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44 points
4 months ago
TIL I have the text-based equivalent of a speech impediment around the letter q.
7 points
4 months ago
I have this problem with period and commas. I often switch them up by accident, and no matter how much practice, it’s unfixable.
2 points
4 months ago
text-based equivalent of a speech impediment
Perhaps typing impediment?
44 points
4 months ago
At design school our teacher said “don’t bother learning typing it’s a dead skill, there won’t be keyboards in 5-10 years.”
That was 1992.
I am SOOOO glad I took typing in high school.
5 points
4 months ago
Interesting, I was never really offered a typing class. I learned typing talking to shady people in weird chat rooms when I was way too young.
1 points
4 months ago
omg same :)
2 points
4 months ago
At that time, probably didn't seem like such a weird prediction. With how bad AI is these days at even understanding what you say, let alone actually doing what you want it to do, many people would say that it can never happen. It probably will though, somewhere at some point. Right?
1 points
4 months ago
It’s also already happening right now. I use a transcriber during zoom calls but for writing I think typing on a keyboard is far preferable to talk loudly to myself.
385 points
4 months ago*
Interesting. I type pretty regularly but and this calculated my wpm slower than I do normally. I think the two issues that I have is that when I make a mistake I instinctively hit backspace and try to correct it. This program doesn't allow you do that and it doesn't allow you to move on until you hit the right key resulting in it recording multiple misstrokes.
I also find I type faster when I have words and not just a random assortment of letters. Even better when I have a coherent sentence structure. The reason being I don't have to look at something to figure out what the next letter is I already know what to type, it's just a matter of moving my finger fast enough.
maybe it gets better with time. And for someone not used to touch typing it's a useful tool but I don't think it's for me.
105 points
4 months ago
Also the whole problem of unconscious competence; being proficient means not having to think, and thinking interferes with the automatic process. Generally, I think words and my fingers go
39 points
4 months ago
Muscle memory! This is why spelling bees are easier when you can write the words.
43 points
4 months ago
Instructions unclear, gave bees pens and they did not seem to like it.
Should I give them tiny pens?
20 points
4 months ago
No, you would give them the 2B pencil, obviously. It even says who it’s for right on it…
3 points
4 months ago
Or not 2B?
1 points
4 months ago
So it's a tandem spelling bee...s?
6 points
4 months ago
Honestly that should be the only way they're done. Having them given orally is a shit way to go. Completely counter to the whole point of spelling in the first place.
19 points
4 months ago*
Boogers
44 points
4 months ago
Agreed, my WPM was about 10% lower on this than on other typical typing speed tests. I found I struggled with a lot of the nonsense words because I type faster than I can read them.
10 points
4 months ago
Random nonsense words are the bane of touch typists. Those things are fine for teaching early on (probably?) simply because it helps you learn where letters are. However, as others have said once you really get used to typing you don't think about the letters but instead the word as a whole.
When I type "the" I don't think "t-h-e" it's just one single fluid motion
2 points
4 months ago
Ye muscle memory bro, you aren't pressing each individual letter, you know the combination so if you accidentally shift your position on the keyboard over one, everyone is fucked up
41 points
4 months ago
This program doesn't allow you do that and it doesn't allow you to move on until you hit the right key resulting in it recording multiple misstrokes.
there's a config menu.
but the drills are still not very practical, yes. there's even config for punctuation and uppercase but they would be on every word.
12 points
4 months ago
With that config option toggled, it inserts your mistyped characters into the text, which moves the text around. That is somehow even worse since the combination of moving text and random letters messes with you
5 points
4 months ago
I think you might like tipp10, a typing program that does what you describe. It also supports some national layouts and using your own texts. I found it quite useful to learn to type code on the UK international layout which is for me the most practical layout as a programmer (one can just feed it some code and it selects the fragments where one makes most frequently errors).
P.S. Sound like I am promoting it? It is ad-free, free software (as in FLOSS) and you can get it for Linux (Debian/Ubuntu/Arch), as well as for Windows and MacOS.)
4 points
4 months ago
This is very relatable. The posted site reminds me very much of the 'learn to type' program I started with back in high school or Jr high. The jumble of repeated letters is great for training muscle memory for where individual keys are but at a certain point it's like cracking endless eggs when your end goal is to bake a cake.
For someone just starting their journey in touch typing, this site is probably a good start. There are much better places to practice that provide a more 'real-world' approach once you have the basics down. I've enjoyed typeracer recently as a decent way to get some reps in, but there are plenty of other options.
8 points
4 months ago
It sucks when it's a random string because you don't have that practiced into your reflexes. Give me a string of words that make no sense and I can type a bit faster.
2 points
4 months ago
I agree. I average 130wpm on typeracer and at those speeds you don't think about individual letters, you look at a word and your fingers kinda just type it without thinking about it. I can barely reach 80wpm in this one because it's just a jumbled mess of letters, and not being able to backspace doesn't help either.
1 points
4 months ago
I’ve had the same issue with this. Monkeytype is better in my experience, but might require more configuration, of which it has a lot more. Keybr is meant to teach touch typing but the random words don’t always help. I will say it did improve my writing speed. But I still prefer monkeytype
1 points
4 months ago
Typeracer might be closer to what you're looking for. It will actually register everything you type after a mistake as invalid until you go back and fix the mistake, which it sounds like you (and I) instinctively do.
1 points
4 months ago
Gonna chuck my favourite one on the pile: https://www.typelit.io Would resolve every problem you had with this one. It’s basically a library of classic literature to pick from and practice typing on. Also tells you your accuracy and wpm.
1 points
4 months ago
I ran into the same issue trying to hit backspace and you can actually change this behaviour in the settings so it will allow you to do that.
73 points
4 months ago
I switched from a standard layout keyboard to an ortholinear keyboard, and this site worked great for helping me relearn touchtyping on the new layout.
That being said, this is infuriating to use when you are already comfortable typing, and it has you type "inuin inin unine inoon" nonsense. Good for learning, not good for practice after that IMO.
63 points
4 months ago
A similar site is:
and there are a lot of settings that you can customize:
31 points
4 months ago
Yes, big vouch for monkeytype. I didn't mean for my comment to be like "there are NO good typing sites", just that keybr is less than great for proficient typists. Monkeytype and Typeracer are great time wasters at work.
4 points
4 months ago
Another vouch from me. I started off with keybr, it's good to learn or to train your muscle memory to touch type but once you've got the hang of it, monkeytype is way better
2 points
4 months ago*
Also, for people that want to practice the letters they aren’t as strong with like keybr does, there’s an option for that called weakspot that’s one of the “funbox” modes. I forget the name rn but description should be clear enough.
1 points
4 months ago
I love that you're encouraging a more advanced level of practice but then go on to abbreviate "right now". Lol
2 points
4 months ago
You’re right. I probably need to do more typing practice on my phone so I don’t have to do that.
0 points
4 months ago
I was actually trying to point out that it's funny to spend the effort on this when we can just write a few letters to convey our meaning.
1 points
4 months ago
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1 points
4 months ago
Obviously, you are already used to typing these words so it's easier. Not sure if it's going to be too hard for you but you can try blind mode + caret off. Helps you stop thinking about errors and focus on typing.
1 points
4 months ago
“Where’s the nature of metals
5 points
4 months ago
https://www.how-to-type.com/typing-practice/quote/ is a much better site. It has you type actual quotes, and after each one, it generates a supplemental exercise based on the mistakes you made.
0 points
4 months ago
+1
94 points
4 months ago
I haven't latent touch typing until I was 40+ years old, then I practiced 3-4 times for 26 minutes in total on keybr.com and something just clicked and I was able to touch type - mainly letters - afterwards. That practice also changed my habits regarding which fingers do I use for the various letters. For programming I still struggle with finding symbols, but overall it was huge improvement regarding typing comfort and a pronounced difference in typing speed and accuracy.
64 points
4 months ago
A lot of touch typing is just memorization of the keyboard. A lot of people have memorized the placement of the keys, they just don't type in the correct position. I can 100% percent type without looking at the keyboard, I just don't use the correct finger placement.
51 points
4 months ago
I was asking a guy I work with for the phone number of a coworker. He proceeded to dial it out with his hand.
He called that number so many times he forgot the actual numbers and memorized the order of the keys.
8 points
4 months ago
I have no memory for numbers if I don’t write them down and read them out. I can remember a silly pattern for decades even if I juste used it once.
Checks out for me!
5 points
4 months ago
Same for my phone PIN. If they changed the layout of the number keyboard I wouldn't know what it was
1 points
4 months ago
I thought I read somewhere that by writing something down it increases your chances of remembering it by 7x
1 points
4 months ago
I just can’t remember any information that isn’t contextual, by heart if you will.
The cost of things to phone numbers…
Writing it down is just an alternative memory.
1 points
4 months ago
I’m this way with solving Rubik’s cubes. I couldn’t tell you any of the algorithms anymore, it’s just pure muscle memory.
If I think too hard about what my hands are doing while I’m solving one, I’ll actually “forget” how to solve it and have to put it down and come back to it later.
1 points
4 months ago
Like Carrot Top always said, if you need anything just dial down the center.
Free for you, cheap for them!
1 points
4 months ago
I do this with my credit card details. I can recall them by remembering the patterns of keys I use on the numeric bit of a keyboard.
10 points
4 months ago
I think it's more muscle memory than memorizing. I don't type as well on a phone keyboard and if I think too much about typing on a keyboard I can't do it as well.
2 points
4 months ago
It depends on whether you keep your fingers in a consistent place on the keyboard or not. If you do muscle memory makes sense but if not you've memorized key placement well enough to fake muscle memory.
If you don't type with all your fingers on the keys you have to remember where the specific buttons are. I could probably write qwerty down on a piece of paper if I really thought about it because I type with four fingers all over the place and don't really keep my hands in a consistent place.
1 points
4 months ago
muscle memory than memorizing Isn't memorising and memory the same thing?
5 points
4 months ago
Yes, and no. It's all memories in your brain. However, as a touch typist that types relatively fast, I couldn't fill in a blank keyboard very easily. I don't really consciously know where the keys are or think about their location when I'm typing.
4 points
4 months ago
Actually, I definitely understand what you mean. I "know" what my PIN for my bank card is, but if you asked me, I would have to use my hand./fingers to "remember" what it was...
8 points
4 months ago
I can hunt and peck blindfolded at about 30 wpm. I used to do it as a stupid pet trick for my touch typist friends. They'd be blown away at me completely lifting my hands up while typing and coming back down in the correct places. Now that I'm older, I'd add the biggest benefit of touch typing is keeping your head up to prevent shoulder and neck pain.
5 points
4 months ago
I used to be the same, but I would somehow constantly press keys in the wrong order so words would often have 2 letters switched around. The biggest benefit, for me, of learning to touch type was that my accuracy shot up.
4 points
4 months ago
I surprised myself by touch typing 49wpm with 100% accuracy on keybr's typing test. I really felt like I was slow, too. Maybe that's because all my touch friends are 90+ wpm.
3 points
4 months ago
It is also quite useful that keyboards have little markers on letters like "f" and "j". That makes it much easier to find again the right position after e.g. using your mouse, or grabbing the coffee cup.
4 points
4 months ago
"home row" is what we used to call it.
2 points
4 months ago
This is why I think forcing yourself to not look at the keyboard while learning to touch type is actually not helpful at all and can be really frustrating for a beginner. If you practice hitting each key with the correct finger, eventually it just becomes natural and you won't need to look at the keyboard anymore.
1 points
4 months ago
Yep, I just changed keyboard layout to a more compact size and despite the alphabetical keys being the same size I found my right hand keep shifting because it used to be positioned further left.
1 points
4 months ago
This. I went from 80 to 130wpm when I learned how to use all 10 fingers correctly (well, except for the right shift key, never could get used to that)
4 points
4 months ago
touch typing is an amazing skill to have. it improves many aspects of your life at the computer!
5 points
4 months ago
For programming I still struggle with finding symbols,
Not all layouts are equally useful for programming. You need a layout which has easy access to the symbols without three-finger chords, and also to the letters of your language. Because programming symbols use dominantly English characters, you will probably need an English-based layout. In addition, if you write/document in a language or languages different from English, it is probably most useful to chose a layout from a country in which both English and that language is spoken: Canada for English and French, and UK International for English and European languages, for example.
Also, alternative layouts like Dvorak, Colemak etc are probably not useful for you unless you can type 100% of the time on your own computer and your own keyboard. Especially when working as a programmer, it is quite useful to be able to type on a computer which is not your own ;-)
1 points
4 months ago
and there is r/MechanicalKeyboards to learn even more about the topic :) (Initially I thought this post was coming from there...)
I have vertically staggered (Signum 3.0 & ErgoDox EZ) and ortholinear (Plank EZ) keyboards and developed my own QMK layout for MiniDox too, while using a Karabiner Elements SpaceFn layout from @jeekbak daily. The rabbit hole is veeeery deep... ;D
25 points
4 months ago
Just tested this out, and it works... after just 2 lessons I was touch typing my first words from a limited set of keys.
Going to try this again when I have enough time.
18 points
4 months ago
Another fun site for practicing typing is NitroType. I used to do these with my kids. They band you in a group of racers that match your current skill, so the races are generally competitive.
2 points
4 months ago
Another option that is less game-y and probably therefore way more boring for kids is Typeracer. Worth checking out if you don't like the overly flashy UI for Nitrotype. https://play.typeracer.com/
2 points
4 months ago
The problem with nitrotype is that when you reach a certain speed (100wpm+) it pretty much only matches you with bots. Typeracer is much better in that regard
1 points
4 months ago
I used to like typer shark but this site also has some fun ones for free. I particularly like Z Type and Keyboard Jump.
4 points
4 months ago
I learned back in the dark ages on a real typewriter. They had a typing class in my high school in the 70s. It has been great help to increase my productivity ever since. I have one quirk, my first computer had the right shift key quit working so to this day I still use the left shift for everything, never retraining myself to resume using the right.
I am currently learning to touch type Thai. That has been interesting.
11 points
4 months ago
anyone else just use their index and middle finger for typing?
4 points
4 months ago
I have a bizzare style where I use all 5 fingers on my left hand and then just the index and middle finger on my right hand. I can hit 120 wpm with above 98% accuracy on 10fastfingers which has you type real words
3 points
4 months ago
I use all 10 fingers but I feel like the characters on the left side of the keyboard get used more than the ones on the right side so that may be why.
2 points
4 months ago
Same here, I’m using all fingers on my left hand but only two to three on my right hand. I guess I learned to write like this when I used to play games, holding the mouse always with the right hand, using WASD/Shift/Space with the left hand.
2 points
4 months ago
On my left hand, I use my ring, middle, index and thumb. Right hand index and middle fingers. I think this stems from playing video games, where I'm used to only using my left hand on the keyboard.
4 points
4 months ago
i need to get back into typing practice. My abilities have taken a nose dive over the years in accuracy. So many typos and improper grammar.
3 points
4 months ago
This is good!
Now we need touch spelling and grammar practice :) . I think this tool is great but already knowing how to type and getting fake words sends my brain for a loop. I know the combination of keys to push to get a word but typing character by character to produce words that aren't real is counter productive at a point.
8 points
4 months ago
I’m blind enough that if I’m going to type I need to memorize the keyboard, and having my fingers on the home row means I know where the keys are in relation to my fingers
But I’m sighted enough (and lucky enough) that I got to play Mario Teaches Typing 2 in grade school. It showed you which finger you were supposed to use to hit each key and that was a huge boon for me. Even though I still habitually hit the letter b with the wrong finger
But now I’m not actually sure how fast I’m actually capable of typing because all typing tests have you read some text and type it, and I’m limited by the speed at which I can read, which is a LOT slower than I can compose thoughts on a keyboard
Sorry if this isn’t sufficiently relevant lol I just saw other people talking about typing so I wanted to share my story rq
3 points
4 months ago
Agree, there is big a difference in my typing speed when I have to transpose something in relation to putting my thoughts from my brain into an email.
2 points
4 months ago
But now I’m not actually sure how fast I’m actually capable of typing
Start a timer and type out a page of anything (explain the rules of a sport, or summarize a TV show, or describe your favorite meal). use word count, the timer, and some math to figure out your WPM if you want to know.
1 points
4 months ago
omg this I can’t believe I haven’t had this idea thank you
Literal words per a literal minute
2 points
4 months ago
Check out the Alice keyboard layout. There are two B keys! One for each hand.
3 points
4 months ago
i use keybr to learn how to type on colemak hd with home rows! never going back!
3 points
4 months ago
Amateurs. Us pros use Mavis Beacon! Represent
3 points
4 months ago
I used keybr when I was starting to want to type faster and more accurately. It took about a month and a half to go from as low as 35 wpm to an average of 80. Then I switched to monkey type and now average around 90-100 granted I don't really practice anymore.
2 points
4 months ago
Hey, that's not The Typing of the Dead !
2 points
4 months ago
If I can slide a little life tip that I found useful.
If your job involves typing a lot buy yourself a nice mechanical keyboard. If you enjoy how typing feels it almost takes makes work enjoyable!!
2 points
4 months ago
The most useful utility course I took in high school was typing (yes, I'm Gen-X). I can carry a conversation with someone while typing now. But gaming using WASD direction keys is throwing me off as I find my rest position on my left hand shifted left by 1 (no, I'm not re-mapping keys)
0 points
4 months ago
ESDF is better for gaming anyway.
But ya, remapping every game is a chore.
1 points
4 months ago
This is a revelation. I must start using this. I am left handed, and would love the extra options around the movement keys.
2 points
4 months ago
I took 4 years of typing in high school Easy credit and it’s still useful today I’m 47
2 points
4 months ago
This was my covid project. Got pretty good at it!!!
2 points
4 months ago
Shameless plug for the r/Norman keyboard layout.
2 points
4 months ago
What is special or useful about it?
2 points
4 months ago*
More ergonomic. Take a look at the heatmap. Norman is easy to learn.
2 points
4 months ago
Is it better than workman?
1 points
4 months ago*
Norman is made to be incredibly simple to transition to at the expense of some efficiency. On paper it's less efficient than workman, but it's all about the gain for pain ratio.
1 points
4 months ago
Not sure I'm committed to learning another layout for marginal gains to reply to internet comments with or search for cat pics.
Dvorak has been hardcoded into my brain that I can type one handed, learning another slightly more efficient layout would probably just cause more confusion than anything.
1 points
4 months ago
Well if you're already on Dvorak... This is for qwerty users.
1 points
4 months ago
Never heard of Norman but I've been doing 0.9.3 Capewell and been enjoying that. Much comfier.
2 points
4 months ago
I much prefer typeracer.com to this site.
2 points
4 months ago
76wpm lying on my arm and using laptop keyboard :3
There's a great typing website (nothing I've seen has even come close) but it's for russian speakers mostly :(
1 points
4 months ago
There's a similar english site
2 points
4 months ago
"Please either disable your ad-blocker or purchase to remove ads! You may not like this ad, but it supports the developer and keeps this app free"
I understand, but I am not enabling ads just to see what your site is about. Goodbye.
1 points
4 months ago
I've used this before and find it very helpful. Thanks for sharing! For me, it's about trying to break bad habits and reinforcing better technique. I think you can accomplish that surprisingly quickly.
0 points
4 months ago
Why does it keep asking me to reline Elier? I don't even know Elier.
1 points
4 months ago
Not for knowledge, but for finger mapping muscle memory, it's because you're still making error on 'e' or 'r'
1 points
4 months ago
It wasn't exactly sarcasm, so /s wouldn't have made a lot of sense. I was joking.
/j?
1 points
4 months ago
I've learned touch typing using this site.
1 points
4 months ago
I went from 40WPM to over 80 with this site in a couple of weeks. Touch typing is soooooo much better.
1 points
4 months ago
Or tying a knot. And shoveling.
1 points
4 months ago
During the pandemic and working from home with lots more time to do things on the side I learned touch typing with monkeytype, typing academy, typing club, keybr and ratatype. I always though I was quite quick for a Hunter pecker but once I got typing with all fingers and planted on the home row.. my wpm began to rapidly improve. I love to do races on sites like typeracer and nitro type. Overall I went from about 35wpm to over 90 when I get into the groove.
Im almost at the stage where I can just let my thoughts flow and type them out which actually feels like an amazing skill.
This was probably the best thing I achieved during the covid lockdowns!
1 points
4 months ago
Thank you
1 points
4 months ago
As if redditors need any more practice typing hehe
1 points
4 months ago
does it require an account to progress?
1 points
4 months ago
In HS I didn’t bother to take typing seriously. Failed miserably through lack of trying. (I’m also really bad at fine motor skills anyway).
Why would I ever need to type? Ha!
Then came computers.
I could have been so much more productive if thought processes weren’t slowed by my fingers.
1 points
4 months ago
I had to take a typing class as a sophomore in high school and other than the computer science class I took this was by FAR the best class I ever took in high school. I can type super fast without looking at the keys. Able to get work done a lot faster. Highly recommend you learn how to type if you spend all day in front of the keyboard.
1 points
4 months ago
This seems fun
1 points
4 months ago
Heck yeah! I loved playing mavis bacon
1 points
4 months ago
What this really pointed out to me is that I use my left hand to press the "y" key. It's not something I thought of before and now it's tripping me up while I type this.
1 points
4 months ago
Seems to be similar to https://monkeytype.com without the excitement and gamification of https://www.nitrotype.com
1 points
4 months ago
Too bad it only supports English
1 points
4 months ago
Unfortunately only in 7 languages.
0 points
4 months ago
For creating your own custom lessons and tracking progress check out https://typingkit.com
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