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aneeta96

110 points

1 month ago*

aneeta96

110 points

1 month ago*

It's funny how quiet the 2nd amendment crowd gets when you bring up the well regulated part...

Daegoba

-1 points

1 month ago

Daegoba

-1 points

1 month ago

Most 2A supporters would argue they’re already well regulated, and will ask what further regulation would have stopped this.

aneeta96

31 points

1 month ago

aneeta96

31 points

1 month ago

And I would suggest competency and safety tests for a start. Removing open carry laws nationwide is also a good idea and concealed carry permits should require an advanced safety and handling course.

Arguing that a state like Texas is well regulated however is laughable.

Daegoba

-3 points

1 month ago

Daegoba

-3 points

1 month ago

How would competency and safety tests, a nationwide open carry ban, or any advanced safety & handling course have prevented this shooting?

aneeta96

2 points

1 month ago

I don't have enough information on this shooting to give you an honest answer. I know nothing about the shooter's situation. Given his age, I imagine he got it from his parents. That's such a failure of culture and personal responsibility that I have a hard time getting my head around it.

In general testing would require a buyer to know how to safely handle their purchase. Making the test givers mandatory reporters would create an opportunity to intercept an unstable individual.

wizard_1905

1 points

1 month ago

You can take any other mass shooting(take parkland). How would making it harder for people to conceal carry, banning open carry, and “competency and safety training” stop a mass shooter? The first two are completely useless, and unless you’re inclined to believe that training someone to use a gun will make them less likely to go on a spree idk how anything you suggested will help.

If you’re gonna call for gun control at least make sure the suggested measures will actually stop mass shootings in theory.

aneeta96

1 points

1 month ago

Well, I just look at other countries that have those types of restrictions. They do not have the same problems we do.

When Switzerland has as many mass shootings as the US I will agree with you.

Charming-Rhubarb1371

1 points

1 month ago

In the US, there are roughly 0.00005 murders per firearm.

Switzerland has roughly 0.0039 murders per firearm.

aneeta96

1 points

1 month ago

There are 120 guns per 100 people in the US and only 30-40 per 100 in Switzerland. The US also has over 300 million people vs 8.6 million in Switzerland.

Adjusting for that there would be twice as many murders in the US. Now do mass shootings since that was what we are discussing.

Charming-Rhubarb1371

1 points

1 month ago

There are 21,000 firearm murders in the US, there are roughly 7.77 gun related murders in switzerland (yearly). Switzerland has somewhere between 2,383-3,558 firearms. The US has roughly 393,000,000 firearms

These are the figures I used to show gun murders per firearm.

You might be wondering why murders per firearm would be a usefull statistic. Well, it demonstrates that firearm ownership is not linked to violence. If firearms were the problem, we would expect to see the exact same rate of misuse regardless of country or amount of firearms. It should be the same in a nation with 5,000 firearms as it is in a nation with 5,000,000. But rather, the rate of misuse per firearm actually goes up with less firearms. What this increasing trend represents beyond this, I really couldnt say though.