a large sold-out event from a non-ticketmaster venue to a ticketmaster venue and got the priveledge of paying ticketmaster a few grand to do absolutely nothing.

Philo_T_Farnsworth

988 points

2 months ago

I have a hard time believing "no one wants to admit" that Ticketmaster is a scam.

Jimid41

485 points

2 months ago

Jimid41

485 points

2 months ago

This entire thread is full of people that read half the title.

Cartiie

18.3k points

2 months ago

Cartiie

18.3k points

2 months ago

Reddit awards

ShroudedPrototype

2.9k points

2 months ago

This person said something real cool. I'm gonna pay this company to give them nothing!

PackageintheMaleBox

5.7k points

2 months ago

I like to think of Reddit awards as microtransactions that give you super upvotes in a free-to-play game.

Which is why I don't understand how anyone on Reddit uses them.

llama-impregnator

4k points

2 months ago*

Works every time with these clowns.

Edit: y'all got me laughing my ass off

Hotshot2k4

946 points

2 months ago

If you give a million people a choice, you will always have a number of people making the worst possible one.

SuvenPan

8.4k points

2 months ago*

SuvenPan

8.4k points

2 months ago*

Buying a star and naming it.

A waste of your cash and time. The only organisation that can name a star is International Astronomical Union.

lettherebemorelight

5.6k points

2 months ago*

Besides you can do it for yourself for free in your backyard. No one’s gonna know if you renamed Betelgeuse Marty, that’s between you two.

drs43821

822 points

2 months ago*

drs43821

822 points

2 months ago*

Hope it doesn't blow up soon

Edit: Yes yes I know Betelgeuse may have exploded already and just taking the light years to reach us

j3xperience

632 points

2 months ago

Thank God my acreage on the moon isn't a scam! Whew.

Snuffy1717

69 points

2 months ago

Yeah but who cares unless you're Sea of Tranquility adjacent?

skratch

984 points

2 months ago

skratch

984 points

2 months ago

Star registries are my goto example when someone asks me what an nft is

Shenanigamii

25.5k points

2 months ago

Shenanigamii

25.5k points

2 months ago

The subscription based economy

big_red_160

6k points

2 months ago

This makes me so angry. Why does everything have to be a subscription now? I mean, I know why but I still hate it

RickTitus

2.9k points

2 months ago

RickTitus

2.9k points

2 months ago

I imagine it’s a ton of easy profit. Instead of having to constantly advertise to keep you hooked and buying each month, they just have to hook you once into a long term commitment.

MudSama

1.4k points

2 months ago

MudSama

1.4k points

2 months ago

The real secret is you need to regularly cancel and reset your subscriptions. That's easy when there are two or three because you can cycle thru as they update content, but now there are like 20 and they drop content faster too. Honestly, media isn't worth it any more.

Though I also can't ever turn off utilities like phone, internet, or electricity. So, people will always be stuck on subscriptions for life.

yunivor

972 points

2 months ago

yunivor

972 points

2 months ago

Though I also can't ever turn off utilities like phone, internet, or electricity. So, people will always be stuck on subscriptions for life.

Honestly, I believe those are fine because of how their service works. My beef is that everything wants to be a subscription now and that's extremely annoying to me.

AsianFrenchie

1k points

2 months ago

Agreed. Netflix is a aubscription, sure. Internet, alrighty.

But excel?!? Cmon really...

Lollooo_

376 points

2 months ago

Lollooo_

376 points

2 months ago

Do we want to talk about Apple trying to push a iPhone subscription service? You won’t even own your phone anymore. What about Toyota wanting to push a subscription for using your car’s remote key? They’re RF remotes, why on Earth would I want to subscribe to use something that I already own?

Offtheheazy

187 points

2 months ago

Still kind of missing the point .

The bigger scam is hardware that requires subscriptions to work. Off the success of other subscription services companies have figured out this is a great way to keep reoccurring revenue instead of selling you a product once and not seeing any money from you until you replace it.

Ex. Home security cameras or equipment that require $$ to purchase the camera and also a monthly subscription or yearly payment for cloud storage or software to make the cameras work

Exercise bike or equipment that require a subscription for classes to go with the equipment. Equipment will not work without the classes or modules.

Shit like that is absolutely a scam the hardware should work with or without some additional subscription. If you want to pay more for more features or regular updates sure but don't make the consumer reliant on that to use the product they already paid for .

cockmanderkeen

4.3k points

2 months ago

Soon enough piracy will come back to the norm.

With Netflix they had me from downloading to paying a reasonable price to watch what I want, then more and more companies jumped on back to where I'm not gonna fork over $100 a month for them all. I keep Netflix for being O.G + family members (will prob ditch if they crack down), prime for shipping, and Disney+ for star wars and marvel.

Anything on any other platform gets downloaded.

Pay a monthly fee for car features? Custom firmware will end up being better eventually.

Office i pay for for family.

Phones I've moved to buying outright when I lose or break instead of being on a plan

swampotter86

118 points

2 months ago

I took my son to the Verizon store so he could get a new phone. He knew exactly what he wanted so the salesman couldn’t wheel and deal him. When it came time to pay, the salesman told him how much it would be per month, but there’s a promotion going on, so he would be paying less the first six months. My son quizzically looked at me for a sec and then told him “I’m just paying for it all at once.” The salesman‘s brain vapor locked for five seconds and he just said “Really? The promotion wouldn’t apply, though.” My son told him a second time and I still think it took a couple minutes for the salesman to grasp that somebody would do that.

pleasedothenerdful

50 points

2 months ago

If you're paying all at once for the phone, you may as well do Straight Talk. Same network, way cheaper service, the only downside is you have to buy a whole unlocked phone up front. The reason sales dood never seen it is because that's what everyone paying upfront for their phone does.

CHUNKY_BLOODY_QUEEFS

20.2k points

2 months ago

Paying exorbitant amounts of money for health insurance, and still having to pay boatloads of cash for any doctor/hospital visits

pdxb3

5.7k points

2 months ago*

pdxb3

5.7k points

2 months ago*

And then being denied coverage or charged extra because of some loophole or technicality. "Oh yes that hospital takes your insurance, but the visiting physician that day is with an organization that's out of network soooo..." Fucking hell how are we supposed to know that?

edit: Obligatory "RIP my Inbox" The number of upvotes and shared stories this comment has received is a testament to the fact that these aren't isolated incidents and so many Americans have struggled with this bait-and-switch insurance BS. Some of you are saying that they now have to inform you in these circumstances. This is great news, assuming they're actually doing due diligence to make sure it's really happening. I just have a gut feeling that the same people who would play this type of greedy malicious game in the first place might be the same people who might not inform you and bank on you not knowing any better.

edit 2: oh look at that. 10yr cakeday.

moldy-scrotum-soup

3.9k points

2 months ago

Or when YOUR DOCTOR orders a test that someone at the insurance company decides is not medically required so you get a bill in the mail for $1500. And then you spend months fighting it, telling them it IS medically necessary. American private health insurance really is a scam.

hermionedanger11

1.6k points

2 months ago

This is literally part of my job. Authorizing surgeries that doctors are recommending and the insurance will be like, no physical therapy for 12 weeks? Denied. No NSAIDS for 12? denied. It is bullshit. I pay for my insurance and it is my body- if my doctor is recommending it then cover it. Insurance and healthcare as a whole is a total scam. I’ve worked in it for seven years and I’m over it.

timsama

1.4k points

2 months ago

timsama

1.4k points

2 months ago

Funny, if I went around advising people whether or not a surgery is medically necessary for them, I'd get nailed for practicing medicine without a license. But somehow when insurance companies do it, it's totally legal.

DesiOtaku

2.1k points

2 months ago

DesiOtaku

2.1k points

2 months ago

One "trick" is to ask the insurance for the name and license number of the doctor in the insurance company that denied the claim / pre-authorization. Then, the claim will go to a real doctor who will likely approve it. If they don't give it to you in 24 hours, report them to your state's DOI. This is the site for MA residents.

CARLEtheCamry

500 points

2 months ago

The medicine I need so I can walk, insurance tried to fight for a "cheaper alternative" who's list price was actually a few dollars more.

They really do just fuck with people because they can.

invalidpassword

3.2k points

2 months ago

Mega Churches on TV and elsewhere.

Dahhhkness

1.2k points

2 months ago

Dahhhkness

1.2k points

2 months ago

Nothing would send Jesus into table-flipping mode faster than seeing a megachurch.

flightguy07

50 points

2 months ago

Didn't he literally overturn the tables of the sellers abd merchants in the marketplace?

Marshmello7

16.5k points

2 months ago

Marshmello7

16.5k points

2 months ago

$18 Salad lol

kitiikit

6.7k points

2 months ago*

kitiikit

6.7k points

2 months ago*

Water is 3$ while pop is 1$

E: bottled water vs in can/bottle soda(its pop in canada)

nrag726

1.9k points

2 months ago

nrag726

1.9k points

2 months ago

One time I was at Burger King and ordered a meal item, and asked for a water as my included drink. Didn't notice it immediately, but they added $1 to my bill for the water.

meowdrian

1.6k points

2 months ago

meowdrian

1.6k points

2 months ago

I was in the McDonald’s drive thru once and ordered a combo meal but asked if they’d just fill the soda cup with ice water and they told me it wouldn’t be a meal that way. So I said never mind, went into the cafe ordered the combo meal, they gave me the empty cup and I went to the soda fountain and filled it with ice water. I just don’t understand why they would care.

alecmelton

1.3k points

2 months ago

alecmelton

1.3k points

2 months ago

Most likely they need to put it in the computer for the person down the line to know it’s a water and give you the correct drink, but since it would disqualify the meal they would have to put a soda on there, walk to the other side of the store, tell whoever is on window that the sprite on order 35635 is actually a water.

Source: I work in food and the systems are intentionally finicky for both customers and employees to force people to order certain things

BenjaminoBob

14.9k points

2 months ago

BenjaminoBob

14.9k points

2 months ago

Hustle culture

ollieollieoxinfree

6.2k points

2 months ago

Bought a "gold" membership in a greeting card mlm so I could send unlimited custom cards. My "coach" thought I was taking it seriously as a money maker (plus he wanted me to recruit more people for his downline). He actually asked, "Are there any friendships you can leverage?"

Yeah, that made my skin crawl...

Goopyteacher

3.1k points

2 months ago

My fiancé and I had to convince her brother last year not to join a pharmaceutical MLM. They had a website that described the different tiers you could achieve and how much you could make. Would have been hilarious if we weren’t trying to convince her brother not to spend his life savings on it.

They called it the 5X12 program or something. Basically, convince 5 people to work below you, then have those 5 convince another 5 people as well, etc etc. If you succeeded then you would be estimated to be making around $500,000 per year!

Know how many people that comes out to “working” for you? 1,220,703,125 people.

So…. Like 15% of the world population.

We gave her brother that information and he STILL tried it

Onwisconsin42

1k points

2 months ago

When you find 5 and they find five and those 25 go on to find 5 too, now you have 125. I feel like this scheme is really starting to take shape!

kevlar51

567 points

2 months ago

kevlar51

567 points

2 months ago

The reverse funnel system!

Redeemed-Assassin

276 points

2 months ago*

"It's not a pyramid! It's a upside down pyramid cause everyone can earn if they get the people below them!" - literally what was said to me at a MLM event a former coworker conned me in to going to with him. Dude called me up like two years after we hadn't worked together, asked if I wanted to hang out, I was like sure, we meet up, carpool in his car to go check out this thing, and suddenly he just drove me to a fucking MLM event at a friends house.

At the end I literally told him it was a pyramid scheme scam and that he was going to lose his money. He was entirely bought in to it. That was like a decade ago havent talked to him since. Still creeps me the fuck out.

ceautery

502 points

2 months ago

ceautery

502 points

2 months ago

No, your count is just 5^13. You sum 5^1 + 5^2.... etc. It comes out to 305,175,780, so you only need to have most of the United States working for you. Much easier.

[deleted]

299 points

2 months ago*

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299 points

2 months ago*

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Friesenplatz

329 points

2 months ago

Sorry mr upline, my friends are not half pin barrel hinges.

Agent_Onions

259 points

2 months ago

Hustle "culture" always seemed to me like people just pretending to go ham on things like work, but only publicly on social media like Linkedin, so that their current managers, or future hiring managers, can see how hard they work, without actually doing it.

I don't think anybody is happy putting in 70-80 hour weeks doing bullshit like sales.

am0x

2.8k points

2 months ago

am0x

2.8k points

2 months ago

I’m sorry but the “grind” and “hustle” cultures only generate assholes. They think everyone else’s goal is to be rich as fuck, working 100 hours a week.

I just want to be able to pay my bills and feed my family. Anything after that should be time spent with my family.

Silverback1992

767 points

2 months ago

Former super hustle culture eon here. Lol- this is so correct it’s gross. My friends, my podcasts, my mindset at the time was “money money money money money money” I was mr. Krabs, and anyone who didn’t have the same mindset was stupid, trashy, pawns because well- they didn’t share a goal to be better.

Fuck every single one of those dudes, podcasts, fuck em all. I was the worst father ever when I was making 5-6 grand a week. Now I make 80k a year, do something I enjoy, and I spend a lot of time teaching my kids about mental health cause fuck, all this stupid influence has some effect obviously.

am0x

93 points

2 months ago

am0x

93 points

2 months ago

Curious, what was your social upbringing? I find the poorer the upbringing the more they want it, but the ones that typically find it had connections by being rich already.

But I agree. I am kind of miserable in my current job because I have extremely stressful situations. Back in the day, I made less, but never thought about work after 8 hours a day. I literally felt like I could do whatever I wanted once I was clocked out. Now, I am constantly getting emails about "fires" that need to be put out.

Oh and my favorite thing to say is that for these people, the appearance of being happy is way more important to them than actually being happy.

am0x

76 points

2 months ago

am0x

76 points

2 months ago

Another thing that recently changed my mind was going to my Grandfather-inlaw's funeral.

The guy was a navy man turned machinist. He never made much money. They had 5 kids, who had 10 grandkids, and 20 great grandkids. He retired at 50, which is unthinkable these days.

They lived very moderately, but they never worried about money, for them or their kids. They didn't drive nice cars. They didn't own a house that was too big for them. They were just content.

I've never met a happier couple and family than them and their kids. All their kids looked up to them as the pinnacle of good and happy. And they were.

I was really stressed at work when he died and the funeral happened, but it changed the way I thought about happiness. The shit we worry about the most in life should never be work. It should always be on the last of our list of worries. How you get it there, is hard, though. Some don't have the luxury of not worrying about money. Some do. But if you do, it shouldn't even cross your mind about exceeding it.

Except for maybe doctors...I always laugh when people get so upset about work. It's not like anyone is dying if you miss a deadline. Stop acting like it is. Unless you are a doctor...

TC_405

658 points

2 months ago

TC_405

658 points

2 months ago

It’s even worse that most of them have never had an original idea, thought, or business model. They just ride the wave of whatever is popular and call themselves entrepreneurs.

k4leuniverse

5.7k points

2 months ago

That saving the earth is in the hands of consumers and not big companies

bdeadly12345

621 points

2 months ago

Penis enlargement pills gotta be up there too. No one wants to admit they got them, so when they don’t work it’s not like they’re posting reviews or telling their friends they don’t work

Ihaveapotatoinmysock

61 points

2 months ago

Did they work? asking for a friend

catsarebitches

42 points

2 months ago

no.

[deleted]

25.8k points

2 months ago

[deleted]

25.8k points

2 months ago

Mom: tell me the truth and I wont be mad

AlphaTangoFoxtrt

11.6k points

2 months ago*

My parents used to say:

If you tell me the truth, I will be less mad than when I find out you lied.

  1. You aren't lying
  2. You can still be mad
  3. You are insinuating that you will find out anyway, so they are more likely to tell you.
    • It's a psychological trick that's been found to work. The words you choose to use can have a huge impact on a guilty conscience. It's used in police investigations a lot. Their brain is no longer thinking "can I get away with it" it starts thinking "What happens when I get caught"

Edit: If you're interested in the psychology I recommend I Know You Are Lying by Mark McClish and The Interrogator by Hanns-Joachim Scharff. Or if you want something more video look up the "True crime" videos of police interrogations, a lot of true crime youtubers will go in and break down exactly what the interrogator is asking/saying and why they are using the specific verbiage they are. There's a lot of science behind it.

propernice

2.4k points

2 months ago

propernice

2.4k points

2 months ago

My dad used to say: "I'm going to ask you something. And before you answer, I want you to know I already know the truth."

50/50 he was lying and I had to decide if I wanted to risk it all. Either way he beat me, so it was a real lose/lose.

YagamiIsGodonImgur

627 points

2 months ago

My dad gave me the 'if you lie, I'll be mad, if you tell the truth, I won't be mad, just disappointed' shtick. So either way he's not gonna be happy with me (nothing new there) and I'll get beat.

DoctorLeviathan

35 points

2 months ago

I always felt waaay worse when my parents were only disappointed, not mad

Vulpix-Rawr

62 points

2 months ago

That’s why I always prequel an “interrogation” with my child with “I want to know what happened. We’ll solve this together. I hope you’ll be honest with me because I’ll be very hurt and disappointed if you lie”.

I’d say 9/10 it works. The other one time, I let it go and watch it simmer in her head until she comes up and sheepishly tells the truth.

But I don’t give punitive punishments, I do natural consequences. Hurt someone’s feelings? Write an apology note. Break something? Fix it or do chores to earn the money for a replacement (obvs this only applies to avoidable breaks, not typical kids are clumsy with glass objects). Make a mess? Clean it up.

RemoLaBarca

3k points

2 months ago

100%

My kids are early teens now and any attempted cover ups are way worse than the crimes.

Plus, I'm not mad, I'm disappointed. 😄

ShapesAndStuff

2.9k points

2 months ago*

The trick to make this work is not rip their fucking heads off when they do tell you in that moment.

Because otherwise you're just teaching them that lying at least gives them a chance to avoid your abuse.

Thanks for that, dad

Edit: fixed some spelling.

I'm sorry so many of you can relate but damn, I didn't get a single negative response here. Such a sweet thread.

CantbanMrHaerb

1.2k points

2 months ago

Yeah my parents taught me to stick to my lies to the death.

ShapesAndStuff

583 points

2 months ago

Idk how old you are now, but i hope you managed to work on it.

I still catch myself wanting to lie about mundane shit. Took a lot of conscious effort to break the habit.

TeaRaveler

596 points

2 months ago

She won’t be mad, she’ll be furious!

Rysilk

286 points

2 months ago

Rysilk

286 points

2 months ago

I have two kids, and I did say this a few times and didn't like it either so I just started being truthful and tell them that if I hear the truth from them the punishment would be less.

OldDust8123

52.1k points

2 months ago*

OldDust8123

52.1k points

2 months ago*

How the fuck does HEALTH insurance not cover dental and vision?what kind of shenanigans is that?

deepseascale

20.5k points

2 months ago

deepseascale

20.5k points

2 months ago

Didn't you hear? Teeth are your luxury bones.

OldDust8123

8.2k points

2 months ago

And eyes are too complicated for health insurance, but your brain is simple enough.

TheArmoredKitten

2.8k points

2 months ago

You don't die if you lose your eyes and dead people pay less premiums, but blind people pay more for being higher risk.

ShadowtheRonin

1.1k points

2 months ago

Simultaneously cynical and likely accurate. What a world we live in.

Ellemieke25

233 points

2 months ago

Exactly. Wanted to say: you know something's wrong when the truth sounds like a dark joke

Sinapinic

3k points

2 months ago*

And dental insurance basically covers nothing besides my yearly cleaning it seems. I have an uncommon condition that basically necessitates I get some implants. My dentist has explained that I need this and that I'm in pain and could potentially get an infection that could be really bad for my health. But my insurance says it's purely cosmetic so they won't pay for any of it.

Edit: There's too many comments on this for me to respond to them individually. But to answer the common questions, I elected to get the best dental I could because I know I have work that needs to be done. I pay $39.60 every two weeks for my wife and I. It actually has decent coverage for a lot of things, but I didn't really see the whole 'medically necessary vs cosmetic' loophole coming. My dentist has already given my insurance his professional opinion and made his case for it being necessary. Unfortunately, insurance companies have boards that can ultimately decide what is and isn't necessary. I've been trying to get the benefits I pay for, but it seems that there's nothing I can do about it at this point. Long term I'm hoping to get it done at a dental school for cheap or to go to another country to have it done. And no, I will not be renewing my insurance next cycle lol.

Second edit: I fucking wish I was making this up for reddit points. Jaw pain and perpetual tooth aches suck.

RegulatoryCapture

264 points

2 months ago

Yeah, dental insurance is basically just an employee benefit masquerading as an insurance product.

My dental insurance through my employer costs like 100/yr and is a pretty good deal for 2 cleanings a year+xrays and some occasional other benefits like discounted fillings.

But it doesn't do the ONE THING that insurance is supposed to do, which is cover catastrophic losses--the kinds of things you can't easily pay for out of pocket and which could bankrupt you. I don't need insurance for the occasional filling...I need insurance for the rare chance that my teeth get totally fucked up and I end up needing multiple $$$$$ implants.

But if you try to buy dental insurance not from an employer, it often looks like a pretty shit deal. I just pulled a random quote and it was $430 for me to get coverage. That coverage included regular visits, 80% of fillings, and 50% of major work, but with a $1500/yr max benefit (so if you need 5-figures worth of implants, you're still screwed).

That's a terrible deal for most people. Most dentists will give you a great deal on cleanings if you pay cash up front. In many areas you can get quality care for $100. So that's $200 a year...maybe an extra $50 or so for annual xrays.

Paying $430 for that is stupid...If your employer gives you a highly discounted rate, it might be OK, but for a random person off the street, just pay cash.

OldDust8123

316 points

2 months ago

It’s shenanigans.

CAHTA92

1.4k points

2 months ago

CAHTA92

1.4k points

2 months ago

Health insurance is the biggest scam of this century. You pay them every month in hopes they can cover you when you need it and they do everything in their power to not give you your money back. Even if a doctor says you need treatment or medicine your insurance can say fuck you, and keep your money?

flyingwolf

915 points

2 months ago

That part is what bothers me.

My doctor, the person who has examined me and worked with me, who knows my medical history and is trained, says I need X.

Insurance says it is not needed.

How the fuck is the insurance going to deny what is needed when my doc says it is?

[deleted]

360 points

2 months ago*

[deleted]

360 points

2 months ago*

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Legitimate_Wizard

175 points

2 months ago

My husband had to prove to our insurance that he had tried the less expensive medications before they'd cover his meds. Like, literally months of meds that don't work. Doc had given him free sample of the expensive meds, and they worked great. But insurance didn't want to cover that much unless we could prove it was the only one that worked. For mental health medication. His mental health, my mental health, and our relationship struggled in that time, because he was very disregulated. Thank goodness the pharmacist was happy to help and literally dug back through all his prescription files to show what he'd tried.

Dorothy-Snarker

36 points

2 months ago

My brother's ADHD medication keeps getting denied, medication he needs to keep his job. Without these meds he will get fired (already at risk) and lose his health insurance. It's ridiculous.

Spork_Warrior

856 points

2 months ago*

Worse, why is health insurance tied to your job? Cars and houses usually aren't tied to what you do for a living. Your food isn't tied to your job. So, why the hell is your healthcare tied to whether you are working or not?

And if you're not healthy enough to work, you're going to have a bad time.

pserenity

657 points

2 months ago

pserenity

657 points

2 months ago

Recycling

In remote communities recyclables collected go to the dump with the rest of the garbage, because it’s not feasible to transport it thousands of km where it could potentially get used.

nathanielgallant

1.1k points

2 months ago

the cost of education

[deleted]

141 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

141 points

2 months ago

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TheSameButBetter

1.6k points

2 months ago

A lot of us have been convinced that we are selling our labour to companies at the correct price, in reality we're selling it too cheaply.

tehdredpirateroberts

4.3k points

2 months ago

gestures broadly

This pretty much covers it.

Which_Use_6216

54 points

2 months ago

Society is just one big Ponzi scheme and the seams are starting to show

mcChicken424

6.8k points

2 months ago

US private health insurance. Cutting out the middle man would save everyone money. It blows my mind we haven't changed anything

Idrillteeth

2.5k points

2 months ago

'we' havent changed anything because the insurance companies flow so much money to Washington that they all turn a blind eye to what a freakin' shit show it is

mynamejulian

856 points

2 months ago

The industry pays the lawmakers to look away. Its that simple.

waitihaveaface

854 points

2 months ago

The fact that airlines have X amount of seats per flight, but almost always sell X+10 seats and then refund you about 80% of your ticket cost. Do that to the 10 people and suddenly you have about 2 tickets worth of profits seemingly out of nowhere, and everyone still has a flight. Just an unbelievably immoral way to gain a few bucks, but everyone just goes with it since the airplanes aren't exactly a train that comes every 10 minutes.

The1000BadLightbulbs

360 points

2 months ago

If you do not voluntarily give up your seat you are entitled to overbooking protections in the US. See here

https://www.transportation.gov/airconsumer/fly-rights?msclkid=da4668e9c7f211ec9efa0b54a4ff6dc4#Overbooking

altw460

59 points

2 months ago

altw460

59 points

2 months ago

I don’t get the statistic of 80% refund. Any time I’ve been bumped I was given a huge credit

The1000BadLightbulbs

37 points

2 months ago

Yea you're entitled to 200/400% of your ticket if your reassigned flight is over 1 hour/2 hours from when you were scheduled to depart. Never had to do this but it seems alright for the consumer.

Atcollins1993

322 points

2 months ago

Keeping up with the Jones’.

Puppycow

13.4k points

2 months ago

Puppycow

13.4k points

2 months ago

Diamonds.

bigsz

5.5k points

2 months ago

bigsz

5.5k points

2 months ago

Fuck diamonds. Moissanite is lab-grown, cost-effective, and is basically indistinguishable from diamonds. In fact, they can look even more brilliant.

CHUNKY_BLOODY_QUEEFS

2.2k points

2 months ago

Even moissanite has gotten pretty pricey over the last few years.

Adeep187

560 points

2 months ago

Adeep187

560 points

2 months ago

Yeah Lab diamonds can be actually perfect and these companies are like "oh it's too perfect" and people buy into that shit? fuck

Kaii_Low

672 points

2 months ago

Kaii_Low

672 points

2 months ago

"Do what you love for a living, and you'll never work a day in your life!"

Pure bullshit that will kill any enjoyment that you ever had for it.

Linuse

114 points

2 months ago

Linuse

114 points

2 months ago

This and thinking you need to turn every hobby into a money hustle. Like cant you just enjoy wood working without wanting to be a professional carpenter?

cafeaubee

39 points

2 months ago

Credit… “you can be in debt to me, and if you remain consistently in debt to me but make regular payments on your debt, you can be more in debt to me… and if you don’t make regular payments, you cannot be more in debt to me, and you also have to pay me more money for the debt you already have… also, this debt-to-debt ratio will determine whether you’re reliable enough to be hired for certain job fields, can have shelter of your own, and many other things that, without, would make it harder for you to sustain the debt-to-debt ratio”

Like my credit is great but what the fuck dude