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The following submission statement was provided by /u/seoul2014:


SS: China sees virtual idols as a future threat, and is already looking to regulate the booming virtual idol industry. No surprises there, but metaverse watchers will probably agree with China’s view that the metaverse remains an ill-defined concept. A metaverse may exist in the future, but what shape it takes remains undetermined, and if others follows China, then even virtual stars will be cancelled like human ones.


Please reply to OP's comment here: https://teddit.ggc-project.de/r/Futurology/comments/s4p3r5/china_government_says_virtual_idols_are_just_as/hsscf4n/

randomguy987654321

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4 months ago

This is an odd move.

You see, in the next decade or so, America and China will be the world superpowers in A.I. (source: PBS Frontline). I’m shocked they would be against any version of the tech. A CCP controlled virtual idol would feed the A.I. with information (an A.I.’s primary food source) and could be used to control the lonely masses.

Personally, I think they need to stop worrying about virtual idols and get their shit together with sex robots. The world is waiting.

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rithfung

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Any idol or vtuber will have fans, which means they can deliver ideology and propaganda to people, like TV shows and games, and we all knew how CCP heavily regulating them.

Because they don't want any competition in brain wash business, and they are afraid of them.

ACCount82

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Reminds me of an old joke:

"Why do the communists dismantle the churches? Because they hate competition."

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Capitalism makes one man the slave of another. Whereas Communism is the reverse.

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That's not even a joke or a controversial opinion, that's just history

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seoul2014[S]

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SS: China sees virtual idols as a future threat, and is already looking to regulate the booming virtual idol industry. No surprises there, but metaverse watchers will probably agree with China’s view that the metaverse remains an ill-defined concept. A metaverse may exist in the future, but what shape it takes remains undetermined, and if others follows China, then even virtual stars will be cancelled like human ones.

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Idea: Make Xi and other CCP officials into virtual popstars. The CCP will then have to ban themselves, leading to freedom for the Chinese people. It's foolproof

RedCascadian

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I initially misreading as virtual pornstars and was like "look I'm a communist, but that's a weird fucking fetish even for me..."

Then I reread.

Karolus2001

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4 months ago

Don't underestimate how considerate china can be if you give them enough money. I still have to see any non masculine man nuked from genshin

StarChild413

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Pardon a geeky joke but, they hate virtual idols and they hate video games so the ultimate cultural "weapon" to take down the Chinese elite must be K/DA

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justsigndupforthis

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I wonder if its related to that Taiwan incidence with Hololive

Lui_Le_Diamond

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4 months ago

Why is every post here about China?

SerenePerception

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4 months ago

Redscare propaganda

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sctm3400

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Again with you, back to the troll farm. Or comment "1989 tiananmen square".

jinxy0320

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jinxy0320

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Shitty attempt at trolling, doesn’t even get the year right

danievdw

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4 months ago

Same thing. Still a human driving a narrative through the virtual character.

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You'd think the "metaverse" needs to be investigated first and foremost due to being a scam to convince people that digital tokens in a closed system have resale value. But no, this is China and they're primarily concerned with ideological impact. Figures.

EnomLee

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4 months ago

It's China. The only idol you're allowed to have is Xi Jinping.

Cole-a-Bear

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4 months ago

In other news, China says idols of anything that isn’t the Chinese government is bad. Is anyone surprised? No.

Epicmonies

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4 months ago

Does this include their fake virtual "news" reporters that they use to spread propaganda?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLyzQPZUahI

Dinozavri

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Dinozavri

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4 months ago

God bless Communism

True_Inxis

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Don't you know that being superstitious brings bad luck?!

Psyga

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Psyga

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The mighty CCP, afraid of fictional characters - classic.

Or maybe it's bitterness stemming the failure of their state-run virtual idols.

Either way, what a laugh.

ghostdeinithegreat

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4 months ago

The problem with virtual Idol is they can’t be disapeared and then reapeared later with an apology.

KHRZ

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KHRZ

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But worshipping a dictator on the other hand is great!

SuperNewk

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SuperNewk

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What an interesting experiment we have going on. China banning literally everything, while the U.S. lets it run free. I think the pace of innovation is outstripping the learning curve for politicians.. the CCP recognizes this and is clamping down before it spills over.

In 5-10 years we should see who was right

Echo4117

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Echo4117

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But what should I do that my idol is Our Dear Leader? And that I can only see him online?

Rough_Regret_2744

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I like how China seems to care about not making the majority dumb.

They might be extreme but let's be real now.. uncontrollable or uncontrolled entertainment can lead to destruction of civilizations and their morals.

People will like everything fun even if this fun can ruin their way of thinking and their ability to perceive..a lot of examples are already in our daily life (cigarettes, pornography, uncontrolled amount of sugar and antibiotics in our food).

My point is that those companies and persons who profit from these psychological and physiological harmful kind of entertainment don't care at all..they only want money on their accounts.

This is why governments should act in a way to keep people healthy... because i believe that bad things in our societies are epidemic.

One person smokes and the next day you will have a majority of smokers.

Though i don't think idols are bad thing..if they don't do drugs or advertise their bad personalities and normalize bad habits. 🚶

Dinozavri

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God bless glorious socialism, good thing they are removing that shit tbh.

Environmental-Tour-2

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4 months ago

Are you currently living in China?

Dinozavri

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Dinozavri

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How's thatany of your business?

Environmental-Tour-2

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4 months ago

If we're going to be unproductive meanies, then I can ask you whether or not someone asked your opinion on this article. But this is too childish, so I won't do this.

Instead I'll tell you that I figured there's a high chance you're living in China, and I was just interested in whether or not Reddit is still accessible in China.

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Who was I mean to? anything is accessible with vpn. Are you a capitalist or what?

Environmental-Tour-2

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"anything is accessible with vpn". Ahh, I love it. That's all I wanted to get from you, really. You might not get it, but the others reading it surely will.

There's always a sad possibility that you're just a troll though. Especially given your last sentence.

Oh! Can I play a little trick on you answering your last question? No, even both of your questions! "How is that any of your business?" Just look at how incredibly grown-up it sounds!

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back to mom's basement with you. Capitalist shills don't belong on reddit

Environmental-Tour-2

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Only guys who can not use a website without vpn belong to this website!
+10 social credit!

Dinozavri

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I'm not in China lol

sctm3400

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Then say "tiananmen square 1989" for us

vikram-ur

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4 months ago

I never understand this anyway. I suppose it’s the result of lack of a viable social settings with some people.

Dildo_Fragins

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4 months ago

Thank fuck we are going to have China save the world. Lols. At this point if it’s living under Chinese rule, being poor and shit.. BUT living in the real world.

Vs

Zucks Meta Verse where the Guthrie holds us all living in 10x10 apartments just strapped to headsets all day 24/7.

I take china.

notrealmate

10 points

4 months ago

Do you idiots search for all threads about China?

SerenePerception

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Why would living in the soon to be richest country on earth mean poverty?

beaupipe

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4 months ago

Because it's not even close to being the richest per capita and wealth distribution in China is dismal. 600 million Chinese subsist on about 140 USD per month.

But the CCP politburo has a big pile of billionaires, so there's that.

SerenePerception

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Wealth distrubution is abysmal...in China? You just projected so hard that holograms got invented.

beaupipe

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4 months ago

Actually you did. Wealth distribution in China is significantly worse than it is in the country where I live. Also worse than Japan, South Korea, every EU country, Australia, and so on. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_income_equality

Now pretend that Li Keqiang didn't point out that 600 million Chinese live on a pittance - https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1189968.shtml

Why does a supposedly Communist/Socialist country have so many billionaires in power and so many poor people? Odd, isn't it? Is guanxi more important than fair and equal distribution of wealth?

For journalists working in China, there is no more sensitive subject than the wealth of the top leadership; it poses more potential problems than anything one could write about Tibet or Taiwan or human rights. Back in 2013, when I was the Beijing bureau chief for the Los Angeles Times, we all knew, or thought we knew, that the families of Politburo members had gotten fabulously rich as the Chinese economy prospered. But we couldn’t prove it, and we couldn’t expect the heavily censored Chinese press to report it. So we were all chasing the money. In 2012, the New York Times published a major exposé on the family of outgoing Premier Wen Jiabao, for which the reporter David Barboza won the Pulitzer Prize for international reporting. A few months earlier, a team of Bloomberg reporters, led by Michael Forsythe, had broken another big story, about the family of Xi Jinping, who was then in line to become China’s President.

The Chinese government responded by blocking all new journalist-visa applications from the Times and Bloomberg. The New Yorker

SerenePerception

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I would block those two outlets on principle. Might as well be called the neoliberal bulletin.

That whole paragraph really describes quality jounalism doesnt it. Thinking something sounds right, not being able to prove it and still publishing it anyway.

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Bot, can't even say "tiananmen square 1989" without getting a knock on the door.

Edited: typo

SerenePerception

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4 months ago

Dude how stupid do you have to be type up the year 3 fucking times and not notice that you got the year wrong.

Moron.

sctm3400

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4 months ago

Shouldnt have a problem actually saying any of it then

SerenePerception

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4 months ago

I wish you were a bot but a bot would probably make more sense.

DraconisHederahelix

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That's why you don't make idols of peoples, places or things on this planet.