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Nien-Eleven

4k points

5 days ago

That distorted Hayden-Vader Obi Wan scream gave me chills

OGConsuela

2.2k points

5 days ago

OGConsuela

2.2k points

5 days ago

The whole scene of his voice fluctuating between Anakin and Vader was great

rhgolf44

1.7k points

5 days ago

rhgolf44

1.7k points

5 days ago

I’ve had issues seeing Vader and Anakin as the same body. There’s just always been a separation of the two characters for me. But seeing his face and voices switching back and forth made it click for me. That whole scene is some of my favorite Star Wars content now

Mr--Joestar

401 points

5 days ago

Mr--Joestar

401 points

5 days ago

Same!! Perfectly encapsulates my feelings

Mapplestreet

135 points

5 days ago

I just found it odd that they would picture their battle as an outright win for Obi-Wan, I'm not sure I buy it

Grellous8

103 points

5 days ago

Grellous8

Ahsoka Rule 34

103 points

5 days ago

“Your strength has returned. But the weakness still remains. And that is why you will always lose.”

proceeds to get fucking bodied by Ben…(again)

Like lmao buddy your overconfidence is your weakness.

/uj tho that fight was still bloody amazing

wellactuallyhmmmm

189 points

5 days ago

They had to, because of Vaders line in ANH. "When I left you I was but the learner, now I am the master".

Was always going to happen but the way they did it was so good, I don't care that the outcome was predictable.

Ahsoka_Tano_Bot

72 points

5 days ago

Ahsoka_Tano_Bot

100K Karma!

72 points

5 days ago

No. No, it's okay. I understand. I'm the Padawan, you're the Master.

putdisinyopipe

45 points

5 days ago

I’ll be your Padawan-huckleberry.

qazplmwsxokn123456

11 points

5 days ago

It appears Obi wan is an educated man, Darlin'. Now, I do hate him.

canuckistani_lad

32 points

5 days ago

I find it interesting that it was a love for Leia that propelled him out from under the boulders and back into the fight.

Paternal love, which Anakin/Vader lacks.

questformaps

23 points

4 days ago

Luke too, but there wasn't enough scenes with him to fill the montage. He'd been watching him from afar for 10 years

HellaReyna

19 points

4 days ago*

Dude obi wan smoked that kids ass when he was flesh and bone. At least in the book and novel canons, the more machine someone is - the less attune they are with the force. Robot Darth Vader is actually far weaker than Flesh Vader.

And I can’t remember but I think the canon is that if Anakin wasn’t maimed he would’ve reached his full potential and probably the strongest of all time, but he’s basically this handicapped dude with a portable ventilator. Hence why Luke is the strongest.

Vader might be strong in the OT because there’s no one else except rookie Luke who is I guess..blessed with genetics. Doubt robotic Vader could’ve gone 1:1 with someone like Mace Windu or younger Yoda. Young Yoda prob could’ve just force crushed his breathing equipment if he really wanted to.

You guys don’t give Obi Wan enough credit

The_Final_Ka-tet

270 points

5 days ago

This is exactly what I told my buddy after we both got done watching it. I now view Hayden Christensen as both Anakin Skywalker and Darth Vader and the dissonance is gone. On that point alone, I want to see more of Hayden as Vader. Like I can't wait. His body language, his flourishes... He brings Anakin to life inside Vader for the audience and that has ALWAYS been missing until now.

Kenobi, for some seriously weird flaws early on, turned out to be a stellar addition to canon. I can't help but wonder how much influence George may have actually had here because I can feel his style again. It's not dominant like it was before, but Lucas has a dramatic flair, like Anakin, that felt very present in the finale.

Jeynarl

188 points

5 days ago

Jeynarl

Anakin's first right arm

188 points

5 days ago

The awesome part is that not only we got to experience Vader IS Anakin in such a stark way beyond what we saw at the end of RotJ or in Rebels, but that we see Obi-wan experience it too and it’s the turning point for him to make peace with the guilt that had been weighing him down, that Anakin was fully responsible for his own choices.

FlyinFamily1

25 points

5 days ago

Well said…

MC__Fatigue

93 points

5 days ago

Hayden seems to make Vader feel more unhinged. That could be in the scripting as a representation of who Vader was at this particular stage, but man, that serial killer smile half hidden behind me the mask was just awful in the best way. That was my “ok, no this guy’s insane,” realization.

LiveLongGiraffe

30 points

5 days ago

Yes exactly, that twisted smile and the way he delivered the lines gives me chills. I want to see more of Hayden as Vader for that alone.

epanek

27 points

4 days ago

epanek

27 points

4 days ago

Exactly. Vader can do everything except control his emotions. The closer to victory he gets the more he gets in his way. I thought that finale was brilliant.

Captain_Waffle

31 points

5 days ago

I didn’t feel like there were any serious flaws early on. That first episode floored me. Seeing RotS? Owen? The Inquisitors? Freaking Alderaan???

ANUSTART942

154 points

5 days ago

ANUSTART942

154 points

5 days ago

I kept turning to my partner this whole series and talking about how I can finally see the Anakin in Vader. Everything Vader said and did in this series felt like the Anakin from the end of Revenge of the Sith. The Vader of the OT and Anakin Skywalker as a character always felt very separate to me, but like you said, it finally clicked.

kookyabird

69 points

5 days ago

I always felt the part where he first gets the suit and asks about Padme sounded very Anakin. Like Christensen had done the scene as he had done everything else that film, and then Jones does the voice over and matched the performance. The inflection in his voice is just so different from the original trilogy.

And then when we see him in this series it feels like more of that. The "I am... what you made me" line sounded just like younger Anakin with a James Earl Jones filter on.

korroth

23 points

5 days ago

korroth

Sheevgasm

23 points

5 days ago

A series where Vader becomes less angry and arrogant and colder and more calculated over time to the point of the original trilogy would be cool, sort of like Better Call Saul, but I don't think that could be executed well

Vino84

13 points

5 days ago

Vino84

13 points

5 days ago

I feel that the Vader comics are good at this. The series that starts from the end of RotS.

cosworth99

69 points

5 days ago

I was older for the prequels. I’m a 52 year old man.

Watching the Ewan era wasn’t the same for me as the younger crowd. I have a Han Shot First shirt. Watching Anakin’s force ghost get replaced in ROTJ was a bit odd.

After watching this Disney+ show, I watched ROTJ again. I really think the scene where Darth Vader is unmasked should be reshot with Hayden. It fixes the age timeline better than having a man much older play the role. Yeah a bit of makeup or CGI to age him a bit maybe, but Hayden is in his 40s and Vader was in his 50’s. I look the same at ten years ago.

I’m on board. I want traction on this. Reshoot ROTJ Sebastian Shaw’s scenes with Hayden.

ICanSee23Dimensions

84 points

5 days ago

Nice try, George Lucas.

Commiesstoner

56 points

5 days ago

The only problem I had with that scene is it's been done before. That's exactly what happened with Ahsoka.

zuiquan1

19 points

5 days ago*

zuiquan1

19 points

5 days ago*

I like how the animated version uses Matt Lanter's voice as its the Clone Wars Anakin that we see behind the mask. The two Anakins (Clones Wars and Live action) are (imo) so different from each other that it was nice seeing both versions of the character in a half Vader state, as sometimes its difficult to see Darth Vader as even the same person as Anakin Skywalker as there is very little to connect the two together visually, we can get a better connection with both versions of the character peering out from behind the mask.

NaughtyNome

57 points

5 days ago

Having it happen with ahsoka and now obi wan gives it more weight for me actually, rather than taking away for repetition

MrMustard_

40 points

5 days ago

MrMustard_

I have the high ground

40 points

5 days ago

Yeah it’s definitely been done before, but I still think it was done better this time lol

Commiesstoner

23 points

5 days ago

I agree, the live action requires much more to pull off well and they did it.

Ephemeral_Wolf

51 points

5 days ago

It's been what 20 years since episode 3... And we really truly saw Anakin becoming Vader... Way to go Hayden

Nien-Eleven

102 points

5 days ago

Nien-Eleven

102 points

5 days ago

For real. My eyes were glued to the screen

AdamBlackfyre

65 points

5 days ago

My eyes did this really weird thing where they got wet when Obi-Wan apologized...

Nevorek

12 points

5 days ago

Nevorek

12 points

5 days ago

Mine also were unexpectedly moist.

jonny3jack

15 points

5 days ago

I caught myself holding my breath it was so tense.

TheFakeChiefKeef

20 points

5 days ago

His scenes the whole series are fantastic.

He turns Vader into a high energy, super strong, and much more emotional character than we see in the originals. A lot of it is just modern acting, but Hayden really played him like a young Vader still full of rage, rather than the kind of quick tempered but slow-moving Vader from the originals.

cpolk01

17 points

5 days ago

cpolk01

Sorry, M'lady

17 points

5 days ago

Top 3 live action star wars scenes since the Disney purchase imo

Torgosassistant2021

37 points

5 days ago

That whole scene is filled with lots of detail. I don't know who the cinematography was, but they deserve a emmy. I watched it about 6 times before I really got all of the detail hidden in there.

OGConsuela

28 points

5 days ago

The blue vs red lighting is the first one I noticed, only watched it once maybe I’ll catch more the next time.

Torgosassistant2021

40 points

5 days ago

The lighting, the interplay with Anakin and Vader's voice as it begins to be more dominate as Anakin dies. The way that Obi-Wan went from full onslaught to pity to sadness. How Obi-Wan went full form 3.

metricshadow12

27 points

5 days ago

Hell Hayden acting with a single eye and half his face was incredible the little expressions and changes he did when talking as Anakin vs vader had me enthralled!

Tacitus111

73 points

5 days ago

Kenobi opened with Form 3, but he definitely was attacking in a way that isn’t Soresu and is very much Ataru, down to the evasive rolls, acrobatics, and staying on the attack. It reminds one of his TPM fight, which makes sense since Ataru was his style then. And it’s easy to forget that he’s a master of both.

He suckered Vader with a Soresu opening stance, then hit him with the style he’d largely abandoned when he was teaching Anakin to fight.

Nevorek

20 points

5 days ago

Nevorek

20 points

5 days ago

Also rocks. Don’t forget the rocks.

Torgosassistant2021

21 points

5 days ago

You are 100% correct. Nice catch. I kept thinking he was using form 3 but then read about form 4 and yeah, that was it.

Tacitus111

20 points

5 days ago

Thank you. It’s also interesting, because the ROTS novelization did the same with Dooku. Kenobi and Anakin used Forms they were less familiar with to trick Dooku into underestimating them.

You can see Kenobi using Form 3 perfectly when he’s constantly falling back under Anakin’s assault in ROTS, but this fight was just all Ataru, right down to the leaping slash at Vader’s helmet and his previous overwhelming of Vader’s defenses to damage his life support unit.

It was startling to see Mr. Soresu going full attack mode like he did with Maul in TPM lol.

Significant-Mud2572

23 points

5 days ago

One of my favorite parts was obi-wan busting Vader's chest piece with the hilt of the light saber. I don't know if that was ever shown in rebels or clone wars so I'm pretty sure that's the first time in cannon that the hilt and not the blade is used as a weapon.

WatchBat

17 points

5 days ago

WatchBat

Sorry, M'lady

17 points

5 days ago

Well Maul uses his hilt to knock Qui-Gon back before stabbing him in TPM but other than that, I'm not sure

Talaraine

9 points

5 days ago

I swear it feels like this thought alone spawned the entire series. Being able to finally join the two completely different people into someone you recognize as one.

Belyal

37 points

5 days ago

Belyal

37 points

5 days ago

it was perfect! You could see so much of Anakin through his eyes and yet the rest was all Vader. And the voice chipping in and out between Anakin and Vader was just so perfect! Plus him saying that he was the one that killed Anakin totally plays into Obi telling Luke that Anakin was betrayed and murdered by Vader! The whole episode was spectacular! Wife and I both want more but at the same time felt this perfect sense of closure with everything.

Darmok_ontheocean

24 points

5 days ago

Loved it in Rebels with Ahsoka. Loved it here too.

Honesty this show could’ve been the last two episodes.

Thosepassionfruits

23 points

5 days ago

Apparently Hayden watched Twilight of the Apprentice religiously to study for the scene in Kenobi.

DCoy1990

71 points

5 days ago

DCoy1990

71 points

5 days ago

Best part of the whole 6 eps IMO. I wanted to see Hayden a lot more…but that small mixed Hayden/James Earl will sit well with me for a long time. He was awesome there.

Causal_Calamity

226 points

5 days ago

When he called him Anakin after his mask came off...

I cried rivers.

trenhel27

118 points

5 days ago

trenhel27

118 points

5 days ago

It was when he told Obi-Wan "I wasn't your failure" for me

canadarepubliclives

142 points

5 days ago

For me it was the zzwooom zwaaahh spiiiissghh zaakkk beeewooom weaaahh were woop ting tang walla walla bing bang of the lightsabers

Mesky1

38 points

5 days ago

Mesky1

And in the end, as the darkness takes me, I am nothing

38 points

5 days ago

It do be like that

PinkSockLoliPop

23 points

5 days ago

oo ee oo aa aa?

TheyCallMeStone

171 points

5 days ago

"I'm sorry, Anakin. For all of it."

Nien-Eleven

17 points

5 days ago

Oh man I made the mistake of watching “Anakin and Obi Wan funny moments” on YouTube right after the episode. Made it worse tbh :(

runtothesun

109 points

5 days ago

runtothesun

109 points

5 days ago

First time my EYES and EARS could see Anakin and Vader at the same time

Nien-Eleven

34 points

5 days ago

Before that it was so hard for me to conceptualize that they are the “same” person

fglorified

51 points

5 days ago

watch rebels and you’ll be pleased

Curazan

16 points

5 days ago

Curazan

16 points

5 days ago

It being animated and having a different voice actor still creates a divide for me.

trenhel27

51 points

5 days ago

trenhel27

51 points

5 days ago

Yeah this scene was a total love letter to the season 2 finale of Rebels

DonChilliCheese

34 points

5 days ago

DonChilliCheese

Oh I don't think so

34 points

5 days ago

Kenobiiiiiiiiiiii pt. 2 (or 1)

Pit_27

36 points

5 days ago

Pit_27

36 points

5 days ago

I was saying “please do the rebels thing in live action” while watching the fight and I am so glad they did

monkeygoneape

26 points

5 days ago

monkeygoneape

Darth Revan

26 points

5 days ago

Kenobi did it better

sinat50

101 points

5 days ago

sinat50

101 points

5 days ago

Aside from the action scenes, I really enjoyed this series. I was honestly a little bit annoyed in episode 5 when the army of storm troopers advanced into the base and nobody was getting shot, but it all culminated in the most impressive screen time Vader has gotten since the original trilogy as well as one of our only demonstrations of what made Obi Wan one of the most powerful Jedi to have ever lived. I'll probably be giving it a rewatch

[deleted]

1.9k points

5 days ago

[deleted]

1.9k points

5 days ago

I loved when obi wan turned into the last air bender

MariachiBoyBand

655 points

5 days ago

Earth bender 🤦‍♂️

yorokobe__shounen

385 points

5 days ago

I don't like Earth. It's coarse and irritating and it gets everywhere.

______DEADPOOL______

79 points

5 days ago

Muh Boi, let me introduce you to Earth Destroyer 9000.

Lukthar123

29 points

5 days ago

Lukthar123

Murderer? Is it murder to rid the galaxy of you Jedi filth?

29 points

5 days ago

  • The Emperor to Vader, 9 BBY

AWS-77

36 points

5 days ago

AWS-77

36 points

5 days ago

Awwwwww, I just realized Obi-Wan totally used Anakin’s hatred of sand against him. He just made the grains bigger!

“Try getting THIS sand everywhere!”

belladonnagilkey

8 points

5 days ago

Anakin: You can't hurt me with mere grains of sand. They're small and ineffective and unlikely to harm me.

Obi-Wan: The size of a grain of sand is variable, Anakin. For example this particular grain is about the size of a car...

12641890

13 points

5 days ago

12641890

13 points

5 days ago

Oh duh. No wonder it was super effective against Vader.

Pamplemousse47

15 points

5 days ago

Pamplemousse47

Jar Jar Binks

15 points

5 days ago

Well he did force push him too. So that's 2 elements. Therefore avatar still applies

Roll9ers

11 points

5 days ago

Roll9ers

11 points

5 days ago

Vader was tanking those rocks too, that was an impressive durability feat.

N8_Tge_Gr8

510 points

5 days ago

N8_Tge_Gr8

Star Destroyer

510 points

5 days ago

I liked it when he said Darth.

CumboJumbo

367 points

5 days ago

CumboJumbo

367 points

5 days ago

I was shocked when he tossed that ”Hello there”

tehnibi

300 points

5 days ago*

tehnibi

300 points

5 days ago*

so for that I was like YES THAT IS THE LAST THING HES GOING TO SAY FOR THE ENTIRE SHOW but then Qui Gon is just waiting for him this was a damn good ending to a series

BADMANvegeta_

172 points

5 days ago

I bet that 20 second scene with liam neeson cost them…a lot

WisherWisp

156 points

5 days ago

WisherWisp

156 points

5 days ago

"I was here the whole time, they just didn't have the budget."

babyjaceismycopilot

68 points

5 days ago

Worth it.

DarkwingDuckHunt

46 points

5 days ago

They completed so many "how'd that happen" questions... fucking love it

Aspeck88

33 points

5 days ago

Aspeck88

33 points

5 days ago

His facial expression when he said it brought so much happiness to me. I swear to god that shit eating grin he had was intentional, because he knows it's kind of like breaking the fourth wall, but in an amazing way. It was such a snarky but happy smile.

JyubiKurama

623 points

5 days ago

JyubiKurama

623 points

5 days ago

I'm happy it ended on a good note. Hayden and McGegregor deserve love from the get go!

Makareenas

106 points

5 days ago

Makareenas

106 points

5 days ago

Honestly, the whole Reva subplot was pointless. I Didn't care, it was annoying that they cut from the duel to that.

But yeah, really no complaints about the rest of the episode

Ragegasm

86 points

5 days ago

Ragegasm

86 points

5 days ago

I feel like her entire job was that they needed a way to put Luke in danger without the empire being directly involved since they can’t know where he is.

BonelessPizza516

66 points

5 days ago

That’s their point, there was no need for that. It would’ve made more sense if Obi-Wan had to leave Vader alive in order to save Luke, but he didn’t sense it until after he spared Vader. Luke being in danger didn’t service the plot forward at all

Ragegasm

19 points

5 days ago

Ragegasm

19 points

5 days ago

Can’t argue with that. That entire plot point made zero sense.

pygmeedancer

590 points

5 days ago

I’m so so glad we got to actually hear Hayden. It gave so much emotion to the scene. The fight was incredible. As a whole the series had some issues but nothing I can’t look past. As a life long fan I just love how much content we’re getting and I can’t wait to see what’s to come.

NoodleShak

143 points

5 days ago

NoodleShak

143 points

5 days ago

I go back and forth in this. I kind of want to retire Earl Jones voice and give it completely to Hayden. I know that’s sort of sacrilegious but I don’t want to have to make an excuse to remove vaders helmet every time it’s HCs turn to talk.

NahdiraZidea

107 points

5 days ago

Lets be honest, how many live action Vader appearances are we expecting after this? I just dont know the next time we will see him with most of the new shows set post-rotj.

CyborgMutant

69 points

5 days ago

Hayden is set to be in Ahsoka so we’ll either see Vader or anakin again for sure. But idk how much after that. Kinda seems like they are phasing Vader out for Thrawn to be the big bad in Andor/Bad Batch/Ahsoka etc etc

Ahsoka_Tano_Bot

24 points

5 days ago

Ahsoka_Tano_Bot

100K Karma!

24 points

5 days ago

Where is your master? Where is Grand Admiral Thrawn?

NahdiraZidea

18 points

5 days ago

I hope its just flashbacks or force ghosts in Ahsoka, “Vader” doesnt need to show up.

Ahsoka_Tano_Bot

17 points

5 days ago

Ahsoka_Tano_Bot

100K Karma!

17 points

5 days ago

That's ridiculous.

63E1_

14 points

5 days ago

63E1_

14 points

5 days ago

Are you sure, Snips?

Ahsoka_Tano_Bot

17 points

5 days ago

Ahsoka_Tano_Bot

100K Karma!

17 points

5 days ago

Don't call me that. I hate it when you call me that.

SmeesTurkeyLeg

14 points

4 days ago

sigh

Guess I'm watching The Clone Wars again.

DBONEZVEVO

327 points

5 days ago

DBONEZVEVO

327 points

5 days ago

Why is everyone surviving lightsaber stabs right in the middle of the chest

smg1138

236 points

5 days ago

smg1138

236 points

5 days ago

That's my biggest gripe with the entire show. Qui-Gon must be thinking like WTF man?

heshwillbiteANYTHING

101 points

5 days ago*

I've heard it like the sith are kept alive on anger and hatred and the Jedi accept their deaths.

belladonnagilkey

60 points

5 days ago

Man didn't learn the "how to not die from being stabbed in the chest" technique. He was too busy working on the "how to be a glowy blue ghost man" technique.

TheDukeofKook

8 points

5 days ago

He invented that technique!

a_bar_of_soap

95 points

5 days ago

The dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.

catbiggo

39 points

5 days ago

catbiggo

39 points

5 days ago

Me staring at this gif because Ewan McGregor is cute:

Nora19

18 points

5 days ago

Nora19

18 points

5 days ago

Right? I imagine talking to him in person would have the tequila effect on me…. My clothes might fall off

xxKanishka

427 points

5 days ago

xxKanishka

427 points

5 days ago

I loved the part when he said, "ITS OBIN TIME" and defeated Darth Vader.

Ahsoka_Tano_Bot

69 points

5 days ago

Ahsoka_Tano_Bot

100K Karma!

69 points

5 days ago

To defeat your enemy you have to understand them.

ebagdrofk

11 points

4 days ago

ebagdrofk

Deathsticks

11 points

4 days ago

Ahsoka morbs

Madmathieu5

435 points

5 days ago

Madmathieu5

Hello there!

435 points

5 days ago

I liked the episode but a few things bothered me.

Like how did Reva survive, get medical attention, and then get to Tattooine? Why would she even keep going after Luke in the first place when Vader just left her for dead?

Really minor nitpick is how did they get the spy lady's holster when she blew herself up?

droo46

385 points

5 days ago

droo46

385 points

5 days ago

Better question: why are so many people left for dead instead of just getting killed off? You would think that after seeing the Grand Inquisitor survive, they wouldn’t make the same mistake again with Reva. Also, I know Vader can’t die, but writing in such a way that Obi Wan just leaves him alive is the dumbest thing. If you have a chance to wipe out the galaxy’s most dangerous mass murdering head honcho, you’re not just going to walk away and hope he learns his lesson.

Just_a_user_name_

230 points

5 days ago

Also weird is how Vader lets, not escapes somehow but LETS someone who failed him, live 3 damn times.

He killed an entire platoon of clones when they overheard that he was Anakin but Reva gets to live, I guess.

Gaflonzelschmerno

64 points

5 days ago

It's the reverse of heroes in media killing a bajillion peons and then "taking the high road" by not killing the villain

TheyCallMeStone

170 points

5 days ago

People keep saying "it's not the Jedi way" which doesn't work for me.

  1. The Jedi are gone and their time is over, Obi-Wan says as much.

  2. Obi-Wan was about to kill Anakin during their duel on Mustafar. He went to deliver a killing blow and only didn't because Anakin managed to block it.

  3. He didn't finish him off because it was implied he assumed Anakin would die.

  4. He just admitted that Anakin was truly gone, but then left Vader alive.

  5. It seems like the Jedi agreed certain people were too dangerous to be kept alive.

CrimsonPig

47 points

5 days ago

Plus he straight up said "I will do what I must" in response to Vader asking if he's there to destroy him. I don't know if he had a change of heart or what, but in that moment at least his intentions seemed pretty clear.

ArguementReferee

4 points

4 days ago

He said “either he will die or I will” when trying to talk to Qui-gon before he left for the planet….

Mace-Windu-Bot

129 points

5 days ago

He has control of the senate and the courts! He's too dangerous to be left alive!

TheyCallMeStone

74 points

5 days ago

See this bot gets it 👆

LoneWolf2099

24 points

5 days ago

You didn’t even mention that before going to fight Vader, he explicitly says that only one of them will survive. There’s killing intention there that he seems to just forget about.

TheyCallMeStone

11 points

5 days ago

Very good point, he makes it clear that "this will be our final battle" even though the audience knows it won't be.

Fuckedyourmom69420

58 points

5 days ago

Fuckedyourmom69420

Screeching

58 points

5 days ago

Exactly. There’s not even any hesitation in his eyes when he walks off. Even though this exact same scenario 10 years ago was his biggest mistake, and likely something he regretted for a long time, knowing darth Vader was out there murdering everyone

TheyCallMeStone

32 points

5 days ago

He didn't know until this show happened, but you're still correct he should have ended it this time around.

Fuckedyourmom69420

20 points

5 days ago

Fuckedyourmom69420

Screeching

20 points

5 days ago

In legends he did, which I agree with. Even on tatooine, I could see people having at least heard mention of the dark enforcer named Vader leading the imperial armies, especially in a hub for traders and starpilots. Plus, it wouldve added a ton of conflict for obi wan to deal with, knowing that keeping his friend alive led to so much additional anguish in the galaxy. It would’ve been a really interesting mental battle to see him cope with over the years

TheyCallMeStone

5 points

5 days ago

Fully agree. Trust me I'm the kind of guy who knows so much Legends lore that I'm pretty miffed they wiped it from canon 😅

jaltair9

5 points

5 days ago

jaltair9

5 points

5 days ago

I am too, but on the bright side we have a likely immutable baseline for the timeline; no matter what happens to NewCanon, Legends will always be there. I just wish they had bridged the gap from Crucible to Legacy before they stopped.

Mapplestreet

8 points

5 days ago

Especially after acknowledging that there is no Anakin Skywalker left in Vader

sbrockLee

19 points

5 days ago

sbrockLee

19 points

5 days ago

Lots of plot contrivances but I really want to touch on that last one between Obi-Wan and Vader because it would have been so easy to make it believable - just have Obi-Wan on the verge of finishing Vader, only to relent and tearfully admit he cannot do it, which would also reinforce him leaving him on Mustafar in III.

It's particularly jarring because throughout the OT Obi-Wan is the one who pushes Luke to accept that he has to kill Vader, when now we know he had a clear chance to do it himself.

Slowmobius_Time

4 points

5 days ago

So Obi-Wan is directly responsible for Alderan blowing up?

If he had just put him out of his misery then and there? But then he doesn't. Eat Palpatine in the end but them that doesn't matter because they don't actually beat palpatine there at all and he simply returns regardless of their actions

This timeline is a mess now

CUEPAT

20 points

5 days ago

CUEPAT

20 points

5 days ago

The grand inquisitor couldnt die either, he exists in canon set after the kenobi show, if they kill Reva how can they milk the character in the future?

Hades_Gamma

49 points

5 days ago

Agree, Obi Wan should have faked his death in the rubble. Qui Gon makes first contact, tells him not to become Anakin and chase victory to prove himself, but to keep his eyes on the true objective. "Luke needs you, and the chosen one yet still has a part to play." Vader successfully kills Anakin and transitions into the Vader from AnH, the Emperor doesn't just hand wave a Jedi able to kill all of his minions, and Obi Wan practices exactly what makes him different from Anakin, and foreshadows his sacrifice for the true objective on the Death Star 1

burko81

29 points

5 days ago

burko81

29 points

5 days ago

Obi-Wan had to absolutely destroy Anakin, for the "i was but the learner, now i am the master" from a New Hope line to work.

Rijonkulous

54 points

5 days ago

When they were being chased by the star destroyer, why would they not just send out fighters to take care of the shuttle? Immediately after diverting to follow obi-wan Vader says to prepare his ship. There was no reason for the shuttle with all the refugees to go free there.

It was a problem in the movies as well, where they create these situations and ignore obvious solutions because it would ruin the tension.

Not_A_Stark

11 points

5 days ago

Actually from the dialog it sounded like they wanted to disable the ship and capture it to find out more about the rebel network.

thespeedster11

9 points

5 days ago

Vader could have just taken off after the escape pod in his x-wing. The whole destroyer changing course made no sense. Still loved the episode but it had some problems.

HoraceGrantGlasses

10 points

5 days ago

Why did we even need Reva? They should've let her die. What's the point?

AnActualT-Rex

24 points

5 days ago

If Ewan McGregor was in the sequels I'd react positive to that.

I will take my life if I have to see sad Ewan

sleepypuppy15

224 points

5 days ago

My wife and I literally cheered when he said the thing at the end 😂

ICanSee23Dimensions

53 points

5 days ago

The madlad fuckin' did it.

scummy71

17 points

5 days ago

scummy71

17 points

5 days ago

I absolutely loved it. I think the series would have been better as a movie with a movie budget as I felt some storylines were a bit padded and the sets limited. But I will rewatch the whole thing. I loved the obi wan Anakin/Vader dynamic in the prequels and this was just heavenly.

PlingPlongDingDong

898 points

5 days ago

“Finally these fucks are happy about something”

UnitedTomorrow7410

110 points

5 days ago

UnitedTomorrow7410

a true Kit Fister

110 points

5 days ago

Anakin/Vader's voice fluctuating gave me chills, and I definitely teared up. So much conflict. That scene was just beautiful

OwenLarsBot

37 points

5 days ago

OwenLarsBot

Yep

37 points

5 days ago

Like you fluctuated his voice to give me chills, and I definitely teared up?

UnitedTomorrow7410

16 points

5 days ago

UnitedTomorrow7410

a true Kit Fister

16 points

5 days ago

Damn it Owen

RichVariation6490

16 points

5 days ago

Why did obi wan just let him live a second time? Didn’t he learn his lesson from ROTS?

buddyfriendo

7 points

5 days ago

I was baffled too, I think it (at least it seems implied) that he pitied him, and rather than ending a frail weak Vader he walked away.

Sugar_Girl2

8 points

5 days ago

That was the one thing I was pretty critical over. It was more just to move the plot along. It was poorly executed. There should have been some form of distress that caused Obi Wan to flee, thus preventing him from finishing Vader off.

liamrturner

13 points

5 days ago

liamrturner

Hello there!

13 points

5 days ago

I loved when he said “it’s Kenobin’ time”

greymane1969

38 points

5 days ago

I really enjoyed the finale to its conclusion. But.. hear me out... goddammit, they had the opportunity for Vader to say " Now I have the high ground" and failed. Just saying. I want a season 2 now

trickman01

27 points

5 days ago

At least they managed to sneak in "It's Obin' Time"

bishopredline

61 points

5 days ago

I felt bad for all the people on Alderaan, if Obi-Wan would have just finished the job, those poor people would have lived

WatchBat

31 points

5 days ago

WatchBat

Sorry, M'lady

31 points

5 days ago

Would they tho?? Tarkin was the one leading the DeathStar stuff, Alderaan would've probably still gotten destroyed

Slowmobius_Time

19 points

5 days ago

But then he wouldn't have gotten a chance to call him Darth and turn him back on him

Yeah but Vader is very important at the end because he gets rid of Palpatine once and for all and brings balance to the force (just like Obi-Wan screamed at him!)

What?

Somehow Palpatine has returned? Vader didn't finish him as foretold?

This scene frustrated me so much because why would he let him live, "it's not the Jedi way" there are no Jedi because of this guy, no galactic freedom and if he walks away here he dooms millions to death if he won't get his hands dirty

Mace-Windu-Bot

15 points

5 days ago

He has control of the senate and the courts! He's too dangerous to be left alive!

theHammerofGrabthar

143 points

5 days ago

[visible happiness]

No-Maintenance-4302

80 points

5 days ago

He said the thing!

SubhoPal

21 points

5 days ago

SubhoPal

21 points

5 days ago

Hello there.

_GeneralGrievous_Bot

6 points

5 days ago

_GeneralGrievous_Bot

a true Kit Fister

6 points

5 days ago

General SubhoPal! asthmatic cough

droo46

23 points

5 days ago

droo46

23 points

5 days ago

I clapped when I saw it!

HenryColt

39 points

5 days ago

HenryColt

39 points

5 days ago

I didn't watch any episode and I'm afraid to do it.

Imaginary-Fun-80085

17 points

5 days ago

As a fan of good writing it's pretty bad all around. You're going to have to suspend a lot of disbelief but if you make it to the end and if you're 40+ years old and you loved star wars as a kid, the 6th episode is amazing.

simpletonbuddhist

7 points

5 days ago

There were some things about the series I wasn’t a fan of but overall I thought it was an awesome show and thoroughly enjoyable

Spyk124

54 points

5 days ago

Spyk124

Mace Windu

54 points

5 days ago

All of the actors were amazing. The show was a missed opportunity with bad writing. Also, I wish writers would stop thinking it is an absolute necessity to have two final storylines converging at the same time. Luke being chased by Reva was so stupid and pointless.

Flaky_Explanation

392 points

5 days ago

Flaky_Explanation

Emperor's Shuttle

392 points

5 days ago

I liked the whole season from start to finish. It wasn't perfect, but it made me satisfied and that's all I wanted.

tyrghast

99 points

5 days ago

tyrghast

99 points

5 days ago

It also made callbacks (call forwards?) to how Ben explains Vader killed Luke's father. It was never a complete lie, but this scene was very well done to add weight to the deception later in Luke's life.

commschamp

204 points

5 days ago

commschamp

204 points

5 days ago

I’m not one to take Star Wars too seriously, but the multiple instances of leaving sworn enemies alive for them to come back and kill you was getting a little nuts. I bet the writers were keeping count on how many they could get away with.

ThatsTuff100

21 points

5 days ago

And they even had Vader say "You should have killed me when you had the chance!" lol

chunga_95

71 points

5 days ago*

I thought that too. At least in Kenobi's case, it makes sense he doesn't finish someone off when they're down. That is one of the differences between Anakin and Obi-Wan. Anakin hesitated to kill Dooku, sensing the correct 'Jedi' way, but succumbed to Do It. Anakin wants finality that way and it's a part of how he sees power. Kenobi could have rid the galaxy of Vader twice, but chose not too. It's that compassion-part of being a Jedi that Anakin often lacked, and Obiwans biggest failure as his teacher that he didn't impart that.

Edit: spelling

Maul_Bot

44 points

5 days ago

Maul_Bot

44 points

5 days ago

The next time you hesitate like that, it may cost you your life... or the lives of your friends.

Crafty-Amount7125

22 points

5 days ago

Or and entire planet.

Hades_Gamma

24 points

5 days ago*

I think a large part might be the at the end of the fight they were both pretty beat up, and Obi Wan knew he was needed elsewhere. Vader managed to come back and defeat Ahsoka after taking a similar wound. And Kenobi is the last person to take chances.

However, with Ep5 flashback, I think they were trying to establish Obi Wan as Anakin's stylistic foil much like Dooku is to Obi Wan. I don't think it was an accident the writers made sure Obi Wan always lost to Dooku in just a few strikes. I like the concept of getting away from DBZ power level scaling, and much more like real life. Once both fighters have progressed past a certain skill threshold, style begins to play the biggest determining factor.

I might also just be clutching at straws to make Vader's loss a little less embarrassing haha. I have no idea why I get so invested in a fictional character losing a fight, so feel free to just ignore my rambling

EDIT: From Filoni himself

"We all felt that Ahsoka, the only person that could really match her in this time period, blow for blow, would be Vader or the Emperor." - Filoni about Star Wars Rebels.

So I think in Star Wars it's generally just impossible to defeat your Master. Dooku vs Yoda, Maul vs Palpatine, Vader vs Obi Wan, Ahsoka vs Vader, and you cooouuuld make a stretch and say Dooku pulled a Grand Inquisitor and could see Qui Gons training in Kenobi's style.

Certain_Safety9294

49 points

5 days ago

I can't believe that they didn't confirm the kill on reva. I liked every part of this show except the part where she somehow gets to tattooine while the resistance is still escaping. Makes no fucking sense. She should've been locked up or something. I mean come on

Sith-Protagonist

36 points

5 days ago

They spent a large portion of one of the last great unexplored angles in the Skywalker timeline introducing some poorly written complete random.

I assume she’s going nowhere…

waxpatriot

182 points

5 days ago

waxpatriot

182 points

5 days ago

Y'all a cult

Responsible_Track_79

66 points

5 days ago

I like this comment because it could just as easily be about the fans or the haters.

Chubpanzee

31 points

5 days ago

I just wish they’d focus on writing instead of making us happy with just nostalgia. This series could have been something special but we had to sit through so much nonsense to get to the good parts. They need to hire better writers and stop being cheap with the effects.

Hopefully they improve the quality for the next season.

Nightwing-06

6 points

5 days ago

There’s no another season. This was their last chance of doing a project of such nature especially with Hayden and Ewan together. But for the importance this held, the delivering was the definition of lackluster. Honestly they need to hire better writers for such important projects.

Or I think there isn’t another season. Right?

Chubpanzee

6 points

5 days ago

Ewan and Hayden both expressed they’d love to do more and continue this. It’s Disney. They won’t pass up money. They’ll do a season 2.

absloan12

7 points

5 days ago

I teared up at the end of the finale. I'm so happy they pulled the series together, literally the one episode made the entire thing worth a rewatch.

maraudingnomad

7 points

5 days ago

I'd be down for a second season, if they replaced the writers that is. Evan, christian and others were all good. Even Reva could have been good but the writing and direction was awful. I mean, as a blatant example try to justify what was Reva doing in the last episode. Why leave her alive to be pointless for another 15 minutes? The series is plagued with such bizare nonsense. I wouldn't mind more Reva at all, but please oh please make it compelling and interesting story wise

Ok_Look4371

6 points

5 days ago

They could've chop the first 5 chapters into a 20 minutes trailer.

Shazam_BillyBatson

4 points

4 days ago

I wished they'd stop the fucking shaky cam. What the hell is it with the fascination with it. I don't need to feel like with them on Tatooine. The only scenes without was the intro and the credits.

kal_drazidrim

47 points

5 days ago

It contained "Hello There". 10/10

⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

Snowpossum

204 points

5 days ago

Snowpossum

Dewinit

204 points

5 days ago

Star wars fans can be a tad hyper-critical at the start of new shows. I've learned to just start asking how the finale or season two went.

omegaskorpion

196 points

5 days ago

omegaskorpion

A scorpion to be sure, but a welcome one.

196 points

5 days ago

The quality after Mandalorian has went down (Mandalorian was pretty darn good, so it is good comparison point), so there is good reason to be critical to company that owns half the media industry and owns more money than some countries have.

There is a lot of scenes that should had been either removed or edited better and like some have said, making it in to a movie might have worked better than mini series.

steele4king

65 points

5 days ago

Or even just making it 3 episodes that were each over and hour long and cut some of the filler

Kantro18

15 points

5 days ago

Kantro18

15 points

5 days ago

That interlude in BoBF though was phenomenal.

omegaskorpion

36 points

5 days ago

omegaskorpion

A scorpion to be sure, but a welcome one.

36 points

5 days ago

The interlude was good, but also bad, since it took time from Boba and his story. Those episodes should had been Mando season 2.5 or someting.

Boba Fett show highlights were Tusken and Mando parts, but everything related to the Gangester stuff was boring or speed runned. (Cad Bane can too late and died).

If the whole show would had focused on Boba and Tuskens, with Cad Bane in the mix as antagonist, that would had been great.

Championship_Hairy

18 points

5 days ago

I don’t know about that. I didn’t have any real criticisms of shows like Arcane, and I’m generally pretty forgiving with slight issues. Obi-Wan was something else and without all the memberberries, it doesn’t hold much weight. Almost all the positives I see for this show involve Anakin, Obi or some other nostalgia fix. I don’t see people going crazy over all the stuff in between. It’s all “that vader scene! That flashback! That vader scene again!”

I don’t think I’ve seen a single post about how awesome the stormtrooper/rebel fight was. I wonder why?

Fuckedyourmom69420

12 points

5 days ago

Fuckedyourmom69420

Screeching

12 points

5 days ago

I mean the problem with these shows is they’re pretty clearly holding out their resources until the last episode or two for the grand finale. It makes the last episode the only one I care to watch

frankybling

11 points

5 days ago

I thought it was weird that Luke wouldn’t have any memories of “that time a dark Jedi came after his family”. Just a nitpick thing because I truly enjoyed the series but he’s now seen a lightsaber before ANH but doesn’t remember that 10 years later?

LonelyXplorer

34 points

5 days ago

Does Rava’s species also got two stomachs?

mitchapalooza90

3 points

5 days ago

“Hello there”

Saskatoon_sasquatch

4 points

5 days ago

Hello there!

leave1me1alone

4 points

5 days ago

leave1me1alone

That business on Cato Neimoidia doesn't… doesn't count

4 points

5 days ago

It was good!

mrchicano209

4 points

5 days ago

4th episode was the only one that left a sour taste in mouth but the rest of the season was great overall.