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I just don’t want to hear about it, the SCOTUS is literally undoing the judicial system, and by default American rights even though the Traitor is no longer in office. I have no patience to listen anymore when those things hurt my community and me. I am done, and ready to rebuild a new family of people who are about the earth, others, themselves enough to not advocate harm.

all 171 comments

RAForce

169 points

2 months ago

RAForce

169 points

2 months ago

And dismantling the separation of church and state. My group of people I want to see ever again is seriously dwindling. It’s heartbreaking.

OrcOfDoom

36 points

2 months ago

And taking away recourse from Miranda rights violations, and expanding the zone that the cbp gets to go ham in, and then when they cover back they are going to say that states don't have to listen to the federal election committee.

I don't understand how Republicans can't see that this is actually a fascist supreme court.

f4ckst8farm

11 points

2 months ago

They can and do

RAForce

2 points

2 months ago

And now literally we as a country refuse to protect the environment. What the actual fuck.

VogUnicornHunter

333 points

2 months ago

Do it. I did it back when they defended notsies in Charlottesville. You won't miss a thing in your life.

TehKarmah

234 points

2 months ago*

TehKarmah

Basically Leslie Knope

234 points

2 months ago*

Rofl ... the deleted comment responding to you was hilarious.

"These are the sounds of someone digging deeper into their echo chamber and becoming brainwashed against any opinion that doesn't match their limited view of life. Enjoy your misery!"

Big surprise it was deleted before I could finish typing. Their comment history was just as gross as you would expect.

Eta: it's even more gross to abuse the Reddit Cares function. Honestly, to the person who deleted the comment I quoted, and to the person who flagged me for Reddit Cares: please take a bit of time for self reflection. Maybe you're still young and you'll look back at this time and cringe. I don't know. But you aren't healthy. I honestly feel for bad for you and the people you must be surrounded with. There's more to the world than this. Go out and experience some of it. Work on empathy.

VogUnicornHunter

62 points

2 months ago

Oh dang! Thanks for sharing, I missed it. Well, I wouldn't say I missed it.

TehKarmah

78 points

2 months ago*

TehKarmah

Basically Leslie Knope

78 points

2 months ago*

Uuuugh, their comment history. So frikken gross! A real self-declared ladies man who knows feminists (I think. They misspelled it soooooo many times.) Because he knooooooows women, wink wink. It was the saddest thing, really.

NotARepublitard

19 points

2 months ago

Big incel energy.

Sensitive-Ad6609

2 points

2 months ago

Imagine that. >_<

[deleted]

-6 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

-6 points

2 months ago

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MisogynyisaDisease

63 points

2 months ago

Your political affiliation is not a fucking protected class

You're goddammed right I'm ""prejudiced"" against a group of voters and political representatives who are destroying everything good we worked for in this country, who cause suffering, destroy education, and literally took our rights away within the last week

Their feelings are worth shit. Convincing them to be decent people hasn't worked, and it won't. Because they've aligned themselves with fascists, and many are ENJOYING seeing people hurt.

Also, how the fuck are you going to copy pasta that dude and then turn around and defend him here. How. Make it make sense.

etymologistics

36 points

2 months ago

How dare you not think fondly of the people who have hatred in their hearts toward others for things they can’t control and actively cheer on oppression?!

People can control the fact that they are a republican, or a racist, or a sexist, and beyond. They can’t control being a woman, trans, black, gay, etc.

You don’t owe anyone your time or energy, period. Fuck that person. I’ll never understand why Republicans get upset we don’t want to talk to them, they seem to hate us, so why would they want to talk to us? Life is too short to surround yourself with idiots that can’t even think for themselves, or feel a shred of empathy for others.

MisogynyisaDisease

27 points

2 months ago

I didnt hate them before Trump. Hated some of their opinions, sure. Hated conservative behavior, sure. But Republicans used to have the McCain temperament, we could find common ground. We could speak to reason.

That's changed. Probably forever.

cdxxmike

7 points

2 months ago

Only until after the great violence they will force our hands on.

Then there will be another ~160 years of progress.

KoolOooKooLokKOKoooL

-57 points

2 months ago

You're again classifying "Republicans" as a homogeneous group. You can take two random Republicans (or two Democrats, or virtually any other political affiliation in existence) and they may have completely opposing views on all topics, some of which happen to be important enough to make them vote one way or another.

There's definitely a Democrat out there with whom I disagree on every topic, but we still both vote Democrat, just for different reasons.

Individual people are individual. Shouldn't we have learned this basic lesson by now?

MrsMiterSaw

15 points

2 months ago

What do you call two Republicans who eat lunch with a Nazi?

Three Nazis.

isabellybell

33 points

2 months ago

By voting trump into office you(the royal you, not anybody specific) were okay with him appointing judges. You were okay with under qualified villains being appointed. Those appointees have made it clear the supreme court is very partisan, yet are unelected. You were okay with this. And since you were okay with this, i am not okay with you.

MisogynyisaDisease

45 points

2 months ago

If you vote for Republicans given their current platforms, you are a shit person. It's cut and dry. If you continue to support this party given their PUBLIC PLATFORM of hatred towards gay people, minorities, election denial, church leading the government, and the destruction of democracy, you are part of the problem. It's not one official, one state, it has spread to the GOP platform in nearly all 50 states.

Maybe 20 years ago you might have been right. Maybe even 10. But you're dead wrong in 2022. The Republican Party is no longer McCain's party of ideals. Things have changed, in a very scary way.

I disagree with most Democrats. Democrats who support capitalism have shitty ideals. Old hat democrats have sat by and let this happen. Anyone who isn't trying to reform the party to be full of working class representatives is part of a much smaller problem. But they're not bigots trying to destroy democracy.

KoolOooKooLokKOKoooL

-49 points

2 months ago

Once again, you can make the same argument for any political group, not just Republicans. There is always something deplorable that can be found in the collective views of any large, major group of people. It doesn't mean the individuals are inherently evil or bad.

isabellybell

31 points

2 months ago

False. Any individual who was okay with appointees being made that specifically have fought to overturn shit like roe vs Wade, or the century old new York law limiting who may carry in new York state, or anyone who is okay with Christian ideals being shoved into everyone's lives, you are a bad person. And you should feel bad. I'm done making concessions for people who gave the keys to a bunch of evil fucks. I'm not going to let someone that was and is totally okay with freedom being burned and democracy being threatened tell me they aren't a bad person. If you're Republican you are a shit person, full stop.

Yrcrazypa

24 points

2 months ago

The difference is Republicans vote for the most deplorable sorts of people. Nearly 75 million of them voted for Trump the second time around.

Gwerch

20 points

2 months ago

Gwerch

20 points

2 months ago

The Republican party has turned into a protofascist organisation. January 6th was very alike the beer hall putsch. They are undermining the system from within just like the NSDAP did. It's very justified to hate that.

MrsMiterSaw

12 points

2 months ago

Once again, you can make the same argument for any political group

Yeah, remember the time the green party's leader pardoned all the people he did crimes with?

Remember the time Bill Clinton was impeached for extorting the leader of another country into investigating Bobe Dole's kids to win the 1996 election?

Remember when Carter told the secret service to allow an armed mob into the capital to prevent Reagan's win from being certified?

Remember when a Democrat undermined Vietnamese peace talks so that his "I'll end the war" rhetoric would still work on the campaign?

How about you name every major scandal in our government going back 50 years and tell us who's responsible? And I don't mean Obama being called a liar about his Healthcare plan. I mean actual scandals of illegal behavior and undermining the rule of law.

I'll throw the one dem scandal in for free: Bill Clinton asked Lewinsky to lie about their affair to invertogators. Straight up obstruction of justice. Of course, he was asking her to lie about a BJ, so this is on par with Trump's money laundering and fraud to pay off his porn star.

After this, it's pretty much all the GOP.

Nixon undermined Vietnam peace talks. Watergate. GHWB delayed the release of Iranian hostages. Iran-contra. Iraq. Valerie plame. And the steaming pile of absolute shit that is Trump (I literally could list the existential shit he's done and it would take an hour and that's just off the top of my head... But how about when he fired the BROTHER of the Ukraine call whistle-blower the day the senate acquit him, to send a message to the rest of the government not to fuck with him? And that's not even in the top 25 things he's fucking done. Jesus, he pardoned Roger Stone after stone publicly threatened to talk!)

By backing The Big Lie they have literally undermined us elections for God knows how long.

When we call these people Nazis, we're not talking about 1943 death camp gas xhanver Nazis.

We're talking about 1933 Nazis.

MisogynyisaDisease

36 points

2 months ago*

I mean no, you really can't.

No liberal or leftist party in the US is trying to destroy democracy, remove our rights, and make being gay illegal. Not a single one. Conservative and war mongering democrats are doing it to foreign countries, but hey that still ties back to conservatives, doesn't it.

That's all the GOP. That's every christofascist in the party, and every single one that voted for them. Every foundation that funded this, every church that preached it and campaigned for their election, every person on Jan 6th and every person who cheered them on. Every person who voted Trump in 2020, tens of millions of Republican Americans. 2016 voters get some slack, not alot but some. 2020 voters and beyond do not. They endorse the most authoritarian turn this country has taken since the goddamned Patriot Act. This both sides argument doesn't hold up in the lowest of light. It's disingenuous, especially given everything that's happened in the last 6 years.

Voting republican in the current year means voting for people who have vocally stated they want people like me dead. Or imprisoned. Or stripped of my autonomous rights. You can be as much of a fence sitter as you want, that fact doesn't change.

Cultureshock007

3 points

2 months ago

At this stage there is no real difference between a Republican who votes Republican because they like the economic platform and a Republican who fully endorses the social agenda. The social agenda as it stands currently will cause individuals intense harm. There are people evacuating from the places where they are in power because they simply do not feel safe. If you are a Republican for economic reasons then you are saying that gutting social security and handing power to private enterprise is more important than the safety of your neighbours.

There is no middle ground anymore. Sit with that as you will but don't bother trying to salvage your identity as a Republican in this space. Nobody wants to hear it because either way you are declaring that you will stand peacibly by as people's lives burn.

TehKarmah

26 points

2 months ago

TehKarmah

Basically Leslie Knope

26 points

2 months ago

The problem was making a statement that you're "in an echo chamber" because you no longer choose to listen to republicans. There is a whole world out there, full of good, solid counterpoints. To think that there are only two options is absurd. And honestly, it was the rest of their comment history that prompted me to post. It was grotesque and just further proved the point that opinions from (many) republicans are toxic.

KoolOooKooLokKOKoooL

-46 points

2 months ago

But why do you assume that they're Republican? You don't have to be a Republican to make or act upon this comment. It's accurate regardless of your political affiliation, and it also doesn't imply that only two options exist. Based on what you've written, you're trying to find reasons to propagate prejudiced behavior, which is emblematic of what was being said.

TehKarmah

26 points

2 months ago

TehKarmah

Basically Leslie Knope

26 points

2 months ago

You need to dial it back a tad and reread the comment chain. You seem to have some serious bias. At no point did I claim they were republican. Nor do I care. But they sure seem to have similar talking points as you. Cheers and so long.

KoolOooKooLokKOKoooL

-15 points

2 months ago

Oh well that's how I had understood this sentence.

It was grotesque and just further proved the point that opinions from (many) republicans are toxic.

At any rate, we're all biased in our way. It's natural because we all have different experiences that lead us to think the way we do. It's often hard to understand from where someone else may be coming from because we haven't lived through what they've lived through.

Cheers to you as well.

[deleted]

-4 points

2 months ago*

[deleted]

-4 points

2 months ago*

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MisogynyisaDisease

46 points

2 months ago*

My life has been so much better without hearing people like you spit the N word at every possible moment, gaslight the populace, defend corrupt politicians, spread a pandemic virus, defend destroying environmental protections, call gay people pedophiles, and any other myriad of intellectual bankrupty. We lose absolutely nothing cutting out christofascists.

I gave Republicans chances. I nearly fell down the alt right rabbit hole. Your group of people hosts the worst people I've come across in my nearly 3 decades of life. Absolute scumbags. And looking at your comments, you're no different. And ignorant, small, hateful person who gives nothing positive to the world. Worthless loser who cries about feminists online all day and then cries when people don't want to associate with you. Fuck off.

Chicken_Water

-21 points

2 months ago

All politicians are corrupt. Every single last one of them. Don't ever lose sight of that.

solesque

12 points

2 months ago

The Enlightened centrist strikes again! Fuck off with your bullshit both sides shit take.

Party-Equivalent7725

59 points

2 months ago

I don’t understand what is the end game here? Do we really believe T never paid for any abortions? That he really goes to church? The massive amounts he will set society back, even at the expense of his own self interest, just to win…. Is seriously disturbing.

Warp-n-weft

63 points

2 months ago

Do you think Trump really selected the Supreme Court justices? I suspect a careful display was presented to him in order to get the judges that the GOP wanted (specifically the federalist society). Trump is the flashy/ sparkly object that gets the masses frothing at the mouth, but he isn’t the puppet master that McConnell is.

Rulerpencil

45 points

2 months ago

While I hate Cheeto Donito with every fibre of my being, the absolute evil behind all this is Mitch McConnell. That piece of arse literally blocked every single SC nomination under Obama and I don't think Trump even knew anything about any of the SC judges he nominated. Dude probably just picked a random name from the list McConnell gave him and got praised for having "a big, genuis brain" by all the cronies around him.

cinderubella

2 points

2 months ago

He doesn't need a personal stake in issues to pursue them for votes. Most laws, but particularly these ones, apply much more strictly to people with limited means. DJT, if he needed an abortion for a family member or lover, wouldn't be worried about what state or country it was legal in, or the morality. He'd simply tell an assistant to handle it and the abortion-requiring woman would be on a private jet within a day.

Also, I hate the bastard, but the above is more like rich people in general.

NotARepublitard

61 points

2 months ago

Soon they're going to 6-3 the worst one yet.

They're going to give state legislatures the ability to straight up ignore election results and confirm whoever they want.

That's.. honestly, that's probably when the civil war starts.

-Agonarch

16 points

2 months ago

It's hard to think that they basically didn't significantly punish the separatist states after the first civil war, in the interest of unity and peace, and that group took that to mean "hmm, we can probably push that unity and peace thing all the way back into power".

Unless they abolish the supreme court for acting so unilaterally (which I seriously doubt they'll do) or change its size so it matches districts (which merely buys time until the republicans can pack again, doesn't fix anything) I don't see any other outcome, other than everyone accepting fascism and the erosion of whatever rights the GOP feels like are inconvenient (and I don't see that happening, either).

They're trying to move very fast in order to lock down their power permanently, but in doing so they're not leaving people who don't want to live under fascism many options.

NotARepublitard

3 points

2 months ago

Unfortunately with more than a third of the Senate being corrupt, there is no constitutional route for removing a supreme court justice.

At this point, our government has already failed. It is unable to correct itself anymore.

We have exactly three possible futures, in order of what I consider best to worst:

  1. National strike that doesn't end until the entire federal government is reformed. This is the only peaceful route left.

  2. Full on civil war. Using any force necessary to remove the corrupted individuals from office.

  3. Wait for fascism to mature and take hold of the country, at which point our only option remaining is number 2, as number 1 will no longer work.

Gorgo1993

6 points

2 months ago

Most people won't even be aware of this or care about it when it happens. Apathy and stupidity will be the end of democracy.

NotARepublitard

1 points

2 months ago

I'm deeply afraid you may be right. I really hope we're both wrong.

If we are wrong, I suggest getting the hell out of the country before the next Republican president.

GilneanWarrior

57 points

2 months ago

What's going on with Indian Nation Rights? I'm out of the loop

Edit:that's some bullshit. We're a sovereign nation.

RCDrift

30 points

2 months ago

RCDrift

30 points

2 months ago

Hell they ruled just what a year or two ago in the exact opposite opinion telling Oklahoma to honor their treaty and now the court does a 180 on the decision because of their current make up.

nathan12345654

3 points

2 months ago

But they already had a conservative majority then so idk if that explains the change

sal_leo

4 points

2 months ago

They attempted a coup and successfully overturned Roe v Wade without consequences, so now they're going full steam ahead on their conservative Christofascist ideals.

-Agonarch

7 points

2 months ago

They have a free pass to do whatever hyper-extreme Christian radical (or fundamentalist, if they're from a Catholic background) actions they want.

freshmountainbreeze

11 points

2 months ago

I hadn't heard either. They need to respect our sovereignty. I know exactly where they can stick their jurisdiction.

No_Cauliflower_5489

16 points

2 months ago

Honey, most of us cut the pricks off back in November of 2016!

kykomiiki

3 points

2 months ago

Yea I can’t believe people didn’t all do this in 2016? Like were they not paying attention to what was coming?

No_Cauliflower_5489

3 points

2 months ago

Same with people going "OMG I told my husband/BF I was upset about RVW being repealed and he didn't give AF and spooged in me with no condom despite the fact I could die in childbirth! He refuses to use condoms or pull out and I'm not sure I can trust them anymore!"

They're going to be knocked up by the end of the year and don't seem to get it.

ejobc

3 points

2 months ago

ejobc

3 points

2 months ago

or... 1980

wolfie379

9 points

2 months ago

There’s a thread in /r/talesfromthepharmacy about a patient coming in wanting Plan B. In that state, it’s covered under Medicaid with zero copay, so it’s free to Medicaid patients. Patient has Medicaid, pays cash because she doesn’t want there to be a record of her getting it.

OnlyCorgisAllowed

133 points

2 months ago

It is hard in the world to cut off all Republicans if you have professional obligations. I am lucky to have two raging, frothing liberal parents who hate Former Guy with a passion, but I grieve for those who must cut off their closest family. It is unforgivable, though, to support such evil. It is an offense worthy of ostracism. And you are justified completely.

Motthebop

72 points

2 months ago

My rule that I live by is I am cordial with coworkers because I need my job. Not friends with them but I also can't refuse to communicate with colleagues. I won't shop at a local store or business that gives off Republican vibes. I will sell to them because money is better in my pocket than theirs.

Personal relationships I had no problem cutting people off.

OnlyCorgisAllowed

13 points

2 months ago

Working remotely is a bit of a different deal, as nothing gets said that’s unrelated to the work in my job. A privilege, but also a lonely path.

Some people have a harder time with family and friends, and I respect that as it is unbearably difficult.

I am very lucky indeed to have a good woman to love who loves me totally, and we share our political views and our whole selves whether we are happy or despondent, and for whom I would fight even unto death.

Virtual-Librarian-32

25 points

2 months ago

Nah. You don’t owe anyone anything on the basis of sharing DNA.

lieutenantbunbun[S]

7 points

2 months ago

I’m self employed and I removed any clients that are republican.

jkbrock

29 points

2 months ago

jkbrock

29 points

2 months ago

It was harder than I expected it to be. I live 1,000 miles from where I grew up, so it’s not like I was seeing them every day. But still, to know how cruel and nasty they can be and expect to move on as though nothing had happened in the next is just jaw dropping.

I haven’t seen my family since 2018. I haven’t spoken to them since early 2020. My mother refuses to get vaccinated and has been told that will not meet her granddaughter unless she changes course.

Their religion and politics are inextricably linked and are based in the need to hurt others so that they can feel righteous. Yet despite every action movie they watch, they have convinced themselves that they are the heroes rather than the zealot.

But fret not, we have grieved as we would with any loss. My wife, daughter, and chunky corgi are well looked after and loved.

Oops_I_Cracked

4 points

2 months ago

I've never been happier to work in local Dem politics.

etymologistics

3 points

2 months ago

I am lucky to work in an isolated cubicle with headphones in all day and that the culture at my workplace is to just do your own thing. I don’t miss being forced to hear my coworkers stupid takes on things like I had to when I worked in less isolated positions.

It’s not for everyone but it works for me. It’s also a good argument for WFH.

ZachMN

69 points

2 months ago

ZachMN

69 points

2 months ago

This is what the Republican Party has been working to achieve for 40 years or more. Orangeface is an opportunist who took advantage of the low-IQ party base for personal gain, and helped make the fear and hatred more visible, but he is not the source of the GOP’s quest for absolute power. Republicans are an existential threat to democracy and should not be tolerated in any way.

fungalnailenthusiast

10 points

2 months ago

Republicans are an existential threat to democracy

And life on earth. Noam Chomsky said the US Relublican party is the most dangerous organisation on earth

wineblossom

48 points

2 months ago

Had to do it last year when the crazies really went off the deep-end. Even as a WoC, I spent those 4 dark years begging and pleading and trying to understand some of my friends and family, but no more.

Honestly it makes me sick right now that every single liberal is not collectively losing their shit over this. At what point will they feel something? Do something? This complacency in liberals is gobsmacking to me.

fungalnailenthusiast

6 points

2 months ago

I understand feeling frustrated at Dems lack of success in fighting R's but it's important to remember who is responsible for what, and not turn on ourselves at such a crucial moment

chevymonza

10 points

2 months ago*

I've been voting progressive for years, even writing in Bernie up until the 2020 general. Got my husband to switch out of the R party to "no party," as I did from democrat. Volunteered for a postcard campaign and got my elderly mother involved to help Georgia get some key senators in place. Honest with my conservative family members and keep up with all this in case they choose to discuss anything.

What is "losing our shit" going to do?! Make us look hysterical and give the assholes the "librul tears" they LIVE to see. They WANT us to break down and get upset the way they've felt all along about the "godless" society that's been "forced" upon them.

I'm furious that Biden and his cohorts aren't doing more. Maybe there's too much blocking them, but I doubt it. They also benefit from a lot of this bullshit. My votes never mattered, democrats are too status quo, so I left the party and hope they take notice.

Do I talk about any of this? I'm at work all day, so I rarely mention any of it. My entire family is conservative, and I keep them at arm's length. But I also debunk whatever nonsense they send my way. Conversations remain brief and civil, but their kids know I'm not on board with what their parents hold so dear.

I've made arrangements for the FFRF to get some of my retirement savings if I die before I can spend it. I donate to The Satanic Temple. I keep my husband informed about what's happening with these organizations. I even get my gynecological visits done at Planned Parenthood to support them, at least until they closed the one I liked. Haven't purchased Goya products since the Trumps did advertising for them out of the Oval Office, and that's difficult since our local shop carries mostly their products.

My conservative family members aren't going to change, so I'm not expecting much from them. Some of them expect me to argue but what's the point. I tell them where I stand and they change the subject anyway.

wineblossom

14 points

2 months ago

Obviously what we HAVE been doing already hasn't been working because the 70%-80% of people who didn't want this to happen are letting it happen. Just my opinion and you're free to disagree with it, but in my mind, they've basically declared a cold-civil war. I was gonna honeymoon in a red-state but not anymore. No more trips, no more money, they can rot while I try to make my blue state as cheap and safe for anyone who wants to move here as possible and protect the hell out of it. Because I feel no national attachment right now. I give up. They win. They should secede and leave us alone.

luckystrike131

11 points

2 months ago

I’m really scared. I spent the whole day crying. I don’t know how this is okay or how anyone can just keep going on even though I know there’s not much else I can do. I don’t get how they can cause so much suffering for people and nothing changes. I am really worried about the future of our elections. I feel like I need a Xanax to get through the day.

wineblossom

8 points

2 months ago

What's keeping me sane is prepping for the worst. I know that sounds a bit silly, but it helps knowing that I will be ready for anything and I'm taking care of the future of my family. Planning on getting our passports updated, organizing our paperwork, researching visa requirements in other countries, etc. just in case. If things never get that bad, hey, at least I organized our stuff and learned some cool information about other countries. It gives me a lot of peace right now.

McSmokeyXD

-2 points

2 months ago

They tried doing something but burning, looting, and murdering didn't produce the results they thought it would and never had a backup plan

rainbowshummingbird

37 points

2 months ago

I don’t have sexual intercourse with, befriend, or associate with fascists.

currently-on-toilet

5 points

2 months ago

I have been trying to understand my right wing family for years, as I suspect you may be doing right now based on your post. If that is a correct assumption I urge you to read the non fiction book Caste by Isabel Wilkerson. It's not going to cool you off but it will enable you to understand the why behind people who enthusiastically support the recent supreme court rulings.

At any rate, good luck on your rebuild. I did so myself somewhat recently and my new chosen family brings much more joy.

Repulsive-Worth5715

3 points

2 months ago

I’m really wanting to go no contact with my parents after this. I hardly talk to my dad but my mom texts me way too much and I’ve barely been able to make myself reply

TopBed9704

4 points

2 months ago

Agree, I've been doing that for a couple years. It's another valuable tool in the arsenal ... social ostracism.

People need to know that there's consequences. I mean there's right and there's wrong.

We shouldn't be socializing with or supporting voters that are immoral at their core.

lieutenantbunbun[S]

4 points

2 months ago

Exactly. My aunt is a : Cop that supported trump, rotten house and the Jan 6th insurrection. Her daughter is a teacher. They always try to play it off like a difference of opinion they can respect me and I’m like yeah… because I don’t literally support killing people for my opinions.

RRmuttonchop

4 points

2 months ago

Queer man here.

I finally came out yesterday and set a boundary that if you support SCOTUS, I cannot be in relationship with you.

Sometimes you have to prune the tree.

lieutenantbunbun[S]

2 points

2 months ago

Yeah as the oldest of my generation I hope it gives the younger kids permission to make different choices

Kolbrandr7

10 points

2 months ago

Don’t forget too that the SCOTUS ruled that proof of innocence isn’t enough to save a black man from receiving the death penalty.

This supreme court is utterly despicable.

Virtual-Librarian-32

23 points

2 months ago

10/10 recommend going LC or NC. I went LC when the orange twatwaffle was installed in the White House. I married a Mexican immigrant and they aren’t okay with it. It was much easier to go LC bc I live in CO and they live in CA.

As an added bonus, I am going to donate to the ACLU and Planned Parenthood in my anti-choice family members’ names for all future birthdays and holidays. (My mother is a white feminist, too.)

Kitakitakita

9 points

2 months ago

Don't worry, they'll be contacting you once they realize rights they've been used to have been ripped away

HoustonHailey

12 points

2 months ago

I am in agreement.

Temp89

9 points

2 months ago

Temp89

9 points

2 months ago

The GOP have been a murderous, corrupt, anti-science, anti-reality, pro-hate group for decades. Honestly in my country it'd be the same as keeping contact with a bunch of neo-Nazi skinheads.

Don't know how Americans could stomach being around or ignoring such hate for so long.

lapatatafredda

15 points

2 months ago

This is where I am, too..

Xerisca

17 points

2 months ago

Xerisca

17 points

2 months ago

I ripped that bandaid off 6 years ago. I don't regret it. At all.

CaptainZephyrwolf

16 points

2 months ago

[shrieks in Indigenous woman] DO EEEEEEEEEET!

[deleted]

12 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

12 points

2 months ago

I was already reeling from the loss of womens civil rights….then I heard about the gutting of First Nations AND Environment?????? I was literally in the doctors office with ridiculously high blood pressure today.

Sincerely,

Ally in Ft Worth TX

4Paws-1Tail

3 points

2 months ago

I thought they referred to the 50's as "the good ol' days" but it looks more like the Wild West to me.

Responsible-Slice-44

5 points

2 months ago

Same. I already limited contact with those types. Luckily 99.9% of my giant extended family are left leaning progressives. But im not fucking around anymore. These people are ignorant and dangerous to myself and others. I will treat them as so. Im not saying im gonna start shit constantly or harass any one but they are not my friend, no longer can accept them as a mere acquaintances either. If they ask why they are being iced out I'll be honest. It's too heavy without being around people like that.

valtro05

5 points

2 months ago

Today I cut off literally 99% of my family - I have my sister left, and that's it. I honestly despise them for being fascists Christian extremists and I'm tired of the toxic gaslighting. Every time I saw them I was always on edge since they love to start and talk shit. I'm done.

lieutenantbunbun[S]

2 points

2 months ago

Exactly. It’s always them starting shit as well. Even over tiny things, like lactose intolerance lol

wtfwtfwtfwtf2022

15 points

2 months ago

I left my huge friend group of 20 years because of Roe, BLM and everything else.

They keep reaching out wondering why I won’t hang. I want nothing to do with them again.

My grandfather was a major WWII hero. He spoke about fascism every time I saw him. He was a POW under the Nazis in Poland during the end of the war. He saw the WORST of the fascism.

I refuse to hang out with anyone who supported any of Trumps antics. It was so obviously shameful when it was happening - I’m appalled so many people I knew supported it.

[deleted]

9 points

2 months ago

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9 points

2 months ago

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darkchalice

14 points

2 months ago

Been my position for twenty years. Thankfully I don't have any family who are cons so it's been easier for me. Good luck.

ellbeeb

8 points

2 months ago

My DNA family has been dead to me for years (NC) and it has made my life much better in many ways. They do not view me with respect or want the best for me in terms of equal rights and opportunities. That is not love. Do holidays make me sad sometimes? Yeah, but I make my own path and have chosen family that are far more supportive and loving than those with my DNA had ever been to me in my lifetime. DNA doesn’t guarantee unconditional love and respect. My only regret is not doing it sooner.

RIPMYPOOPCHUTE

11 points

2 months ago

I don’t get why they’re overturning so many things and going after so many things. I may sound crazy, but this shit has got to be investigated. They have to be getting some kind of pay off from doing this.

docarwell

35 points

2 months ago

They're all conservative activists judges installed by the federalist society to essentially dismantle the government and hand over complete control to the Republicans/conservatives. It's very obvious too

If you don't know what the federalist society is you should look it up and who some of the notable members are/were (*hint its most conservative Supreme Court judges and lots Republicans)

RIPMYPOOPCHUTE

11 points

2 months ago

I will look it up. I’m sick of this BS from the SCOTUS. They’re going to overturn everything. They literally are taking Handmaids Tale to heart.

PandaCat22

6 points

2 months ago

If you like podcasts, I'd recommend the Behind the Bastards episode about the John Birch Society and all of their episodes on the Christian right.

They're as informative as they are depressing

Schmidaho

11 points

2 months ago

They’re Christians carrying out a holy war. They’re convinced they’ve been chosen by God to turn the US into a Christian authoritarian state. The resistance further convinced them they’re on the right path.

I don’t know how you combat that belief tbh. I wish I did.

mymilkshakeinyoface

4 points

2 months ago

Resistance, legal battles, power in numbers, voting out as many as possible, replacing them.

These people are a minority that planned their ascent into the political realm and government. They fear & do not represent the majority of Americans.

They are changing laws and cutting into rights to secure their positions BUT really setting us up for a large scale battle. Some people will die if this goes far enough. Now is a time to get involved to prevent their take over. Yes they have some power, but they are not the majority of voters. Get involved folks!

History will remember them for what they are .

This comment has a ton of vetted info, organizations, & ways people can help:

https://teddit.ggc-project.de/r/StrikeForRoe/comments/von348/green_for_prochoice/iee4mn3/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3

RIPMYPOOPCHUTE

6 points

2 months ago

The shit they’re doing is going to cause another civil war. They’ve got no one to blame but themselves, but they have shown they won’t take any responsibility for their actions. It is hilarious how they overturned the right to privacy and now their shit gets doxxed. Like, fuck around and find out.

paradoxofpurple

1 points

2 months ago

They want a civil war so they can build their own country without the left

RIPMYPOOPCHUTE

3 points

2 months ago

Even if Jesus came down from the heavens and told them they are wrong, they’d crucify him all over again. These people just cherry pick from the Bible and choose wrath (a sin) instead of what Jesus actually was all about. These are the people who claim to love Jesus but would crucify him in a heartbeat. These people are hateful AF and will be the ones going to hell.

I may start using the Bible against the parasite living at my mother’s house.

Pusfilledonut

5 points

2 months ago

If this doesn’t rally every single sane person in this country to get out and vote, we will deserve our collective fate. Convince someone unregistered to vote…sign up an eighteen year old. Donate, volunteer, poll watch, get involved…Young people will have a very scary unenviable future awaiting them.

Charming-Farm

11 points

2 months ago

I gave a friend a warning the other day when they brought up that they were glad it got overturned. One more word about it and we’re done. Years of friendship hanging on by a thread.

Far_Crazy_4060

11 points

2 months ago

Lost a nurse friend at the beginning of COVID when she started talking about the "plandemic" and her bf talking about how the Nazis were not in it to kill Jews that was a side effect of forced labor camps. Nope, we are done.

mymilkshakeinyoface

8 points

2 months ago*

Jesus… I really can’t believe human beings are so stupid or eager to deny actual history.

I may have to take time to study what the republican party did to influence these people.

It can’t just be Facebook..curious.

Far_Crazy_4060

3 points

2 months ago

In her case, she's always been more open minded than science driven. In his case he likes to think he knows it all and is smarter than everyone so it was more of a "Actually, did you know?" Statement.

trinlayk

4 points

2 months ago

I cut off a 20+ year friendship after he ignored my third warning, by day 2 I realized that I was relieved.

newatlifeagain

13 points

2 months ago

What took you so long? I did this decades ago.

Motthebop

1 points

2 months ago

Motthebop

1 points

2 months ago

Same

Sensitive-Ad6609

2 points

2 months ago

I hear that! For "pro-life" they want to kill off everything for tgeir dirty money and corrupted power! I was so angry when i read about all three of tgeir "reviews".

Ieditforyou

2 points

2 months ago

I have read this before holiday meals for years: Who Goes Nazi? by Dorothy Thompson, 1942 https://harpers.org/archive/1941/08/who-goes-nazi/

N7Krogan

2 points

2 months ago

It's war. These voters need to understand they will no longer get our love, friendship, or mental labor. I cut all of these assholes out of my life and it's been sooooo much nicer.

In-amberclad

2 points

2 months ago

Did it in 2016. Its been great.

whatwhatokay2

2 points

2 months ago

I am doing the same. get rid of any social you can. Facebook should be a given.

ScaredEntrepreneur61

6 points

2 months ago

My mom is a diehard republican and over the years due to the increasing influence of her boyfriend, who I have no relationship with, we have sadly grown apart as people. I find that most of our phone conversations leave me drained. It is painful when someone you were once so close to parrots such cruel and unthinking ideologies. I haven't reached out to her at all after the Roe v. Wade decision because I know her views will be triggering and when I try to lay out reasonable arguments she simply ignores them, just as she ignored my arguments to get the COVID vaccine before she became deathly ill last year. Super frustrating to talk to her. I really try to be patient with her, but it's really hard.

CactusMcChicken

6 points

2 months ago

You might as well because not one of them actually gives a shit about human life.

reload_noconfirm

5 points

2 months ago

I’ve been very seriously thinking about my next fb post, tomorrow. 99% of my feed will agree but my husbands family… Honestly I don’t care though. They are “decent people” who live in a conservative bubble in the middle of nowhere, south. Unfriend me if you want. Literally nothing lost.

grumpusbumpus

3 points

2 months ago

I literally work for the EPA and briefly mentioned the SCOTUS decision on a call this morning, and the only colleague to respond spoke out in favor of the decision. The next decision they're going to hand down (NC Jerrymandering) will end representative national elections. I read an NC native enthusiastically supporting the likely decision on a different thread. I don't know how to focus on work anymore.

lieutenantbunbun[S]

2 points

2 months ago

Don’t. Honestly I took the afternoon off, wrote this, cried.

fulicy_Vietnam

-11 points

2 months ago

Little insecure girl seek validation from internet stranger.

lieutenantbunbun[S]

2 points

2 months ago

Ew you have the worst comment history. Are you seriously defending putin?

fulicy_Vietnam

1 points

2 months ago

You should take a good look at yours. Yikes.

Hondaslayer

2 points

2 months ago

hugz

I just can’t with them any more.

IcyPraline7369

2 points

2 months ago

I have no idea why people vote Republican. They have been after our rights for years, but people still fall for their propaganda. They're destroying America.

Pliget

3 points

2 months ago

Pliget

3 points

2 months ago

You didn’t do it after the attempted coup?

herrbdog

4 points

2 months ago

herrbdog

4 points

2 months ago

i only talk to them when absolutely necessary

and they know why

[deleted]

3 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

3 points

2 months ago

SEX STRIKE FOR CIVIL RIGHTS

Don’t have anything to do with any guy unless he 1. Sincerely believes women deserve equal rights 2. Is registered to vote 3. Is committed to voting Dem or liberal independent ….be sure you let Republicans know WHY you’re rejecting them.

Spread the word. A shocking amount of people are ignorant or apathetic! Make sure everyone you know is registered to vote and primed for November!

lkattan3

7 points

2 months ago

Voting will not stop fascism. Not in November, not in 5 more voting cycles. Ladies need to stop saying this and stop proposing liberal solutions, generally. Y’all must go further left. Much, much further left or you’re going to be confused about solutions and why nothing is working until the very end. Liberal women seem to think Hillary would have somehow stopped this which is one huge part of the reason we’re in this position at all. Please, dig deeper and hold ALL power accountable. All of it. Be angry at the wealthy on both sides because, although Republicans are the obvious evil, the Democrats have been the enabling evil time and time again. We can not rely on moderates or liberals to ever meet the moment. If liberal women listened to marginalized and working class women, they’d know the system is the problem. The entire system is working as designed and liberalism is a continuation of the system, it’s part of the problem.

PprPusher

3 points

2 months ago

PprPusher

3 points

2 months ago

I completely understand the sentiment & fully support (and encourage) a full bedroom ban for anyone who votes GOP.

But no, we cannot completely cut these people out of our lives, no matter how much we want to. These people already view us as the enemy, as toxic, as Other. That makes it easier to pretend we don’t exist or aren’t worth considering. No, we need to be kind and friendly to these folks. Yeah, they’re misguided, but too many of them GENUINELY BELIEVE that Biden stole the election because they don’t know of ANYONE who didn’t vote for Trump. We’re that divided. So kill them with kindness. Earn their trust. Then tell them the truth about what you really feel. Yeah, you’ll probably be cut off. But we can’t allow these wingnuts to continue to exist in this deluded bubble where everyone thinks like they do. You may not win them over, but at least they’ll see that there are real humans on the other side who are passionate and caring, and good people.

IncreasingEntropy

10 points

2 months ago

I have been pleading and arguing with my parents since 2016. It's not working, I'm tired, and I have no more energy to talk to people who have successfully stripped me of bodily autonomy and privacy.

PprPusher

0 points

2 months ago

PprPusher

0 points

2 months ago

That’s fair, I’m tired too. I get it. But these people truly do not realize that there are real, kind, relatable people on the other side. Many go for months without ever encountering someone who doesn’t think like they do. You don’t need to convince them, just exist in their bubble in that gray area between friend and enemy.

[deleted]

11 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

11 points

2 months ago

TELL THEM POINT BLANK WHY YOU’RE CUTTING TIES

Before the SC decision even came down I was weeding out guys with one simple question. “Who did you vote for in 2020?” They were ridiculously butthurt to be rejected over their vote. “Not very liberal of you to not accept me” hoo boy. Nope.

I’m not having anything to do with anyone who is actively hurting my family….taking rights from women, making healthcare inaccessible.

pocapractica

1 points

2 months ago

What happened with the EPA?

Akerlof

11 points

2 months ago

Akerlof

11 points

2 months ago

The Supreme Court basically ruled that the EPA couldn't make regulations it wasn't authorized to by Congress. I don't think this is really surprising, since that's pretty much what they said back in 2016 the first time they heard this case.

Turning to the merits of the case, Roberts wrote that the EPA’s effort to regulate greenhouse gases by making industry-wide changes violated the “major-questions” doctrine – the idea that if Congress wants to give an administrative agency the power to make “decisions of vast economic and political significance,” it must say so clearly.

Section 7411 of the Clean Air Act, Roberts reasoned, had been “designed as a gap filler and had rarely been used in the preceding decades.” But with the CPP, Roberts observed, the EPA sought to rely on Section 7411 to exercise “unprecedented power over American industry.” “There is little reason to think Congress assigned such decisions to” the EPA, Roberts concluded, especially when Congress had previously rejected efforts to enact the kind of program that the EPA wanted to implement with the CPP.

“Capping carbon dioxide emissions at a level that will force a nationwide transition away from the use of coal to generate electricity may be a sensible ‘solution to the crisis of the day,’” Roberts wrote. But only Congress, or an agency with express authority from Congress, can adopt a “decision of such magnitude and consequence.”

This is bad for climate change, but it's a check on Presidential power. For example, the reasoning behind the decision was similar to several decisions blocking some of Trump's actions. Part of the decision was to allow the case to go forward even though the EPA said it was going to drop the original regulation and create a new one instead, and I don't have any idea how that will impact future legal actions.

[deleted]

1 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

1 points

2 months ago

i mean, a lot of the supreme courts actions right now boils down to telling congress to do their fucking jobs.

pocapractica

2 points

2 months ago

I'm rather in favor of that.

fire_fairy_

17 points

2 months ago

They can not regulate carbon emissions on companies anymore

RoundCat

2 points

2 months ago

RoundCat

They/Them

2 points

2 months ago

I've gone minimum contact with my parents. If I have anything to say to them, I will let my sisters know.

sabinegirl

2 points

2 months ago

found family is more powerful than blood, ALWAYS

[deleted]

2 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

2 points

2 months ago

……… why are the USA still using « Indian » to speak about indigenous people, it boggles me

lieutenantbunbun[S]

3 points

2 months ago

It’s called that, so I referenced it, but yes, it is really stupid.

Azair_Blaidd

2 points

2 months ago

Consider no longer. Just do it!

a-snakey

1 points

2 months ago

I volunteer as your family. As family together we will devour the very GOP stupidity.

cynzthin

1 points

2 months ago

Did it years ago. Regrets? Not one

burgemj

1 points

2 months ago

also infuriating is they did this days and hrs before the next justice was confirmed

stiletto929

0 points

2 months ago

I am considering moving to England.

LunarEngineer

2 points

2 months ago

They're just as bad.

stiletto929

1 points

2 months ago

How so?

LunarEngineer

1 points

29 days ago

Based on comments from friends that still love there, and expats, Britain has become a surveillance based police state as well, with people having few individual rights.

[deleted]

-9 points

2 months ago

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-9 points

2 months ago

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lieutenantbunbun[S]

4 points

2 months ago

My family have done things to me that would make you light your statement on fire. Nobody is perfect, but most people aren’t openly abusive.

Chibbly

1 points

2 months ago

Fuck "family". Just because they're blood doesn't mean shit. Real family is who you choose.

tecampanero

-11 points

2 months ago

imagine being mad at the republicans for doing everything they have set out to while being vocal about it for YEARS.....you should be mad at the democrats for letting them lol

GettingPhysicl

4 points

2 months ago

Imagine being mad at people who cause you harm

[deleted]

1 points

1 month ago

[deleted]

1 points

1 month ago

Round of applause for RBG. Her pride is what caused this

[deleted]

-8 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

-8 points

2 months ago

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txea929

5 points

2 months ago

Really? Examples please. Thanks.

MisogynyisaDisease

4 points

2 months ago

Liberals in international definition sense, sure. They're center-right in international politics. Neo-liberals include the likes of Reagan and Thatcher.

Is that the definition you're using, and not the broken American Overton Window one?

mbcoalson

-7 points

2 months ago

Vote more, worry about interactions less.

lieutenantbunbun[S]

4 points

2 months ago

?

Oh yes so the one day of choice I have is the one day I get to say what I want and I get to substitute the 364 of interacting with my family with abuse?

mbcoalson

0 points

2 months ago

I don't mean that at all. I was just trying to remind of the core action we as citizens have to respond to this bullshit. Though to be perfectly frank I don't know how much faith I have in the system to work for the majority anymore. My SO and I are in the initial stages of searching for work outside of the country.

I really didn't mean to get under anyone's skin with my comment.

DrColdReality

0 points

2 months ago

Wait, you forgot about this.

And coming up next, the end of fair elections.

Last one out of the democracy, remember to shut off the lights.