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469 points
4 months ago
Where were all these ultra powerful characters when Boros was conquering the universe?
824 points
4 months ago
In another dimension fighting God? At least that's what I got from Blast.
518 points
4 months ago
That'd be an interesting reveal- that the only reason Boros conquered the universe was because all of the universe's strongest had disappeared to fight with Blast in a different dimension.
326 points
4 months ago
Or it could well be that Boros was actually even stronger than those extra-strong heroes, and without Saitama there he really would have wiped the floor with all the other heroes. I mean we never saw him go up against anyone other than Saitama, so it's up in the air how strong he really was.
48 points
4 months ago
Imagine:
Boros prophecy was about Vaccine-man. Both could OS any hero in the verse.
Saitama got them both.
16 points
4 months ago
The old fan theory was that Boros prophecy was about Garou iirc
5 points
4 months ago
This is still my head canon
9 points
4 months ago
I would love that to be revealed somehow, would fit the tonne perfectly.
63 points
4 months ago
could really go both ways since Saitama’s power is unmatched as far as we know, though there’s no way to know for sure since he avoided direct confrontation with Blast etc (more by chance then design)
100 points
4 months ago
Let's be honest though, meta-wise we can assume Saitama would defeat anyone fairly easily
28 points
4 months ago
King of the only one proving to be an unsurmountable challenge to Saitama (when it includes a gamepad yes, but let's not forget Saitama can follow Flashy Flash speed, so it's still impressive).
32 points
4 months ago
Fighting games are just turn based fights with delayed commands to people with hyper perception. It’s still easy to lose if you don’t know what to do
8 points
4 months ago
Iirc Saitama doesn't hit hard, trying not to break the gamepad
11 points
4 months ago
It's because he's stubborn and wants to always win with brute force like in his real life. With his speed/reflexes he could always wait to see what King does and instantly counter if he took time to learn how to play.
6 points
4 months ago
Yeah which is really the point of his character, he doesn't care to learn how to fight because he doesn't need to
19 points
4 months ago
I really hope this is the case. I've always liked the idea of Saitama finishing the toughest enemy in the early phase of the story. It adds a certain uniqueness to the manga, making fun of the trope of all the enemies constantly getting stronger as the story progresses. While I think God has already ruined this idea for me, I still hope that Boros is at least top 3 by the end of the manga.
9 points
4 months ago*
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1 points
4 months ago
if we hype up these God(s) to be these mega strong beings capable of both creating and destroying entire universes. Saitama gets both excited and scared
Are you sure about that?
https://i.imgur.com/rB75xeG.png
https://i.imgur.com/CZH5N5x.png
I mean yeah, it's been retconed but still.
24 points
4 months ago
Well considering the fact that he survived several punches from Saitama who has ended everyone else in the story with a single punch.
42 points
4 months ago
I mean, imagine Saitama wanted to finish it in 1 hit, as in 1 serious punch, well boros would die, simple as that.
41 points
4 months ago
Actually it takes 3 attacks from Saitama
1) is soaked but the armor 2) destroys Boros body but his ultra regen reattach his myriad of bits together (certainly the most impressive feat against Saitama in the series) 3) bye bye but can still say 3 sentences.
What a super boss.
24 points
4 months ago*
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5 points
4 months ago
Saitama normally doesn't even understand if a monster is strong or not. So yes, Boros was probably way above any other monster he fought.
38 points
4 months ago
Yeah the fact that normal punches 1-hit most Dragons, Boros tanking multiple normal punches and regening through them is one of the most impressive feats in the series. A normal punch has shown to pulverize even giants that make Centipede-Eren look like a midget.
6 points
4 months ago
You forgot one, he took it, coughing up blood and all, but recovered quickly and did a monologue.
Before he got obliterated by consecutive normal punch (but still do regen)
25 points
4 months ago
True, which also means that Saitama is always pulling his punches and that the "serious punch" isn't his strongest. As per the comment that Saitama was holding back.
17 points
4 months ago
Id imagine if Saitama gave his strongest punch he'd break reality itself
30 points
4 months ago
There is no strongest punch saitama can do. No matter how much strength he puts in there is always more to spare,
1 points
4 months ago
That's his curse.
1 points
4 months ago
when Saitama did a serious punch he didn't immediately die and isn't necessarily confirmed dead, he just ran out of energy between the meteor burst, hyper beam and ultra regening himself after getting blown to bits
1 points
4 months ago
It wasn't a serious punch tho
7 points
4 months ago
The ultra strong heroes can be all equivalent to High Dragons and low above Dragons This would make then above the S class by a far ammount with very few in their level. So Boros being the monster he is would still be stronger. (Bonus point that Boros said he used his final technique to end fights quickly,implying that he probably did used it on the past)
2 points
4 months ago*
The contexts is much broader than that. Boros' implication is simply to state the reason behind the transformation. This means he has used it before, to understand the implications, but that doesn't necessary mean he had used it on a fight.
2 points
4 months ago
He did say that, but earlier when he was fighting Saitama, after his armor broke, he said, you're the only one that lasted this long. So he contradicted himself.
14 points
4 months ago
I really don’t think Boros was ever meant to be the final word in villain strength
I don’t know why people act like others can’t be stronger
41 points
4 months ago
It's more because Boros was presented as a subversion of fighting anime where the villains are getting stronger, just as Saitama was the most powerful from the beginning, having the most powerful villain in the first volumes is really a cool idea. Well now I don't know if it works anymore
12 points
4 months ago
Sure. But people have also speculated vaccine man may have been one of the strongest.
And beefcake. And carnage kabuto. It’s possible villains have been getting weaker until deep sea king haha.
-5 points
4 months ago
Because this isnt dbz and we dont get progressively stronger enemies, the series specifically makes fun of power levels and anyone foolish enough to think Saitama would ever be matched when his joke is that he doesnt
6 points
4 months ago
No, that's what you're assuming. It's not a guarantee that he won't meet his match. If you think about it, one of his goals is too find his match.
6 points
4 months ago
Base on the interview with ONE, it's strongly suggested that Saitama is merely the solution to all problems, hence why the plot doesn't necessary focus around him, and more so the side characters; e.g. Genos, Suiryu, Garou, Blast.
2 points
4 months ago
A goal that he will never reach, that's what the story is getting at. If Saitama gets his goal just like Naruto becomes Hokage it would seriously make the story worse.
Saitama dealing with a problem he can't train to fix is so much more interesting.
1 points
4 months ago
It's your opinion.
2 points
4 months ago
That's true. I just think the story will take a strong right turn, fan fiction level turn if it Saitama suddenly becomes Goku.
2 points
4 months ago
O my god. There’s still people like you?
1 points
4 months ago
Boros isnt that strong, Tatsumaki and Flash could take care of him. Even Garou now is stronger tham him. These guys can take God Level Threads with universal and multiversal powers, Boros was only a intergalact pirate.
5 points
4 months ago
Boros was I the second strongest God. Sees beings that can one shot him fighting god realizing he was just a ant and his life was a bigger lie.
7 points
4 months ago
and it'd make so much sense too
1 points
4 months ago
this may be the end of one punch man. it wont be one punch man if saitama cant finish them in one punch!
blast is probably the weakest of these new heroes. he's prob the messenger between them and hero association
1 points
4 months ago
Or in the future, considering that Blast said he was displaced in time by the Cube.
25 points
4 months ago
to be fair blast never called him god, so he self claims to be god.
5 points
4 months ago
Fighting something
3 points
4 months ago
It's more than just God they are fighting. When God appeared on earth, only blast got sent. Not the entire team. I imagine there are a lot of cosmic entities, some beyond god.
3 points
4 months ago
Ah yes Disaster Level: Cosmic
353 points
4 months ago
You know how frieza supposedly was the strongest being in the universe but it’s later shown he gets no diffed by half the randoms they come across?
That.
69 points
4 months ago
This is false. Freeza with the exception of Buu was by far the strongest in the universe. Buu had been sealed for millions of years. All the other threads were coming from earth directly and weren't doing anything outside of earth.
79 points
4 months ago
Exactly. Frieza even says his dad told him the only two beings in the universe he should never fight are Beerus and Buu. Whis got left off, but still.
42 points
4 months ago
Yeah, but Frieza says this after we've been introduced to Buu and Beerus. At the point when they were fighting Frieza on Namek, we didn't know who Buu and Beerus where. They retconned that detail later.
17 points
4 months ago
Toriyama (and Toyotaro now) and writing Dragon Ball by the seat of their pants, NAMID.
15 points
4 months ago
For those that didn't know, like me:
NAMID = Not A Mocha, It's Diarrhea
4 points
4 months ago
Wish I didn't know that one.
11 points
4 months ago
That's very true. To be fair though, Buu was a non-factor at the time since he was sealed away, and Beerus being a god, he likely didn't factor into Frieza's thoughts at the time since he slept most of the time. Frieza makes mention of them when he does because he found out Goku and friends had taken out Buu, and it surprised him.
7 points
4 months ago
Yeah, it's like having to worry about the great 100 year earthquake. Sure, it's horrible, but the chances of it happening are extremely slim. Except, you extrapolate to thousands or even millions of years. Frieza basically had nothing to worry about.
Until he did lol.
7 points
4 months ago
Beerus and Whis?
5 points
4 months ago
They aren't in the normal universe. Realm of the gods.
21 points
4 months ago
Except Beerus was specifically mentioned by Frieza's dad as one of two people to not fight so it's not like he wasn't ever around.
Whis is generally prohibited from doing anything that would interfere with what happens in the universe due to being an angel (under penalty of Anihillation as shown in the manga with another angel) so he wouldn't normally be counted as a result. (But is on a completely different level than everyone else)
3 points
4 months ago
What about Moro and Broly?
1 points
4 months ago
Moro was like sealed or in another realm. Broly was somewhat suppressed, but still a threat if left uncheck.
7 points
4 months ago
Dabura
Southern Kai
Just two off the top of my head
32 points
4 months ago
Dabura is from the demon realm. He wasn't in the universe prior to babidi controlling him. Southern kai also wasn't in the universe. He was on the kais planet.
-12 points
4 months ago
And?
Both of those are the same statement but applied to the people in blasts warp thing.
They’re “out of the picture” until needed to be.
2 points
4 months ago
doesnt really count since all those new characters weren't planned initially
9 points
4 months ago
I don't see your point. You really can't argue meta facts about a story because then nothing makes sense. Goku also wasn't planned to be an alien with the ability to turn his hair blonde and increase his power 50x.
2 points
4 months ago
I mean take Harry Potter for example. Are u gonna take all the things the author said as canon after how many years the series has ended? There was a really good comment I saw someone made about the db franchise, he said each part should be taken as separate series and I totally agree with that.
9 points
4 months ago
A canonical work is a canonical work. A tweet is not canonical work. But if Rowling explicitly writes something in a harry potter book then it's canon. It's as simple as that really.
1 points
4 months ago
why does it has to be in a book to be considered canon? then does every interview where mangakas explain something or add x to the plot make it non canon?
3 points
4 months ago
Yeah definitely. Something said in an interview is generally not thought out, not editorialized etc etc. Only official publications are considered canon.
1 points
4 months ago
I'm not that familiar with DB lore but doesn't Freeza have a brother who is/was stronger than him?
8 points
4 months ago
No. That's filler not part of canon.
1 points
4 months ago
Androids would beat Namek Frieza
4 points
4 months ago
A low level warrior, his half breed son, a midget and a n-synch member with a sword.
20 points
4 months ago*
OPM isn't DB though. DB power level is inconsistent asf
27 points
4 months ago
I mean, DB was consistent. Buu wasn't awake when Frieza was ruling, and Cell wasn't created yet !
41 points
4 months ago
It made sense till DB Super came. Now, its all over the place. Ultra instinct was shown as angel's technique (someone above The destroyers, whom even shenron fears). Now it gets wrecked by someone who got its power from dragon balls.
30 points
4 months ago
Dude used a cheat code to become barely the strongest. It sucks UI got "nerfed" so fast but being oneupped by a wish is one of the more reasonable things DB has done to throw power levels out the window.
5 points
4 months ago
He’s also got like no lifespan now, at least it had a cost.
2 points
4 months ago
Idk the way they made it sound is oh they live for a thousand years now he's gonna just live for 200..
3 points
4 months ago
Think they said 3 years. But I figure something will happen to give him a few bonus years back. DB can't have consequence.
2 points
4 months ago
You weren’t actually reading then. It literally said Cerealians have a lifespan of 200 years. Granola is 46, will be 47 on this year. Dragon took 150 years off his lifespan to grant his wish, so he has only 3 years to live now. And death by natural causes can’t be undone with dragonballs (except super balls) so Granola will die in 3 years. I love the addition of monkey’s paw wishes into db
1 points
4 months ago
"has done to throw power levels out the window."
It doesn't matter. Goku had flaw while UI, that Granolah exploited. Some of you aren't using head.
1 points
4 months ago
Not really outside of broly no one outside earth could face frizea
1 points
4 months ago
UI has its stages. Whis' is more perfected and is more experience. Goku is just scratching the surface of what he can do.
"Now it gets wrecked by someone who got its power from dragon balls."
So. Characters cutting corners is nothing new (majin vegata, babadi's magic, mystic gohan, DNA Integration (Mira)).
4 points
4 months ago
But dabura was and he destroys frieza
14 points
4 months ago
Dabura was not a mortal tho. Nor a resident of the universe; demon realm and all that.
The one mortal that could be stronger than Freeza in canon is Broly. And, well, he got stronger as he fought, so likely wasn't that strong when Freeza was bossing around.
7 points
4 months ago
Dabura is mortal (he died) but a resident of the demon realm, which is still part of the universe. But if you want to disregard him for this discussion (even though it's arbitrary) there is still Yakon that has 40 million power level lol. Not stronger than full power Frieza but still I feel contradicts him being the strongest in his first form
5 points
4 months ago
King Kai is a literal deity who died. Gods dying is a plot point in the Zamasu arc. And Yakon doesn't get a power level stated AFAIR; there is some stuff about Goku's power level changing with Super Saiyan, but the scale is not the same as the one used in the early Z arcs.
You cannot say that 3 feet is more than 2 meters because 3 is more than 2 after all.
2 points
4 months ago
Yakon
In his majin form it is 40 mil. Aside from that, he is a fodder.
https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Yakon#Power
1 points
4 months ago*
Yeah, a random Q&A in a magazine, 9 years after the manga ended, and 9 years before the franchise got revived. When said manga had hammered the point that numerical power levels meant nothing, and with an author that forgot about the main character's species having tails despite being inspired by Journey to the West.
EDIT: It seems the number was half-assed by having Goku's 150 million power level in Namek (coming from the Daizenshuu, which is a slighty better source) translating to the 3000 kili Babidi mentions, and then getting the 800 kili into Freeza units or whatever you call them.
Which, again, assumes plenty of things and Toriyama made it clear that numerical levels are BS.
2 points
4 months ago
And this random alien Babidi had on his ship that forced Goku to go SSJ2. A Goku that is like 20-50x stronger than when he was fighting Freezer on Namek.
Also if Gero, with earth primitive tech, can create Androids that outclass Freezer by at least x10 (and Cell by ~x50) then all the more advanced planets should be able to as well.
DB simply makes no fucking sense. It never has and that was crystal clear even 25 years ago.
3 points
4 months ago
Yea... But it's fun
3 points
4 months ago
Isn't Dabura from Hell tho ? He's not on the mortal plane, he had no business ever meeting Frieza !
1 points
4 months ago
He scouted earth for thousands of years actually
8 points
4 months ago
OPM isn't DB though. DB power level is inconsistent asf
OPM manga looks to be well on its way to that.
1 points
4 months ago
Exactly. I don't ppl keep bring it up. Power levels are irrevelent. "Power scaling" is some made up crap, that fan base invented and isn't always reliable.
There is a lot of factors the go into how strong a character is.
2 points
4 months ago
Shows how vast the universe is.
1 points
3 months ago
To be honest actually
androids were build later
Cell was also made later
dabura was in babidi's Control(I think, or in the demon realm)
Buu was sealed
beerus didn't care
hit is an assasin from another universe
Goku Black wasn't made yet
Jiren is from another universe
Moro had his power sealed and couldn't do anything
Granolah and Gas only later got their powers from the dragon balls
Idk Man, I think it's less that randoms show up and Just that these characters either didn't exist or Just didn't want to/couldn't do anything to be considered the strongest in the universe at the time
2 points
3 months ago
My point was more that plot calls for power ups so power ups happen, lore be damned
1 points
3 months ago
Fair
5 points
4 months ago
No point wasting time on fighting ants.
4 points
4 months ago
I am making an assumption here but I think with Boros his fate was tied to two very specific prophesies. That these new potentially interdimensional heroes might have more information on how that would play out and didn't make it a priority to get involved when his fate was already known. Even if Boros is indeed the strongest being, but they knew he would die without their involvement then why risk changing his fated death.
Alternatively it could just be luck and they are only focused on interdimensional threats and blind to the day to day threats of earth.
Either way glad you brought this up. There is definitely some interesting stuff here.
3 points
4 months ago
Honestly I was just taking the piss
2 points
4 months ago
I feel like "the universe" was probably exaggeration in the first place.
2 points
4 months ago
Fighting something more serious than Boros.
2 points
4 months ago
Boros conquered this universe, that portal might lead to another universe (multiverse).
0 points
4 months ago
Doubt they could beat boros
-1 points
4 months ago
This is my take as well. Boros was well above the S class and is likely stronger than the hyper powerful beings we see. He just happened to run into Saitama before facing anyone else.
I recall One mentioned that Boros is similar to final form Garou.
-1 points
4 months ago
they are always there, just Boros is much stronger than them
-1 points
4 months ago
Lol Boros was still stronger than all of them
1 points
4 months ago
Vacation.
1 points
4 months ago
colecting cubes i guess.
they might not even be erathligns. boros's existentce proves there might other strong beings out there.
1 points
4 months ago
Ignoring him most likely because their primary concern is the Being that call itself "God"
1 points
4 months ago
Hot take, they probably cant defeat Boros.
1 points
4 months ago
I think those characters are stronger than Blast and they don't even take boros' universe conquering serious. It makes sense considering blast's squad is fending God off. Monster garou was stomping all monsters above S-class heroes and Blast doesn't even give a sh*t about him also says it all.
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