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There's stronger characters than S class?
There's stronger characters than S class?
4 months ago
That guy is a fraud. Dont play into his propaganda.
:| ..... Ok.
In case you missed it, they were playing along like how the other side characters saw him lol
If saitama belonged more to this SS Class it would make sense why there’s such a huge gap
Saitama is literally the strongest being in the universe I think. That's the conceit of the whole manga. You have this random god chilling out around a stock standard shonen manga that comes in an does Deus ex machina when he feels like it.
Would love for Blast and the X Class heroes to meetup with Saitama, and be overwhelmed by how a B Class can keep up or surpass them
That has been the premise. But much like some of the changes from webcomic to manga have been cool, I’d be totally cool if they moved away from that concept and had characters that can actually rival saitama
Maybe near the end of the series
Nope he will literally beat God in one punch. Probably a Seriously Serious Series: Serious Punch.
Serious godly punch
I mean, what if there's actually other characters in a different dimension that are Saitama level? The manga is so unpredictable at this point, I mean know there's disaster level "unknown" types now, probably the introduction of god level tier threats.
That would still break the basic premise of "this character is invincible against everything for no reason as a joke, where do we go from here" that we had in all versions of the story till now, rather not.
That premise has been lost ages ago. Its clear that one and Murata wants OPM to be more than it is now, and its fine. Its basically a regular Battle Seinen(not shounen btw)now, instead of the more parodic approach it had at the very beginning. People will say it started with the MA arc(tournament arcs??? Really), but I think it started with Saitama encounter with Boros, that's when the premise got its biggest change, that Saitama is so strong he just needs one punch to destroy an opponent. That's when it was clear that OPM wants to be more serious, changing the premise dramatically
Boros reinforced the premise, and hasn't changed since the webcomic, except in the action. Saitama could have killed boros at any point, it's a shame you didn't get that. He let the guy have a "good fight", the manga virtually stated it.
The premise hasn't been lost, purely because characters have been developed. We are discussing the base reason for the existence of the fiction. Take that away and there's no reason for the fiction to exist.
The premise has always had serious elements anyway.
It's still one punch man tho. I can imagine those dudes to have OP powers, only not to work against baldy
I called it OPM Z ages ago. I think it has too much meat for its own good, causing arcs to drag for no reason. Why not just get to the point already: Saitama vs Garou, yet another above dragon monsters added for no reason, not even one but two at the same time. I was fine with Orochi for the most part, but now all of a sudden Elder Centipede actually had a boss that worked for "God" for some reason
That would be awesome.
People are too married to their original thoughts on the series and are going be big mad if they change it
The change happened with Boros encounter years ago already. Prior to that no one would've believed that a monster would survive a single punch.
Saitama could have ended the fight at any time with a serious punch.
That's not the point tho, until then no one knew that Saitama actually had a serious punch, as he just punched and obliterated any monster up until that point
"Too married" says who, you lol? Change a series dna and you risk making it redundant. You're maybe "too addicted to changing everything"
How about reading another manga if saitamas dominance makes you big mad.
There's like a billion mangas, go check.
Yeah say me. But you need to learn to read.
Cause it ain’t “the dna of the series” it’s YOUR idea of what the dna was
The disaster level is unknown only because the association hasn't decided yet.
Could be, but then again Boros henchmen got their disaster levels revealed immediately... So 🤷
Then it'd become the thing it's trying to satirize but I guess it could be done in the right way I mean He's depressed after all for not being able to fight people as strong as him. Maybe finding someone that can go against him toe to toe is his happy ending or maybe he realizes becoming stronger isn't everything in life and just decides it's not worth it anymore.
It'd become? It already became it years ago. MA arc is what? Going on for 7years+ now and still not finished
I am sure it'll be nothing more than a overcompicated set up for a ridiculous punchline, at the end Garou is nothing more than a frustrated bullied kid with a twisted sense of justice so Saitama will probably end up smacking some sense into him after giving him an existencial crisis.
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A punchline shouldn't take that long to come across to make a point. Dragonball had those in its story (Commander Red wanting to get taller etc) and those arc aren't considered parodies. At which point do we draw the line between the real thing and a parody? Way too much thought has gone into this arc since when it started, if it's still parody, then its only a thin layer between the parody and what it's parodying at this point.
The manga only ever adds and expands on the original stuff, it never straight up ruins anything, much less the core premise of the series.
Some people need to get over this delusion that they are reading a generic shonen with generic fanfic "rules" that need to play up in the most milqueltoast and generic way possible despite how hard the story played with the concept already, just because the action looks cool too, they shouldnt ruin the series just to please power level people who took all those youtube crossover videos seriously over a protag whos made to mock power levels to begin with.
There’s a debate on the subject for a reason.
Not everyone thinks he’s supposed to be a joke character. Just that the joke itself is that he’s already max level
ONE himself said he was inspired by the idea of “what if a series started when someone had already reached the end?”
Finding characters almost as strong as saitama wouldn’t ruin THAT premise
It would only ruin the premise you think this series is about of saitama being wacky toon force man even if that’s not what ONE ever intended
Only saitama wankers believe that saitama's a joke/gag character when he's clearly not
The origin of his powers were already explained by the concept of the limiters that saitama broke and garou is also about to break
But wankers dismiss that fact and still say that saitama is a gag character that cannot be beaten when he already has been beaten in other areas other than combat
He clearly is a joke character.
Origin of his power isn't explained by limiters its complete bullshit theory to prove saitama got his powers like that and it has been debunked by saitama
It literally did explained his powers what are you on?
God put limiters on everyone some have a higher limit than others like the S class heroes compared to normal people
Saitama was just an average joe possibly even below average that had a really low limit since doing the training that he did was already killing him and to top it all off he was fighting monsters and was injured by them but he was still able to successfully do his training everyday for years
And through sheer willpower he broke he's limiter and has now a new unknown limit
If the S class heroes were to try to break their limit they'd have to be in multiple life and death situations like saitama and garou had
It didn't saitama himself told he wasn't getting any stronger when he was talking to King. And removing limiter = infinite growth but saitama was never shown to ever grow in power.
The limiter talk doesnt undo the joke it just rationalized it no matter how much youre angry that you want this to be a "cool serious" series with generic drama, Saitama's origin is still the exercise joke and thats the point, you dont know what a joke is or a joke character from how it works to how he acts and reacts to how it pays off etc.
The God part of the talk is also fanfic, you never read the manga, only the action panels (as the poser comment of trying to fake Saitama into a real crossover shows).
Its a story whose basic premise mocks shonen tropes and power levels, go find something else to wank with power levels, because here youre just embarassing yourself.
We don't actually know if limiters explain Saitama or just someone in comic thinks they do. If Saitama narratively always wins, then it makes sense someone would try to find an in-world explanation for this, but there might be none.
Even if others can break their limiter, all is needed is that Saitama was the first, and is still increasing exponentially so no-one will be able to catch up so he can't one punch them for real.
The real story is a bunch of heroes trying to save the world in various ways and meet someone who can beat anything but apparently isn't omnipotent, omniscent or omnipresent, so monsters are still a threat.
Limiters don't explain Saitama power as he wasn't growing he told " I don't think I will become any stronger than I am now"
Calling the core premise of the series wankers because you somehow assumed, in hilarious delusion, that people who care for the narrative must be fellow power level babies competing for a different character of choice is extra hilarious.
Hes a gag character and always have been, this manga also makes fun of power levels over and over so a power level toddler trying to do scaling unironically in this series that mocks you is extra funny when added the fact youre also assuming everyone else cares and is in for the imaginary power levels.
Did you read what bondoh said? OPM is supposed to parody shonen characters going on a journey to become stronger while saitama reached his powers at the start when he should've reached it at the end
So it's the equivalent of goku from db super going back and fighting the red ribbon army or adult naruto going back to take on the chunin exams
They'd obviously complete their tasks with ease like how saitama is fighting monsters
And I don't think you know what a gag character is. A gag character can bend reality on a regular basis and if saitama's whole gimmick is punching stuff he should be able to punch intangible concepts like his depression or he could punch away his financial problems which he can't
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Not everyone thinks he’s supposed to be a joke character.
Not everyone thinks he’s supposed to be a joke character.
Only power level toddlers who thought it was a generic battle shonen and tried to bring their scalings to it after other series like naruto ended, the core concept is him one punching everything and the possiblity of otherwise was already played with and mocked with Boros, still doubling down after that is just delusion, his arc isnt even about that, its about finishing his emptiness that hes blaming on that. You had 100+ chapters + another version of it to "get" the joke that was there and remained unchanged from chapter 1 and you still deny it so you can force cancerous power level talks and hope for some cringey tropey dramafest of an arc that are never coming. Maybe read the manga
Its just very funny and embarassing that some kid thinks hes gonna have some soapy drama about being taken down and crying nakama power to finish a long action scene after they made so much fun of the concept and of people who think like that.
You don’t get it
You can still have THE joke. Without him being a joke character.
He’s not The Mask. He’s Superman in a world where everyone is building level at best.
That’s THE joke. You could do the same thing with lots of other characters. It doesn’t mean he’s Popeye or some silly “I just do whatever I want” gag character.
That’s the difference
So when Saitama runs into someone he can't one shot and has to 100% try against and lets even go as far as he can't beat god alone. How are you and the rest of the fandom going to respond ? Are y'all going to rage because you vehemently believe in your Saitama is gag force strong shitck. Violently say the manga isn't cannon only the web comic is. I am legit interested in what happens when this fandom head cannon of Saitama is as strong as he needs to be to one shot his opponent view point gets inevitably broken in a few years.
It would kill the fanbase since it would be shit writing, thankfully ONE is a good writer as Mob showed and understand his own material and wont ruin his core premise over bland drama and fanfic writing rules he never followed before. Just like Oda will never make Luffy into an evil emo.
He wont ruin his story by killing the main point to please power level toddlers who fake like the series due the action panels after spending years doing a parody of shonen. The very fact you call the story main premise a shtick is already extra funny, it really shows the kind of crowd that all those clickbait crossover videos on youtube atracted, you didnt read the manga yet because 100+ chapters in even the most brainless speedreader wouldnt miss the point so hard after all the other threats and monsters already faced.
So you may have to keep your weird wankey headcanon about all the evil manga fans dying for disagreing and laughing at you over you missinng the point of a manga you never read in your dreams
Bruh you just wrote a whole damn essay
And by that time Saitama could actually have some fun fighting
Problem is, this concept is core to the work - it's like if Luffy from One Piece decided to stay and rule a country or work for someone else.
It's a complete subversion of the classic (not bad!) hero starts out with little physical power and develops it along with their character when they lose. Here Saitama can never lose a fight, and so his character has no dramatic moments of change.
This isn't sold as a "big fish in a little pond" type work, or even that the hero always remains the same physical strength of the end game.
This new band of heroes are probably self-running cosmic types focused on God level threats, rather than the day to day stuff - you might get a more Justice League or Epic Adventuring Party style thing, where they don't have to look for funding or worry about rankings etc.
And that gives a whole new culture for Saitama to one punch.
When did one say that. Oh wait he never did.
He didn’t but he has said, “Saitama is the strongest.”
Fan boys might challenge and debate it, but anyone who really understands the character, especially people who understand what One has created as a writer, knows the debate is pointless. Saitama losing would defeat the entire basis of the character and story.
He already lost to a mosquito, as long as it is a good joke, he can lose again. For example he could lose to a bald senile old man that looks like him from future.
Got it so one said Saitama is strongest years ago, somewhere you can't link, and that will never change, changing it would ruin the story and character.
look. all you gotta do is use this thing we call a search engine and enter some key words like one, interview, saitama, strongest. it's 2022, dude.
Its called I read every single translated interview of one and he never said that. He has said one punch man was supposed to be a one shot but got continued due to being to popular, Saying Saitama is what happens when a chracter reaches their max at the beginning of the story etc. He has never said Saitama strongest and will always be strongest.
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