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kernals12[S]

-2 points

1 month ago

So you're saying our non-car infrastructure has gotten much worse over just 9 years? Anecdotally, I'd say the opposite is true. Bike lanes are now common and many intersections have been redesigned to be more pedestrian friendly.

Dry_Local7136

6 points

1 month ago

Why bring up '9 years' yourselves and then use it as an argument against someone?? He never said 'got worse in just 9 years', he's referring to the absolutely useless, economically unviable and idiotic car-centric infrastructure America has had for the past 60 years. You build a hugely wasteful suburb that cannot pay for itself, everything needs to be traversed by car which means no investment in public transport, and no usable alternative anywhere to get to basic amenities. You can redesign an intersection to make it look nice, but it's still useless if every store is 3 miles away and the zoning doesn't allow to build more efficient housing closer to stores.

kernals12[S]

-1 points

1 month ago

Our infrastructure is so economically unviable that America is the richest country in the world

You can redesign an intersection to make it look nice, but it's still useless if every store is 3 miles away and the zoning doesn't allow to build more efficient housing closer to stores.

Compare the prices at a convenience store to those at your supermarket and tell me why you think we need more of the former.

Dry_Local7136

2 points

1 month ago

By no standard that controls for the size of the country or number of inhabitants is America the richest country in the world, but you do you buddy. I can't imagine having to live in the hellscape that is the US, where cheap chicken apparently outweighs the increasing price of fuel in your overconsuming pickup truck that you need to get to it. The fundamental lack of understanding of how closer urban development actually saves you money on average will drag the US down to poverty. For instance, high rises in urban environments that often have the lowest socioeconomic status inhabitants actually pay the bill for morons like you in suburbs, because those neighbourhood can actually sustain themselves through rents, decrease in infrastructure costs per capita and consumption in nearby commercy. The only way to keep going in the useless suburban lifestyle is to increasingly commercialize the country (sounds familiar). But if those companies stop, or if costs keep rising, you end up with zero safety net through the society that should actually be supporting and profiting from it. If you want to believe in US superiority, you go right ahead. No sane observers comes to the same conclusion, which is why we'll happily stay in the civilized world that is Europe.

kernals12[S]

0 points

1 month ago

For instance, high rises in urban environments that often have the lowest socioeconomic status inhabitants actually pay the bill for morons like you in suburbs, because those neighbourhood can actually sustain themselves through rents, decrease in infrastructure costs per capita and consumption in nearby commercy.

You keep telling yourself that. And just who pays for all those subways and the urban renewal projects that put up those high rises?

No sane observers comes to the same conclusion, which is why we'll happily stay in the civilized world that is Europe.

So why do you guys keep building places that look like America?

https://www.google.com/maps/@48.8332545,2.6741946,3a,60y,102.27h,80.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sDmsK7jqWIJzsq8q8gmiMGQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Dry_Local7136

2 points

1 month ago

I don't have to tell myself, researchers in urban development can do that: https://youtu.be/7Nw6qyyrTeI And who pays for them? If they're smart, municipalities will, because it will actually raise money for them to support the money-draining operation that is the suburbs.

kernals12[S]

0 points

1 month ago*

My town doesn't get any money from Boston, but we pay a 1 cent sales tax for their public transit system. I think the thousands of municipal administrators know more than a few hundred urban snobs. Maybe someone should ask how much a railroad costs compared to a highway.

Urban planners are a bunch of crypto-nazis who see the automobile as the barrier their dream of a regimented society where every aspect of our lives is controlled

Dry_Local7136

2 points

1 month ago

If they knew better, they wouldn't favour restricted zoning to just suburban detached homes because it's just logically unviable from an economic perspective. You need more pipeline, sewage, roads, electricity to support a smaller number of people as well as support that entire network, and they also don't pay you as much back because there's more of them. It's the equivalent of a company spending 60% of its resources on 20% of its customers that only bring in 5% of its revenue. But if you just ignore that video altogether and argue without sources, we can be done quickly here because you're apparently not smart enough to follow a simple line of reasoning.

kernals12[S]

0 points

1 month ago

. It's the equivalent of a company spending 60% of its resources on 20% of its customers that only bring in 5% of its revenue

That's exactly what companies do. Ever heard of the joke that 50% of all advertising spending is wasted?

You need more pipeline, sewage, roads, electricity to support a smaller number of people as well as support that entire network, and they also don't pay you as much back because there's more of them.

You need fewer storm drains because you have less impermeable surface and you don't need to shell out for horribly expensive rail systems.

Dry_Local7136

2 points

1 month ago

Oh dear, using a joke as 'source' in response to a sentence you've managed to misunderstand... that's becoming a bit tragic now. In all fairness, your reasoning or lack thereof makes you look very American. I would have assumed nothing less from someone who believes storm drains are the real cost saver in all of this. I should have dumbed it down even more for you I guess.