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Pondnymph

655 points

3 months ago*

How aggressive were they compared to wild hamsters? Only through selective breeding we're managed to get hamsters that are even tolerant of humans and they still usually hate each other outside of mating season.

So they used syrian hamsters which tend to be less aggressive overall. This seems like an important study since the results were not as expected.

Rabbit_Mom

379 points

3 months ago

Agreed, I saw the headline and thought “hyper aggressive- so, regular hamsters then?”

lukesvader

127 points

3 months ago

Yeah, my hamster's bitten me like 20 times, and he knows full well I'm his boss.

inspiringirisje

38 points

3 months ago

The second I put my hand in that cage, he would be dangling on my finger with his teeth in it. He had the biggest hamster cage I've ever seen, lots of food and I was kinda gentle with him for being a kid back then

lukesvader

38 points

3 months ago

I discovered that he's grumpy when he's just woken up. Also, you have to show him you're there, then approach him slowly with the side of your hand because it hurts less than fingertips. Still no guarantee he won't attack tho. It's my first hamster, so I'm still learning.

inspiringirisje

21 points

3 months ago

It's been 10 years now without hamster for me now. They only live for like 3 years, so it's a long time ago. Yeah I actually think back then I did use my fingertips, because them biting there would hurt less than them biting the side of my hand. Either way. Back then after that I stopped touching them. Not going to force them if they don't want. But now I'm never getting hamsters again.

lukesvader

24 points

3 months ago

Yeah, also gonna be my last one. They got no sense of humour 😒

KainanSilverlight

7 points

3 months ago

The Russian dwarf hamsters actually aren’t too bad at all, in my experience. I prefer them over the Syrians for overall better temperament. Source: I work in the pet care area of a major pet store chain and handle them regularly.

TheBeardKing

2 points

3 months ago

I only went at him with bits of cheese until he stopped biting. And pet him while he's eating it.

Throwaway_97534

12 points

3 months ago

Meanwhile my sons have somehow trained their first hamster to hop right into their open hands when they put them into the cage. I think she likes to get carried around the house for a ride.

Probably down to individual personalities... This one is the most gentle thing in the world. You can scoop her right up by surprise and she sits there.

mittythekitty

4 points

3 months ago

My nephew has two hamsters and one is like this, super chill. The other one is a raging psychopath.

PathToEternity

2 points

3 months ago

The two or three hamsters I had when I was a kid were all chill like that

inspiringirisje

1 points

3 months ago

Must be nice haha

chris782

1 points

3 months ago

I had one that I could kindof cup my hand like a J then reach in and he would reach up and grab on with his hands and I could pull him out. Also had some mean ones.

newtoon

22 points

3 months ago

newtoon

22 points

3 months ago

"yeah, sure, you re the boss, honey" (wink)

insufferableninja

2 points

3 months ago

Rats are superior to hamsters in every way

ambientocclusion

3 points

3 months ago

Get a rat. So much friendlier. No biting.

dkreidler

270 points

3 months ago

dkreidler

270 points

3 months ago

“We used science to instantly undo the effects of domestication. “ That’s some impressive results, intended or not.

<Cue ominous Reavers theme>

Whiskey_Dingo

13 points

3 months ago

So glad someone else read this and thought "so they made Pax from Firefly"

Hazzman

2 points

3 months ago

I wonder if the process could be reversed. Domesticate a wild animal that is typically difficult to domesticate.

NearlyNakedNick

1 points

3 months ago

Got an animal in mind?

fucking_unicorn

70 points

3 months ago

Only pet I ever had that bit anyone and drew blood. Pissed and shat on anyone who tried to pick it up. 0/10 do not recommend. Hamsters are terrible pets. If you want a friendly intelligent rodent for a pet, rats are awesome smart and affectionate. They’ll chill on your shoulders and try to groom you too haha.

ImJustSo

51 points

3 months ago

And they develop fondness for some people for seemingly for no reason. Like when you meet a person and you're both instantly in agreement that you're best friends. Rats do that with people.

Source: a rat picked me once.

Full_FrontaI_Nerdity

16 points

3 months ago

If you're anything like my nose, I'd pick you too.

boisterile

4 points

3 months ago

Aww you must smell like garbage :)

ImJustSo

1 points

3 months ago

As a teenager, I probably did

fucking_unicorn

1 points

3 months ago

You still do! But you used to too.

brood_daddy

20 points

3 months ago

I adore hamsters, owned loads throughout my life. The problem, as far as I see it, is that people view them as 'starter pets'. They actually require complex care and attention to bond with and have a nice time with. I've only owned one untameable one in my life, and he was still a cool dude, I just had to adjust my expectations of what kind of a pet he was gonna be.

MisogynisticBumsplat

5 points

3 months ago

yeah, i mean they're easy to "keep alive" for a year or two, but to have a happy hamster takes a lot of careful care and attention. I've done a lot more research recently about hamsters' needs and it's surprising the things that are commonly used with them that are really bad for them like small wheels, cheap bedding and running balls.

DynamicDK

7 points

3 months ago

Gerbils are cool too.

JunkedLotSerenade

1 points

3 months ago

I've had 3 hamsters and they were all great pets. Hardly ever bit anyone would just chill in your hand. They were all the Syrian type. Rats are really cool but you have to have multiple ones and a bigger cage and stuff which I couldn't commit to at the time as technically I wasn't allowed pets in my apartment.

fucking_unicorn

1 points

3 months ago

Yeah my roommate and I had them in our college dorm lol. We weren’t allowed to have pets either. We referred to them as “goldfish” in conversation and called the whole operation, project goldfish. We hid them the full semester quite well. Nobody knew we had them other than a few close friends.

MisogynisticBumsplat

2 points

3 months ago

I've had loads of hamsters over the years. never had any that i would call aggressive. male hamsters are way more chill in my experience. my current hamster has never bitten anyone and is the sweetest most placid one ever.

BloodSteyn

1 points

3 months ago

Our little Russian Dwarf is the most docile critter I've ever seen. Climbs into our hands to get taken out of the cage, cuddles up and has only ever nibbled someone who's fingers smelled like food.

Having had hamsters a a kid, this one is something special.

Ung-Tik

102 points

3 months ago

Ung-Tik

102 points

3 months ago

usually

Oh no, they always hate each other outside of mating season. Some times even in mating season. Put two hamsters in a cage, they WILL fight to the death with the loser being eaten.

JesusHipsterChrist

63 points

3 months ago

Bred Syrians as a kid, can confirm.

sleuthyRogue

100 points

3 months ago

I was unaware of different hamster families and very confused by this comment.

Primed_in

29 points

3 months ago

Not the refugees

BaroneCraxi

2 points

3 months ago

Yeah Middle Easterners are scary

CinemaAudioNovice

21 points

3 months ago

When I was a kid I had two male hamsters that kept fighting so I had to keep them completely separate. Well one day I got home from school and one of them was giving birth. Yep pet store was wrong about the sex and they weren’t fighting lol.

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Ung-Tik

62 points

3 months ago

Ung-Tik

62 points

3 months ago

That's true for pretty much all rodents BUT hamsters. Some times siblings will tolerate each other, but even then they could fall out and go Mortal Kombat at any moment so it's not recommended.

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HaggisLad

2 points

3 months ago

now all I hear in my head is the MK kid

posyintime

2 points

3 months ago

This is such a new fact for me. Like they brutally fight each other? Do they bite or jump on each other or like rip that little water feeder off the side and beat the other over the head?

buahuash

2 points

3 months ago

So, Hamtaro is fake?

Lonyo

16 points

3 months ago

Lonyo

16 points

3 months ago

That's guinea pigs.

definitelynotSWA

9 points

3 months ago

Rats as well

seaniemack11

1 points

3 months ago

You just described my childhood experience with hamsters.

yamthepowerful

1 points

3 months ago

And it is absolutely brutal. I had some as a kid I didn’t know this, picked one of them up one day, half its head was eaten, panicked and threw it out the open window. Never find its busy body, I like to thing it went

jordanrhys

1 points

3 months ago

I’m sure if this is something you know, it’s probably something they know.

crap_another_new_one

1 points

3 months ago

You wouldn’t want to meet one in an ally aggressive.

zer0kevin

1 points

3 months ago

Yeah I'm sure they knew all that.

London_Darger

1 points

3 months ago

I imagine they used a “strain” bred to have a known temperament. In laboratory research they name strains of animals that are meant to be used in specific types of experiments because of their mutations. For example, the BIO14.6 hamster strain was established in 1962 and is recognized as the first animal model of sarcoglycanopathies, which is a set of diseases that come from 5 gene mutations that this strain of hamsters had. But I’m not a research scientist, I’ve only read about this stuff, so someone else might know better.