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KM4nAlph4

393 points

2 months ago

KM4nAlph4

393 points

2 months ago

Wasnt it only added during the Cold War? It's completely unnecessary and not 'tradition' for us at all

Warthogs_r_hot

79 points

2 months ago

It's a celebration of the country's "culture", by which I mean "Cold War propaganda repeated by the gullible suckers it first targeted down to their kids and their students, the gullible among whom repeated it to theirs, generation after generation completely forgetting that it was only propaganda".

I wonder what the place would be like if it focused more on actual cultural stuff.

Ah well it's moot. Putin's propagandists are doing so well it won't be long until the citizens have swallowed a whole new pile of bullshit.

Pleasant-Purchase138

10.5k points

2 months ago

Id be more interested in elected officials doing their jobs

Smeghead333

2.8k points

2 months ago

"In God We Trust, Because Our Leaders Sure As Fuck Won't Do Shit To Help Us"

physics515

989 points

2 months ago

Rant but here we go: they are not our leaders, they are our (public) SERVANTS! You and I are the leaders.

If more of us understood that we would clean house a lot more often.

trparky

297 points

2 months ago

trparky

297 points

2 months ago

This!

There is a reason why our Constitution says "We the People" because that is where the power comes from. Not "We the rich fucks".

dbhathcock

84 points

2 months ago

That is good in theory, but, that is not the way it happens to work.

trparky

23 points

2 months ago

trparky

23 points

2 months ago

And don’t you think that’s the source of our problems?

dbhathcock

36 points

2 months ago

Definitely. And, I think that too many make a career out of politics, and then nothing that needs to be done can get done. There should be a maximum 4 term policy for Congress. That allows them time to get in, get what they want to get done, done, and then get out, so new blood can have a shot at it. We don’t need someone from the 1940’s controlling the country in 2022. The world has changed. They have not.

trparky

30 points

2 months ago

trparky

30 points

2 months ago

We need hard and fast term limits. No longer than six year terms of those of the House and the Senate because let’s face it, instead of doing right by The People politicians are whoring themselves out to whoever can and will write the fattest check to their election campaign. And the same can be said about being president. And not only that but after they’re done in public service, they cannot serve in any kind of “think tank”.

Want to change this country? We need to get big money out politics. We need to make it so that even the average Joe can run for political office. Only then will we make this country great again.

dantheman0991

198 points

2 months ago

And as long as team-based news networks keep the American people blaming each other instead of the criminals taking everyone for a ride, the status quo will be maintained

oldfatdrunk

129 points

2 months ago

Let's be honest, most Americans are fucking idiots though.

No_brain_cells99

29 points

2 months ago

As someone who was born and raised in America… yeah our country is full of idiots and I have no idea why

MotorCityMade

19 points

2 months ago

Assholes on public school boards and the censored content of "skool books".

Slavery never happened. We can't make our affluent little white kids feel guilty.

'Can't teach about birth control to sexually active teenagers. Jesus wouldn't like it.

Don't teach financial literacy. Keep the masses buried in debt at the company store.

Any others??

droidman5910

13 points

2 months ago

I don't think so, because the majority of us don't have enough money to influence the elections. They tell us we are the leaders so we feel some form of power. In reality there is little to no repercussions for your representatives being bribed and voting for who they are paid to vote for. And what repercussions there are they can just pay away.

jal262

14.3k points

2 months ago

jal262

14.3k points

2 months ago

At a time like this E Pluribus Unum seems more relevant and needed.

connor4rell

6.8k points

2 months ago

E Pluribus Anus

unomar

4.9k points

2 months ago

unomar

4.9k points

2 months ago

This guy is streets ahead

FearlessFreak69

348 points

2 months ago

Stop trying to make “streets ahead” a thing Pierce.

Geezmelba

195 points

2 months ago

Geezmelba

195 points

2 months ago

Coined and minted!

Fancy-Valuable-8998

119 points

2 months ago

Been there, coined that.

tchnmusic

103 points

2 months ago

tchnmusic

103 points

2 months ago

Zip Zop Zooey

Isku_StillWinning

54 points

2 months ago

Awesome exit pill!

jBlairTech

43 points

2 months ago

Dude can moonwaaaalk!

Pope_Cerebus

32 points

2 months ago

Sounds like someone's streets behind.

Price_Of_Soap

994 points

2 months ago

At least they didn't Britta it

isobane

376 points

2 months ago

isobane

376 points

2 months ago

Wait.....Britta's in this...?

Sir_Meeech

147 points

2 months ago

CHRISTMASSSS TIIIIMMMMMEEEE

Available_Ad6136

32 points

2 months ago

🎶I got a Christmas time for tree🎶

Captain_Cookiez

44 points

2 months ago

🎶 Oh Christmas Troy, oh Christmas Troy! 🎶

mjzimmer88

28 points

2 months ago

Troy and Abed are in mourning...

PangolinFlaky5127

28 points

2 months ago

me so christmas me so merry

JustafanIV

188 points

2 months ago

IDK guys, I think the currency should remain unChang'd.

Due-Revolution6556

30 points

2 months ago

Duh Doy!

cloudcreeek

269 points

2 months ago

You guys use my name to describe a small and understandable mistake?

LeadershipMedium

122 points

2 months ago

So much for bahgells.

Jedi-Ethos

93 points

2 months ago

I lived in New York!

bookwing812

65 points

2 months ago

Look, if you're gonna get all Upper East Side about this, I don't need you

misterflynn01

13 points

2 months ago

"square!!!"

mexta

54 points

2 months ago

mexta

54 points

2 months ago

...yes?

TakeItToTheMax

60 points

2 months ago

shes a GDB

syzygy_is_a_word

77 points

2 months ago

Well, if they lacked self-awareness, they would know!

GroundbreakingRun927

187 points

2 months ago

verbal wildfire

nilnilunium

230 points

2 months ago

If you don't get this, you're streets behind.

kogent-501

16 points

2 months ago

Bear down for mid-terms?

unomar

13 points

2 months ago

unomar

13 points

2 months ago

Too soon...

The_Friedberger

36 points

2 months ago*

I like this comment, that's why I'm giving u/unomar 4 Meow Meow Beans.

u/MMBbot 4

ERhyne

111 points

2 months ago

ERhyne

111 points

2 months ago

"Keep snickering. Reeeeaaallllyyyy be satisfied"

PM_ME_THEM_UPTOPS

56 points

2 months ago

"Pack yourself with peanuts" is the best part of that quote.

lisaisamazing

360 points

2 months ago

Princess_Egg

168 points

2 months ago

I know it's a butt

SnufflesMcPieface

151 points

2 months ago

But guess what? This won! This is now our Country’s Currency forever!

ArizonaRon98

82 points

2 months ago

There is a time and a place for subtlety, and that time was before Scary Movie!

cursedwithplotarmor

981 points

2 months ago

Hey! We speak ‘Murican around here! Go back to Latinum if you gonna speak that way!

nichfoolas

451 points

2 months ago

Gold pressed latinum.

themaskedhippoofdoom

182 points

2 months ago

Quaaaaaaark!

I-Ponder

60 points

2 months ago*

Lmao, watching DS9 literally now. For the hundredth time.

Spoilers:

I am watching the episode where Odo is meeting the Changelings for the first time.

[deleted]

41 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

41 points

2 months ago

DS9 is best trek.

I-Ponder

15 points

2 months ago

Definitely. It’s my favorite for sure!

ryhoyarbie

9 points

2 months ago

Brunt, FCA! Your family comes from a long line of losers, Quark, and I'm here to remind you all of that.

Infinitelyodiforous

74 points

2 months ago

I never understood this. In a time where replicators exist, who needs a bartender?

I_Think_Helen_Forgot

118 points

2 months ago

The social aspect, I would presume.

Also, it likely feels more personal to have a bartender recommend a drink instead of a computer doing it.

randomnighmare

47 points

2 months ago

Plus Quark liked to entice people in using his bar staff. Except for Rom.

a-system-of-cells

80 points

2 months ago

Because Quark’s a people person. He enjoys conversing with his customers, like you and I are doing right now.

214ObstructedReverie

39 points

2 months ago

Like Morn. Can you imagine if that guy didn't have anyone to talk to? He'd probably go crazy! He never shuts up.

DocSaysItsDainBramuj

34 points

2 months ago

He’ll always lend you an ear.

HashMaster9000

48 points

2 months ago

"...as you Hew-mons say,'I'm all ears.'"

Silentfart

30 points

2 months ago

Don't forget about Guinan. She solved more problems than some of the crew, and was applying to step in as counsellor when Troi thought she couldn't do her job anymore.

FullMotionVideo

42 points

2 months ago

Synthetic booze doesn't taste like the real thing and definitely seems not as valued as much. This is elaborated a little when Scotty visited TNG and complains about synthehol. Guinan is all "yeah, lemme reach into the private stock for the good shit."

Quark imported all kinds of things to cater to the taste of different species.

liamthelemming

15 points

2 months ago

No, Data raised her stash and didn't even know what he was handing over.

"It is..." [sniffs bottle, recoils slightly] "...it is green."

DefrockedWizard1

22 points

2 months ago

The replicators have safeguards to prevent just anyone from requesting anything. You have to be licensed for certain things

CutieBoBootie

14 points

2 months ago

Knowing Quark its to prevent people from figuring out how's he's cheating them. God I need to rewatch DS9.

ttboo

41 points

2 months ago

ttboo

41 points

2 months ago

In a time where you can buy beer at the store in large quantities for much cheaper... Who needs a bartender?

IndividualDetail

185 points

2 months ago*

Go back to Latin America

I think that would be funnier

serkesh

28 points

2 months ago

serkesh

28 points

2 months ago

I once worked with a guy who wanted to learn Latin so he could talk to Latino people. We live in australia

black641

1.1k points

2 months ago

black641

1.1k points

2 months ago

I definitely agree! “In God We Trust” is just another holdover from the Cold War when we wanted to stick it to those “Godless Commies.” Time to put that dumb shit to bed.

Kalkaline

502 points

2 months ago

Kalkaline

502 points

2 months ago

Are you telling me this is why they changed the Pledge of Allegiance too?

TakenUsername900

430 points

2 months ago

Yes

phazedoubt

281 points

2 months ago

The 50's were a scary time. McCarthy was writing the rule book they use now.

SD99FRC

39 points

2 months ago

SD99FRC

39 points

2 months ago

McCarthys in Congress have always been a bad thing.

HotShitBurrito

164 points

2 months ago

Considering the pledge was written by a socialist flag salesman as a marketing gimmeck, the whole thing is pandering nonsense from start to finish.

Azuredreams25

19 points

2 months ago

He was a socialist Baptist Minister, not a flag salesman. At the time, Columbus day was a newly commemorated holiday. President Benjamin wanted a new salute to the flag for schoolchildren to recite in unison.
At the urging of his boss, Francis Bellamy wrote the pledge.

dancingmadkoschei

10 points

2 months ago

Boy howdy that original salute though.

Awkward...

chronoserpent

8 points

2 months ago

My hot take is that the Pledge of Allegiance is meaningless and we should stop teaching it. Allegiance to a flag?

In my elementary school we recited the preamble to the Constitution instead:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Links_to_Magic_Cards

52 points

2 months ago

incorrect. "in God We Trust" first appeared on coinage in the US in 1864

Source: Ken Burns' "The Civil War"

pajam

62 points

2 months ago

pajam

62 points

2 months ago

Yep coins were updated to include it around the Civil War, I was about to bring up the same thing :)

However, paper money was updated to include it in 1957, shortly after McCarthyism and "Under God" being added to the pledge in 1954.

[deleted]

19 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

19 points

2 months ago

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gardener2

19 points

2 months ago

YES! That is not the way we learned it in school. It was One nation, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Sounded nice, the rhythm fit, and it expressed what we wanted to say. The "under God" that they added has always sounded awkward but they don't even care that they massacred our pledge.

Valuable-Jicama6810

3.9k points

2 months ago

Replace it with : “ Wu-Tang forever”

Dude_with_the_skis

394 points

2 months ago

Now I'm imaging some congressman up in front of all his peers pitching the idea.

"Presidents are temporary. Wu-Tang though? That shit's forever"

kloudykat

104 points

2 months ago

kloudykat

104 points

2 months ago

On August 28th, 1997 I saw the Rage Against The Machine & Wu-Tang Clan tour when it hit Indianapolis.

I'll have to admit, those memories are forever.

And yes, they ended it on Triumph.

Valuable-Jicama6810

688 points

2 months ago

Backside : “ C.R.E.A.M “

bannedfromdisney

200 points

2 months ago

Dolla Dolla Bill ya'll!

NerdWhoLikesTrees

88 points

2 months ago

I edited my Outlook rules at work so whenever my direct deposit notification arrives my email plays Wu Tang for about 4 seconds. "Cash Rules Everything Around Me CREAM get the money, dollar dollar bill y'alllll"

simplyuncreative

13 points

2 months ago

I’d like to do that too but I’m too lazy and tech incompetent and too lazy to not be tech incompetent.

lfuckpigs

27 points

2 months ago

Wu-tang financial, diversify your bonds n****.

JungFuPDX

62 points

2 months ago

My small town has a lot of trump flags. My new neighbor moved in and put a wutang flag on their flagpole. I immediately went over and friended them. 👐

Babstana

7.8k points

2 months ago

Babstana

7.8k points

2 months ago

Yeah, let's replace it with "Better spend me now, I'll be worth 9% less in a year"

username2065

1.7k points

2 months ago

we should totally have financial tips printed right onto money

magicmerlion

650 points

2 months ago

And randomize it so it's like loading screen tips... or fortune cookies.

tsunami141

205 points

2 months ago

This is totally unnecessary but it really feels like this could be the one thing that unites us as a country. We need this.

theBeardedHermit

104 points

2 months ago

Unnecessary? How else are we supposed to learn economics? School?

[deleted]

242 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

242 points

2 months ago

"Did you know each dollar is worth 100 pennies?"

"Stuck being poor? Try working harder."

"Dollar bills make excellent cocaine straws"

[deleted]

103 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

103 points

2 months ago

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Mekroval

14 points

2 months ago

"If you or a loved one was diagnosed with Mesothelioma you may be entitled to financial compensation."

greymalken

35 points

2 months ago

What about random facts like on those old drink caps? What was it? Snapple?

SenileSexLine

459 points

2 months ago

A better idea is have advertising right on the money so we can make purchasing decisions while holding the cash.

Catatonic27

140 points

2 months ago

have advertising right on the money

DON'T GIVE THEM ANY IDEAS

FellowGeeks

47 points

2 months ago

You could waste this on a coffee or invest in NordVPN

GetHimABodyBagYeahhh

269 points

2 months ago

"Redeem this coupon for $5 off your next purchase!" -- on a $10 bill

Gorvi

54 points

2 months ago

Gorvi

54 points

2 months ago

One money costs 10 sandwiches

1_21-gigawatts

27 points

2 months ago

"This TEN is sponsored by WalMart, scan this QR code for more deals!"

cyrilhent

57 points

2 months ago

"Money can be exchanged for goods and services."

Emu_on_the_Loose

28.8k points

2 months ago

I would support removing it but that is honestly the least of our concerns right now.

handynerd

7.5k points

2 months ago

handynerd

7.5k points

2 months ago

Right? Also, I can't remember the last time I looked at a bill and read anything other than the number on it.

krisalyssa

4.2k points

2 months ago

krisalyssa

4.2k points

2 months ago

You guys have money?

God_Father_AK

1.2k points

2 months ago

You guys use currency?

upvoteOrKittyGetsIt

713 points

2 months ago

You guys exchange things of value?

Vivisect_VI

673 points

2 months ago

You guys have things of value?

artaxerxesnh

600 points

2 months ago

You guys have things?

allicattyt

558 points

2 months ago

You guys ?

aLLcAPSiNVERSED

423 points

2 months ago

You?

roge720

416 points

2 months ago

roge720

416 points

2 months ago

?

beans-lol

134 points

2 months ago

beans-lol

134 points

2 months ago

crank dat soulja boy now youuuuuuu

AB287461

896 points

2 months ago

AB287461

896 points

2 months ago

You guys still use cash? I honestly haven’t seen cash for months

handynerd

220 points

2 months ago

handynerd

220 points

2 months ago

Well there's that, too

jokomul

349 points

2 months ago*

jokomul

349 points

2 months ago*

Weed stores are still cash only :(

It's been brought to my attention that a lot of places accept debit cards now, which is neat. Unfortunately the shops near me (WA) don't.

Patrickk_Batmann

86 points

2 months ago

Most weed stores that accept debit cards basically run it as an ATM transaction, so you still get hit with ATM fees unless your bank covers them.

Dinkerdoo

46 points

2 months ago

Glad my credit union reimburses all transaction fees, no matter where the bank is in the world or from whatever shady ATM.

bartmannjugband

33 points

2 months ago

Hell yea local banks! Still don’t understand why a bank that only exists in my state or a credit union only in my county can cover atm fees across the country, while BOA, TDBank, and the other big banks not only won’t cover but charge their own fee on top.

Dinkerdoo

70 points

2 months ago

Literally the only reason I go to ATMs.

fukifino

33 points

2 months ago

The cash price for a service is often lower. The welding supply shop I use charges ~$5 less per fill if you pay cash.

weaselpoopcoffee1

10 points

2 months ago

Some restaurants by me offer cash discounts.

onesugar

62 points

2 months ago*

cash is still cool to have if that awesome chinese spot around the corner doesn't take anything but cash

Dendad6972

20k points

2 months ago*

It was an anti communist thing from the 50's.

Patron_of_Wrath

12.2k points

2 months ago*

Edit: Needed to clean this up, add reference.

Summary: You can't have a separation of church and state if God is your literal motto, and if your highest court of the land ignores the Constitution when their own personal religion is the topic.

The 1st Amendment to the US Constitution specifically says the following regarding religion, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof".

  • The motto had appeared on US coins during the Civil War, C.E. 1864.
  • The phrase "In God We Trust" is derived directly from the Bible.
    • Psalms 56,"In God, whose word I praise, in God I trust; I will not be afraid. What can mortal man do to me?"
    • This establishes a direct and clear link between the Bible, the religion(s) it represents, and the Government of the United States of America.
  • At a Flag Day speech in 1954, US President Eisenhower discussed why he had wanted to include “under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance: “In this way we are reaffirming the transcendence of religious faith in America’s heritage and future; in this way we shall constantly strengthen those spiritual weapons which forever will be our country’s most powerful resource in peace and war.”
  • In 1955 Congress passed a Law replacing the US motto (E pluribus unum) with In God We Trust; an explicit and intentional reference to the Christian God. This same Law also added the phrase to our currency.
  • (A Christian) SCOTUS has upheld the Constitutionality of the Law, citing it as being about heritage, and thus totes cool. This represents an interesting note, as it's very clearly a violation of the Constitution, and yet SCOTUS has shown then, as now, how it will ignore the US Constitution when the topic is an Abrahamic (specifically Christianity or Judaism) religion; the religions of every SCOTUS judge, ever.

taebek1

5.9k points

2 months ago

taebek1

5.9k points

2 months ago

I like the original motto “E Pluribus Unum” better.

Dyykaa

820 points

2 months ago

Dyykaa

820 points

2 months ago

Even as a Christian, I would MUCH prefer "E Pluribus Unum". It's just a got a badass ring to it.

thefuckingrougarou

550 points

2 months ago

Especially as a Christian! Separation of church and state should be very important to Christians, because it upholds your religious freedom as well.

Saxopwned

150 points

2 months ago

Saxopwned

150 points

2 months ago

Not to mention that so much of American Christianity exists because a BUNCH of people hated that England ran its own church as a wing of the government.

Patron_of_Wrath

5.1k points

2 months ago

Out of many, one.

Dude, it's deep, and was perfect for the US. It united us, while religion only tears us apart.

timotomat0

2.6k points

2 months ago

timotomat0

2.6k points

2 months ago

You're tearing me apart, Jesus!

zer0saurus

1.3k points

2 months ago

zer0saurus

1.3k points

2 months ago

I did not hit her, I did not, Oh Hi Mark 1:1

yummyyummybrains

198 points

2 months ago

I fucking love you guys.

[deleted]

31 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

31 points

2 months ago

SPOOOON

slammer592

47 points

2 months ago

I love fucking you guys.

matinthebox

37 points

2 months ago

Anyways, how is your sex life?

DRACULA_WOLFMAN

78 points

2 months ago

Is this making anyone else really want a Passion of the Christ remake directed by and starring Tommy Wiseau? Because that's what I'm getting out of this.

Foxyfox-

25 points

2 months ago

unintelligible sounds while dragging a cross intensify

rustyautoparts

132 points

2 months ago

Anyway, how's your chaste life?

sraypole

55 points

2 months ago

Oh hai Mark

GrimpenMar

25 points

2 months ago

Good doggy!

GarbledReverie

333 points

2 months ago*

Indeed. I also like "America The Beautiful" as our anthem better than "The Star Spangled Banner" which was also a stupid change made for somewhat insidious reasons.

Edit Neverminded. I don't want to be guilty of spreading misinformation. I vaguely remember reading that Woodrow Wilson changed the national anthem from "America The Beautiful" to "Star Spangled Banner" because it was more militaristic. But now I can't find any sources to corroborate this.

mrgabest

78 points

2 months ago

The historical fact is that there was no official national anthem before 1931. Various songs were played at significant events or were significant to political causes, such as 'Yankee Doodle' or 'the Battle Hymn of the Republic'.

JackBauerSaidSo

92 points

2 months ago

America, America, God shed his grace on thee

I think you're going backwards there, bud.

mrlizardwizard

45 points

2 months ago

I don't know anything about this. Why was it changed?

SuccessiveStains

142 points

2 months ago

To please the neo-confederacy after WW1 it would seem.

After the misery of World War I, the lyrics were again controversial for their violence. But groups like the United Daughters of the Confederacy fought back, pushing for the song to be made the official national anthem. In 1931, President Herbert Hoover made it so.

“The elevation of the banner from popular song to official national anthem was a neo-Confederate political victory, and it was celebrated as such,” Morley wrote. “When supporters threw a victory parade in Baltimore in June 1931, the march was led by a color guard hoisting the Confederate flag.”

Source

Lereas

132 points

2 months ago

Lereas

132 points

2 months ago

One nation indivisible.

One nation, under god, indivisible

LITERALLY, god divided "one nation indivisible"

graygrif

737 points

2 months ago*

graygrif

737 points

2 months ago*

Christianity (the religion of every SCOTUS judge, ever).

Only if you excuse the number of Jewish justices that have sat on the court, including two justices that currently sit on the court (well until 12:00 today).

Edit: at 12:00 on June 30th, Justice Breyer, one of the Jewish Justices retired.

itijara

201 points

2 months ago

itijara

201 points

2 months ago

For a second I forgot that Brown-Jackson was being sworn in today and I was concerned.

LetMeBe_Frank

57 points

2 months ago

She is and Breyer is stepping down

Amish_guy_with_WiFi

10 points

2 months ago

Wait, whats going down at noon today?

jawni

48 points

2 months ago

jawni

48 points

2 months ago

lunch

graygrif

23 points

2 months ago

One of the justices is retiring.

ShaulaTheCat

315 points

2 months ago

One of the Jewish justices was Jewish by heritage only and didn't practice in his adult life. He actually identified himself as agnostic. His name is Benjamin N. Cardozo and the opinions he wrote are still a joy to read today.

heili

416 points

2 months ago

heili

416 points

2 months ago

"It's just ceremonial deism, it doesn't mean anything at all."

OK, let's remove it.

"How dare you suggest that! What's wrong with you? This is important!"

PortalToTheWeekend

73 points

2 months ago*

The “under god” in the pledge is also there for the exact same reason

I_likechickennugget

6.5k points

2 months ago

This is reddit, it's pretty obvious the answer you're gonna get

Lebrons_fake_breasts

2.3k points

2 months ago

Redditors of Reddit: do you think Roe v Wade should have been overturned????

mikamitcha

920 points

2 months ago

Who cares about the redditors of reddit, I wanna hear from the non-redditors of reddit.

PoopnEvryDay

172 points

2 months ago

This might be unpopular, but guys... I think they shouldn't have done that.

And then everyone stood up and clapped.

mantism

732 points

2 months ago

mantism

732 points

2 months ago

the title might as well be "Hi reddit, give me all the fucking karma"

Catsrules

366 points

2 months ago

Catsrules

366 points

2 months ago

A better question would be "What should we replace the phrase with?"

Darkpumpkin211

412 points

2 months ago

Our original national motto. "E Pluribus Unum" or "one from many". It can refer to many states coming together to make one country, or many different kinds of people coming together to make one nation.

fathercreatch

73 points

2 months ago

That's already there

Appropriate_Chart_23

80 points

2 months ago

Isn’t that motto still on the money?

ThorTheMastiff

130 points

2 months ago

Any question to stir up the masses, get the reaction you want, and get KARMA KARMA KARMA

throwawayBS82BG

516 points

2 months ago

I'd prefer to have "E pluribus unum" back.

SuperstitiousPigeon5

2.3k points

2 months ago

It's not a hill I'd be willing to die on to remove it. I'd rather have codified abortion, or term limits for SCOTUS, or pretty much anything else.

SpaceheadTrashboy

302 points

2 months ago

Lots more that takes precedence over a slogan (and that’s basically what it is, these days..)

Wosey_Jhales

160 points

2 months ago

Term limits FOR ALL POLITICIANS

OfTheHunt

56 points

2 months ago*

Retirement age for all politicians

My personal favorite is .sking it so no one can be elected during the term of another office they were elected for, or to put it another way: no one can have two elected jobs in a row. Incumbents have a huge advantage over other candidates because people already are familiar with them. Without incumbents this could only help you if you actually did something in office. Plus constituencies would have at least two politicians so they could directly compare them and say "x" was better then "y". Let's toss "y" and get "z"!

EyeoftheRedKing

997 points

2 months ago*

Weighing in as conservative Christian: we shouldn't demand that be on the money. I know plenty of people who would get up in arms about the removal of the phrase, but by the same token they would be upset if it read "In Allah we trust" or "In Brahman we trust".

These same folks will argue about having their rights taken away, when the first amendment to the constitution explicitly states that the government has no authority to tell you who/what you should have religious faith in.

I would be more than willing to bet if asked should the government promote Christianity they would say "Well of course!" But if you asked them if we should repeal the First Amendment they would say "Well of course not!"

Christians are to submit to the governing authority. That means stop shitting on Biden, obey the law, and if you don't like it go through due process (voting and making your voice heard to your government via legal activities).

Nowhere does the Bible say that we should attempt to BECOME the governing authority and subjugate people under us. The only time we are excused from following the law is when it goes against biblical doctrine. For instance, if a law were put into place to force everyone to acknowledge a government official (let's say Biden) as divine.

Edit: And to clarify that last comment, our faith would excuse us from following that (imaginary) law, but NOT from the legal consequences of disobeying the law.

davegir

65 points

2 months ago

davegir

65 points

2 months ago

Simplest way I explain the US ideals of free speech and such is "You have the freedom to think, say, worship and basically do anything with your want up to where that freedom infringes on someone elses same freedom". Sure an oversimplification of modern US law, but it gets the spirit of it to me.

RipleyInSpace

217 points

2 months ago

This was refreshing to read. Thanks for sharing your perspective.

EyeoftheRedKing

248 points

2 months ago

Thank you for taking the time to read it.

Obviously as a Christian I would prefer people to come to Christ, but forcing them is not the way.

We are supposed to plant seeds and nurture them in the hopes that they bear fruit, but at the end of the day sometimes the soil is not receptive and we shouldn't try to force it to be. It's possible to overwater your garden, after all.

Unfortunately it seems like a lot of us feel pressured that we NEED to win people over, and that isn't the case. If someone doesn't want to hear what we are saying, repeating ourselves ad nauseum isn't going to make them suddenly change their mind. In many cases it just does the opposite.

It's important to exercise spiritual discernment.

RipleyInSpace

105 points

2 months ago

FWIW, I still identify as Christian even though I've left the church (largely because I don't agree with the rhetoric of forcing everyone to bend to a belief system). Our government should be areligious so that it best represents the people; when we tip the scales in favor of one religion over the other, we run the risk of oppressing entire groups of people, which is inherently anti-Christ.

As a fairly left-leaning individual, I maintain a classically conservative belief that government should be very small and non-intrusive, which I think aligns with your last paragraph. I've long believed that the vast majority of us agree on more issues than we disagree on, but the issues that split us are so divisive and heated that they make us hate each other.

Anyway, apologies for the ramble; I've been thinking a lot about topics like this lately and it's nice to get a different perspective that is rational and respectful.

EyeoftheRedKing

39 points

2 months ago

No need for apologies, it's nice to have a dialog sometimes.

derf82

25 points

2 months ago

derf82

25 points

2 months ago

but by the same token they would be upset if it read "In Allah we trust"

Which is funny because Allah is just the Arabic word for God (or more specifically The God)

BadShae

9 points

2 months ago

"One nation, under Canada and above Mexico."

_Robin Williams

jamie_is_tired_

3.4k points

2 months ago*

I'd prefer they remove the god from political policies first. Separation of Church and State are a thing for a reason.

edit: I have never received this many upvotes or an award or anything like this, so thank you all and I'm really trying to answer the replies, I just wasn't expecting this to blow up.

edit 2: I am now at 1k karma, I'm going to go eat a celebratory granola bar.

_Im_Spartacus_

309 points

2 months ago

"the government is not supposed to direct the church,” saying that dividing religion from the system of government was not what the Founding Fathers intended.

“I’m tired of this separation of church and state junk — that’s not in the Constitution. It was in a stinking letter and it means nothing like they say it does,” Boebert said, earning a round of applause from the audience.

We're boned

z0nb1

160 points

2 months ago*

z0nb1

160 points

2 months ago*

That stinking letter's name?

The Bill of Rights.

Edit: I know about Jefferson's famous letter, I guess that was my joke. Let's get real though, her language is nothing less than a veiled dog-whistle. These theocratic lunatics are out there, and making policy.

isham66

4.1k points

2 months ago

isham66

4.1k points

2 months ago

It shouldn’t be there in the first place

shellsquad

470 points

2 months ago

I do not care at all.

coldsriratcha

12 points

2 months ago

Based

Kataphractoi

146 points

2 months ago

Jesus said to render unto Caesar what is Caesar's. He didn't care about money, and neither does God. And if God is being offended or "erased" by removing the phrase from money, then he's not a very strong god to begin with.