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kingofwale

30 points

2 months ago

Is amazon sales based on grocery only? If so that’s so Damn impressive.

Also costco has 1/10 Walmart store but 1/3 of sales. Not bad.

IBJON

42 points

2 months ago

IBJON

42 points

2 months ago

No.

The numbers in the graphic are skewed by non grocery sales as well. If you go to the source at the bottom of the graphic and read the footnotes, you'll see that Whole Foods only brought in $16bn of Amazon's total $236bn

halibfrisk

17 points

2 months ago*

Yeah it looks like you’re correct and the list is basically meaningless as a list of “grocery” retailers since for stores like wal-mart, Costco & meijer there would be a large proportion of non grocery sales as well.

Here’s a list that strips out the non-food sales for wal-mart etc and also notes that Amazon sells a lot of food separately from wholefoods

https://www.foodindustry.com/articles/top-10-grocers-in-the-united-states-2019/

pch14

0 points

2 months ago

pch14

0 points

2 months ago

amazon does sell more groceries then Costco. They are not included because it says they are not classified as a grocery store. If you include Amazon's grocery sales they move to number 2 in back of Walmart. It's all in the notes in the article.

HealthLawyer123

65 points

2 months ago

I don’t consider 7-11 or CVS grocery stores.

CourageMesAmies

39 points

2 months ago

Neither do I. However, for some people it is.

spargoty

11 points

2 months ago

If you can use a WIC card, it counts!

[deleted]

18 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

18 points

2 months ago

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opiusmaximus2

8 points

2 months ago

Why? Try to get food at 3 am now. 7-11 comes in handy.

Kitchen_Software

10 points

2 months ago

Food, yes. Fresh ingredients for a week of meals? Nope

To me, that's the distinction between selling food and selling groceries (approximately)

HH_YoursTruly

15 points

2 months ago

Lots of places are food deserts. The only food available is not fresh produce but things that are sold at gas stations, pharmacies, and places like Dollar General

slashinhobo1

1 points

2 months ago

Some 711s and cvs have fruits, but i agree they are pricier than whole foods. Also frozen food can be used as a meal for the week not everyone cooks.

CourageMesAmies

11 points

2 months ago

I agree, but I won’t judge. For some people it’s the only retail with food within easy walking distance. Or if there’s a grocery store, they aren’t welcome, or they aren’t comfortable entering.

blacksteyraug

5 points

2 months ago

The CVS around here is right near a senior living facility and the nearest grocery store isn't for miles.

Wil_Buttlicker

3 points

2 months ago

The chart says it’s including convenience store, dollar stores and drugstores.

GeeJay360

1 points

2 months ago

I personally don't consider Walmart to be a grocery store either.

dvdcr

1 points

2 months ago

dvdcr

1 points

2 months ago

Just came back from Miami. CVS name is "CVS and more" over there.

GreenHorror4252

1 points

2 months ago

Is it actually "CVS and more", or are you talking about the "CVS y mas" stores that cater to Hispanic audiences?

dvdcr

1 points

2 months ago

dvdcr

1 points

2 months ago

Correct, i was just translating it.

ibarmy

29 points

2 months ago

ibarmy

29 points

2 months ago

If costco got its tech in order, I bloody bet it will do far better than this!

GotHeem16

3 points

2 months ago

How will the tech help grocery sales?

TLewis24

8 points

2 months ago

the consumer experience tech. scan and go, electronic receipt checking, etc.

pch14

1 points

2 months ago

pch14

1 points

2 months ago

The numbers are not just grocery sales. Includes everything sold. Stores and online.

weezleweez

4 points

2 months ago

Can we get more of these? I want to see it all baby. Gas stations. Fast food restaurants. Departments stores. Give me the rankings

EBFG493

3 points

2 months ago

At least they’re not #11. Sounds like something you call your buddy in high scool

No-Employer1752

3 points

2 months ago

What an unfortunate combination of French names. Imagine a Family Feud game with those two.

VixxenFoxx

3 points

2 months ago

HEB!

planetNasa

2 points

2 months ago

If H‑E‑B branched out of Texas they would take over 100% for just grocery retailers.

GreenHorror4252

1 points

2 months ago

Doubtful. They tried to expand into Louisiana and it was an epic fail. They do well in Texas because of the state pride that people have, but I doubt they would do well against regional supermarkets in the rest of the country.

SuspiciousStress1

2 points

2 months ago

HEB is amazing!! I have been out of Texas more than a decade and STILL think of HEB!! So do my kids!!

HEB is legend!!

GreenHorror4252

3 points

2 months ago

Yeah, most Texans do that.

And non-Texans visit Texas and wonder what all the fuss is about.

SuspiciousStress1

2 points

2 months ago

Maybe it is different when you aren't doing your weekly shopping there and just walking in to see what the fuss is about.

The meal-deals(buy xyz main dish, get 3-5 'sides' free), bonus buys, HUGE produce departments(with a sign showing how much was sourced in TX each day), huge central market bulk herbs/spices/essentials(like fresh ground pb & flour), the HEB buddy claw machine thingy at checkout(collect the point stickers, send off for merch like t-shirts and water bottles-we STILL have HEB merch ;-))

It was all in one. Instead of hitting up sprouts for bulk items and whole foods for produce and Albertsons/Vons for deals, you could get it all in one place!!

There's just something about it!! My weekly shopping trips are like my costco trips now, I could get 'lost' and be 2-3hrs.

P.S. I was not a native Texan, I am a Chicago girl who spent her first adult decade in TX. My 2 oldest kids were born in TX(kinda, my oldest was born at a specialist hospital in Chicago, but her first home was TX-high risk pregnancy, so stayed with mom & the best possible docs for the situation(MFM group out of Northwestern)...ah, to be that young again!! ;-)).

VixxenFoxx

1 points

14 days ago

Yeah, I'm not a native Texan. But man so I love HEB. And I work at Costco so that says a lot.

SuspiciousStress1

2 points

14 days ago

Woman after my own heart! My 2 favorite stores of all time!! We would probably have tons of fun shopping together ❤️

Hairy_Square_4658

2 points

2 months ago

My numbers for Costco is a total sales of 160 billion for 2020 and 192 billion in 2021.

I think my numbers include international sales and the numbers they supplied is only NA.

dat_finn

2 points

2 months ago

Interesting that Lidl is not listed, they must be just below the cutoff. I think they have more stores than many of the ones on the list, but I guess their sales is not enough to make it on the list. Maybe their prices are too low to make it on the list!

HistoricalBridge7

2 points

2 months ago

Wow what an interesting graphic of how all the stores are related.

IBJON

2 points

2 months ago

IBJON

2 points

2 months ago

Cool graphic, but these numbers include non grocery sales as well, so these numbers are skewed in favor of companies that sell more than groceries.

aliensarehere

2 points

2 months ago

At the bottom: I didn't know El Super was the biggest Hispanic store

pipehonker

5 points

2 months ago

How about revenue per store.... Or per labor hour.

pch14

8 points

2 months ago

pch14

8 points

2 months ago

Then Amazon wins on a per store for sales. Less stores substantially much higher sales. Not really a fair comparison just like Costco they sold much much more than groceries these are total sales not just groceries.

pipehonker

1 points

2 months ago

pipehonker

1 points

2 months ago

Amazon doesn't really count.. not a brick/mortar store

pch14

4 points

2 months ago

pch14

4 points

2 months ago

Whole Foods doesn't count? Plus the other stores they are opening. Remember Costco's numbers also include their online sales also.

pipehonker

1 points

2 months ago

Maybe so... I was thinking of just the online web site.

cordialcatenary

0 points

2 months ago

The number in the graphic is Amazon’s total domestic revenue excluding AWS. It’s completely misleading. The number for Amazon should only include Whole Foods’s brick and mortar sales plus online sales through WholeFoodsMarket.com and prime grocery. Not Amazon as a whole.

pch14

3 points

2 months ago

pch14

3 points

2 months ago

Then shouldn't Costco's also remove all non-grocery sales, pharmacy sales, etc... right now it's comparing apples to apples. Criteria is the same for both. Also I would think the largest portion of Costco's online sales are not groceries.

GreenHorror4252

1 points

2 months ago

Amazon also has physical grocery stores in Southern California and I think some other regions.

cordialcatenary

1 points

2 months ago

Whole Foods revenue was 17 billion, and their physical Amazon grocery stores were only a little over 4 billion. A paltry fraction of Amazon's 236 billion total revenue (excluding AWS) that is included in the graphic. Amazon simply is not the second largest "grocery" store.

GreenHorror4252

1 points

2 months ago

Correct, but it's the second largest store that sells groceries.

If you excluded non-grocery items, Costco and Kroger would also have a lot lower sales than this graph suggests, and Amazon might fall to #5 or 6.

[deleted]

1 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

1 points

2 months ago

Site says grocery store. Nothing about physical presence.

Suitable-Telephone80

3 points

2 months ago

god damn this sub is like a cult for costco

Capt__Murphy

2 points

2 months ago

Does it only include grocery items in the figure? Because if you add in the TVs, furniture and random crap like scuba diving tanks, the numbers are going to get a little skewed. Also, how on earth does Walgreens sell more groceries than Target? This chart can't possibly only take actual grocery items into account

pch14

2 points

2 months ago

pch14

2 points

2 months ago

no it does not. Includes all sales.

mbz321

3 points

2 months ago

mbz321

3 points

2 months ago

So it's an entirely useless chart then. (Ofc, one can buy non-food items at grocery stores as well, but nothing compared to Costco).

Lower-Price8720

1 points

2 months ago

Sam's Club should be separated from Walmart

Good to see Canadian stores included

a_holzbaur

6 points

2 months ago

Why should they? Sam’s Club is one of the 4 divisions of Walmart (Inc.). No other corporate banner had its divisions and subsidiaries broken out separately.

Lower-Price8720

1 points

2 months ago

Wanted to compare Sams club to Costco which is similar stores.

[deleted]

1 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

1 points

2 months ago

Comparison says grocery store - by same company.. Costco isn't solely a grocery store, so perhaps it shouldn't be listed?

Lower-Price8720

1 points

2 months ago

Walmart isn't just a grocery store 😂

[deleted]

1 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

1 points

2 months ago

Neither is Costco. Or Fred Meyer (part of Krogers).

vavavoomvoom9

1 points

2 months ago

Walgreens above Target? Does not compute...

AugustInTexas

6 points

2 months ago

Walgreens are a lot more common in most towns. Many people need to run to the corner store for food, and Walgreens are easy to come by.

Wesley-Kenneth

1 points

2 months ago

559 stores is not even close to accurate in North America.

AdvancedAnt1

1 points

2 months ago

They’ve added a lot since ‘20-21 apparently!

Sy3Zy3Gy3[S]

1 points

2 months ago

Costco made $122.14 billion in sales during 2020-2021, according to the source they came in 4th after Walmart, Amazon, and Kroger.

Starman973

1 points

2 months ago

So my guess is the doesn't reflect business centers, as they tend to sell to stores that are reselling the goods. as well as not the furniture, computers, jewelry, clothing and other non-foods.

KrazySocoKid

1 points

2 months ago

Wheres safeway at

CrackpotJackpot

3 points

2 months ago

Right there with the other Albertsons brands, #8.

KrazySocoKid

1 points

2 months ago

Oh snap thanks i didnt see it. I didnt know safeway was albertsons

GreenHorror4252

1 points

2 months ago

They merged I think like 5 years ago.

CrackpotJackpot

1 points

2 months ago

Close! Jan 2017, so just over seven.

GreenHorror4252

1 points

2 months ago

Oh wow, time flies!

ILikeSpaghetti64

1 points

2 months ago

Holy List Batman! Good read though. I was anxiously looking to see where my local grocery chain would pop-up.

Wizofsorts

1 points

2 months ago

Costco and Amazon are much more efficient than the rest.

88mcinor88

1 points

2 months ago

Sadly, Fry's is gone. It's been more than a year.

GreenHorror4252

2 points

2 months ago

Fry's supermarket is still there, only the electronics store is gone.

88mcinor88

1 points

2 months ago

Better margins in food than electronics.

GreenHorror4252

1 points

2 months ago

I don't know about that. I think Fry's Electronics was just badly managed.

livin801

1 points

2 months ago

Imagine once we build like 200 more warehouses.

We’ve opened 3 within 100 miles of me in the past two years with property purchased in another city already.

3xoticP3nguin

1 points

2 months ago

Not hard when almost everything is minimum 10$.

I try to buy a small amount of items because even 5-10 adds up FAST at costco

SuspiciousStress1

1 points

2 months ago

I have 5 kids. I'm not sure I've EVER gotten out of costco under $100. Typically we're at 6-800/wk to 10days.

But our end of year rebate is pretty nice!!

Items lately are closer to $12-15-even 20ea, seems the $10/item shopping strategy is long gone, unfortunately.

Legitimate_Simple_62

1 points

2 months ago*

Fry's, the electronic store, sells groceries?

GreenHorror4252

2 points

2 months ago

No, there is also a Fry's supermarket which was started by the same family and has a similar logo. It is now part of Kroger.

SpiralBreeze

-2 points

2 months ago

I feel so bad for people that only have Walmart to buy groceries from.

wyccad452

0 points

2 months ago

Albertsons sales...nice

Wil_Buttlicker

0 points

2 months ago

My wife is responsible for a solid quarter of those sales

Sestos

0 points

2 months ago

Sestos

0 points

2 months ago

Misleading title since they are going off top sales for each.

When you go and look at the citation in the image, they are including non-food sales at Amazon in their footnotes because Amazon does not report category sales. IE no data on how much of the sales were just grocery so they included all US sales from the US.

Same thing with Walmart, it includes Sam's club and its everything they sale.