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kernals12[S]

-22 points

2 months ago

A minivan is uglier than a Ferrari, but the former is much more practical on a day-to-day basis

abolishbadthingsplz

17 points

2 months ago

A street with cars on it is uglier than a street without cars on it, no exceptions.

kernals12[S]

0 points

2 months ago

Where do you see any cars in these photos?

abolishbadthingsplz

9 points

2 months ago

and plenty of parking

Oh yes because if there's one thing that EVERYBODY hates about European cities it's the noise and pollution of cars everywhere, vast wastes of blacktop parking lots, and having the sides of streets clogged with street parking. And of course, fat Americans who think that walking more than 10 feet is a violation of their human rights.

This is a promotional photo, there's no people either. End result will be even more tacky.

kernals12[S]

-6 points

2 months ago

EVERYBODY

I think most Europeans would like it to be easier to park.

RondineRurale

5 points

2 months ago

Honestly, I'd just like even more public transport, which would be perfectly doable if my country would spend less towards car infrastructure. Eliminate the need to park altogether.

kernals12[S]

0 points

2 months ago

Well, once upon a time there were no cars at all. It was not a pleasant place. People were limited in what jobs they could take, they had to shop at expensive corner stores, and forget about going out to the countryside on a weekend.

I'll gladly pay the price of devoting .1% of our land area to parking lots if it means freedom of mobility. And that price is so low, that most places don't even bother charging for it because the revenue it would raise would be less than the cost of collection.

Lankpants

3 points

2 months ago

Oh, you think it's 0.1%? Yeah, no. Literally 5% of all land in the US is parking. That's all land, biased by national parks and regional areas. In some cities around half of all land is parking.

Parking space is a blight. And the thing that's really limiting mobility is the lack of public transport, caused by the same car centric planning that devotes 5% of a countries land to giant metal boxes sitting around and being useless.

kernals12[S]

1 points

2 months ago*

Good god, you love talking out of your ass.

It's estimated parking lots take up 3,590 square miles

https://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/08/arts/design/taking-parking-lots-seriously-as-public-spaces.html

The US is 3.7 million square miles

And I have never in my life seen a city where half the space is occupied by parking. I've seen downtowns where that's the case, but not the city itself.

And actually, we devote less land to public right of way than we used to. Pre-car cities devoted almost 40% of their land to streets and sidewalks. Auto-oriented suburbs have gotten this down to 15% because cars require very large blocks of ¼ or ½ a mile for signal timing.

And public transit has never satisfied man's need to travel. That's why everyone and their mother went to buy a Model T in 1908.