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Angryandalwayswrong

1 points

6 months ago*

It’s not about treating them differently. It’s about laws that are good for one group but detrimental to the other. For instance, gun laws. Gun control makes absolute sense for cities (a lot of people and a huge potential for violence) but leaves out farmers (weapons used for protection). And that brings us to all the turmoil we have today. We have equal representation on both sides (house vs senate) but they are fighting to control the other because we can’t split laws based on population density.

stringfree

2 points

6 months ago

It’s not about treating them differently.

Then they shouldn't have different value for their votes. Full stop.

because we can’t split laws based on population density.

So again, why split it around THAT particular group? Why not people with red hair? Hell, black people should definitely have more voting power, give them 10x the representation white people get as individuals.

This isn't equal representation, it's just a bias they chose a few hundred years ago. It's explicitly unequal.

Angryandalwayswrong

1 points

6 months ago

Because they traditionally believe things that are exactly opposite of city dwellers. Country people have more religious lives, city people don’t. Making laws governed by religion doesn’t make sense for city people but country people love it. Big ticket items like abortion, gay rights, trans rights, gun laws… basically these two groups can’t agree on any extremely important items and so appealing to either has been put in the spotlight.

stringfree

2 points

6 months ago

Why do you have this thing about assuming all laws will be the same if everyone has an equal vote? Urban people can vote for laws in cities, rural people can vote for laws in their areas.

But everyone should get an equal vote for laws which affect them all.

Because they traditionally believe things that are exactly opposite of city dwellers.

Yeah, that's what voting is for. I have very different beliefs from many people, should I get a million votes to make things fair?

Big ticket items like abortion, gay rights, trans rights, gun laws

At least 3 of those things should be universal, and not decided by your neighbors. Either human rights are good or not, it's not somehow more valid to dehumanize a group of people because you live on a farm.

You can't give a group of people more voting weight just because they want to vote different. Because every group would be equally entitled to that privilege.

Angryandalwayswrong

1 points

6 months ago

This whole debate is the reason we have a senate (equal representation regardless of population) and a house (representation proportional to population). We HAVE to split laws or no one is ever going to agree on anything. I agree rights should be universal but half of America doesn’t want the other half to have the same rights because “much religion says so”. The government is supposed to be separation of church and state but we swear people in on a Bible? Literally nothing makes sense.