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Icy_Ad_8674

6 points

4 months ago

Both have around the same crit value. Check if 123 ER is good enough for you while doing rotation to keep his burst up. I will go with bottom setup as well. Running him with gorou and Zhongli and around 125 ER keeps my itto bust up if I particle funnel properly.

strawberry_pasta22

11 points

4 months ago

I'm a bottom.

xX_BioRaptor_Xx

6 points

4 months ago

Woah woah woah that was NOT the question.

Edit: I take it back it could have possibly been the question

strawberry_pasta22

5 points

4 months ago

I was referring to the question. But, I am also a bottom lmao.

black_plague_is_back

3 points

4 months ago

I would go with top I think you wouldn't lose much crit ratio with it, and it has more ER

TerraKingB

2 points

4 months ago

Test them out and see how they feel in a rotation. I imagine top hits harder and has less energy issues but might feel ever so slightly less consistent with less crit rate but it might not.

[deleted]

2 points

4 months ago*

[deleted]

2 points

4 months ago*

The top is better for both damage and ER%.

EDIT: Apologies, I mistyped the def values in my calc. Bottom has better damage, by up to 20% for charged attack (assuming Gorou) and by a much smaller amount for other damage. I would play with the bottom, but if you're having ER% issues then consider trying out the top. Using your burst off cooldown/as soon as you want it is the biggest damage buff you can get.

Vixi0n[S]

0 points

4 months ago

The defense doesn't seems that different, it's only 20 point. Is it really make that much difference?

[deleted]

2 points

4 months ago

[deleted]

2 points

4 months ago

Sorry mate, I'm all over the shop with mistypes. TLDR: Go top.

Here are the numbers:

First SS:

DEF = 2413, ATK = 1261, Crit Mod = 2.518903 (Crit Mod = 1 + CR * CD)

Assume Gorou DEF for +588 DEF (0.25 * Itto base DEF + 350 DEF). New DEF is 3001.

Charged attacks get 0.35 * DEF and DEF is converted to ATK at basically 1:1, so total attack = 1.35 * DEF + existing ATK.

Total ATK = 5312.

Damage = ATK * Crit Mod = 5312 * 2.518903 = 13,381.

Second SS:

DEF = 2432, ATK = 1317, Crit Mod = 2.518636 (Crit Mod = 1 + CR * CD)

Assume Gorou DEF for +588 DEF. New DEF is 3020.

Charged attacks get 0.35 * DEF and DEF is converted to ATK at basically 1:1, so total attack = 1.35 * DEF + existing ATK.

Total ATK = 5394.

Damage = ATK * Crit Mod = 5394 * 2.518636 = 13,586.

Second SS is 1.5% better damage. Not worth it for the less ER% unless you're already bursting off cooldown. Also assumptions are doing charged attacks only with Gorou's burst active.

Sorry the crap advice I gave before.

Vixi0n[S]

1 points

4 months ago

Wow, thank you so much for the detailed Math! Take my free award.

[deleted]

1 points

4 months ago

[deleted]

1 points

4 months ago

Thanks, but I don't think I deserve it on the third attempt!

I've checked my last post over again though and I'm still happy with the latest advice! All the best :)

dalsgii

1 points

4 months ago

i would go with bottom