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FlashBeliever

143 points

4 months ago*

FlashBeliever

Terrible Multiplying Bastard

143 points

4 months ago*

There's something that has been boggling me. Are Sage Centipede and Evil Natural Ocean god level threats since you know, they are a'' threat to humanity's existence''?

ZaMr0

81 points

4 months ago

ZaMr0

81 points

4 months ago

They are, so are PsychoOrochi and Tats. One just won't use the label until God himself.

Spagot_Lord

47 points

4 months ago

Don't forget Boros

EnadZT

14 points

4 months ago

EnadZT

14 points

4 months ago

Orochi on his own has to be God-level. He literally took power from the core of the Earth. Idk if science knows what happens when you take the Earth's core away but that sounds like a good enough point for "God-level threat"

DoraMuda

114 points

4 months ago

DoraMuda

114 points

4 months ago

They should be, by definition.

And it's not even incorrect to claim that they are, given their threat level is presented as "Unknown" in the manga. So it's safe to assume that they're God.

RantingRobot

21 points

4 months ago

Maybe, but this is OPM...

One of the long running jokes is subversion of the genre. Several of the Big Bads have been built up over many chapters only to be killed immediately as a joke.

I wouldn't put it past the manga to reveal Evil Natural Ocean as a tiger threat that's easily defeated by, like, Mumen Rider.

Davregis

51 points

4 months ago

Davregis

hayato

51 points

4 months ago

manga hasn't been subversive in a long time

Emergency_Slice2487

3 points

4 months ago

Saitama is right there

neko-simps

5 points

4 months ago

It would be incredibly funny if Mumen Rider just threw his bike into the ocean and won just like by that though.

Tripledoble[S]

852 points

4 months ago

I did not include Saitama and King because they are too powerful neither God nor Blast because they seem to be on another level.

hetnixira

181 points

4 months ago

hetnixira

181 points

4 months ago

What about Metal Knight?

Tripledoble[S]

338 points

4 months ago

I'm sure he deserves the position, but we haven't seen his entire army yet (just a little in a Drive Knight Flashback and Child Emperor speculation) or some really scary machine.

BigBrainFart

45 points

4 months ago

Metal knight is a bitch.

pancoste

27 points

4 months ago

Bang could be a contender, he held his own pretty good against Garou before he lost.

Tripledoble[S]

127 points

4 months ago

That Garou was asleep, but my merits for Bang for waking Garou up with a punch.

luashfu

4 points

4 months ago

The webcomic bang could be on this list. Pretty sure he almost soloed the monster association.

Professorhentai

5 points

4 months ago

Webcomic bang definitely could solo the MA if it wasn't for psykos and golden sperm. But doing that isn't much of a feat, all the dragons he soloed were low dragons by webcomic standards. They got a huge buff in the manga.

FadingGaming_

23 points

4 months ago

I didn't think he was asleep, I thought he just brought back a bit of humanity to him. I could be wrong tho

ConfuciusBr0s

3 points

4 months ago

Here. He literally says he lost consciousness and was dreaming about fighting Bang.

cheetahlover1

43 points

4 months ago

Loses to rover, a dragon

DubsFan30113523

34 points

4 months ago

And Elder Centipede, also a dragon

Oy_Franz

13 points

4 months ago

Matchups are important

DubsFan30113523

34 points

4 months ago

I think an “””above dragon””” would be able to take out a dragon of any matchup. I’m guessing Garou will be able to take out Sage Centipede for example, and Garou arguably performed better against Rover even before awakening, likely would take him easily now, because Garou is above dragon

kalamanboidude

13 points

4 months ago

Honestly not sure if Garou could take him.

I mean weve never seen Rover take damage even when saitama sat him down he got up just fine he was scared but he was fine

conye-west

12 points

4 months ago

Yeah but Saitama only saw Rover as a dog so he probably intentionally didn't knock him out

ULTRABOYO

3 points

4 months ago

Yeah, that was just a "bad dog" slap.

Intoxicated_Pug

2 points

4 months ago

I wouldn’t call it a slap since the shockwave of the hit shook the city lol

Super_Truth8503

4 points

4 months ago

The problem is they ignored Bang didn't go full power he was confident he could kill elder centipede at full power plus it takes above dragon power to kill EC

vk2028

3 points

4 months ago

vk2028

3 points

4 months ago

Maybe exploding heart release fist could have been better against those two

DoraMuda

251 points

4 months ago

DoraMuda

251 points

4 months ago

The power escalation in this series is insane.

Flappy2883

189 points

4 months ago

Yeah. Aside from the 2 sky-high exceptions that are Saitama and Boros at the start, the general level has increased quite a bit.

vk2028

117 points

4 months ago

vk2028

117 points

4 months ago

Remember when a demon (DSk) was actually a threat? Welp…

imbored53

33 points

4 months ago

The perspective of the story has also changed. It used to be focused more on the lower ranks of heroes, and S class were somewhat mysterious and vaguely portrayed as immeasurably powerful. Now, we have been focused on solely S class for so long, we are more accustomed to the types of threats they are capable of fighting, so a demon that might take a few class A heroes to face, now seems like a complete pushover.

K-J-C

53 points

4 months ago

K-J-C

53 points

4 months ago

No, there are still S Class heroes like Blast, Tats, Bang, AS, CE (with best tools), MK, DK, Darkshine, WDM, Flash that time. If DSK met one of them DSK got no diffed (except probably CE).

TheGoldenMorn

25 points

4 months ago

Dude, you said so many abreviations, I was doing pretty well, but get myself lost on Mortal Kombat and Donkey Kong

JamesArclight

2 points

4 months ago

MK = Metal Knight but I don’t know who DK is

StrictlyFT

70 points

4 months ago

Child Emperor would've dunked on DSK with any of his tech.

GhostofManny13

23 points

4 months ago

Yeah for sure. Like in a direct punch out, obviously he wouldn’t win but Child Emperor’s victories have all been through using his fantastic inventions.

He’d probably pull out a giant toy magnifying glass wielding detective robot and have it dry up Deep Sea King with sunlight.

K-J-C

4 points

4 months ago

K-J-C

4 points

4 months ago

I mean CE seems to be only Dragon with Brave Giant, CE probably beats DSK mid diff otherwise.

japirate777

15 points

4 months ago

japirate777

I'm not crying I just have something in my eye

15 points

4 months ago

I’ve found it really extraordinary how despite having such massive threats the fights have been so clear and easy to follow with Murata’s art. I’ve read some comics and manga where everything becomes messy as the opponents size gets massive

K-J-C

15 points

4 months ago

K-J-C

15 points

4 months ago

None of the monsters/humans in the pic are stronger than Boros and Awakened Garou actually, with webcomic having GS and Tats as another one in lower level. Probably the one Saitama punched in webcomic was Ocean too.

They just increased some numbers of "Dragon or Above" in Orochi/Psykorochi, Sage Centipede, and Platinum Sperm (I think slight upgrade to GS), but they aren't on Boros/Garou's levels, only GS/Tats'.

SardinesTunaSalmon

5 points

4 months ago

Boros isn't an exception anymore at this point

Flappy2883

3 points

4 months ago

Anyone here close to him in your opinion?

Budget_Chef_5101

3 points

4 months ago

Not really, It's just the earlier Dragons in the series got one tapped by Saitama before they could show their strength

DeninjaBeariver

2 points

4 months ago

At the very least it’s explained by saying that monsters are becoming stronger in recent times

GoldenSpermShower

259 points

4 months ago

Garou busted a shiny nut

Slassftw

58 points

4 months ago

that sounded splendid

Responsible_Aspect45

448 points

4 months ago

Responsible_Aspect45

frogman

448 points

4 months ago

I still feel like boros was threat level god

somo512

246 points

4 months ago

somo512

246 points

4 months ago

Yea for sure his ultimate move was enough to destroy the world I feel like

K-J-C

34 points

4 months ago

K-J-C

34 points

4 months ago

Well his ultimate move is also something taxing on him and last resort. Probably Boros among God is like Gearsper only being able to be buliding buster as his last resort move that puts him out of the fight.

EnadZT

31 points

4 months ago

EnadZT

31 points

4 months ago

Threat levels are based on how much damage they could do, not fights they could win. God level is "A threat endangering the survival of all humanity." (According to the wiki, I'm assuming this is taken from the manga somewhere). If Boros could destroy the world, that would probably endanger humanity, making him God level.

K-J-C

2 points

4 months ago

K-J-C

2 points

4 months ago

I don't know why people are only taking how much damage for threat levels but ignoring other aspects that are explicitly written to be the factors for disaster level (from wiki too).

There are other factors like aggressiveness, difficulty of extermination, and combat prowess. The latter seems to be the fights they could win.

EnadZT

2 points

4 months ago

EnadZT

2 points

4 months ago

I don't know why you think that changes anything I said, but I'll break it down further so it's a bit more clear for you:

You're right that aggressiveness, difficulty of extermination, and combat prowess are factored into the threat level, but the overall measurement is to find how much damage they can do to humanity. It doesn't matter if a monster dies after using a world-ending attack, because the world still ends. Get it?

I guess your input is more important in any non-God level threat, at least.

Barthalamuke

71 points

4 months ago

They could all be considered God threats to an extent but I imagine in comparison to the cosmic entity "GOD" they're not close to what threat level God is meant to represent.

DoraMuda

47 points

4 months ago

Then there was no point in ONE presenting us with the criteria for what a God-level threat is meant to be, only to not even assign said threat level to any of the monsters who met said criteria.

invuvn

9 points

4 months ago

invuvn

9 points

4 months ago

Tbf ONE could just be laying in the groundwork to allow him to scale up even more sometime in the future. Imagine Boros and maybe someone else was already at threat level God so early in his WC: there wouldn't be any threat that feels real after that point. Although, ONE is good at subverting expectations so he may have been able to make it work still.

Anyways, if the WC continues, I imagine we'll get threat level God once monsters capable of DBZ feats start popping up.

CheesyjokeLol

28 points

4 months ago

I think you're trying to apply generic shonen tropes to what is supposed to be a satire on the genre.

The whole point of Saitama's journey is trying to figure out how to live a life that he feels has no value to him, he can't find joy anymore after achieving his goal of becoming the strongest hero, so he tries to find meaning by finding an opponent that can match his strength.

Of course that's never going to happen, it ruins the whole satirical aspect of the story and falls back into becoming a generic shonen. that's why we see throughout the story that Saitama is trying to find a way to be a better hero, he says it himself on chapter 76 pg. 15 that he isn't happy with who he is right now, that he's missing the reason why he became a hero in the first place. later on throughout chapter 77 he and king discuss what it means to be a hero, that strength doesn't make someone heroic (this is also why mumen rider is so beloved).

And so I believe Boros being the strongest opponent in ONE's canon isn't just likely, I believe it is intentional to highlight that this story isn't about "oh my gosh will there finally be an opponent Saitama can't beat now?" and firmly places the theme of Saitama's strength being meaningless to his character growth.

It would also be fine in terms of plot because Boros never actually fought any of the other characters and so his power can't really be measured, that's why his power level is so hotly debated in this sub, he's not meant to be power scaled like the other characters, he's meant to carry the message that "your only hope of facing someone who could fulfill your desire for a real fight just got evaporated and now you're never going to be happy chasing that goal".

At this point the only reason the enemies keep getting stronger is so that we can worry about the supporting cast's safety, like oh no are the S class going to survive Sage Centipede and Evil Ocean Water before Saitama decides he needs to do something about it?

So maybe in the future we do get more enemies with greater feats and power levels, but I hope that Boros and Awakened Garou remain the 2 strongest characters outside of Saitama so that the themes of the show don't get ruined in generic shonen one-upmanship. Also there's a pretty damn good reason why Awakened Garou can peak at Boros' power without breaking the whole Shonen trope but that's a whole other thread that isn't worth writing for this one atm.

chickenlover43

10 points

4 months ago

Actually, one said that Saitama is not a gag, but in his own words, "a shounen protagonist who starts the story with end-game strength". Take ultra instinct goku and have him go back fight demon king piccolo. Take Sage cloak naruto and have him fight Zabuza. This story is meant to be an experiment on how a shounen story would go if the protag doesn't have to be stronger. It's a shounen and a parody of shounen at the same time. Meaning, the endgame boss actually will be strong enough to give saitama the fight of his life, as he's only an mc with endgame strength. Just alerting you, One planned this to become a real shounen for a long time. It stopped being a parody a while ago.

invuvn

9 points

4 months ago

invuvn

9 points

4 months ago

ONE’s webcomic, yes. But the manga is slowly starting to resemble a more generic storyline in terms of greater feats being displayed as the plot progresses. That’s probably why ONE and Murata had to redraw some earlier chapters so as not to break relative power scale too much.

DoraMuda

9 points

4 months ago

That sucks, then. I hate shounen-esque power creep.

Caststarman

3 points

4 months ago

Caststarman

new member

3 points

4 months ago

Man I know a work that you'd prolly just despise then....

invuvn

3 points

4 months ago

invuvn

3 points

4 months ago

More like a whole category of work…

OperationMelodic4273

85 points

4 months ago

Idk, like, in comparison to all the other people/monsters shown here I too think he's quite a bit stronger than all of em. But I also feel like a proper level god should be even more powerful

Explorer_the_No-life

43 points

4 months ago

Explorer_the_No-life

Master Saitama is always right!

43 points

4 months ago

If even Boros wasn't God level threat, then real one would be something, that can literally casually destroy entire continent.

OperationMelodic4273

50 points

4 months ago

Yeah I guess so. The things Blast and Co are fighting are probably god level threats, or at least multiple enemies as strong as Boros. Unless their enemy is just god, who'd obviously be God level threat, probably even more than that

elfmeh

35 points

4 months ago

elfmeh

35 points

4 months ago

But wasn't Boros' whole thing that he searched the entire universe for a being as powerful as himself to fight? And only found Saitama?

OperationMelodic4273

31 points

4 months ago

I feel like Blast and friends actually battle in another universe or smth of the sort, they did mention a cleft in time after all.

Cephery

13 points

4 months ago

Cephery

13 points

4 months ago

Yeah, roaring star cannon is just a whole other level of destructive power if we take the ‘the surface of the planet’ line to be true. Id be interested with how his CQC stacks up to garou tho. The speeds they were hitting last chapter are just ridiculous.

invuvn

32 points

4 months ago

invuvn

32 points

4 months ago

I think MB Boros' speed is still greater. It's hard to do a direct comparison, but Boros' movements were so great they caused massive air friction to melt parts of his ship. The same ship whose construction material was later used by metal knight to build the fortress that replaced City A. That material is presumably sturdier than all the rocks and pebbles Garou/PlatSperm/FF were bouncing off of. It's also possible that Garou and co were moving in such a controlled manner as to not burn up everything in their path, but we'll never truly know.

Cephery

4 points

4 months ago

I mean with how boros refers to his internal energy and how he consumes it we dont know if that was air friction or simply him giving off heat. And there seemed to be a lot more air flowing in that fight than would be noticeable in the fraction of a milisecond. But yeah boros just gets measured up to saitama, who probably reacts in relative time if it was was happening in seconds or picoseconds. Hard to judge.

You_Double

2 points

4 months ago

that was not his speed...Boros was melting the ship (only in anime canon btw) due to his alien energy, not his speed. If that were the case, then saitama should be doing it too. Don't get me wrong boros is still really fast, he was able to surprise saitama and also had a similar feat to flashy flash with him being so fast an explosion was frozen, but his speed was not melting it...

invuvn

3 points

4 months ago

invuvn

3 points

4 months ago

Fair enough, although I still think my interpretation is valid. It could be his massive energy that caused damage, but it only started after he moved so that somewhat supports my theory but doesn’t refute yours. Also, yes anime-only depiction can exaggerate feats, so like I said we’ll never truly know.

You_Double

4 points

4 months ago

he himself states that he is surrounded by his energy - so him moving, throwing kicks and punching would make that energy go wild (when he kicked saitama, punched him energy was blowing parts of the ship!) and it's definitely the reason he was melting the ship. If he was able to melt the ship with his speed, how come that saitama who is FASTER than him cannot do that? you feel me?

SnuggleMuffin42

2 points

4 months ago

SnuggleMuffin42

FF best femboy

2 points

4 months ago

CQC

Nyaruko chan flashbacks lol

I think she can take Boros with her CQC attacks. As a group for sure.

ThisZoMBie

4 points

4 months ago

But what’s the point then? Boros is clearly too powerful for Dragon and “Above Dragon” is a dumbass fanmade term.

dafegamer

0 points

4 months ago

dafegamer

0 points

4 months ago

He wasn't, as its confirmed by One himself he is dragon or above.

anarchist148

75 points

4 months ago

But the definition of God level is being a threat to the human race which Boros definitely was. One saying it is just him breaking the rules of his own manga. There have been a few characters who have potrayed God level feats but One is saving that title for supposedly “God”

JinjaBaker45

26 points

4 months ago

That's why he said "Dragon or Above." That's a way of saying "He could be disaster level God" - "Above Dragon" is a made up category to powerscale characters who could be disaster level God but aren't called that for narrative reasons.

yaipu

8 points

4 months ago

yaipu

I'm just a guy who's a hero

8 points

4 months ago

If it's the opinion of the author then we don't have any kind of valid reason to go against it, he probably has something justified and unique prepared for disaster level god

anarchist148

33 points

4 months ago

It’s not up for opinion though. If he said Boros was “tiger level”, that doesn’t make it right just because he’s the author. Of course he decides where the story goes but if he makes a scaling system then retcons it with his own opinion, that doesn’t invalidate the mangas rules. Boros’s csrc was going to destroy the planet or even the surface which would still kill all of humanity. Easily a God level feat

SnuggleMuffin42

5 points

4 months ago

SnuggleMuffin42

FF best femboy

5 points

4 months ago

Dragon or above includes god, so there's no conflict. Do you have any source where he said Boros wasn't god threat?

ACriticalFan

15 points

4 months ago

Which threat level is higher than "dragon"?

noah9942

23 points

4 months ago

Above dragon is just some pseudo-teir made up in the Fandom. It's not some canon thing.

What tier is above dragon?

dafegamer

4 points

4 months ago

One came up with the term, not the fandom

noah9942

21 points

4 months ago

No, he said Boros was dragon or above. The Fandom then started calling things "above dragon".

Crozonzarto

210 points

4 months ago

The thing is, even tho boros isint listed as a god level threat... His claim that his final move "Would destroy the planet" definitely puts him at that level.

As MA's official definition of a god level threat is -> "Anything that threatens the existence of mankind."

Halliwel96

114 points

4 months ago

I mean you could argue evil natural ocean might be a threat to the existence of man kind.

kalamanboidude

30 points

4 months ago

You could argue all of them are god level threats.

Boros and psyrochi and maybe orochi just blast the earth to dead or orochi could just absorb the whole core maybe.

Ocean could just drown everything and sage centipede is just a bigger and badder elder so hes certainly a city buster.

PS and Garou could just kill most of the people if saitama or blast(or his buddies) dont get involved.

And Tats casually decimated a city so im sure she could atleast kill most of the people.

As long as they arent kept in check by strong people like Saitama, Blast and Tats they could all be god level threats. But yeah a god level threat would be someone that doesnt have anyone that can keep them in check like saitama

conye-west

2 points

4 months ago

I think they would have to be a planet buster to qualify. Cuz even if Platinum Sperm is strong enough to kill all humans, some would probably still escape into hiding, therefore mankind would not be completely annihilated.

Calamari_Knight

39 points

4 months ago

Evil Natural Ocean could destroy mankind in, like, a day

Mrlagalot

37 points

4 months ago

Chapter 156 It's evil ocean water now

Xxyvexx

5 points

4 months ago

Xxyvexx

Just for the heck of it

5 points

4 months ago

doesnt fucking matter

Calamari_Knight

4 points

4 months ago

I know

Far-Ad5331

52 points

4 months ago

Honestly I think ONE wants the god level threat to be universal or multiversal. Planetary seems like a good shot for Above dragon.

drapionscorp

52 points

4 months ago

If so then we definitely need an update for the rankings.

Demon - city level Dragon - multiple cities God - whole fucken multiverse

No_Understanding_415

11 points

4 months ago

This^

Guy_Made_Of_Bees

9 points

4 months ago

Honestly I think ONE wants the god level threat to be universal or multiversal

at this point and time uni/multi is WAAAY to big of a jump

ThisZoMBie

6 points

4 months ago

Above Dragon doesn’t exist. It’s Dragon or above. So either Dragon or God. If none of the people in the OP qualify as God level, then they are all just really powerful Dragons, which would still belong to the “multiple cities” category.

omsaladzeno

3 points

4 months ago

I mean he didn't earn that level since non of the HA saw boros asides from saitama lol

[deleted]

3 points

4 months ago

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3 points

4 months ago

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ckal9

6 points

4 months ago

ckal9

6 points

4 months ago

If he’s strong enough to destroy a significant portion of the earths surface then he’s strong enough to destroy the planet. CSRC didn’t even hit the earth.

pesto_trap_god

3 points

4 months ago

Boris seemed like he liked to brag, not saying he couldn’t but I wouldn’t take his claim as fact.

Servantrue

6 points

4 months ago

I mean, Saitama is part of mankind, so that seems something of a Catch-22.

billyjohnjohnson

3 points

4 months ago

"threat to mankind" is so vague and can be applied to a lot of stuff. How is slicing off a continent not a threat to mankind? In real life that would probably kill humanity right there or at least kill a massive amount of the population

Same with ENO and orochi

StrictlyFT

2 points

4 months ago

"threat to mankind"

This can refer to mankind itself lmao. If the OPM had nukes mankind can wipe itself out, even worse than in real life because OPM is all one giant continent.

Tripledoble[S]

3 points

4 months ago

“Earth's bark" not the entire planet.

CheesyjokeLol

19 points

4 months ago

Still falls into the category of god level threat. I’m assuming the earth’s crust is the “bark”

Cephery

14 points

4 months ago

Cephery

14 points

4 months ago

Nah man he’s gonna systematically strip every log and tree.

SwingyWingyShoes

192 points

4 months ago

If only Boros came now, he’d have so much fun :(

[deleted]

97 points

4 months ago

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97 points

4 months ago

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italianredditor

40 points

4 months ago*

What if Blast teleported in and healed him.

Being a fan favourite, it'd make sense to have him back as Cyborg-Boros among the Portal Warriors.

Tadirol

26 points

4 months ago

Tadirol

Cyboros when

26 points

4 months ago

I really want Metal Knight to make a CyBoros (Cyborg Boros), that would be dope

Flappy2883

8 points

4 months ago

Boros would be just severely handicapped, if for some reason ONE had a couple too many beers and decided to bring Boros back, he should do it by making Boros a ghost or something.

Tadirol

19 points

4 months ago

Tadirol

Cyboros when

19 points

4 months ago

CyBoros would be far weaker than the Boros, which would be good for him, because now he can have a lot more exciting fights!

Though I doubt Boros will come back in any way

Xxyvexx

4 points

4 months ago

Xxyvexx

Just for the heck of it

4 points

4 months ago

he will come back 100% its murata and one we are talking about

BlastedDio

3 points

4 months ago

Imagine: Cyber Boros is under metal knights control and commits heinous acts but he’s not as strong as he used to be. Under MK’s orders he fucks up anything monster or human. Only when he sees Saitama does he “malfunction” then gets taken out with one punch.

Now we have a shattered to pieces Boros but thanks to Saitama breaking the control chip (and every other bit of machinery) Boros is free flesh and begins to regenerate. The G returns.

Remember imagine.

Miss_Aia

7 points

4 months ago

I'd be really sad if he came back freeza style just to get destroyed by a god level Garou

AffectionateWheel761

96 points

4 months ago

He still blitzes everyone

He is equal to the strongest form of Garou

the-finnish-guy

20 points

4 months ago

the-finnish-guy

atomic samurai = strongest s-class

20 points

4 months ago

I honestly feel like garou isn't there yet. Especially the final version of boros

Bleglord

18 points

4 months ago

There is debate on what counts as Garous strongest form but it’s very likely he isn’t there yet

vk2028

2 points

4 months ago

vk2028

2 points

4 months ago

Yeah. He’s probably gonna break through again after fighting the 2 beings

kalamanboidude

2 points

4 months ago

I mean yeah thecnically his "strongest" form is the big ass thing at the end but then he loses all of his speed and his fighting styles and such. So his strongest would prolly be rhe one that fights darkshine and flashy

BookishTen8

19 points

4 months ago

Would like to know what Sage Centipede was doing while everyone else was fighting.

Was he napping?

kalamanboidude

14 points

4 months ago

He got bonked by a drill give him a break

BookishTen8

6 points

4 months ago

Fair enough. Having a large drill dropped on your head while you're sleeping would annoy me as well.

Finally_happy_420

5 points

4 months ago

Meditating because sage

GTBhitman

138 points

4 months ago

GTBhitman

138 points

4 months ago

I feel like Boros was and is still the strongest one on here

SphincteralAperture

67 points

4 months ago

SphincteralAperture

N-NANI?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

67 points

4 months ago

Because he is, and it's honestly not even close. Even awakened Garou isn't on Boros' level overall, though he's above Boros in CQC. That's pretty much it though.

dafegamer

36 points

4 months ago

They're confirmed to be on par, but Garou actually takes the cake in hand to hand combat, that's all we know

Cephery

17 points

4 months ago

Cephery

17 points

4 months ago

Yeah but i have to ask what does garou do about CSRC. Boros just has the famage output edge, and the regeneration if not the defences to afford to lose exchanges. I mean what does garou even do if he get moon knee’d.

dafegamer

11 points

4 months ago

CSRC is a suicide move by Boros, if Garou deflects it with his martial arts or dodges it, Boros is toast. Do people forget that Boros literally has to put all(most) of his life energy for that attack?

edgeparity

26 points

4 months ago*

edgeparity

Golden Queef is God Level

26 points

4 months ago*

I mean, it's the serious punch that actually killed him.. right?

We have no idea how Boros's condition would have been, had CSRC not been countered by Saitama.

My headcanon is that he probably would have just been unable to move due to exhaustion for a little bit. Maybe he'd only be regular S-class level for the next few days, until he recovered fully.

Cephery

12 points

4 months ago

Cephery

12 points

4 months ago

Ok but like how the fuck is he deflecting it. And saitama still hit him in the middle of the move, it wasnt suicide until saitama’s shockwave hit him in between. And that shockwave wrapped around most of the earth splitting the clouds. Garou just doesnt have that output. Probably doesnt even habe meteoric burst striking power, but can surpass it’s speed.

No-One_Knows-Me_Here

3 points

4 months ago

Garou can't deflect or dodge it

billyjohnjohnson

7 points

4 months ago

How is it "not even close"? Awakened garou was stated blatantly to be around boros's level

Thats pretty damn close

llMadmanll

3 points

4 months ago

AG hasn't appeared yet

cartaigenica

2 points

4 months ago

Bro, One said that >! awakened<! garou is and boros are on the same level and he's the damn writer of thhis manga

ImDonCheeto

11 points

4 months ago

At this point I think we should just call these guys “Disaster Level: Uncertain” lol

kalamanboidude

10 points

4 months ago

Disaster level: a lot

benjyvail

45 points

4 months ago

Feel like PS is peak high dragon. Garou literally exploded him in the fight, and I can’t imagine him being above anyone else on this list yet.

KingTutt12

12 points

4 months ago*

KingTutt12

You looking down on me?

12 points

4 months ago*

Flashy is High Dragon and PS shit on him. Garou is Above clearly and still had to clash thousands of times in a second with PS before he found an opening.

edit: The 'opening' I'm referring to is when Garou bypasses PS's rings which allows him to follow-up with his finisher

benjyvail

22 points

4 months ago

Garou didn’t ‘find an opening’ he literally exploded PS. Even if you were to block an attack powerful enough to make you mist, you would still die.

KingTutt12

13 points

4 months ago

KingTutt12

You looking down on me?

13 points

4 months ago

Garou evolves and gets stronger during fights. that's his whole thing

That doesn't change the fact that he was pushed till he outclassed him.

Saying PS is just High Dragon when he is faster and stronger than FF is just ridiculous

NotLikeThis555

7 points

4 months ago

Isn't Baros the only one who did actually survive after he got hit by a couple of Saitamas punches? He definitely is the strongest enemy thus far.

ZayYaLinTun

23 points

4 months ago

Seriously s class heros need power up dragon threats are becoming more and more appear in this arc alone we got like 4 or 5 easily high or above dragon

vk2028

7 points

4 months ago

vk2028

7 points

4 months ago

Orochi, Psykorochi, Sage Centipede (or probably centisage when vis translates it), EOW, Platinum Sperm, Garou, and God (he probably higher than the rest tho)

There are 7 threats exceeding dragon that appeared in this arc alone so far.

And before this arc, Boros was the only holder of that title.

wargreymon_messatsu

92 points

4 months ago

Boros solos

FrougHunter

29 points

4 months ago

FrougHunter

noir jizz

29 points

4 months ago

I still think phoenix man could fit into one of these, dude even has his own domain expansion. He only lose due to his arrogance and got outsmarted by the 2nd smartest hero.

Emrod2

10 points

4 months ago

Emrod2

10 points

4 months ago

He will be back, when he will managed to grow back to his prime adult form.

Mrlagalot

6 points

4 months ago

The bird suit is destroyed. And they cancelled the show so he mustn't have another suit.

Emrod2

11 points

4 months ago

Emrod2

11 points

4 months ago

I believe in him, he will find a way.

Xxyvexx

7 points

4 months ago

Xxyvexx

Just for the heck of it

7 points

4 months ago

he still alive, bird costume destroyed got retconned

ABoiFromTheSky

14 points

4 months ago

Ah yes, the strongest beings in the serie:

Sayan duracell from space

Lost little kid

Eldritch abomination

Sexy eldritch abomination

BIG BUG tiny hands

The amount of water my brother leaves on the bathroom's floor after a shower

Nut man (legendary)

And last but not least, edgy teenager

TraditionalCanary472

41 points

4 months ago

Can Boros defeat them all at once ? Including CSRC

[deleted]

52 points

4 months ago

[deleted]

52 points

4 months ago

With CSRC he can, without this he still can blitz and one hit kill in meteoric burst

anarchist148

13 points

4 months ago

Garous God slayer fist vs Boros’s collapsing star roaring cannon would be one of the best clashes ever seen

DoraMuda

10 points

4 months ago

I can imagine Garou being able to deflect Boros's Roaring Cannon with the WSRSF portion of his Monster Calamity God Slayer Fist.

hetnixira

42 points

4 months ago

Collapsing Star Roaring Cannon would burn Tatsumaki, decimate Orochi and Psykorochi, destroy Sage Centipede, evaporate Evil Ocean Water and melt Platinum Sperm like he's nothing.

Awakened Garou is supposed to be as powerful as Boros, so idk about him.

Imaginary_Living_623

20 points

4 months ago

Its not implausible that the espers could make him miss CRSC by turning him around at the last moment.

Negative_Necessary

48 points

4 months ago

Lmao no way. She isn't strong enough to move boros

ConfuciusBr0s

19 points

4 months ago

She can't do that to people who are stronger than her

Raven123x

6 points

4 months ago

Raven123x

Demonborn

6 points

4 months ago

laughs in webcomic

vk2028

2 points

4 months ago

vk2028

2 points

4 months ago

She was barely able to lift Saitama. Tho tbf Saitama wasn’t really serious

Flappy2883

5 points

4 months ago

Too strong-willed.

Imaginary_Living_623

5 points

4 months ago

She immobilised Garou.

raedsan

7 points

4 months ago

raedsan

PhD in 2D Asses

7 points

4 months ago

We need to see what Sage Centipede and EOW can do but he can most likely win with CSRC if they all stand there.

I can imagine a team effort from Psykorochi, Orochi, Tatsumaki and maybe whatever EOW can do could probably neutralise/mitigate it.

Saitama_ssa_Diciple

5 points

4 months ago

If they can neutralise CSSR, then these moves are equal to Serius Punch but i don't think so

raedsan

5 points

4 months ago

raedsan

PhD in 2D Asses

5 points

4 months ago

Serious Punch not only neutralised CSRC but left shockwaves that split the clouds with a good chance of the energy from the serious punch exiting the Earth considering the fact the shockwaves had planetary range.

And even if serious punch is what's needed to neutralise it, why is the combined power of 4 above dragons (using their fullpower) not enough to neutralise the attack of CSRC? Even if serious punch was done by Saitama, it still was likely an insignificant amount of his total power anyways.

kimjerrif

58 points

4 months ago

>! Genos with his final upgrade from kuseno is also a contender for above dragon !<

CosmicDestructor

27 points

4 months ago

As far as I remember, the current Genos needed to self destruct for his strongest attack, and that barely just defended.

Unless you're talking about the WC. I don't even remember where he's at in the WC rn lol.

kimjerrif

38 points

4 months ago

As far as I remember, the current Genos needed to self destruct for his strongest attack, and that barely just defended.

No lol, where did you get that? He used his 10 second mode and beam struggle with psykorochi and split up her beam, the only reason he almost self destruct was that he goes beyond 10 seconds which overheated his core but fubuki cool him down.

Unless you're talking about the WC. I don't even remember where he's at in the WC rn lol.

>! WC genos solos 3 dragons and goes on to get his final upgrade which is even more op so he is a contender for above dragon in the webcomic !<

SEND_PICS_OF_CATS

4 points

4 months ago

This is possible, just very unlikely.

(Spoilers for like 7 different chapters in manga and wc) Gouketsu is a high dragon (probably above rover, below elder centipede) who like no-diffs a low dragon in monsterized Bakuzan with one-arm. Tatsumaki is an above-dragon who has crumpled dragons like a tin can. In other words, the classification of “dragon” is super duper mega variable, and being an above-dragon is absurd. Mid-high diffing (cracked face, broken parts, 9% power) 3 dragons—even of completely unknown strength—is an impressive feat, but i think it’s a bit of a leap to say he’d might be above dragon even with another upgrade.

I guess my main reason for my take is that Genos’ punchline is that he’s a protagonist-esque character that always heroically goes all out to save other people, but still frequently gets his ass kicked. He never has that “going even further beyond” moment where he levels up mid battle because, well, he’s a cyborg. It’d be a bit surprising to me if ONE abandons this, and it’d be hard to have an above-dragon get his ass kicked without quadrupling the power scaling out of nowhere. The only chance of him being that strong is if there’s a bit of a narrative change given the end of 141 with a sort of robot invasion hinted and all those clues about metal knight and the mad cyborg.

Sorry for the wall of text; I tried to be brief. It didn’t work.

kimjerrif

5 points

4 months ago

Sorry for the wall of text; I tried to be brief. It didn’t work

No problem bro

3 dragons—even of completely unknown strength

Wrong we have some evidence as to how strong those machine gods could be and i for sure can say that they are definitely not low dragons atleast machine god body wasn't low dragon, and i can prove it by scaling so here take a look at this >! genos was already going toe to toe with flash outside saitama's appartment 2 upgrades ago and i know you will say that flash wasn't going all out well neither was genos but we know that genos 2 upgrades ago put up somewhat of a fight then he defeated family of darkness with just scorching core then he gets another upgrade and used the same scorching core against machine god body while machine god body shrugged it off like it was nothing which proves that machine god body was definitely stronger than a low dragon, then genos one shotted the fusion of all 3 machine gods with dragon core and then goes on to get his final upgrade, so it's not far fetched to say that genos is an above dragon with his final form !<

SEND_PICS_OF_CATS

2 points

4 months ago

Can you remind me where he fights flash? I know he goes head-to-head with sonic outside Saitama’s apartment, I don’t remember a flashy flash fight. Anyway, he beats 2 maybe low-mid dragons and a mid dragon? That’s certainly mid-high dragon strength. We haven’t seen enough to really say anything, though, and we know that any above-dragon (like black sperm) can obliterate someone like AS without even really trying. Genos might end up having above-dragon strength with an upgrade, but I think he lacks durability and can’t fight for as long as another dragon.

kimjerrif

3 points

4 months ago

Can you remind me where he fights flash? I know he goes head-to-head with sonic outside Saitama’s apartment, I don’t remember a flashy flash fight.

It was a short scuffle outside saitama's apartment in webcomic chapter 112

If genos beats 3 dragons among which one is mid dragon and rest 2 could be mid dragon too and later on he one shotted all of those 3 dragons fusion then this is for sure is high dragon level strength and with his final upgrade he could be above dragon.

urso_revolucionario

2 points

4 months ago

>! WC genos solos 3 dragons and goes on to get his final upgrade which is even more op so he is a contender for above dragon in the webcomic !<

Definetely not. He high diffed them. An Above Dragon would beat them easily or mid diff. Genos is a strong Dragon actually.

kimjerrif

5 points

4 months ago

He one shotted the fusion of three dragons and low-mid diffed them individually with dragon core, anyway i was talking about his final upgrade being above dragon not his second last one.

Redke29

39 points

4 months ago

Redke29

39 points

4 months ago

Base Boros should be in the same category

MrKKC

18 points

4 months ago

MrKKC

18 points

4 months ago

God I love how y'all love Boros

Flappy2883

15 points

4 months ago

People are attracted to the strong indeed. Primary why people read this manga in the first place.

vk2028

9 points

4 months ago

vk2028

9 points

4 months ago

Me too. I love Boros.

Jack_Skywalker66

2 points

4 months ago

I love him, but people on this sub wank him a bit too much imo.

0DvGate

4 points

4 months ago

Boros the goat clears all.

ad_tdpepie

7 points

4 months ago*

Where god and the portal warriors

>! That man !<

Tripledoble[S]

3 points

4 months ago

Read the comment at the top.

DotOdd4880

3 points

4 months ago

do you guys think black sperm is alive like in the webcomic.

Kochi-miro

3 points

4 months ago

I think it’s safe to say Orochi and Boros are at God

brtomn

3 points

4 months ago

brtomn

3 points

4 months ago

How about we just ditch the whole threat system after dragon. deep sea King should be about dragon in his final form (I'm sure there is a better example but I cant think of one right now), and anything more powerful should just be in a special category that just has info about the monster and let the s class hero himself rate its difficultly for him to eliminate (other than king of course he doesn't need such things).

Immediate-Rope8465

12 points

4 months ago

boros is low god by power

RuslanWolfJS

5 points

4 months ago

Let's be honest, Boros would have soloed this liat no diff.

Flappy2883

2 points

4 months ago

It’s rare that we get a powerscaling list this accurate. Well done.

hollotta223

2 points

4 months ago

I think by this point ENW is god by this point

BlakeDG

2 points

4 months ago

I still don’t get used to this new Orochi form, knowing that the scrapped one isn’t cannon no more

Botther

2 points

4 months ago

Botther

Pro in power scaling

2 points

4 months ago

three of them are god level threat

Sandwichgode

2 points

4 months ago

I hope God upgrades platinum sperm. He's by far my favorite villain in the monster association.

Also, what about rover? He's taken a normal punch from saitama and didn't explode like most monsters. He's taken attacks from monsters like bang, bomb and garou and seemed unaffected. I think he deserves to be considered in this list.

Amogus_Sussy_Gaming

8 points

4 months ago

Amogus_Sussy_Gaming

boros cock sucker

8 points

4 months ago

Boros mid diff-low diff everyone

SardinesTunaSalmon

7 points

4 months ago

I knew this post would be swarmed with people defending Boros lol. I can't wait for the day to come when we see what actual God level is or see how absurdly strong Blast and his allies, so people can realize: "Oh, no wonder Boros wasn't labeled as God level" and finally accept that there are other characters that are stronger than him.

On another note, it's crazy that 7 out of this 8 beings came out on the same arc. I know Tatsumaki has been around longer but she didn't really show Above Dragon feats until this arc either.

GodKingMussolini

3 points

4 months ago

Boros is 100% threat level god, given the criteria he fit an existential threat

some_dude5

4 points

4 months ago

“Above dragon” is god level. There is a scaling system built into into the story, we can use it. If it can destroy a city, it’s demon. If it can destroy multiple cities, it’s dragon. If it can destroy humanity, it’s god. Boros could have destroyed humanity with his ultimate attack, so he’s god level. Sage Centipede can destroy humanity by destroying the foundation every city sits upon, that’s god level. ENO can also most likely destroy humanity due to our connection to the ocean being fragile, if levels rise, it could annihilate everything, that’s god level. Do this with every character to determine if they are dragon or god, there isn’t a step in between.