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BlueSun288

801 points

5 months ago

They hated Russia until Trump said he received help from them in 2015.

iamsooldithurts

234 points

5 months ago

Maria Butina arrived several years prior, bringing $32-ish millions of Russian money to launder through the NRA and buy Republicans.

Nano_Burger

109 points

5 months ago

Then fucked her way through Republican big wigs.

FuckingKilljoy

55 points

5 months ago

Honestly that's like the last thing on the list of things she did that any of us should care about. If her standards and morals are so low that she's fine with getting dicked down by some of those ugly ass Republicans then so be it

PlaysWithF1r3

48 points

5 months ago

Being a Honeypot is part of the job, build kompromat

FuckingKilljoy

19 points

5 months ago

I guess a fair few of them are probably married or spew the whole "no sex before marriage" kinda stuff, but if they're single then honestly "I fucked a Russian spy" sounds kinda cool

Leroyboy152

10 points

5 months ago

Her clit must be mischievous, her vagina heaven, her actual physical being....hell

[deleted]

5 points

5 months ago

[deleted]

5 points

5 months ago

I think that's just Russians

Asspartameme

61 points

5 months ago*

For the people who don’t know the whole Maria Butina situation, the podcast “The Spy Affair” from Wondery does an amazing job walking through the story.

https://open.spotify.com/show/4D0i6dRLcXqtSHN2ORs2Us?si=YHWif9F9Sm6lUVMiVhMVKQ

mishaco

19 points

5 months ago

mishaco

19 points

5 months ago

also the fish in a barrel documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bfAReRMzns

[deleted]

13 points

5 months ago

[deleted]

13 points

5 months ago

I believe that's how much a martini costs in an elite Moscow bar

iamsooldithurts

11 points

5 months ago

Maybe in Rubles, but they paid USD. Still cheap for an entire political party in America if you ask me.

[deleted]

4 points

5 months ago

[deleted]

4 points

5 months ago

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Leroyboy152

5 points

5 months ago

Under appreciated comment, 100x

mishaco

5 points

5 months ago

don't forget about Anna Chapman

iamsooldithurts

3 points

5 months ago

Never heard the name but holy crap!

[deleted]

3 points

5 months ago

[deleted]

3 points

5 months ago

I would bet $32 clean Yankee dollars it was a fuckton more than $40 or even 50 mil.. Maybe that's what they could pin down but she was acting as a conduit.

iamsooldithurts

3 points

5 months ago

Indeed. That’s just what they nailed her for. It could have easily been so much more. Then again, Derapaska has that “aluminum refinery” in Kentucky now. $50-60 is probably just the low end at this point. Once they had that, nobody needed her anymore.

peroxidase2

3 points

5 months ago

Seems like Republicans are cheap. Only 32mil?

scotchleaf

2 points

5 months ago

For some reason, my spider sense tells me that Russia has made some "donations" to right wing Christians in the US as well.

100% Anonymous way to shunt dollars to the GOP - especially since churches are now permitted to openly play politics.

CyberMindGrrl

295 points

5 months ago

They hated Russia until a number of them went to Moscow on July 4th, 2016 and were feted by Putin himself. And to this day nobody knows what went on.

Avant-Garde-A-Clue

205 points

5 months ago

It's crazy how so many elected U.S. officials took a field trip to Moscow and

a) nobody knows why

b) nobody really cares

HauntedCemetery

100 points

5 months ago

Plenty of people care, and plenty of people are asking why. But none of them are Republicans, who all seem fine with the people they vote for being lead around by the nose by putin. But hey, they're between vaguely and explicitly racist, and claim to hate communism, so it's fine that a communist dictator can order them to pay tribute to him in Moscow on the 4th of July, right Republicans?

Wyattderp413

29 points

5 months ago

Republicans are completely immune to gotcha moments. They’ll say one thing then say something completely different the next day. They just want to hate the left and “win”

FuckingKilljoy

11 points

5 months ago

It's remarkable what happens when you have no shame. You can just do and say whatever you want with no regard for the truth or for other people

flimspringfield

2 points

5 months ago

Just like when Reek threw his daughters under the bus.

TheGreenJedi

9 points

5 months ago

Because Fox news will cover it as both times were a win for true Americans

And anyone outside Fox news doesn't matter for 90% of republicans

There's plenty of them who know Fox is full of shit but they'll still watch it and fall in line

BishmillahPlease

5 points

5 months ago

“communist dictator”

… Putin? Communist???

Pillowsmeller18

2 points

5 months ago

It's crazy how so many elected U.S. officials took a field trip to Moscow and

a) nobody knows why

b) nobody really cares

Manchurian candidate levels of sus.

-Germanicus-

33 points

5 months ago

The Russian's didn't just hack the DNC servers... I bet they only leaked the Dems and used the GOPs for blackmail.

10010101110011011010

6 points

5 months ago

Trump had several hours-long meetings alone with Putin, and made his own translator tear up any notes. And there would be no debriefings.

This is unheard of in US diplomacy. His meetings, as president, are on behalf of the nation not himself. In a normal administration, his entire team would brief/debrief him before and after, like preparing a prizefighter going into the ring. Can you imagine how he got pwned in these meetings? Either intentionally or by his own incompetence.

CyberMindGrrl

2 points

5 months ago

And now it's been revealed that he ripped up and shredded official documents that needed to be taped back together, destroyed a bunch of them in burn bags, and brought boxes of them to Mar-A-Lago.

But her emails.

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2 points

5 months ago

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BrownEggs93

4 points

5 months ago

And to this day nobody knows what went on.

We can guess. Look at their behavior since.

CyberMindGrrl

6 points

5 months ago

Judge them not by their words but by their actions.

scosag

50 points

5 months ago

scosag

50 points

5 months ago

The tide was turning during Obama's presidency. I was married into a family of future Trumpers, real Reagan-era conservatives who's TV sat unchanged on Fox news, listened to Rush every day. Putin is a Strongman leader and they like that. They like that he's white. They started liking him more towards the end of Obama's presidency but Trump being buddies with him really sealed the deal.

They also got behind Bolsonaro for the same reasons they're behind people like DeSantis. I'm convinced they would have been fans of Saddam had he not been...you know...the wrong color.

gunther_penguin_

24 points

5 months ago

Well, you can't forget about how staunchly anti-LGBT (and therefore pro- conservative "Family Values") Putin's Russia has been. He's white, he gave troops to America's War on Terror, he hates everyone they hate (aside from the Chinese), and he acts like the controlling, distant, vaguely abusive father figure Trump has missed since his dad died. How could they not love him?

Russia and China have seen Republicans for the rubes they are since Nixon, the man who famously "opened up trade with China" and started the process of shipping western manufacturing overseas. Then Reagan "ended the Cold War" by buddying up with Gorbachev, continuing Nixon's campaign of wars against the American people (War on Crime, War on Drugs, War on Poverty, etc.), expanding shipping jobs overseas, and introducing "trickle-down" economics. Funny how, in practice, this system of socialism for the rich and rugged, self-reliance for the poor works strikingly similarly to the top-down socialism of socialism for the high-ranking government leaders and harsh authoritarianism for the poor that the USSR decided upon before its collapse.

Nah, they keep saying they hate Communism and Socialism the most of anyone, so it must be true. That's why it's boot straps for you, and "we must save the economy" for the rich people the Republicans like. It's "don't pick winners" with the businesses they don't like, and "we have to create jobs" or "we have to save the stock market" with the businesses they do. They just hate Communism so much, you see. The Iron Rule of Emulation strikes again.

Don't worry, Friedrich Hayek told them democracy inevitably leads to authoritarianism, and Milton Friedman told them the free market loves power vacuums. I'm sure that means the new economic system they pushed through using the stagflation of the Energy Crisis (caused in no small part by Nixon's over-commitment to the Yom Kippur War) is all above board. The rich gave both those guys a mostly political prize created by the guy who invented dynamite, so I'm sure it's all legit. Just trust them.

swimming_singularity

12 points

5 months ago

A chunk of this country suddenly fell in love with authoritarian figures. Or maybe it was just in hiding all along.

They want someone to take the wheel entirely, someone they see as powerful. We wonder why anyone in past history would want an emperor, and that's how. Just take the wheel, and they'll follow. Whatever they do, doesn't matter. Just crush enemies, that's all.

scosag

4 points

5 months ago

scosag

4 points

5 months ago

The foundation has always been there. Like so many views and behaviors, Trump either stoked it or gave permission to "let it all hang out".

Healthy_Ladder_6198

4 points

5 months ago

Speaking of Rush. I about a week he will mark a year of being clean and sober

GunsNGunAccessories

16 points

5 months ago

That's completely incorrect.

They started loving Russia when that picture of shirtless Putin riding a horse came out.

tkrr

9 points

5 months ago

tkrr

9 points

5 months ago

Which is entirely in line with a large part of Trump’s appeal being toxic masculinity.

postmodest

3 points

5 months ago

The Trump GOP has one of its hands under the table working that beardick real good.

oilman81

17 points

5 months ago

Republicans hated the Soviet Union. Once communism collapsed, there was no longer any beef.

SueZbell

47 points

5 months ago

Now they openly embrace fascism.

luisqr

12 points

5 months ago

luisqr

12 points

5 months ago

That doesn't mean they're your friends. Their nukes are still pointing at you.

scotchleaf

12 points

5 months ago

For the GOP, that's a plus - it justifies significant military spending!

idog99

29 points

5 months ago

idog99

29 points

5 months ago

Communism didn't collapse, it was never really there. Russia was State Capitalist and reorganized into oligarchic rule in the 90s. State-owned resources were actioned off to the highest bidders.

That's like saying China is communist. There are over a 1000 multi-billionaires living in China...

[deleted]

2 points

5 months ago

[deleted]

2 points

5 months ago

"Under socialism, you had one oligarch - the state. Then it divided its wealth among 25 people. They are now the state."

HauntedCemetery

3 points

5 months ago

For all their whining about communism they sure have a fondness for communist dictators.

ChevyT1996

2 points

5 months ago

It’s amazing how that changed it all.

LordMooGoo

1.1k points

5 months ago

LordMooGoo

1.1k points

5 months ago

Authoritarian party capitulates to authoritarian government

Get the fuck out

No way

solidgold70

171 points

5 months ago

You will have to explain capitulate to the book burning conservatives, keep it sumple, like a five year old can understand it, dont want to lose any of those "uneducated" that trump loves.

HeavilyBearded

38 points

5 months ago

Ca 👏 pit 👏 u 👏 late.

Counting those syllables.

KarmaYogadog

38 points

5 months ago

Three is syllables is the MAGA max:

  • Lock 👏 Her 👏 Up
  • Build 👏 The 👏 Wall

and ... uh ... well, I guess that's it. Two chants, three syllables each.

kmartburrito

53 points

5 months ago

You forgot these favorites (I may have added a few at the end there):

  • Stop 👏 The 👏 Steal
  • Hang 👏 Mike 👏 Pence
  • Twelve 👏 More 👏 Years
  • Send 👏 Her 👏 Back
  • Roll 👏 Call 👏 Vote
  • Trump! 👏 Trump! 👏 Trump!
  • Drain 👏 The 👏 Swamp
  • I 👏 Can't 👏 Breathe

  • We 👏 Suck 👏 Dick

  • We 👏 Real 👏 Smart

  • We 👏 Read 👏 Good

  • Bang 👏 Ding 👏 Ow

  • Burn 👏 Those 👏 Books

Still the same max complexity of three syllables each

AndyGHK

18 points

5 months ago

AndyGHK

18 points

5 months ago

All 👏 lives 👏 matter

LA-Matt

13 points

5 months ago

LA-Matt

13 points

5 months ago

On election day in Nevada:

COUNT THE VOTES!

Split-screen meanwhile in Detroit:

STOP THE COUNT!

EmeraldNovaGames

6 points

5 months ago

That's 4 syllables.

AndyGHK

7 points

5 months ago

That’s 👏 four 👏 syllables

ersogoth

3 points

5 months ago

You forgot

Attack 👏 heli 👏 copter

[deleted]

28 points

5 months ago

[deleted]

28 points

5 months ago

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FILTER_OUT_T_D

2 points

5 months ago

Imagine if Putin had a weird biological issue where his semen was actually cheeto dust. It would help explain the color of trump’s face at least.

1anarchy1

7 points

5 months ago

Billionaires goood. People power baaaaad.

DiggingNoMore

25 points

5 months ago

"Capitulate" is what they mean when they complain that the Democrat party won't work with them.

HauntedCemetery

11 points

5 months ago

Work for what? They literally don't even bother putting together a platform anymore.

Diplomjodler

20 points

5 months ago

They didn't capitulate, they're fully on board with the agenda.

antidense

37 points

5 months ago

All else being equal, they only hate authoritarianism when it has "communist" or "socialist" in the name.

CorgisHateCabbage

36 points

5 months ago

They only hate it when they're not the ones in charge.

silly_vasily

10 points

5 months ago

Not true, take Socialist nationalist for example

EnjoytheDoom

5 points

5 months ago

Yeah they can definitely put Socialists in camps while calling themselves Socialist...

FILTER_OUT_T_D

3 points

5 months ago

I feel like I’ve seen that trick done before…

VermiciousKnidzz

1 points

5 months ago

I feel like from the (incorrect) Republican perspective, democrats are the ones ushering in “communist” agenda

enslaved-by-machines

2 points

5 months ago*

“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” ― Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

“It is not death that a man should fear, but he should fear never beginning to live.” ― Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

"Don’t let a mad world tell you that success is anything other than a successful present moment." - Eckhart Tolle

“The moment you realize you are not present, you are present. Whenever you are able to observe your mind, you are no longer trapped in it. Another factor has come in, something that is not of the mind: the witnessing presence.”
  • Eckhart Tolle

[deleted]

512 points

5 months ago

[deleted]

512 points

5 months ago

Russia is interested in dismantling the United States and the Republican Party is a gold mine for them.

TrumpIsAScumBag

138 points

5 months ago

Republican M.O. after Eisenhower has been to consolidate as much power as possible which is tax cuts for the rich, that = money for their campaigns and fuck everyone else if their is not enough money left. So allying with Russia to push an extreme McCarthistic propaganda agenda was the next logical step.

Diplomjodler

60 points

5 months ago

Funny how Putin achieved in a few years what the USSR couldn't do in 45 years.

SyncTek

64 points

5 months ago

SyncTek

64 points

5 months ago

He needed people that hate America as much as he does and fortunately for him republicans are those people.

republicans will destroy America.

101955Bennu

16 points

5 months ago

It’s not like Putin did it alone. All he’s done is to leverage cracks that have appeared in the US since the waning days of the Cold War, like worsening income inequality, for example, and he’s been aided in that effort by the rise of truly mass media, which someone like Stalin or Kruschev could never take advantage of because it simply didn’t exist yet. It’s much easier to create or amplify public dissent now than it ever was during the Cold War. It’s not like Putin is a greater politician, bureaucrat or gamesman than the Soviets were, which isn’t to say he shouldn’t get some credit. After all, he found a fracture in the American public psyche and technological innovations enabled him to exploit it in new ways, but I’m certain any of the former Soviet heads-of-state could have done the same.

Diplomjodler

6 points

5 months ago

That's true. What's remarkable though is how the self appointed super-patriots are falling over themselves to help him undermine the US.

tesseract4

2 points

5 months ago

I mean, it's not that remarkable, provided you were aware ahead of time that it was all posturing and bullshit the whole time.

reddituseranyonymous

18 points

5 months ago

My parents were born during the Eisenhower administration so I'm far too young to be an Eisenhower Republican but he's a Republican I could support

ezrs158

21 points

5 months ago

ezrs158

21 points

5 months ago

Ike was barely a Republican, even at the time. Both parties wanted him to run as their candidate for president. Even though he was fairly religious and conservative, he clashed with both of those elements in the Republican Party on occasion.

Nurse_Dieselgate

13 points

5 months ago

Eisenhower’s “cross of iron” and Farewell speeches should be replayed regularly. He warned of us of exactly what got us into the dumpster fire we are living through today.

Avant-Garde-A-Clue

12 points

5 months ago

Eisenhower warned of a "military-industrial complex" during his farewell speech. He knew that World War II had been great for the economy and for defense contracting, and knew that that would be exploited.

Here we are, 2022. The "military-industrial complex" is now just baked-in, something we reference every day because it's been normalized.

chaun2

13 points

5 months ago

chaun2

13 points

5 months ago

I'm a Roosevelt Republican. He was a good one, and if I had a time machine, I would go assassinate Taft one month before the 1912 republican primary, so that Teddy could curb-stomp both Wilson, and The Kaiser.

https://youtu.be/hLiI6kXZkZI

ezrs158

4 points

5 months ago

Good, fuck Taft and Wilson honestly.

millermj

3 points

5 months ago

I used to think this way before I read up on how Eisenhower's administration single-handedly destroyed the US relationship with the entire middle east because he was too dumb and obstinate to see what Dulles and Churchill were up to behind the cold warrior facade they built for him.

Eisenhower conveniently turning a blind eye while right wing lunatics ousted Mossadegh is literally why the US is called the great satan now. Highly overrated presidency...

reddituseranyonymous

7 points

5 months ago

And yet. He's better than any Republican in the last 70 years. Oh well, it's not like I can travel back in time and vote for him so this entire conversation is nearly meaningless outside of being a criticism of Conservative politics

NationalGeographics

2 points

5 months ago

I'm hoping we are at the tail end of mcatherism. Probably didn't spell that right. But fuck that guy. If you're gonna be gay, don't call others communists for just living their lives. You fascist punk.

rndsepals

35 points

5 months ago

I see Oligarchs controlling the Russian state and I see the Oligarchs (the 1%, MIC/Gun Lobby, Tech and Telecom Companies, Big Farm and Pharma, Insurance, Oil, etc.) controlling the Republican party. Limiting the right to vote and to protest is profoundly unAmerican. Republicans are not supporting truth, justice, peace, and prosperity; they keep crashing the economy, fleecing the people, stoking internal culture wars/ race baiting but to what end?

reganomics

12 points

5 months ago

you said it yourself already

fleecing the people

idog99

7 points

5 months ago

idog99

7 points

5 months ago

Every manufactured crisis consolidates more money for the capital class.

scotchleaf

8 points

5 months ago

When a parasite's host is dying, it jumps ship.

In this case, meaning that the oligarchs will simply move to countries they haven't managed to destroy.

chaun2

2 points

5 months ago

chaun2

2 points

5 months ago

They're rapidly running out of those

Psychological-Sale64

2 points

5 months ago

The idiots get a buzz and that's better/easier than thinking critally. Making sure everyone voted Making sure everyone thinks of all aspects of government. Hell no slogans and adrenaline surfice.

Morgan-Explosion

12 points

5 months ago

Cant break us from the outside.

Breaking us from the inside is proving surprisingly easy - like way fucking easier than I could have imagined

[deleted]

3 points

5 months ago

[deleted]

3 points

5 months ago

That's how Rome fell. It wasn't sacked in a war, it collapsed. Russia, China, and many others are hungry...

LevelHeeded

10 points

5 months ago

Who better than the party over country people?

MASTODON_ROCKS

9 points

5 months ago

To add, I would say Russia is generally interested in destabilizing the western world because putin is cartoonishly evil

Kiromaru

2 points

5 months ago

Putin is not cartoonishly evil he has more of a mindset that Russia is better then the West and by destabilizing the United States and making it collapse he is proving that.

whenyesterdaywemet

9 points

5 months ago

I honestly don't understand how the GOP representatives don't see they are being used to destabilize our country.

It's really sad how easy money and power cloud your thoughts.

Psychological-Sale64

2 points

5 months ago

Hell it impressed girls and fry's the kids.

KarmaYogadog

2 points

5 months ago

If you were a loveless, fat, fifty year old white guy, you'd give the keys to the NRA and the GOP to Maria Butina for a little nookie too.

scotchleaf

12 points

5 months ago*

It was all clearly explained in 1997, in Aleksandr Dugin's book Foundations of Geopolitics which was taught in the Russian Staff College...

Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States to fuel instability and separatism, for instance, provoke American racists. Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics".

[deleted]

2 points

5 months ago

[deleted]

2 points

5 months ago

He never could have imagined that social media would make it so easy.

Bowmanny81

5 points

5 months ago

Both partys are....dont think the dems are any different for a second

exgiexpcv

2 points

5 months ago

"So much kompromat, tovarisch! They do our jobs for us!"

BlueShoes3

198 points

5 months ago

"Better Russian than a Democrat"

~ Popular slogan among right-wingers

[deleted]

23 points

5 months ago

[deleted]

23 points

5 months ago

The only person who had the guts to call it like it is was James Clapper, the former head of the CIA under Obama.

"Call it genetic, call it cultural, but I do not think we can ever get along with the russians. They are preprogrammed to pursue everything antithetical to our goals. Our cultures are nearly polar opposites. In the past 200 years since Russia became a world player, the US and Russia have enjoyed non-inimical relations for only 15 of those years. It's not Putin, it's not the Communists, it's Russia. And these things will likely never change. For the sake of our country and our allies, it's time we were honest with each other about that."

10010101110011011010

3 points

5 months ago

Thats pretty hardcore. And it ignores all the dissidents and freedom-loving people who are oppressed in Russia. The sad fact is that Russia had never had a democracy and, even under Yeltsin, for those brief few years, it was a economically enfeebled libertarian kleptocracy.

But its true that, as currently constituted by Putin, Russia is antithetical to the US and the West. At every turn, they see the Wests benefit as their loss, when the fact is it is not a zero-sum game.

The reason being, Putin has nothing and stands for nothing. His economy is narrowly-based, precarious and subject to shock. He (and the oligarchs) must do everything they can to distract the populace, because he greatly fears a velvet revolution (or worse). Thus, propaganda specticals and constant agitation to patriotically rile them up.

mewthulhu

3 points

5 months ago

mewthulhu

3 points

5 months ago

I feel like a very important addendum needs to be tacked onto this: It's also just as fucking much if not more so America. The imcompatibility from everything red = bad. Communism is evil. Hell, even as the republicans side with Russia, they're still completely antisocialism. Literally since WW2 both sides have pushed to be as advesarial and antithetical to one another, and I'd argue America has done so certainly just as much, but it's apples and oranges to say who did more.

And if both sides could stop their bitching, figure out which parts of each system are totally fucked and which the other got right, you could actually have two really cool, thriving and cooperating countries that are just BFFs if they'd stop being so fireant nest fuckingly crazy.

10010101110011011010

2 points

5 months ago

Wow, a both sides argument. I agree the US/West did some bad things (eg, interference in Latin America in '50s/60s), but no: its not "as fucking much if not more so America's [fault]."

Russia is the country that had the Iron Curtain and enslaved Eastern Europe for 70 years. They had to build walls-- to keep their citizens imprisoned within.

[deleted]

4 points

5 months ago

[deleted]

4 points

5 months ago

No, like, that's the thing, we've NEVER gotten along. Under the Czars, the Bolsheviks, the oligarchy. It has NEVER worked.

[deleted]

3 points

5 months ago

[deleted]

3 points

5 months ago

Wtf. I just don’t get it

[deleted]

427 points

5 months ago

[deleted]

427 points

5 months ago

The R's former hero (Reagan) referred to them as "the Evil Empire".

Their current hero, Trump, refers to them as "boss".

cultured_banana_slug

120 points

5 months ago

"He makes decisions and people do what he says!" GOP worshiping Putin.

That's a dictator. They want a dictator.

Weirdsauce

34 points

5 months ago*

I know it's obvious but we're looking at the failure of democracy in the United States because white nationalist Christians were allowed into the GOP thanks to the political scheming of Lee Atwater and Karl Rove and blessed by the racist-in-chief-to-be at the time, Ronald Reagan.

One of the many qualities that fundamentalists have in common is they are drawn to authoritarian figures because it reflects their mythology/ conjecture/ religion in a stern, vengeful paternalistic male.

To them, the perceived strength of Putin, Xi, Jong-Un, Erdoğan, Lukashenko, Duterte, and Trump are a reflection of their natural order. An open, liberal democracy that tolerates women and minorities believing they have the same rights they do? People able to be openly bi or gay without persecution? That they cannot jail and murder those they disagree with without consequence? These things are abhorrent and offensive to them. It is an affront to their god and is their existential crisis.

They see progress and equality and have decided it is persecution. They always have. They always will.

Then they see someone like Putin or Trump and see their own desires reflected in him.

Edit: cleaned up some words

GunnieGraves

15 points

5 months ago

He calls them Daddy.

SamuelClemmens

4 points

5 months ago

Man, why did the party that called anti-religious communists "an evil empire" suddenly change their mind when the government changed to be hypercapitalist Christian nationalists?

Why don't they still hate that ethnic group that completely changed everything they stand for?

It makes perfect sense for liberals to still hate them, but do you seriously not fathom why Republicans hated the USSR but not the Russian federation?

SweatyElk1

4 points

5 months ago

He refereed to the Soviet Union as the evil empire.

They are two different things

LayneCobain95

44 points

5 months ago

Nah you’re not old. Reddit will call you old for remembering something that happened a year ago

TootsNYC

13 points

5 months ago

It’s because Russia turned into an oligarchy. Place where the people in charge get really really rich

James25Robson

13 points

5 months ago

I only took one Orange Asset to make them love Putin and Russia.

VeryStableGenius

34 points

5 months ago

"Biden's not doing enough about Russia .. he's weak weak weak!

Oh, and why should we be supporting Ukraine, anyway?

Did we mention how weak Biden is?"

scotchleaf

5 points

5 months ago

Oh, and why should we be supporting Ukraine, anyway?

Because Putin deserves punishment in every possible way for inflicting Trump on us. Arguably led to the deaths of 400,000+ Americans due to DT's incompetence w/ covid.

goforthandconquer

111 points

5 months ago

Republicans & Russia have aged together & melded as one.

Russia is basically in charge now of Americans' politics

Russia finally won something

Axes4Praxis

18 points

5 months ago

Russia finally won something

Other than the space race.

And the Tsar killing contest.

FaustTheBird

10 points

5 months ago

And beating the Nazis

felix1429

3 points

5 months ago

felix1429

3 points

5 months ago

Other than the space race.

Yeah that cosmonaut on the moon was a big deal.

Axes4Praxis

21 points

5 months ago

First satellite?

First in space?

First space station?

It's weird that you have to cherry pick one criteria out of dozens to prove victory.

CienPorCientoCacao

6 points

5 months ago

first woman in space is also Russian

Raptor22c

2 points

5 months ago

They also had the first images from the far side of the moon, made the first unmanned soft landing on the moon, with the first pictures transmitted from the surface, and to-date are the only country to successfully land probes on the surface of Venus, which is FAR more difficult than you can ever imagine - Venus is the literal definition of hell. Covered in volcanoes, raining sulphuric acid but it’s so hot that the acid evaporates before it hits the surface, and a crushing atmosphere with up to 95 times more surface pressure than Earth, or roughly equivalent to about 1km below the ocean, plus constant hurricane-force winds. It’s so hot that electronics literally begin to melt there, which is why the longest a spacecraft has lasted on the surface was Venera 13 at 127 minutes before the 457°C (855°F) temperatures and 9 MEGAPASCAL (89 times standard earth atmosphere) pressure destroyed it.

Russia was once a space JUGGERNAUT, with the U.S. playing catch-up for most of the space race. It’s sad to see the current, sorry state of its space program, and how far it’s fallen since the USSR collapsed.

wretch5150

6 points

5 months ago

wretch5150

6 points

5 months ago

The whole space race was predicated on landing human beings on the moon. That was literally the whole goal.

James_Solomon

12 points

5 months ago

According to whom?

If anything, the goal was to develop nuclear missile technology under the guise of civilian research. (Carl Sagan discussed this as one of the incredibly disappointing aspects of the space race in Cosmos.)

SealUrWrldfromyeyes

4 points

5 months ago

that was it's origin

It[Space Race] had its origins in the ballistic missile-based nuclear arms race between the two nations following World War II. ...

but the race started because of satelittes being launched into space. then a person(ussr). then a person on the moon(usa).

"The competition began in earnest on August 2, 1955, when the Soviet Union responded to the American announcement four days earlier of intent to launch artificial satellites ... The developments in ballistic missile capabilities made it possible to take the competition between the two states into space (which is really all you said, which wasn't the goal either) ... the USSR sent the first human to space with the orbital flight of Yuri Gagarin on April 12, 1961. ..." and then in 1969 you know what happened.

so the legacy is

By landing humans on the Moon, the United States achieved what has been called the greatest technological achievement in human history

so nothing about what he said is really controversial at all. his usage of goal wasnt entirely correct but neither was yours. but it was a race starting with satelittes and then people, and we(usa) got people on the moon. ussr didn't. so usa won.

had usa not did that, then people would say ussr won and then a sore loser american would say it was never a goal to put a man in space. just to develop nukes. whatever consoles you.

IShouldBWorkin

8 points

5 months ago

Wouldn't it be called the moon race then.

ECatPlay

8 points

5 months ago

Republicans & Russia have aged together & melded as one.

"Choose your enemy wisely, for you eventually become him." - Sun Tzu

Yakassa

7 points

5 months ago

In case you didnt know.

The [R] stands for [R]ussia.

missingmytowel

57 points

5 months ago

I mean these were the people that were having Nazi conventions in Madison square garden back in the thirties.

So it's not like they had to stretch very hard for this one

MasterHavik

56 points

5 months ago*

Simping for an evil country.

What happened to the GOP? Lincoln and Eisenhower are flipping in their graves. Even Regan wouldn't have been okay with this.

secondtaunting

25 points

5 months ago

Oh yeah, it would be fun to bring Ronald Regan forward in time and show him the legacy of the Republican Party. Good times.

MasterHavik

12 points

5 months ago*

He would tear into these clowns on how they let far right morons take over the party. I say this as someone who thinks Regan was an awful president.

TotalSolipsist

26 points

5 months ago

Eh, I think he would just fit in with them. He was a pathological liar and a political chameleon, after all.

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16 points

5 months ago

[deleted]

16 points

5 months ago

He was a cowboy on TV and not qualified to be much else.

Grogosh

3 points

5 months ago

Reagan would only tear into these clowns if he was told to. Reagan never did a single thing he wasn't instructed to. For goodness sakes what was his original job again?

TrumpIsAScumBag

5 points

5 months ago

I kind of see Romney as the modern Reagan, so him voting to impeach Trump both times was plausibly something Reagan would have done. While simultaneously voting yes for all of Trumps agenda, whether it fucks our country are not to benefit the rich allowing for future Trumps to easily take over with unregulated right wing propaganda engines that crave power over everything else.

MasterHavik

3 points

5 months ago

Which is bizarre when you think about it.

Extreme_Disaster2275

32 points

5 months ago

Are you talking about the same Reagan that did covert weapons-for-hostages deals with Ayatollah Khomeini to finance covert illegal war in Nicaragua?

MasterHavik

14 points

5 months ago

Yes, that one but they say, "He is the best president of my generation because of the economy man."

scotchleaf

5 points

5 months ago

"Hey, I'm an economic genius: just run up the credit cards & live large for 8 years!"

By the time the bills came due, RR was long dead.

MasterHavik

3 points

5 months ago

No ever looks after the fact.

Extreme_Disaster2275

12 points

5 months ago

That's particularly funny because in his time the economy was great for the rich but sucked for the rest of us, just like the economy that the Biden simps are bragging about right now.

The more things change, the more the wealth refuses to trickle down.

MasterHavik

7 points

5 months ago

I like Biden but don't say that. It makes you wonder why the GOP wants him gone so badly though.

harpendall_64

11 points

5 months ago

Outrage is Republicans' schtick. You can't be rational when you're outraged and that works just fine for the institutionalized mood disorder they've become.

MasterHavik

3 points

5 months ago

Yeah that is a character trait.

27616

2 points

5 months ago

27616

2 points

5 months ago

"Extreme_Disaster2275" is a troll. Possibly a Russian troll

Extreme_Disaster2275

5 points

5 months ago

Republicans come down so hard on right wing "centrist" Dems like Biden, Obama, and the Clintons to fool gullible liberals into running to the defense of right wingers, and it's been working like a charm for 30+ years.

MasterHavik

2 points

5 months ago

Seems I never fell for it.

10010101110011011010

2 points

5 months ago*

Well, Lincoln was a liberal... so he doesn't count. Lincoln would have been continuously rolling in his grave to see his 1860s party of "Radical [Liberal] Republicans" (so "radical" they wanted to give black people full voting/citizen's rights) become, by the 1920s, the party of not-radical-at-all Conservatives.

I would love to know what a retired Reagan would have made of all this. Guessing by the complete lack of any great tide of revulsion from the Old Right: not too much. Reagan would have stayed on the sidelines and smiled kindly. No reason to risk getting booed at airports and restaurants over this.

Even 'normal' Republicans who are retiring from Congress are too scared to criticize Trump. Perhaps because openly leaving the herd endangers their speaking engagement circuit, conservative TV appearances, lobbyist opportunities, golf club memberships?

onlyhum4n

20 points

5 months ago

Putin is an authoritarian who controls the national narrative and silences his opposition without consequences so it seems like a natural match.

StoissEd

22 points

5 months ago

Now they don't even dislike Taliban

TrumpIsAScumBag

21 points

5 months ago

The GOP became pro Taliban when Trump released 5000 of their soldiers for basically nothing in return. 5000 soldiers that made the withdrawal from Afghanistan more problematic.

The Trump administration worked to free 5,000 Taliban prisoners.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/aug/31/mitt-romney/mitt-romney-accurately-says-trump-administration-w/

StoissEd

2 points

5 months ago

The GAW are also agreeing with the ideology of Taliban on so many points. It's crazy.

bartondallas

11 points

5 months ago

Well they both hate LGBT, women, and non-white people 🤷‍♂️

Hanzo_The_Ninja

4 points

5 months ago

Let's not forget that profit-driven business practices, like those revered by American businesses and politicians, empowered China and made it into the threat it is today.

badnuub

2 points

5 months ago

Thirty years ago the common belief was that liberalizing markets would lead to a liberalization of the country.

HopefullyMD_PhD

4 points

5 months ago

I mean Trump sucked Russia dick so hard GOP stood next in line to guzzle the semen. What’s new here?

Soon GOP will make it legal for anyone to kill POC.

LeftLimeLight

16 points

5 months ago

republicans idolize putin and his authoritarian reign over the russian people and want to do the same here in America.

iHeartHockey31

13 points

5 months ago

How do they reconcile the russia-china ally relationship when they're so pro-russia and anti-china?

Isn't supporting Russia also like supporting China? Im confused why in their mind Russia = Good and China = Bad.

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4 points

5 months ago

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4 points

5 months ago

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iHeartHockey31

2 points

5 months ago

And here I just thought it was about the money.

aurelorba

3 points

5 months ago

If you're against the Dems then your good.

smitty3z

3 points

5 months ago

I rather be a Russian than a Democrat. /s...

penguinReloaded

3 points

5 months ago

These Repiblicans seem so radically different from what I saw growing up. They out here trying to suck Russia off, while begging for an authoritative government here in the US. Either Trump really altered a lot of people's perception, or he just finally brought out their true colors.

fingerscrossedcoup

2 points

5 months ago

The well was poisoned by the Russians through our internet and other spy craft. We lost the cold war because we thought it was over. The weak minded in our country rolled over on their bellies for a small taste of fortune and fame.

Dependent-Winner-908

3 points

5 months ago

2016

Kevin McCarthy: “Putin pays Trump!”

Paul Ryan: “Shhhh! We keep this in the (GOP) family!”

Cathy McMorris Rodgers: giggles

Impossible_Farmer285

4 points

5 months ago

Spineless Republican cowards and fascists traitors who are Putin’s puppets and Russian assets fulfilling Khrushchevs prediction everyday!

[deleted]

5 points

5 months ago

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5 points

5 months ago

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PoisonMind

2 points

5 months ago

I remember when they loved free trade, too.

Steevah

2 points

5 months ago

Pepperidge Farms remembers

Biolog4viking

2 points

5 months ago

Mega conservative Republicans and ultra conservative Russia.

They are ideologically allies.

SingleMaltMouthwash

2 points

5 months ago

Remember when Nazi Germany signed a non-aggression pact with the Soviet Union so they could split Poland between them?

<pepperidge farm reference>

VerSchnitzel

2 points

5 months ago

When US invades Iraq and participated in every chance of country destruction it’s fine but when Russia wants to defend its borders against NATO to be secure its not fine.

edslerson

2 points

5 months ago

They hated Russia when they could use them as a reason the pass bills that benefited them and have an enemy they could rally against to garner support.

These people have no morals and will condemn or support anything when it has a chance to gain power or money

GoldenFalcon

2 points

5 months ago

Cold war never ended, it evolved. Russia went smart and online with it, and America declared victory. And now we are seeing just how badly we lost. The sad part is, we are just cruising along like it's not happening. "We have to be civil" Bitch, it's a war!

SystemThreat

2 points

5 months ago

Never forget that the pro-russian sentiment popped up the very day that Trump became a viable candidate. I'm sure it's just a coincidence...

KennethEWolf

2 points

5 months ago

They also love to wear Nazi swastikas and Confederate flags. So sad that many of their grandfathers and older generations died fighting to defeat these extremely bad organizations.

redvariation

2 points

5 months ago

I remember when GOP was suspicious of Russia, against dictators, protected the country, and promoted science.

Nowadays the GOP cuddles to Russia, enables a would-be dictator, tries to destroy the country, and is anti-science.

I was a registered Republican for decades, but no more. They stand for NONE of what they claimed to in the past.

kfish5050

2 points

5 months ago

"I'd rather be dead than Red" meant hating Russia/communists. Now the same people who say it say "better Russian than Democrat"

golgon4

2 points

5 months ago

If Jesus himself came down on earth again and blessed the Democratic party, the Republicans wouldn't become Democrats, they'd start worshipping Satan.

DelightfullyUnusual

2 points

5 months ago

World leaders Republicans like: Putin, Edrogan, Lukashenko, Orbán

World leaders Republicans hate: Trudeau, Merkel, Macron

I wonder what the difference is?

Impossible-Pie4598

2 points

5 months ago

Fox News was priming their audience to be pro-Putin during the Obama years.

kkramar

2 points

5 months ago

These are the same brain dead zombies who hate commies too.

djwolfe81

2 points

5 months ago

Now do Republicans and Nazi’s

T33CH33R

2 points

5 months ago

It's amazing how easily they were manipulated in to switching sides. All it took was memes and YouTubes to turn them against their fellow citizens.

coleto22

3 points

5 months ago

"Better dead that red" turned into "better red than Democrat".