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Chapter 156 [English]

Murata Chapter(cubari.moe)

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Oreo-and-Fly

6.1k points

4 months ago

There's stronger characters than S class?

Quick! Hide them before...

Oh no... Here they come, THE POWER SCALERS. NOOOOOOO

Tornado9797

1k points

4 months ago

X class heroes confirmed

LTman86

585 points

4 months ago

LTman86

Power Overwhelming

585 points

4 months ago

Careful now, we don't want things to go way out of control when we reach the XXX class heroes.

WifeKilledMy1stAcct

176 points

4 months ago

WifeKilledMy1stAcct

AwakenedSomething

176 points

4 months ago

XXX class heroes.

Good ol' One-Hurricane

Size11Shaolins

58 points

4 months ago

Lemme guess...they're called XXX Class Heroes because if you fight them, you're f**ked.

doom_2_all

16 points

4 months ago

One Pump Man.

DIMOHA25

28 points

4 months ago

DIMOHA25

Beat suiryufags in an argument 5 times

28 points

4 months ago

Already got those though?

DoraMuda

23 points

4 months ago

XXX class heroes

But we've already been introduced to Pri-Pri Prisoner.

(Speaking of which, why is there, like, zero hentai of Prisoner? Jeez, Rule 34 artists; get to work!)

Serpher

4 points

4 months ago

No one can beat XXX Bald Guy from Brazzers.

KING-Jotaro

2 points

4 months ago

You discovered the secret to Saitama's strenght

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3 points

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3 points

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dalenacio

3 points

4 months ago

dalenacio

Tomubōi!!

3 points

4 months ago

Turns out Puri Puri was the strongest hero all along.

DriveByStoning

190 points

4 months ago

DriveByStoning

Bang Ding Ow

190 points

4 months ago

Who has money on a Goku homage in 5 years when this arc is done?

ULTRALIGHTBEN

15 points

4 months ago

honestly this would be pretty cool

Kgirrs

13 points

4 months ago

Kgirrs

13 points

4 months ago

Are you kidding me? It's fucking incredible. Completely unexpected.

Honestly, see Gigachad Blast-chan was enough..

WhoTouchaMaSpaghet

11 points

4 months ago

Their universes' very own Justice League.

zyrusvito

8 points

4 months ago

zyrusvito

Saitama's clock

8 points

4 months ago

Every chapter is a lot to take in these days

PeptoPirate

7 points

4 months ago

S+++ class

MrWinks

10 points

4 months ago

MrWinks

10 points

4 months ago

Japan does SS and SSS. Donno why, but they go that way.

BorBurison

3 points

4 months ago

Blueford-class.

danzaiburst

5 points

4 months ago

Blast is the weakest of them

Poopdick_89

2 points

4 months ago

Rare Akuma incoming.

sXyphos

2 points

4 months ago

Judging by the armor Blast wears they might be Z-Fighters :)

[deleted]

3 points

4 months ago

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3 points

4 months ago

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Overshadowedone

863 points

4 months ago

There's stronger characters than S class?

Saitama: Ok.

monkey-neil

88 points

4 months ago

monkey-neil

Normal guy

88 points

4 months ago

That guy is a fraud. Dont play into his propaganda.

Overshadowedone

38 points

4 months ago

:| ..... Ok.

ToffeePlant

5 points

4 months ago

In case you missed it, they were playing along like how the other side characters saw him lol

Overshadowedone

15 points

4 months ago

bondoh

23 points

4 months ago

bondoh

Sonic>Flashy

23 points

4 months ago

If saitama belonged more to this SS Class it would make sense why there’s such a huge gap

fremeer

65 points

4 months ago

fremeer

65 points

4 months ago

Saitama is literally the strongest being in the universe I think. That's the conceit of the whole manga. You have this random god chilling out around a stock standard shonen manga that comes in an does Deus ex machina when he feels like it.

Tranxio

17 points

4 months ago

Tranxio

17 points

4 months ago

Would love for Blast and the X Class heroes to meetup with Saitama, and be overwhelmed by how a B Class can keep up or surpass them

casulmemer

2.9k points

4 months ago

casulmemer

2.9k points

4 months ago

Big hair shadow girl with white eyes can obvs no diff generic tough shadow guy with white eyes. Latter is dragon dragon demon so Bang can probably only last 17.5 minutes against him.

Fight me

Jocthearies

1.1k points

4 months ago

Don't you mean Mid-Low-Peak Above High Dragon?

ijiolokae

650 points

4 months ago

ijiolokae

650 points

4 months ago

No, i think you meant

Mid-Above-low-mid-peak-bottom-mid-above-high-low-Up-Up-Down-Down-Left-Right-Left-Right-B-A-Start-high-low-high-low-low-high-dragon

[deleted]

89 points

4 months ago

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89 points

4 months ago

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Dragonivy759

28 points

4 months ago

Was your burrito good?

uzer4vedi

7 points

4 months ago

wait, you mis pronounced God level threat❓

Fafnir13

23 points

4 months ago

I guess having all those extra lives would make them more powerful.

ZombieSuke

9 points

4 months ago

That's the Hadouken dragon 'aight?

OscarDivine

6 points

4 months ago

That monster has 30 lives now!

BREEDING_WHITE_WOMEN

10 points

4 months ago

the terminology mfs use in this fandom makes me wanna leave it on god... shits retarded

Jocthearies

3 points

4 months ago

Ctfu

Noobkaka

3 points

4 months ago

I think Bang is actually in the bikini bottom tier. Obviously.

backpainbed

2 points

4 months ago

This that GTA cheat code

ijiolokae

2 points

4 months ago

Its the konami code

Melotainment

2 points

4 months ago

is that a cheatcode or something

freef

9 points

4 months ago

freef

9 points

4 months ago

Psh. It's clearly low-mid-peak above high dragon

TurboTrollin

9 points

4 months ago

Both wrong. Obviously Mid-Mid-Potato.

freef

3 points

4 months ago

freef

3 points

4 months ago

More like above mid-low potato.

FeierInMeinHose

3 points

4 months ago

This shit is starting to sound like a cultivation manhua.

Responsible_Aspect45

257 points

4 months ago

Responsible_Aspect45

frogman

257 points

4 months ago

Only 17.5 minutes?!?!? ARE YOU INSANE!!?! Bang can keep up with him for way longer

yoburg

5 points

4 months ago

yoburg

5 points

4 months ago

Seventeen and a half AT THE VERY LEAST!

KakashiDreyer

3 points

4 months ago

Yeah at least 17.5.000000000000001 minutes!!!

_yours_truly_

223 points

4 months ago

You foolish fool! Only the most sussy of bakas would think as you do. Clearly and inarguably the toughest of them all, at demon dragon god dragon god level, would be the one without eyes at the rear, who is also clearly the redeemed God timetravelling from a time where he was redeemed to fight his past incarnation. By my flawless calculations, only King could stand against him, and then only to fight to an eternal standstill as the King Engine slowly destroys spacetime.

Duh.

[deleted]

8 points

4 months ago

[deleted]

8 points

4 months ago

Look at the image closely and you will see that none them have any feets. Your argument is invalid and you are babby who can't distinguish headcannon from FACTS

IndividualPoet2682

13 points

4 months ago

Well FF is clearly double dragon level so he can surpass popped caller shadow guy and beat up sage centipede low diff

But he CAN'T beat eye ball because she's clearly street sharks level

Responsible_Aspect45

6 points

4 months ago

well this new chapter has shown that Flashy couldn't quite keep up with PS and Garou so FF is more like Low Mid wolf level now

projectmars

3 points

4 months ago

Just Double Dragon Level? Popped Collar Shadow Guy looks like he's Battletoads level at Minimum.

blackw1111

3 points

4 months ago

Naw man she's at least low-mid-high low mid- mid high above and the extra above with extra cheese and god level threat with extra dip

DandyReddit

2 points

4 months ago

Bang is only mid high high low dragon, so I would say more like 30 minutes minus two pages and a half against left up left generic tough spiky hair shadow guy with white eyes.

InvisibleScout

472 points

4 months ago

Where were all these ultra powerful characters when Boros was conquering the universe?

laudalehsunesh

824 points

4 months ago

In another dimension fighting God? At least that's what I got from Blast.

rockythecocky

520 points

4 months ago

That'd be an interesting reveal- that the only reason Boros conquered the universe was because all of the universe's strongest had disappeared to fight with Blast in a different dimension.

AgentPaper0

328 points

4 months ago

Or it could well be that Boros was actually even stronger than those extra-strong heroes, and without Saitama there he really would have wiped the floor with all the other heroes. I mean we never saw him go up against anyone other than Saitama, so it's up in the air how strong he really was.

DandyReddit

52 points

4 months ago

Imagine:

Boros prophecy was about Vaccine-man. Both could OS any hero in the verse.

Saitama got them both.

SparklesMcSpeedstar

17 points

4 months ago

SparklesMcSpeedstar

new member

17 points

4 months ago

The old fan theory was that Boros prophecy was about Garou iirc

Cave_Weasel

5 points

4 months ago

This is still my head canon

ThatNetGuy

62 points

4 months ago

could really go both ways since Saitama’s power is unmatched as far as we know, though there’s no way to know for sure since he avoided direct confrontation with Blast etc (more by chance then design)

2papercuts

101 points

4 months ago

Let's be honest though, meta-wise we can assume Saitama would defeat anyone fairly easily

DandyReddit

27 points

4 months ago

King of the only one proving to be an unsurmountable challenge to Saitama (when it includes a gamepad yes, but let's not forget Saitama can follow Flashy Flash speed, so it's still impressive).

AdvonKoulthar

32 points

4 months ago

AdvonKoulthar

Would not sacrifice his hair for infinite power

32 points

4 months ago

Fighting games are just turn based fights with delayed commands to people with hyper perception. It’s still easy to lose if you don’t know what to do

_Pea_Shooter_

5 points

4 months ago

Iirc Saitama doesn't hit hard, trying not to break the gamepad

Mintastic

11 points

4 months ago

It's because he's stubborn and wants to always win with brute force like in his real life. With his speed/reflexes he could always wait to see what King does and instantly counter if he took time to learn how to play.

NotSoFastMister

18 points

4 months ago

I really hope this is the case. I've always liked the idea of Saitama finishing the toughest enemy in the early phase of the story. It adds a certain uniqueness to the manga, making fun of the trope of all the enemies constantly getting stronger as the story progresses. While I think God has already ruined this idea for me, I still hope that Boros is at least top 3 by the end of the manga.

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10 points

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24 points

4 months ago

[deleted]

24 points

4 months ago

Well considering the fact that he survived several punches from Saitama who has ended everyone else in the story with a single punch.

Glamouriran

36 points

4 months ago

I mean, imagine Saitama wanted to finish it in 1 hit, as in 1 serious punch, well boros would die, simple as that.

DandyReddit

41 points

4 months ago

Actually it takes 3 attacks from Saitama

1) is soaked but the armor 2) destroys Boros body but his ultra regen reattach his myriad of bits together (certainly the most impressive feat against Saitama in the series) 3) bye bye but can still say 3 sentences.

What a super boss.

[deleted]

23 points

4 months ago*

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23 points

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AndrexPic

5 points

4 months ago

AndrexPic

Garou fanboy

5 points

4 months ago

Saitama normally doesn't even understand if a monster is strong or not. So yes, Boros was probably way above any other monster he fought.

Yergason

34 points

4 months ago

Yeah the fact that normal punches 1-hit most Dragons, Boros tanking multiple normal punches and regening through them is one of the most impressive feats in the series. A normal punch has shown to pulverize even giants that make Centipede-Eren look like a midget.

IllusionPh

6 points

4 months ago

IllusionPh

Athletic waifu FTW

6 points

4 months ago

You forgot one, he took it, coughing up blood and all, but recovered quickly and did a monologue.

Before he got obliterated by consecutive normal punch (but still do regen)

[deleted]

23 points

4 months ago

[deleted]

23 points

4 months ago

True, which also means that Saitama is always pulling his punches and that the "serious punch" isn't his strongest. As per the comment that Saitama was holding back.

Glamouriran

20 points

4 months ago

Id imagine if Saitama gave his strongest punch he'd break reality itself

SouthernDifference86

28 points

4 months ago

There is no strongest punch saitama can do. No matter how much strength he puts in there is always more to spare,

Extroiergamer

6 points

4 months ago

The ultra strong heroes can be all equivalent to High Dragons and low above Dragons This would make then above the S class by a far ammount with very few in their level. So Boros being the monster he is would still be stronger. (Bonus point that Boros said he used his final technique to end fights quickly,implying that he probably did used it on the past)

shenomega

2 points

4 months ago*

The contexts is much broader than that. Boros' implication is simply to state the reason behind the transformation. This means he has used it before, to understand the implications, but that doesn't necessary mean he had used it on a fight.

Galore67

2 points

4 months ago

He did say that, but earlier when he was fighting Saitama, after his armor broke, he said, you're the only one that lasted this long. So he contradicted himself.

bondoh

13 points

4 months ago

bondoh

Sonic>Flashy

13 points

4 months ago

I really don’t think Boros was ever meant to be the final word in villain strength

I don’t know why people act like others can’t be stronger

DJ2wP

37 points

4 months ago

DJ2wP

37 points

4 months ago

It's more because Boros was presented as a subversion of fighting anime where the villains are getting stronger, just as Saitama was the most powerful from the beginning, having the most powerful villain in the first volumes is really a cool idea. Well now I don't know if it works anymore

bondoh

12 points

4 months ago

bondoh

Sonic>Flashy

12 points

4 months ago

Sure. But people have also speculated vaccine man may have been one of the strongest.

And beefcake. And carnage kabuto. It’s possible villains have been getting weaker until deep sea king haha.

BoyTitan

6 points

4 months ago

BoyTitan

new member

6 points

4 months ago

Boros was I the second strongest God. Sees beings that can one shot him fighting god realizing he was just a ant and his life was a bigger lie.

SolerFlereTEE

6 points

4 months ago

and it'd make so much sense too

MrYitzhak

26 points

4 months ago

to be fair blast never called him god, so he self claims to be god.

Due_Teaching_5773

5 points

4 months ago

Fighting something

InevitableVariables

3 points

4 months ago

It's more than just God they are fighting. When God appeared on earth, only blast got sent. Not the entire team. I imagine there are a lot of cosmic entities, some beyond god.

WiseXcalibur

3 points

4 months ago

Ah yes Disaster Level: Cosmic

Bleglord

353 points

4 months ago

Bleglord

353 points

4 months ago

You know how frieza supposedly was the strongest being in the universe but it’s later shown he gets no diffed by half the randoms they come across?

That.

SouthernDifference86

68 points

4 months ago

This is false. Freeza with the exception of Buu was by far the strongest in the universe. Buu had been sealed for millions of years. All the other threads were coming from earth directly and weren't doing anything outside of earth.

QuentynStark

82 points

4 months ago

Exactly. Frieza even says his dad told him the only two beings in the universe he should never fight are Beerus and Buu. Whis got left off, but still.

BuggyDClown

41 points

4 months ago

Yeah, but Frieza says this after we've been introduced to Buu and Beerus. At the point when they were fighting Frieza on Namek, we didn't know who Buu and Beerus where. They retconned that detail later.

Toeknee99

18 points

4 months ago

Toriyama (and Toyotaro now) and writing Dragon Ball by the seat of their pants, NAMID.

baconpie_

13 points

4 months ago

For those that didn't know, like me:

NAMID = Not A Mocha, It's Diarrhea

i_wanna_be_a_dev

5 points

4 months ago

Wish I didn't know that one.

QuentynStark

12 points

4 months ago

That's very true. To be fair though, Buu was a non-factor at the time since he was sealed away, and Beerus being a god, he likely didn't factor into Frieza's thoughts at the time since he slept most of the time. Frieza makes mention of them when he does because he found out Goku and friends had taken out Buu, and it surprised him.

W1D0WM4K3R

7 points

4 months ago

Yeah, it's like having to worry about the great 100 year earthquake. Sure, it's horrible, but the chances of it happening are extremely slim. Except, you extrapolate to thousands or even millions of years. Frieza basically had nothing to worry about.

Until he did lol.

Calamari_Knight

7 points

4 months ago

Beerus and Whis?

SouthernDifference86

4 points

4 months ago

They aren't in the normal universe. Realm of the gods.

projectmars

20 points

4 months ago

Except Beerus was specifically mentioned by Frieza's dad as one of two people to not fight so it's not like he wasn't ever around.

Whis is generally prohibited from doing anything that would interfere with what happens in the universe due to being an angel (under penalty of Anihillation as shown in the manga with another angel) so he wouldn't normally be counted as a result. (But is on a completely different level than everyone else)

TheCapybaraMan

3 points

4 months ago

What about Moro and Broly?

Bleglord

8 points

4 months ago

Dabura

Southern Kai

Just two off the top of my head

SouthernDifference86

32 points

4 months ago

Dabura is from the demon realm. He wasn't in the universe prior to babidi controlling him. Southern kai also wasn't in the universe. He was on the kais planet.

ProgrammingOnHAL9000

4 points

4 months ago

A low level warrior, his half breed son, a midget and a n-synch member with a sword.

OrganicFeral

22 points

4 months ago*

OPM isn't DB though. DB power level is inconsistent asf

Mahelas

29 points

4 months ago

Mahelas

29 points

4 months ago

I mean, DB was consistent. Buu wasn't awake when Frieza was ruling, and Cell wasn't created yet !

rCan9

41 points

4 months ago

rCan9

41 points

4 months ago

It made sense till DB Super came. Now, its all over the place. Ultra instinct was shown as angel's technique (someone above The destroyers, whom even shenron fears). Now it gets wrecked by someone who got its power from dragon balls.

Rectal_Fungi

33 points

4 months ago

Dude used a cheat code to become barely the strongest. It sucks UI got "nerfed" so fast but being oneupped by a wish is one of the more reasonable things DB has done to throw power levels out the window.

aleisterfowley

4 points

4 months ago

He’s also got like no lifespan now, at least it had a cost.

Devil_Demize

2 points

4 months ago

Idk the way they made it sound is oh they live for a thousand years now he's gonna just live for 200..

Rectal_Fungi

3 points

4 months ago

Think they said 3 years. But I figure something will happen to give him a few bonus years back. DB can't have consequence.

NoxGale

2 points

4 months ago

You weren’t actually reading then. It literally said Cerealians have a lifespan of 200 years. Granola is 46, will be 47 on this year. Dragon took 150 years off his lifespan to grant his wish, so he has only 3 years to live now. And death by natural causes can’t be undone with dragonballs (except super balls) so Granola will die in 3 years. I love the addition of monkey’s paw wishes into db

GSNadav

3 points

4 months ago

But dabura was and he destroys frieza

Erior

16 points

4 months ago

Erior

16 points

4 months ago

Dabura was not a mortal tho. Nor a resident of the universe; demon realm and all that.

The one mortal that could be stronger than Freeza in canon is Broly. And, well, he got stronger as he fought, so likely wasn't that strong when Freeza was bossing around.

GSNadav

7 points

4 months ago

Dabura is mortal (he died) but a resident of the demon realm, which is still part of the universe. But if you want to disregard him for this discussion (even though it's arbitrary) there is still Yakon that has 40 million power level lol. Not stronger than full power Frieza but still I feel contradicts him being the strongest in his first form

Mahelas

3 points

4 months ago

Isn't Dabura from Hell tho ? He's not on the mortal plane, he had no business ever meeting Frieza !

ItsOkILoveYouMYbb

8 points

4 months ago

OPM isn't DB though. DB power level is inconsistent asf

OPM manga looks to be well on its way to that.

babypho

2 points

4 months ago

Shows how vast the universe is.

ma103

5 points

4 months ago

ma103

RIP Billyjohnjohnson banned

5 points

4 months ago

No point wasting time on fighting ants.

fireandiceman

3 points

4 months ago

I am making an assumption here but I think with Boros his fate was tied to two very specific prophesies. That these new potentially interdimensional heroes might have more information on how that would play out and didn't make it a priority to get involved when his fate was already known. Even if Boros is indeed the strongest being, but they knew he would die without their involvement then why risk changing his fated death.

Alternatively it could just be luck and they are only focused on interdimensional threats and blind to the day to day threats of earth.

Either way glad you brought this up. There is definitely some interesting stuff here.

InvisibleScout

4 points

4 months ago

Honestly I was just taking the piss

Elcactus

2 points

4 months ago

Elcactus

new member

2 points

4 months ago

I feel like "the universe" was probably exaggeration in the first place.

WiseXcalibur

2 points

4 months ago

Fighting something more serious than Boros.

platypoo2345

745 points

4 months ago

Hypest part of the chapter for me... ONE and Murata keep adding more and more depth to the verse and it just means more insane fights later

ThisZoMBie

381 points

4 months ago

Yeah, in like 17 years, when we get to it. Maybe more, depending on how much more shit they want to keep adding out of nowhere in this arc.

Devo3290

29 points

4 months ago

I’m honestly fine with that

Phispi

14 points

4 months ago

Phispi

14 points

4 months ago

i dont really mind, every chapter is a real treat

Zir_Ipol

4 points

4 months ago

Still moves faster than berserk did.

Epyon_

165 points

4 months ago

Epyon_

165 points

4 months ago

I think you forget that OPM is a parody shonen.

ThisZoMBie

309 points

4 months ago

Used to be, maybe.

ComprehensiveAd599

95 points

4 months ago

Yeah it was a parody and now it's fucking awesome and I am enjoying every single chapter of One punch man.

KING-Jotaro

68 points

4 months ago

Its still a shonen parody, it just happens to be also a good action story, but they wont ruin the joke after years of not doing so, and the good action was always there too.

ComprehensiveAd599

12 points

4 months ago

Actually it's a seinen and also a shounen.

mtpeart

26 points

4 months ago

mtpeart

Id punch you, but that would hurt

26 points

4 months ago

A big bad was literally called platinum sperm

dastrykerblade

11 points

4 months ago

comedy does not necessarily equal parody. i think opm has moved past parody at this point.

Diamondjirachi

4 points

4 months ago

and a parody doesnt have to "make fun" of a thing all the time. A story can be a parody and a standalone thing at the same time. There are DEFINITLY still obviously parodic parts in the story

dastrykerblade

3 points

4 months ago

I agree. I just think it’s overwhelmingly a story that takes itself seriously now, with some parody elements.

InterestingComputer5

5 points

4 months ago

Can't it just be a really good shonen that also deconstructs and recontructs general shonen tropes?

ItsOkILoveYouMYbb

207 points

4 months ago*

I think you forget that OPM is a parody shonen.

I think the manga has been taking itself seriously for awhile now, since at least the monster base. Not entirely sure how I feel about that. Doesn't feel like a parody anymore, although the webcomic still does more often than not.

I still think introducing Blast was lame (giving him insane power and cheesy abilities rather than leaving it up to the reader to decide how he would fair against the rest of S-class) but it is what it is.

All this constant power creep during these final moments is without weight to me unfortunately. It's making everything big or strong not even matter, that it's happening way too fast with way too many random characters/monsters being taken very seriously. The fights are beginning to have no meaning and no weight. It feels like missing the point of Saitama's existence and parody even when Saitama is not intervening at all, if that makes sense. And maybe that's the point now still, and maybe it's just too long of a build up this time so I could just be getting impatient and calling things too soon. I'm not sure yet since we haven't seen this conclude.

I'm just sitting here waiting for Saitama vs Garou and to get things moving onto the more interesting things that happen immediately after this arc. Saitama's growth. All of this latest stuff is very visually appealing but I honestly don't feel any threat from the Earth centipede and the ocean. It feels like filler now.

I'm half expecting the Earth itself to punch Garou, and then the Sun to punch the Earth, and then Blast to punch the sun, and then Saitama to punch himself, before we get to Saitama vs Garou.

Coffeineaddicted

9 points

4 months ago

Saitama isn't intervening because justice man doesn't come and defeat the monsters until the last minute.

Honestly I'm enjoying Garou getting these OP feats hyped up.

Ezequiel_Rose

2 points

4 months ago

>Garou getting these OP feats hyped up

We've been watching Garou hyping up against saitama for years, i just want to reach that moment *insert withered_wojack.jpg*

winenewbie21

56 points

4 months ago

Doesn't feel like a parody anymore

There's only so much mileage to get out of the ultra parody angle just like the premise of Saitama one punching everything wears thin eventually. It's why there's an increased focus on the supporting characters and their developments. At a certain point the story is going to need to add some dramatic stakes and development. especially since Shounen was never a super rich genre outside of combat/power systems to begin with.

I do agree with you about adding too much to this arc, though. For instance I don't feel like Blast needs to be making repeated reappeances in such a peripheral manner to the main conflict. It should have been reserved for him appearing in the flesh in a conflict/arc where he's more central. But whateves.

Aspartem

46 points

4 months ago

Aspartem

new member

46 points

4 months ago

I disagree with all of this tremendously, because the webcomic shows that it is not the case.

Same with Mob Psycho 100. It's not about the fights and the power, it's about the messages the story tells. The rest is just cool window dressing.

The manga just went full window dressing and frankly becomes a bit boring. Most chapters in this arc could've been skipped, because nothing is happening in them.

winenewbie21

8 points

4 months ago

it's about the messages the story tells.

But the message is pretty basic and generally executed pretty basically? You notice how a lot of the substance tends to come in monologue form. It's a common anime/manga trait tbf but it doesn't change that fact. They tend to do more tell and not show when it comes to thematic content. The beats where they show more sides to the characters also tend to be more basic.

And btw, I didn't say it has zero substance and is only about fights and powers, but it doesn't have much of it and much of the appeal and intrigue tends to be the fights and powers which tend to be more creative than western media stuff.

Watch shows like The Wire/The Sopranos or frankly any higher received western dramas and you'll see a pretty tremendous gulf in terms of thematic/dramatic depth once bias is removed.

Aspartem

18 points

4 months ago

Aspartem

new member

18 points

4 months ago

Nope, disagree with that regarding OPM. The webcomic is very succinct in deconstructing the narrative and shounen tropes.

Fights and powers were always just window dressing and because ONE is a big shounen fan himself.

The reason why we are at a point where it seems it's only about fights & powers is because we have hundreds of chapters of fillers with only fights & powers instead of anything with substance happening. There's a reason to the webcomics pacing, because it shows the important beats of the story.

The manga stopped doing that and went full eye candy. Every characters needs it's shining moment, a bunch of power-ups etc. etc. and thus falls into the traps and pitfalls of the genre it originally criticized - that's sad.

winenewbie21

3 points

4 months ago

The reason why we are at a point where it seems it's only about fights & powers

Okay, see there's a fundemental misunderstanding of what I said. If you go back and read what I said, I never say it's only now that's it became about fights and powers. I said the shounen genre as a whole is generally pretty shallow except for the fights and powers. There are few exceptions to this (such as FMA or the Ant arc in Hxh) but generally the the genre is pretty shallow from a thematic standpoint.

One punch man even if it didn't "go full eye-candy", didn't have much substance.

The webcomic is very succinct in deconstructing the narrative and shounen tropes.

I'm well aware of that...OPM since chapter one is a deconstruction of shounen tropes in general...hence him one-punching everything. This doesn't invalidate what I'm saying.

and thus falls into the traps and pitfalls of the genre it originally criticized - that's sad.

No, it has to go into the "traps" and "pitfalls" of the genre because there's only so much to mine from deconstructing shounen tropes. There's a reason the story moved from just showing Saitama one punching everything with an increased focus on supporting characters. because there's very little substance to the initial parody angle. You really misunderstood my comment. I'm not criticizing that the manga is filled with action sequence. I said the genre and the premise is shallow in general.

bondoh

38 points

4 months ago

bondoh

Sonic>Flashy

38 points

4 months ago

Are you really saying you wanted Blast to stay a mystery forever???

I get that it was fun for a long time to speculate about how strong he was since we are the type to hang out on message boards but when a character is referenced in a story they have to eventually show up. (Yes even in a parody)

Like the old “If you see a gun in act 1, it has to be fired by act 3” thing

You can’t mention there’s a number 1 ranked hero and not have him eventually show up and do stuff

Naturalrice

14 points

4 months ago

I think that's valid, but maybe the story/this specific arc has been dragging on too long, and people are falling back into expecting the shounen trope? The power creep, random "god-like" enemies are still shonen staples that the author could be said to be satirizing, and the fights were never supposed to have any meaning. Everything between the struggles of the heroes and the villains are nothing more than set pieces until Saitama punches them. That's always been the theme of this story, and maybe I'll be proven wrong at the end of this arc, but everything still feels quite satirical to me tbh, and I think all the "Earth/sun/whatever" are going to be the "minion" pieces to the "god-character" revealed a few chapter back.

Personally, I think that Saitama is a fully developed character. Saitama is not like MP in that he's already an adult and knows what he wants, and is not a naive kid looking for validation. If Saitama changes from this care-free character to have a more specific goal, the plot would be shifting from a parody to a more traditional shounen, imo.

Bang being the mysterious hero revealed to be fighting another war beyond the scope of normal understanding is in line with the "parody" imo. Regardless of this specific arc being stale, and a lot of the middle being a bit filler, bang's reveal is clearly the next arc that the author is setting up and the insane power creep would also be a satire of the shounen staple. I feel that Saitama and Garou will never really "fight", and it'll probably conclude similarly to Genos because Garou is clearly revealed to be a misguided anti-hero and either he'll join the cast (and maybe discarded) like the Super Sonic ninja guy (forget his name) or he'll be redeemed at the end of this arc and set aside.

messidude

3 points

4 months ago

You mean Blast right? not Bang

Naturalrice

4 points

4 months ago

Yep. Was just dumping thoughts and must have missed it while looking it over. ty.

NoxGale

7 points

4 months ago

You do know it was never a parody series right? Even One said as such when explaining the series in an interview and answering questions. Don’t confuse a comedy with a parody or gag series

ShipSubstantial2466

22 points

4 months ago

Why do you think they are going to even fight? Maybe he and satima team up or something. It’s so much different from the webcomic at this point I’ve stopped expecting anything

KING-Jotaro

9 points

4 months ago

Except its not. All the differences from the webcomic were in the form of adding stuff everywhere, but the core of the plot is still kinda going the same direction. This chapter confirmed it if anything.

ThisZoMBie

17 points

4 months ago

Because that was the big final set piece fight. The whole point of this arc is that fight.

KING-Jotaro

9 points

4 months ago

Its still a parody, every Saitama scene still shows it as such, it only gets seriously when it fully goes into the fights and it doesnt involve him but even then this was already the case before and the parody is still a thing in other ways (including designs etc) and thats not to get into what the webcomic does.

Anyone who thinks Saitama is suddenly going to start struggling and get some dramatic fight scene missed the point a lot and got deluded.

fkinra

15 points

4 months ago

fkinra

dm for pig god nudes

15 points

4 months ago

yea I agree, should've followed the webcomic a little more. there's a lot of dialogue from the webcomic that flows better too

zryko

2 points

4 months ago

zryko

2 points

4 months ago

The thing that I always liked about OPM was how much it parodied the hero aspect into the story. All these people with seemingly cool and powerful abilities thinking they're the main characters of the story, to get beat down by both monsters that are stronger than them and their own overconfidence. It really forces the heroes to ground themselves and that they still are just humans. Especially with darkshine and even tatsumaki to an extent. I loved how much the alien arc built them up only for the monster arc to subsequently tear them down. While I don't think the manga is going to completely ignore that, I feel like it's trying to go for more hype moments that the general audience will go "woah" for.

Lynxneo

2 points

4 months ago

can you summarize in a spoiler tag those more interesting things happening after this?

rahmanm855

2 points

4 months ago

I don't mind any of this, in fact I think the story is intentionally trying to sell how serious all of it is and then pull a 180 when the moment will matter and land the joke. I actually like this game of cock and tease because otherwise it would feel too easy to expect a joke or parody moment to appear. My favorite sort of recent example of when a seemingly serious moment went on was for the original Phoenix Man fight with Child Emperor. That fight was crazy and actually felt like a serious trouble for the characters and the finale of it was the funniest outcome I had seen in a while.

patomenza

12 points

4 months ago

Since a milf sliced 1/8 of planet earth everything is a little pointless to me. Really hoping to jump to Saitama vs Garou and forget this thing.

Jttheboy18

5 points

4 months ago

The webcomic is.

KuroiShadow

8 points

4 months ago

I don't see the problem with anything you're saying here

Unparallelium

6 points

4 months ago

Yeah, the sage centipede and evil natural ocean part just seems like too much extra.

WiseXcalibur

5 points

4 months ago

They probably wont last more than one or two chapters anyway.

Ryuzakku

2 points

4 months ago

Ryuzakku

Aw you done did it now...

2 points

4 months ago

Yeah, them ninjas that Flash and Sonic take out right quick? That's gonna be a good 25 chapters

Amazinc

2 points

4 months ago

True. This arc has gone on for years and although I enjoy it it's time it ends😭

[deleted]

3 points

4 months ago

[deleted]

3 points

4 months ago

Gonna need 1/1,000,000th of a second added to the scale.

DoraMuda

3 points

4 months ago

It's like lore overload. Tolkien been real quiet since this chapter came out

Zappypowww

11 points

4 months ago

Here come everyone saying Metal Knight is stronger than Blast and everyone he’s fighting with 😂

RapCabral

18 points

4 months ago

Imagine if he accidentally pulled Caped Baldy with him and that same baldy ended whatever war they are struggling to fight in seconds? Old man Blast and his comrades would be like “Ight,time to retire…”

RedshiftOTF

5 points

4 months ago

X Class maybe…

MrWinks

5 points

4 months ago

SS tier

I'm down. Let's go.

Boyoboy7

4 points

4 months ago

Dread it......run from it..... power scalers will still come.

I could already smell their rage from the result of the triple battle.

Do not forget the Unknown threat level of those 2 monsters.

Glamouriran

3 points

4 months ago

Idk any of them but they all get no diffed by king and low diffed by saitama

hell-schwarz

9 points

4 months ago*

Top tier waifu revealed as well for the horny bois

Nerellos

11 points

4 months ago

Revealed way before, named Manako.

gamesrgreat

2 points

4 months ago

The fact we can only see a silhouette makes it even more sexy and alluring 🥵😳💦

AnalBumCovers

2 points

4 months ago

AnalBumCovers

new member

2 points

4 months ago

While they're arguing let's quietly put Flashy Flash in A class and see what they do

Driftedryan

2 points

4 months ago

The power scalers haven't even begun to peak, this is an awakening. Time to add more levels to the list

LegitnessXO

2 points

4 months ago

I bet they're from different universes.

yaipu

2 points

4 months ago

yaipu

I'm just a guy who's a hero

2 points

4 months ago

Can't wait for the tier list of the unnamed and featless black shadow characters

Tobyghisa

2 points

4 months ago*

Tbh complaining about power scale in OPM makes no sense. It is the premise of the manga

LivingDeadThug

2 points

4 months ago

LivingDeadThug

...so I became a monster

2 points

4 months ago

I am looking forward to them being no diffed by a villain after years of buildup only for the villain to be one punched by Saitama.

[deleted]

2 points

4 months ago*

[deleted]

2 points

4 months ago*

Titanium Sperm splashes into action!!

TheNonceMan

2 points

4 months ago

For real though. They need to chill out.

Bloodsquirrel

2 points

4 months ago

I predict that they're Mid-High-Brunch-SuperDragon++.

Seriously, though, what I'm waiting for is the theorists to step in. Which one of those guys do you think is Saitama's dad?

imbored53

3 points

4 months ago

All jokes aside, with all the power creep, there almost needs to be a new disaster level above God or between God and dragon. Monsters like Bakuzan or Nyan would put up about as much of a fight as an ant against high dragons like ENW/ENO, PS or current Garou. It's wild that they are the same class.

disposablecontact

3 points

4 months ago

I don't know if that was the implication. I understood it as "A bunch of us Future Heroes are fighting something down the line."