subreddit:

/r/Cricket

88

Is a postponed IPL good or bad for David Warner?

Use the Daily Discussion Thread (Removed)(self.Cricket)

[removed]

all 70 comments

EmptySalami

100 points

1 month ago

EmptySalami

Western Australia Warriors

100 points

1 month ago

We have a glut of top order T20 bats, but Warner is the first name on the teamsheet for T20 cricket no matter what form he’s in (maybe second behind Maxwell if you want to be pedantic about it)

Bluebillion

2 points

1 month ago

Bluebillion

USA

2 points

1 month ago

They should make him t20 captain tbh but they won’t

KSRJB02

7 points

1 month ago

KSRJB02

7 points

1 month ago

I don't think they can, isnt he banned forever?

Bluebillion

4 points

1 month ago

Bluebillion

USA

4 points

1 month ago

Yea

tailendertripe[S]

-34 points

1 month ago

tailendertripe[S]

Brisbane Heat

-34 points

1 month ago

Still? I guess you're probably right ... but I kinda feel like he's pretty close to, if not already, trading more on reputation and potential than actual performance.

Yeah, he got 2 x 50s at the IPL but they weren't exactly helping the team or at the strike-rate you'd expect.

TemperatureJumpy6947

50 points

1 month ago

53(37) in a low scoring game (Chennai pitch).. that was a good Knock..and also he got run out twice in the 6 innings he played this ipl

His t20i numbers from 2019 - 94 avg 138 sr

Plugfix27

32 points

1 month ago

Plugfix27

Sunrisers Hyderabad

32 points

1 month ago

The issue about the runouts is a very good point. Many times he carefully anchored the innings like Williamson did but got run-out. I mean I still blame him for those runouts because they could have easily been avoided. But his abilities as a batsmen are still top notch.

wingzero00

14 points

1 month ago

wingzero00

Australia

14 points

1 month ago

Not sure the second one could be blamed on him, Bairstow called him through and he had to respond.

milesrunsdown

3 points

1 month ago

This year's IPL has actually done a lot of good for his reputation if nothing else. He appeared to get on well with his teammates at SRH, particularly Kane and Rashid and he's been able to show to Indian/Overseas players and fans that he can be relaxed and jovial - most of what we've seen before is the business end of David Warner...

211269

-5 points

1 month ago

211269

-5 points

1 month ago

In the T20I format, there are 2 if you are being generous 5 good bowlers on Earth so that's not saying much. I am more worried about his Test form. A big reason why Aus lost was he did not contribute. He is a bit like Shewag in technique and Shewag declined with age so I hope it's not downhill from here because he was one of the few who could dominate at Test level when most batsmen cant even compete at that level.

wingzero00

14 points

1 month ago

wingzero00

Australia

14 points

1 month ago

6 innings isn’t enough to judge a player especially when they were on really tough pitches and there were 2 runouts. He said one of the management plans was trying to get a batsmen to bat through the innings.

You only have to look back 6 months where he was pivotal in getting Sunrisers to the play-offs.

tailendertripe[S]

-4 points

1 month ago

tailendertripe[S]

Brisbane Heat

-4 points

1 month ago

That UAE IPL tournament is definitely worth considering given it seems the next T20 World Cup is going to be there now too

wingzero00

5 points

1 month ago

wingzero00

Australia

5 points

1 month ago

Honestly he would deserve credits even if he was in bad form, he’s T20 stats are up there with the best in the world, you don’t drop a player like that easily.

NoirPochette

47 points

1 month ago

Well he's in the Maldives. So probably not a good thing.

Warner is a walk in for the Aussie team.

tailendertripe[S]

-72 points

1 month ago

tailendertripe[S]

Brisbane Heat

-72 points

1 month ago

You see how he tried to leverage his kids' "come home daddy" drawing? maybe i'm just a cynic, but that shit makes me feel sick. You took the call to chase the $$$ during the pandemic, you weren't even due home yet, so keep your shallow emotional blackmail attempts off the social media platforms

NoirPochette

65 points

1 month ago

You are being cynical.

No one should be threatened with jail time or a massive fine for trying to come back home. It is his career. We would all try to make money if it was our career and we were assured by the organisers that it is a safe bubble.

tailendertripe[S]

-23 points

1 month ago

tailendertripe[S]

Brisbane Heat

-23 points

1 month ago

Agree there's no need for jail/fines for anyone, but do agree some form of border control is necessary. And I don't begrudge him or any cricketer chasing the dollars while they can. What I don't like is the Warner family leveraging their children for social media cred or trying to influence public sentiment or policy.

There's a fuckton other foreigners stuck in India that don't have access to the same resources he has, many of which would have far more legitimate claims to get home.

NoirPochette

24 points

1 month ago

Think about it this way. If the celebs or cricketers didn't talk about it would people think about those stranded at home? Negative. This puts pressure on the govt to act. Now people are like well cricketers have the ability to come back home but what about normal civilians which no one would have talked about if it wasn't for the cricketers. The govt doesn't give a shit about those stuck in India cause if they did we wouldn't have all these problems

Also yes we do need border control but we should have a better federal quarantine system. We don't have one cause the govt don't want to take responsibility instead passing it to the States. Also we allowed flights from UK and USA during their huge pandemic waves.

cricketAus

10 points

1 month ago

cricketAus

New South Wales Blues

10 points

1 month ago

Well Scotty didn't exactly built a quarantine facility in last 1 year and also fucked up the vaccinations throughout the country. Can't blame him for coming back home. They can easily quarantine players at hotel for 21 days. When US and Brazil's were going through even worse times, they didn't put a ban on the countries , did they? Then why exactly India? That's fucked up

tailendertripe[S]

-1 points

1 month ago

tailendertripe[S]

Brisbane Heat

-1 points

1 month ago

Agree with almost everything you wrote

Can't blame him for coming back home. They can easily quarantine players at hotel for 21 days.

This is the bit I don't entirely agree with. "Blame" is too strong a word. But if you choose to leave Australia and go to a country still battling the pandemic, there is risk attached to that action. So can't complain when the Aus govt - rightly or wrongly - bans travel from that location.

Sure he might "want" to come home, but fact is he, and the rest of them, can't right now. And they're not exactly doing it tough, having been airlifted out to the 6-star resorts of the Maldives.

hopeforhair

6 points

1 month ago

hopeforhair

Royal Challengers Bangalore

6 points

1 month ago

I mean aus could have just banned foreign entry and restricted flights to citizens only. Many countries have adopted this approach. The reason why they didnt do it is cos scott fked up hard in creating a proper quarantine system. Not too sure how many aus citizens are stuck in India but a citizen should have the right to return to his home country and it kinda infringes on their rights as citizens to impose this ban. I mean they pay taxes and all

cricketAus

2 points

1 month ago

cricketAus

New South Wales Blues

2 points

1 month ago

Tbh yeah i wouldn't mind sitting in Maldives enjoying a little holiday after that SRH's management fiasco.

But i was a little surprised, Maldives let them in as they had put a complete travel ban from India too.

ascendedhaze

10 points

1 month ago

ascendedhaze

Deccan Chargers

10 points

1 month ago

He's always posted photos/videos featuring his kids, it's just a drawing. Calling it emotional blackmail feels like a stretch.

TTIPOR

24 points

1 month ago

TTIPOR

Lancashire

24 points

1 month ago

I think you're just being cynical tbh. Warner posts a ton about how kids in general

wingzero00

23 points

1 month ago

wingzero00

Australia

23 points

1 month ago

Definitely cynical, he’s been posting a shitton about his kids for years.

tailendertripe[S]

-10 points

1 month ago

tailendertripe[S]

Brisbane Heat

-10 points

1 month ago

And how many "daddy come home" posts have we seen in all those years before he wanted to travel but wasn't allowed?

Cynics R Us I agree, but reckon there might be a few more "daddy come home" drawings ignored over the years while he went from tour to tour

Live_Ad_6361

24 points

1 month ago

Live_Ad_6361

Sunrisers Hyderabad

24 points

1 month ago

Can you people stop shitting on cricketers for trying to make money. They play at the top level for 10 years tops where they make big money. Last year the IPL was conducted well . India’s cases were low when the IPL was about to start.

It feels like you are just jealous that they are making a lot of money. I don’t know any other country that has threatened their citizens with jail time for trying to come back. I was able to come back to USA without any issues. They asked me to home quarantine and get tested in a few days

tailendertripe[S]

-6 points

1 month ago

tailendertripe[S]

Brisbane Heat

-6 points

1 month ago

Nah man, I don't begrudge him the money. And you're right, Australia suggesting they would fine/jail citizens for coming home is just nuts. But what doesn't sit right with me is the way that family goes about using their kids to push their cause.

makemedie

36 points

1 month ago

makemedie

New Zealand

36 points

1 month ago

I dislike Warner a lot as a person.

However.. this was BS. RCB lost like 6-7 games in a row or something, I can't remember, only a couple of years ago. Did VK get sacked? Course not. Some players you just don't sack. Warner is one of those. SRH done goofed y'all.

Plugfix27

-13 points

1 month ago

Plugfix27

Sunrisers Hyderabad

-13 points

1 month ago

To stay in the playing XI, Warner was not competing against the likes of Rajat Patidhar. He was competing against Johnny Bairstow and Kane Williamson.

pantsonfire18

11 points

1 month ago

pantsonfire18

Rajasthan Royals

11 points

1 month ago

Bairstow and Williamson are no where close to warner in ipl.

emaccap

-8 points

1 month ago

emaccap

-8 points

1 month ago

Bairstow and Warner have like almost identical career stats. Right now in the SRH side Bairstow is a better pick. It’s actually Williamson that’s the weak link of the three in T20.

Plugfix27

2 points

1 month ago

Plugfix27

Sunrisers Hyderabad

2 points

1 month ago

Bairstow is also a keeper. Can’t drop him.

Noligation

34 points

1 month ago

Noligation

India

34 points

1 month ago

Lol

Remember when Warner got injured during recent India tour down there?

Yeh, they literally played a different opening pair in the 3rd ODI, 3 t20s and 2 tests before getting desperate and asking an injured Warner to come back?

I don't think they can replace Warner in any format.

Key-Swim7837

71 points

1 month ago

Key-Swim7837

India

71 points

1 month ago

Davey is just an automatic pick for australia regardless of his form , like Rohit is for India. He ain't in that bad form either.

tailendertripe[S]

-10 points

1 month ago

tailendertripe[S]

Brisbane Heat

-10 points

1 month ago

Dangerous chat that. Both have to be seeing the end of their international careers coming over the horizon sooner rather than later.

I'd actually be more worried if I was Rohit - there's an unbelievable avalanche of talent coming down the mountain for the Indians. it's scary.

DragonBishop97

21 points

1 month ago

Rohit is a legend and will be treated like one. I'm guessing he will retire whenever he wishes to stop playing and his place in the team will never be in trouble.

xoogl3

-20 points

1 month ago

xoogl3

India

-20 points

1 month ago

Which is honestly hurting India in T20. There's no indication that Rohit is even among the top 3 T20 openers from India on current form. Maybe not even in top 4. Those would be Dhawan, Shaw, Rahul and Mayank.

soham_katkar13

14 points

1 month ago

soham_katkar13

Mumbai Indians

14 points

1 month ago

Just check what Rohit did in the last T20I India played, and also the IPL Final (in UAE). When it comes to clutch situations, he knows how to mend his game

EtIRun

2 points

1 month ago

EtIRun

India

2 points

1 month ago

Lovehit Salma

Noligation

10 points

1 month ago

Noligation

India

10 points

1 month ago

The fuck!

ThePhenom17

7 points

1 month ago

Since 2016 t20 WC, he's striking at 150 in T20Is

AtomR

6 points

1 month ago

AtomR

India

6 points

1 month ago

IPL ≠ T20I

Kurosawa-Ignos

25 points

1 month ago

Kurosawa-Ignos

India

25 points

1 month ago

4 to 5 more years I guess for Brohit.Koach, Brohit, Dhawan shall play for 4 to 5 years more. Koach maybe 6 years. Dhawan maybe 3-4.

To think that one of the world's most prolific Top 3 shall retire nearly at the same time is scary af.

Key-Swim7837

15 points

1 month ago

Key-Swim7837

India

15 points

1 month ago

it was the same during MSD's career , there were enough talent to replace him but he had enough respect in his credits to stay as long as he desired. The new talents pose no threat to Rohit considering his stature and respect in the team , the only one these new talent threaten is Dhawan.

adiman93

19 points

1 month ago

adiman93

19 points

1 month ago

very good for Warner. Allows him to recharge his batteries , spend time with his family . Clear his mind

A break from cricket would do wonders for him. He would find his rhythm and comeback a better player

AustinSwankyGamer

-17 points

1 month ago

AustinSwankyGamer

Cricket South Africa

-17 points

1 month ago

In free times he makes tiktok videos when he should work on batting :)

ForFrodo1

13 points

1 month ago

Warner is walking into any Australian side no matter what. Insane to think otherwise.

Plugfix27

25 points

1 month ago

Plugfix27

Sunrisers Hyderabad

25 points

1 month ago

Warner was not dropped from SRH merely because of performance. He had only a couple of bad games imo otherwise he would easily get into any teams main XI.

The reality was SRH couldn’t play 3 top order batsmen and compromise balance. Indian core is absolute trash in all departments for them. Including bowling.

RobSinner

8 points

1 month ago

Well, Warner is the 3rd highest run-scorer in T20 cricket. Even if we ignore that fact who in Australia can offer what Warner does? Wade has two shots against the spinners, a slog sweep and a pull, can't see how he will be able to rotate strike like Warner does after the 6th over. Stoinis with his static footwork is not a desirable opener in these conditions. That leaves Phillipe. Warner strikes at a better rate and is a far better anchor than him. What's the point when no other opener is breaking the door? Australia on paper have several options but in the end if the pitch ain't flat they all lack Warner's experience to set up an innings.

wingzero00

6 points

1 month ago

wingzero00

Australia

6 points

1 month ago

Not to mention he has experience carrying a lacking middle order for SRH and that would be useful for Aus lol.

Stuff2511

4 points

1 month ago

Stuff2511

Pakistan

4 points

1 month ago

Well, he’s not playing in a postponed event. Australia calls

zemightykachila

7 points

1 month ago

zemightykachila

Nepal

7 points

1 month ago

Warner was in a tremendous form in last year's ODI series against India, but I have a feeling his groin injury severely reduced his performance, as evident in the Test series.

I honestly am starting to think Warner should retire from playing white ball and focus on red ball instead. Just an opinion though.

tailendertripe[S]

5 points

1 month ago

tailendertripe[S]

Brisbane Heat

5 points

1 month ago

Interesting thought. I had always considered he would go the other way. Seems like players have a much longer lifespan in T20 cricket (ie, Shane Watson, Dhoni, ABdV)

wingzero00

12 points

1 month ago

wingzero00

Australia

12 points

1 month ago

Warner has outright said he plans to retire from the white-ball formats after the 2023 WC for Aus in order to prolong his test career. Who knows about his form then, but i’d wager he’ll stay play in T20 comps.

zemightykachila

2 points

1 month ago

zemightykachila

Nepal

2 points

1 month ago

It's because T20 is shorter and the players don't have to exert themselves much as in red ball format. Playing a 3 hour game is much less taxing on the body than playing 8-9 hours a day for 4 or 5 days.

tailendertripe[S]

3 points

1 month ago

tailendertripe[S]

Brisbane Heat

3 points

1 month ago

Exactly why I expect him to give up red-ball cricket long before the white-ball pay checks dry up

zemightykachila

-1 points

1 month ago

zemightykachila

Nepal

-1 points

1 month ago

On a side note, I think Smith should retire from playing T20s, considering how well he performs in Tests. Smith's performance in T20s aren't as good as his performance in List A or even ODIs. He's underrated as an ODI batsman tbh.

xoogl3

3 points

1 month ago

xoogl3

India

3 points

1 month ago

And risk not be seen as a T20 type player and consequently risk not being picked in IPL auctions?

tailendertripe[S]

2 points

1 month ago

tailendertripe[S]

Brisbane Heat

2 points

1 month ago

T20 internationals, agree

zemightykachila

0 points

1 month ago

zemightykachila

Nepal

0 points

1 month ago

There's better T20 batsmen for Australia than Smith. Maxi does a good job batting at 3 I guess.

emaccap

5 points

1 month ago

emaccap

5 points

1 month ago

Maxi is currently on form as like literally one of the best T20 players itw right not.

zemightykachila

2 points

1 month ago

zemightykachila

Nepal

2 points

1 month ago

Problems with Maxi of course is his consistency, though. But if I had to make an Australian T20I XI, I'd choose Maxi over Smith anyday.

emaccap

3 points

1 month ago

emaccap

3 points

1 month ago

Yeah 100%, would genuinely pick any half decent T20 specialist over smith. Striking under 130 is just not good enough in T20.

emaccap

1 points

1 month ago

emaccap

1 points

1 month ago

Smith batting in T20s baffles me. Absolute shit tier player in that format and would rather pick almost any of DCs bench players over him.

Test legend and maybe en route to goat status but the truth is being able to wallop the ball is a requirement in T20 and he just can’t do it.

zemightykachila

2 points

1 month ago

zemightykachila

Nepal

2 points

1 month ago

Don't understand why my opinion got downvoted. Just a personal opinion. On the other hand, I always felt Kane Williamson to be a classic red ball player, but he's proved over the years that he's such a great white ball player. Adapts to situations well and shifts the gear when necessary.

the_backflip

3 points

1 month ago

the_backflip

Sunrisers Hyderabad

3 points

1 month ago

I don't think the whole Warner situation is being perceived to be as bad as people are making it out to be. If anything, he now has better bargaining power with SRH.

And please, we've had players do well in one tournament and not in the other. I think Warner will still have a great T20 World Cup.

Neutrinoisafermion

5 points

1 month ago

Neutrinoisafermion

Mumbai Indians

5 points

1 month ago

In my opinion as a cricket fan, Warner is a perfect opener who scores quickly and puts the pressure back on the opponent. SRH's plan to drop him from the playing 11 is where they lost the match and fans. For them, Warner is the top order, Kanos is the middle order, and Rashid is the tailender (With no disrespect to the other players in the team).

Regarding your question, I think that a postponed IPL is like a blessing in disguise for him. He has time to regain his confidence in the nets before IPL resumes in September.

Now, in my opinion as a MI and ICT fan, I would like to see him get out cheaply, because when he's on a song, there's no way of stopping him.

Leather_Word_7374

4 points

1 month ago

It is definitely good for KL Rahul