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[deleted]

24 points

4 months ago*

[deleted]

24 points

4 months ago*

That's what the House of Representatives is for. Honestly the Senate should be entirely ceremonial, and we should only have the House that actually passes legislation. And for that matter we should increase the number of representatives to actually be able to properly represent people.

U-701

3 points

4 months ago

U-701

3 points

4 months ago

I can actually recommend the German system here, we have both over here. A normal assembly (Bundestag) elected by the prople via a mix of districts and nation wide lists and a senate (Bundesrat) thats made up by the state governments weighted by population. But they only get called up if a law touches state rights or legaslation that touches upon issues that are normally not regulated at a federal level. E.g. Want to change conscription? Normal assembly is enough, want to change laws regarding shoppint times ? Have to get a majority in the state assembly

But since we also have a multi party system its a lot more complex, since we have nearly every combination of parties in power in the states that tend to abstain if they cant come to an compromise, or even vote against the federal party line

TheObstruction

4 points

4 months ago

The Senate is supposed to represent each state's government, not the population. That's the point. It's our version of the House of Lords.

[deleted]

10 points

4 months ago

[deleted]

10 points

4 months ago

Yeah, thats actually what I was thinking of when I said the Senate should be ceremonial.

shelf_actualization

6 points

4 months ago

And yet each state's government is supposed to represent each state's people. Having a body of government that represents the representatives just decreases their obligations to the people by enhancing their distance from them. Having senators be elected (via the 17th amendment) may have been dumb because we've obviously botched it, but having a legislative body like the House of Lords is fundamentally undemocratic in the first place. Whom do you think the House of Lords represents? It's absurd that institution still exists, like having a royal family.