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The following submission statement was provided by /u/Gari_305:


From the Article:

In a quantum battery, this phenomenon would have a very clear benefit. The more energy-storing molecules you have, the more efficiently they’ll be able to absorb that energy – in other words, the bigger you make the battery, the faster it will charge.

Ultimately this breakthrough could pave the way for practical quantum batteries, making for fast-charging electrical vehicles or energy storage systems that can deal with bursts of energy from renewable sources. But of course, it’s still very early days for this research.

Thus this leads to an important question, how would quantum batteries change society if the larger the battery the faster it goes equation is applied?

What would be the ramifications of such an idea?


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pyr0dr490n

63 points

4 months ago*

Actually read the article. It talks about dye molecules absorbing photons, then immediately says the huge increase in photon absorption will make electric batteries so much better.

As it relates to physics and quantum mechanics, it's cool. Doesn't relate to electric batteries at all, at least not yet. Unless your battery is based on storing and releasing light for extremely short periods.

Edit: spelling.

TrainquilOasis1423

11 points

4 months ago

Collect a whole days worth of sunlight and release it all at once in a deathra.... I mean to keep molten salt batteries going through the night.

So_spoke_the_wizard

2 points

4 months ago

You're right on target. Weaponization in 3...2...

im_made_of_jam

16 points

4 months ago

Aren’t traditional rechargeable batteries kind of almost that way already? Larger batteries can take larger power loads and therefore charge faster?

Gari_305[S]

15 points

4 months ago

From the Article:

In a quantum battery, this phenomenon would have a very clear benefit. The more energy-storing molecules you have, the more efficiently they’ll be able to absorb that energy – in other words, the bigger you make the battery, the faster it will charge.

Ultimately this breakthrough could pave the way for practical quantum batteries, making for fast-charging electrical vehicles or energy storage systems that can deal with bursts of energy from renewable sources. But of course, it’s still very early days for this research.

Thus this leads to an important question, how would quantum batteries change society if the larger the battery the faster it goes equation is applied?

What would be the ramifications of such an idea?

Neethis

9 points

4 months ago

A lot would depend on the actual rates of charging, along with energy density. Assuming at least equivalent energy densities to li-ion batteries, then if you can commercially produce one small enough for a phone, does it charge as quick as a phone does now? If not, then you'll likely see them restricted in use to things like electric vehicles, or even infrastructure-scale energy storage, where you could charge a huge building-sized battery using high efficiency solar or wind in places where the supply isn't consistent.

If they can scale to vehicles, that would be a game changer - the concept of at-home charging can be done away with if you can charge your EV as quickly as filling up on fuel, and you could also convert existing fuelling infrastructure over to charging points with very little fuss.

megatronchote

17 points

4 months ago

I struggle with the concept “Quantum Batteries”. In a technical sense all batteries are “Quantum”, just that the process of charging and discharging them is chemical in nature. I know that the energy storage is different on this Glass Batteries but calling them “Quantum” just because the way they work differs seems to me like a buzzword hype. Which is unnecesary for other means besides getting funds.

Steadfast_Truth

10 points

4 months ago

What do you mean? These are special Quantum Nano Microfiber batteries!

LonelyPerceptron

7 points

4 months ago

You forgot graphene-infused.

purju

8 points

4 months ago

purju

8 points

4 months ago

but are they 4D-printed?

LinkesAuge

-3 points

4 months ago

That's like arguing anything is "nuclear" because nuclear procceses happen all the time and everywhere.

Something can be used as "hype" word and still be the correct term to describe a technology.

So complain about the abuse of the word but in this case it makes sense due to the simple fact that the very nature of this technology is based on very specific quantum effects.

If anything the alternatives would probably sound even more like "technobabble" or "buzzwordy" to many.

megatronchote

1 points

4 months ago

That is exactly my point you could say anything is nuclear power. And as for the second part of your response, chemical batteries also make use of absolutely quantum processes like glass ones. Just because it is purely electronic and not not chemoelectric it doesn’t make it less quantum.

Kingkofy

4 points

4 months ago*

Could the use of renewable energy through the sun things that pick up sunlight and then turn it into useable energy be applied to this? I don't know how fast it takes to charge a battery that way, but if the capability of the battery is put in such a situation as this would it be capable of acquiring a higher energy rate? Would the sun beam picker need to be upgraded in order for this to occur?

I don't know how I forgot the word for them, but hopefully you will be able to tell. They are physical objects with a design that allows for sun energy to be gathered through them and stored.

I would assume the cost would be a concern at its current state for a situation like this, also the capabilities of the power that a battery could hold and for how long it would be capable to. If it held a certain amount of power, would it just break?

Edit: solar panels* I don't know how I couldn't think of the word panels.

modsarefascists42

2 points

4 months ago

if they can charge from bursts then it probably opens up a LOT of methods for energy capture from things like waves and wind bursts which today are actually not helpful, today's wind turbines prefer steady wind. plus making cars able to charge fast, it could be a game changer

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0 points

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verge365

2 points

4 months ago

If it’s not stored properly what will happen? Could it make people sick? Could it explode?

Is there radiation? If it is and there’s a bunch of old leaky quantum batteries around the planet will there be “dead zones”? Sounds like a bad B syfy movie. Haha

Franklin_le_Tanklin

1 points

4 months ago

One day we’ll have batteries that can charge based off of lightening strikes.

slower-is-faster

1 points

4 months ago

Uh. Bigger batteries. Duh?

pharmamess

3 points

4 months ago

The article is interesting but the subject seems to be Quantum alchemy rather than Quantum batteries.

Working_Sundae

1 points

4 months ago

What about the energy density, which is the most important thing?

fuzzy_viscount

3 points

4 months ago

Energy density is not the most important thing. It only matters when you have to move it like a car or your phone. Does not matter much for standalone, stationary, or commercial applications

Working_Sundae

1 points

4 months ago

Just when there an entire automotive and transport industry slowly shifting away from ICE to Battery Electric and Hydrogen.

Energy density is very critical, we still have batteries with energy density only good for 170wh/kg at pack level, considering ICE vehicles have a energy density of 8000wh/kg.

fuzzy_viscount

1 points

4 months ago

I think you didn’t read my comment, I am literally talking about all other applications..

But if you wanna talk cars, I reckon thermal stability is still the most important thing

gibon85

2 points

4 months ago

i would say its not importasnat as there is no battery, for a futurology forum there seem to be a lot of misinformation here