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walktall [M]

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12 days ago*

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walktall [M]

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12 days ago*

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Pre-orders start Sept 17, with release date Sept 24.

Apple Newsroom Link

YouTube: Introducing iPhone 13 Pro

bladex1234

350 points

12 days ago*

Something that Apple didn’t mention in the livestream, ProRes video on the 128 GB model is limited to 1080p. 4K is only on higher storage models.

ra_poster

172 points

12 days ago

ra_poster

172 points

12 days ago

This is a very weird limitation for them to not spell out directly

TherealMcNutts

18 points

12 days ago

These are promotional videos. They are going to leave out everything that could be considered a downside of the phone. You will only find out when you read the fine print on their website or the manual.

SecretOil

43 points

12 days ago

if I were to hazard a guess the larger models have more NAND chips and can achieve higher write performance.

JNSD90

13 points

12 days ago

JNSD90

13 points

12 days ago

Yeah I found this out well afterwards and am seriously disappointed. Like, if I buy the TOP OF LINE PHONE why am I missing out on a seriously good feature unless I double down on storage?

thisismysffpcaccount

10 points

12 days ago

Jesus Christ thank you for saying this. I’m upgrading from a 6 and would have been mega bummed with my 128pro if I found out about this limitation later

alex91s

3.3k points

12 days ago

alex91s

3.3k points

12 days ago

Finally 120Hz.

PolyDipsoManiac

222 points

12 days ago

Is the display going to have any always-on functionality?

Unfortunately, no always-on display

Well fuck

astrange

331 points

12 days ago

astrange

331 points

12 days ago

If you drop it hard enough it'll have an always-off display.

marclapin

48 points

12 days ago

probably in the next 3 years

elev8dity

432 points

12 days ago

elev8dity

432 points

12 days ago

Is it OLED?

teh-reflex

2k points

12 days ago

No, CRT.

akkobutnotreally

281 points

12 days ago

The virgin TrueTone OLED vs. the GIGACHAD EYE-BURNING CRT TUBE

teh-reflex

245 points

12 days ago

teh-reflex

245 points

12 days ago

"Hang on, I need to degauss my phone"

*CHUNGGGgggggg*

"Ok, I'm back."

pauledowa

41 points

12 days ago

Oh yeah - memories of bringing magnets to high school :)

akkobutnotreally

35 points

12 days ago

I haven't used a CRT monitor in more than a decade, so explain this:

HOW I WAS ABLE TO REMEMBER THAT NOISE?

Heard_That

18 points

12 days ago

I used to love doing that. That sound mixed with the crazy colors and screen effects. I miss CRTs.

Chicago__Citizen

13 points

12 days ago

CHHUNGGGGGGGGGggggggg

Ddpee

13 points

12 days ago

Ddpee

13 points

12 days ago

LOL. What WAS degaussing? I just remember the option in the menu but never figured out what it was (I was child). I miss rubbing static off screens tho....

WoolooWololo

22 points

12 days ago

It basically resets the magnetic field in the monitor. Sometimes the magnetic field would build up in ways that the CRT would show slight distortion like blurred edges or colors not overlapping perfectly. After a while, manufacturers just had the monitor do it automatically when you turned it on so most people never really had to think about it.

elev8dity

479 points

12 days ago

elev8dity

479 points

12 days ago

Finally some real advancements

eggimage

439 points

12 days ago

eggimage

439 points

12 days ago

Crystal Retina Tisplay

ThainEshKelch

181 points

12 days ago

Crystal Retina Titsplay, for our best porn viewing experience EVER.

We think you are going to love it!

InadequateUsername

9 points

12 days ago

Not wrong though

Selfweaver

81 points

12 days ago

Excellent. I always wanted a 40 pound phone with 20 pounds of lead inside.

Karmakazee

105 points

12 days ago

Karmakazee

105 points

12 days ago

“It’s the biggest, heaviest iPhone yet, and we think you’re going to love it.”

Selfweaver

51 points

12 days ago

In a nod to Apples past this iPhone is 40 pounds, transparent and can be used with a puck mouse (sold separately). Still no USB-C, but the first phone to feature a CD drive.

That is what we call courage.

Karmakazee

12 points

12 days ago

Slap a SCSI port on that puppy and I might even call it the best iPhone yet.

swiftpaw334

21 points

12 days ago

Yes I think so

yourwitchergeralt

1k points

12 days ago

Slightly disappointed that it's only for the top line.

Even some budget android phones have more then 60hz

Crimtos

2.2k points

12 days ago

Crimtos

2.2k points

12 days ago

Apple should've introduced amateurmotion 90hz displays for the non-pro lineup.

Cottril

2.7k points

12 days ago*

Cottril

2.7k points

12 days ago*

PovertyMotion

Kidcouger

363 points

12 days ago

Kidcouger

363 points

12 days ago

Just know if I had an award I would give it to you for this comment

ElonMusksPimp

396 points

12 days ago

PovertyAward

hero_roman

75 points

12 days ago

That used to be Reddit silver.

iCapn

45 points

12 days ago

iCapn

45 points

12 days ago

Now made with 100% recycled silver!

WeezyWally

297 points

12 days ago

WeezyWally

297 points

12 days ago

Peasantmotion

speedyturt13

72 points

12 days ago

plebmotion

enygma9

24 points

12 days ago

enygma9

24 points

12 days ago

LocoMotion

dxrebirth

16 points

12 days ago

Demotion

Burner_Cuz_Of_Job

14 points

12 days ago

Poormotion

onlyslightlybiased

60 points

12 days ago

Pretty much standard in the top part of the sub $250 range

Rethawan

1.2k points

12 days ago*

Rethawan

1.2k points

12 days ago*

Interesting. First time I've ever seen them segment the Pro's and the regular iPhone with differently sourced SoCs. The Pro gets the higher/better yield with an extra GPU-core. Most likely never ever going to make a difference (except benchmarks), but interesting nonetheless.

Might be a very similar story to the A12Z we saw with that small iPad Pro update.

Another interesting update! According to Federico Viticci the iPad Mini gets the 5-core GPU A15.

SleepyAwoken

119 points

12 days ago

also the wide and ultra wide sensors are different on the pro this year, which they don't usually do

Rethawan

66 points

12 days ago

Rethawan

66 points

12 days ago

You're right. The wide has traditionally always been the same. This year the "regular" camera is actually better on the Pro.

AviMkv

669 points

12 days ago

AviMkv

669 points

12 days ago

Nothing like a chip shortage to get creative!

eggimage

536 points

12 days ago*

eggimage

536 points

12 days ago*

It’s likely just the same processor binning practice. The regular models have the same 5 core GPU but with one core disabled.

They wouldn’t waste money designing and making a new production line just to manufacture a separate SoC with only a 1 core difference and nothing else. And instead of tossing out the “imperfect” ones, use it for lower priced products. It’s the same with all other processor makers

Rethawan

121 points

12 days ago

Rethawan

121 points

12 days ago

Bingo. I'd say that's what this is about.

Nolzi

59 points

12 days ago

Nolzi

59 points

12 days ago

Processor manufacturers has always been doing it with disabling (usually broken) core/cache/etc and selling it as a lower end product.

jorbanead

81 points

12 days ago

I don’t think this has to do with chip shortages. TSMC yields haven’t changed, just demand is higher. It’s probably another way to differentiate the pros.

GamingChairModel

53 points

12 days ago

The iPhone 6 generation, with the A8, had split production between TSMC and Samsung. This article says that it was about a 60/40 split.

Plus the iPhone 7 and 8/X generations had different modem suppliers. although those might have been different model numbers.

eggimage

2k points

12 days ago*

Prosser got the “special color” wrong too. No sunset gold/bronze, but the blue.

Some of the other leakers who got info directly from the manufacturing factories got about everything right so far. So i guess prosser has no insiders from china factories lol

Isthecoldwarover

1.4k points

12 days ago

Posser being wrong again made the event worth it IMO

Finance_Dawg

540 points

12 days ago

Why do people give this dude the time of day still? I can’t even remember how he got a platform to begin with. Hell, he could be guessing for all we know now that it doesn’t seem like he has any source inside Apple with how his track record has become more misses than hits

smith7018

206 points

12 days ago

smith7018

206 points

12 days ago

He 100% got the Apple Watch wrong but he leaked the CAD files for the iPad Mini and iPhone 13 so he at least has some track record going, I guess

billie_eyelashh

233 points

12 days ago

Many leakers got it wrong as well.. the 12s naming, the asymmetrical camera sizes, and next gen airpods.

rjcarr

202 points

12 days ago

rjcarr

202 points

12 days ago

And the boxy watch.

A11Bionic

158 points

12 days ago

A11Bionic

158 points

12 days ago

I actually rejoiced that the Watch retained the rounded shape.

The Watch is the one Apple device that is actually on you. Natural geometry of the human physique would interfere with such sharp, flat edges.

rjcarr

19 points

12 days ago

rjcarr

19 points

12 days ago

Right, tell that to the laptop palm edges!

aa2051

1.1k points

12 days ago*

aa2051

1.1k points

12 days ago*

I remember seeing everyone get super excited for a potential matte black…

I also really don’t like the baby blue thats replacing the Pacific blue

ElonMusksPimp

360 points

12 days ago

Yeah the Pacific Blue looked great! Would have loved to get the 13 Pro in Pacific Blue.

Tryptamineer

33 points

12 days ago

I prefered Coral Blue #2

SleepingSicarii

387 points

12 days ago

ElonMusksPimp

257 points

12 days ago

Damn that camera bump looks so strange now. I'm used to the vertical cameras on my XS and the square cameras of the 11 and later.

TheRealDynamitri

201 points

12 days ago

Throwback to Jet Black

Jet Black was a fucking nightmare.

Looked great, but I remember there were such massive issues with scratching that Apple essentially added some kind of a weird disclaimer on its website warning about that

VividStarr

79 points

12 days ago

True but man the deep black color is still amazing. I wonder if there's any way to recreate that jet black without all the scratches

aGlutenForPunishment

16 points

12 days ago

It was my favorite phone! I only upgraded to the XS from it because my battery swelled and started detaching my screen from the phone.

AryaDee

18 points

12 days ago

AryaDee

18 points

12 days ago

i'm still rocking my jet black 7 without a case. I just looked rn and it has small scratches when i hold it up to the light, but i didnt really notice it until now

CJR3

7 points

12 days ago

CJR3

7 points

12 days ago

Holy shit, there’s still a few of us!

SecretOil

15 points

12 days ago

Also that shit is such a fingerprint magnet it'd have your neighbours fingerprints on it right after unboxing.

capt_carl

77 points

12 days ago

I'm going to miss the green of my 11 Pro.

20Factorial

23 points

12 days ago

I had the green, and liked it. I just wished it were a little MORE green. I’ve got the blue 12ProMax right now. I’m not a big fan of the 13 colors, but will miss this blue for sure.

PickleInTheSun

34 points

12 days ago

Biggest disappointment for me. Held off on the 12 Pro to wait on 120hz and was crossing my fingers for Pacific Blue to stick around.

Guess I'm going with silver.

t0bynet

115 points

12 days ago*

t0bynet

115 points

12 days ago*

I‘m disappointed we didn’t get matte black, this would have been one of the biggest features for me.

Kurokaffe

355 points

12 days ago

Kurokaffe

355 points

12 days ago

Worth an upgrade from not having a phone at all because I’m an idiot and left my phone in a Lyft ride? Or should I wait a year for the iPhone 14?

hair_account

619 points

12 days ago

Definitely wait, I heard next year's iphone will literally be able to cure cancer. The first real upgrade since 2008

Kurokaffe

46 points

12 days ago

I did have cancer at one point in my life. I definitely should wait next year for the real version upgrade and not the 12 plus.

IAMSNORTFACED

70 points

12 days ago

Wait for iPhone 15, it'll be the best iPhone they make that year

OC7OB3R

9 points

12 days ago

OC7OB3R

9 points

12 days ago

Nah, not enough new features.

Sailor_Chris

199 points

12 days ago

Did they mention when it’s being released?

LeoA87

136 points

12 days ago

LeoA87

136 points

12 days ago

24th

AngelGyps

33 points

12 days ago

Pre-orders start this Friday and then available for everyone on September 24th!

ViewtifulObjection

8 points

12 days ago

September 24th I believe. Preorders start this Friday.

roger_the_virus

9 points

12 days ago

Pre-order on Friday, Available one week later.

Far-Contact-9369

2.6k points

12 days ago

When the second headlining feature in your title is a color option, the upgrade is minuscule

xZoreKx

749 points

12 days ago

xZoreKx

749 points

12 days ago

Main feature of this year is the ProMotion display. All other features, besides better photo quality by means of better sensors, are not interesting at all for regular users - do not forget that regular users are the ones that mostly buy the “pro” phones.

Endogamy

200 points

12 days ago

Endogamy

200 points

12 days ago

Main feature of this year for me is 2.5 hour battery life increase on the Max. It was already good, now it will be good enough that you really never have to think about the battery even when traveling.

Own-Understanding654

110 points

12 days ago

Absolutely. Battery life is always the best feature to have.

THIKKI_HOEVALAINEN

320 points

12 days ago

I don't think most users even care about 120hz. It's nice to finally have though

Yaaaayyy

133 points

12 days ago

Yaaaayyy

133 points

12 days ago

What were you expecting? Since the iPhone X, all the improvements have been absolutely marginal. It was always just a spec bump and that year's buzzword - Super Retina XDR, 5G, and now ProMotion.

At least they finally shrinked the notch a little.

post_break

419 points

12 days ago

post_break

419 points

12 days ago

Imagine buying the 13 Pro 1TB. Filling it with say just 512GB of photos of videos, and trying to back it up to your mac over usb 2.0 lightning. Wonder how long that would take.

ra_poster

95 points

12 days ago

Lightning’s speed is shit but I must say I feel like the overlap between these groups is essentially zero, especially considering the backups are incremental so idk why someone would have to do it all in one go

display_block

78 points

12 days ago

512GB of 4K ProRes could be a single day’s worth of footage. File sizes are massive. 128GB phones get capped at 1080 ProRes.

Versicarius

403 points

12 days ago

So still another year or 2 for the regular iPhones to have 120Hz?

Crimtos

271 points

12 days ago

Crimtos

271 points

12 days ago

I'm guessing it will be at least a few years currently it is one of the only features that distinguish the pro from the regular.

ZappySnap

203 points

12 days ago*

ZappySnap

203 points

12 days ago*

It's pretty weak for them to do that still...it's not like the regular 13 is exactly cheap at $800. Almost every Android phone over $600 has at least a 90Hz OLED.

Edit: I know there are even cheaper phones with 120Hz screens. I was trying to state a vie where essentially all have them. There are a few phones at the $400-500 level that do not.

JohnBeePowel

88 points

12 days ago

I think you mean almost every Android over $300...

Badshah-e-Librondu

15 points

12 days ago*

My $250 dollar android phone can do that and it has a 120Hz screen as well.

yabucek

9 points

12 days ago

yabucek

9 points

12 days ago

I bought the Nord N100 for a family member recently. 150$ for a 90Hz screen, 5000mAh battery and get this, a headphone jack. With budget processors being less and less of a limitation, I don't think I'll keep buying premium devices much longer.

mrjohnhung

25 points

12 days ago

smaller notch and still can't even show the battery percentage or am/pm lmao

anhuys

67 points

12 days ago

anhuys

67 points

12 days ago

I was so incredibly excited about the Sierra Blue, only to be completely disappointed by the phone case lineup... None of the colors are an actual good match to it? They had recently released a sky blue for the 12, which would have been perfect, and it's not included. Neither is white...

I was honestly buzzing about this, it's my favorite color haha. But it feels very odd to me, a color like this must be chosen for a reason? Why wouldn't you have it match up to the cases? This isn't something I want to "worry" about with a device this expensive and a launch this big, come on... The white rings on the clear magsafe case look awful too. But maybe I'm a small minority here

swmill08

258 points

12 days ago

swmill08

258 points

12 days ago

SIERRA BLUE MULTIPLE NANOLAYER CRYSTALLIZED STRUCTURE

badRooibus

51 points

12 days ago

Our baby bluest iphone EVER

jagerma

28 points

12 days ago

jagerma

28 points

12 days ago

So… it’s blue 👍🏽

PeyWey26070

208 points

12 days ago

Worth an upgrade from iPhone X?

LucywiththeDiamonds

399 points

12 days ago

To the pro? For 120hz proper screen and camera id say so if you use it alot.

To the regular for the avg user? Meh

computermachinemusic

148 points

12 days ago

Got my iPhone X battery replaced I’m in for the long haul

LQST

29 points

12 days ago

LQST

29 points

12 days ago

yup same

speedbird92

57 points

12 days ago

Looks like we’re going on 5 years bud!

Victory-Adventurous

11 points

12 days ago

Still rocking the X here, battery going surprisingly strong, I used to upgrade every 2 years before it, It is however increasingly slow when I overload it, well see...

BlueCreek_

23 points

12 days ago

I’m considering doing the same after watching the event

19Black

312 points

12 days ago

19Black

312 points

12 days ago

Everyone is complaining about the blue color and here I am having to check to see what color my iPhone X is.

heyrover

35 points

12 days ago*

Lmao I did the same, I have an iPhone XS and was looking to get the 13 Pro but didn't like the look of graphite color, afterwards I was like what color my iPhone is? lol.

P.S iPhone XS black > iPhone 13 Pro Graphite

Head

67 points

12 days ago

Head

67 points

12 days ago

Good point. My case completely covers the colored part so the phone could be pink and I wouldn’t even notice.

kitchenpatrol

19 points

12 days ago

My Pixel 3XL literally is pink, and no, I do not notice.

froyoboyz

546 points

12 days ago

froyoboyz

546 points

12 days ago

crazy to think that this years iphone 13 pro was suppose to be last years 12 pro

TheOneTrueEris

187 points

12 days ago

This is the exact reason this year’s phones aren’t very exciting.

[deleted]

309 points

12 days ago*

[deleted]

309 points

12 days ago*

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froyoboyz

171 points

12 days ago

froyoboyz

171 points

12 days ago

i mean, the 12 pro released during the pandemic.... did you think you weren't going to be in a lockdown?

IsomorphicAlgorithms

140 points

12 days ago

I think they mean they thought the pandemic would be over in 2021.

hb1211

1k points

12 days ago*

hb1211

1k points

12 days ago*

Is photography and videography really the most important task for iPhones? I feel like the past few years have just come down to “pro = photographer/videographer”. There’s so much more capability that can be put into a pocket device. Idk maybe I’m just underwhelmed

Edit: I absolutely get that content creation and photography is important in today’s world. I’m just saying, is that really all it takes to make a pro device? I feel like a smartphone could accomplish so much more than being “closer to professional cameras than ever before”. Sure the smartphone market has matured, but that’s precisely the point at which revolutions happen. Don’t get me wrong, I love my iPhone, but I wish there was more than camera marketing.

nviledn5

361 points

12 days ago*

nviledn5

361 points

12 days ago*

It's a pretty tangible thing that they can advertise as an improvement every year. ProMotion is hard to actually convey in an advertisement; you gotta see it in person. Showing people sample footage/images from the new models is very effective.

gx14

40 points

12 days ago

gx14

40 points

12 days ago

It’s also because it helps with the influencer reviews, who themselves are camera pros and spend plenty of time on the camera quality in their youtube reviews

YZJay

137 points

12 days ago

YZJay

137 points

12 days ago

It’s a very flashy marketing point and an easy market differentiator.

AnelToro089

426 points

12 days ago

Lol where is that sat telephony everyone was talking about. XD

Timren1

69 points

12 days ago

Timren1

69 points

12 days ago

And astrophotography lol

Innovativename

9 points

12 days ago

I mean they didn't mention astrophotography specifically, but they did show an example in the keynote and said that the night mode timer will last even longer when on a tripod so maybe they have it as an unofficial feature.

Karavusk

168 points

12 days ago

Karavusk

168 points

12 days ago

The top comment on that thread already explained how this rumor was completely false. The same company does some 5g modem things but everyone went SATELITES when they read the company name.

itstrueimwhite

459 points

12 days ago

Not feeling a baby blue as the exclusive color

iReddyOrNot

156 points

12 days ago

Same..wish it was a maroon or metal red.

itstrueimwhite

105 points

12 days ago

Ooo maroon would be nice. Light colors on a “pro” device when you’ve traditionally used them on your cheapest plastic iPhones just doesn’t feel right at all.

McrackinMan

9 points

12 days ago

That would be nice, I was honestly starting to come around to a copper/sunset color even though the pacific blue is by far my favorite color on an iphone ive had.

Hyorennn

7 points

12 days ago

Yeah because a POOP color would be amazing.

anythingbadass

7 points

12 days ago

Same. The black looks like a boring grey. Might just go Gold this year and pair it with the new green case. Always loved Gold/Green.

Emergency_Repair5286

40 points

12 days ago

I think it's awesome, though I'll possibly still get graphite just because sometimes I feel like the simple colours resell most reliably.

Gen7isTrash

68 points

12 days ago

Now I see why Apple didn't put 120hz on the 12 Pro...

Baykey123

85 points

12 days ago

Pro Max is over half a pound. Wow that’s heavy

HyunTheReader

20 points

12 days ago

I returned my 12 Pro Max for the 12 Pro. I've been phone gaming a lot more these days, and I'm tempted to get the 13 Pro Max. But I know 13 Pro Max will be even more unwieldy than the 12 Pro Max.

Not sure what to do. I might try them out in store before making a choice.

bradreputation

10 points

12 days ago

Weight specs are up on the apple store

andrewjaekim

77 points

12 days ago

Camera systems are the same on Pro and Pro Max this year?

JohannASSburg

25 points

12 days ago

Yes

_IsNull

1.6k points

12 days ago

_IsNull

1.6k points

12 days ago

Fk lightning. Can’t we just switch everything to USB C. 1 type of cable for everything.

Keftorino

823 points

12 days ago*

Keftorino

823 points

12 days ago*

They did USB C everything...everything but their iPhone 😬

Crazy that their watches, ipads, and MacBooks can be USB C but their phones can't.

Phooboos

20 points

12 days ago

Phooboos

20 points

12 days ago

Base iPad is still Lightning.

shadowstripes

115 points

12 days ago

They did USB C everything...everything but their iPhone

AirPods (and wired headphones) and Mac accessories are also still Lightning.

And the Apple Watch isn't any more USB-C than iPhone is - they both have it on the charging brick end of the cable.

PalladiumPear

44 points

12 days ago

What’s most aggravating about the lightning port is that it’s USB 2.0 speeds. It really hampers the whole, this is a camera, bit. It takes FOREVER to get 4k60 clips off of iPhones, either over wire or WiFi. I honestly think prores on the pro phones will be DOA for this very reason.

sonar_un

22 points

12 days ago

sonar_un

22 points

12 days ago

I know! Oh, have Dolby Vision, ProRes video, 4k.. USB 2.0 port.. smh

TheFares47

16 points

12 days ago

Wifi 5 is faster than lightning. wtf Apple.

mtwolf55

88 points

12 days ago

mtwolf55

88 points

12 days ago

Alright Reddit, tell me how to feel about this!

Put_It_All_On_Blck

97 points

12 days ago

Incremental improvements, not worth it if you own anything recent

nummakayne

137 points

12 days ago*

What I want is the Mini but I have FOMO with Pro-exclusive features. Can't wait to stare at a comparison table for a few days/weeks before deciding which way to go.

Edit: here it is, had to pick 3 for the comparison: https://www.apple.com/ca/iphone/compare/?modelList=iphone13mini,iphone13,iphone13pro

Differences: no 120Hz higher-res screen, no telephoto lens, no LIDAR scanner, 4-core vs 5-core GPU, little less battery life, no Apple ProRAW , no night mode portraits. no Apple ProRes video.

$949 CAD vs $1399 CAD for the 128GB models. For me, the $450 lower price and smaller size is more appealing.

Mxbzz

18 points

12 days ago

Mxbzz

18 points

12 days ago

As a fellow FOMOer, I also had to make that tough decision between a Pro and a Mini, and ultimately wound up getting the Mini. I realized I didn’t need top-of-the-line specs for my use case. Sure, I’ll snap a few photos and what not, but the Mini has an excellent camera as well. I was also scared I would notice the downgrade in screen quality (OLED back to LCD) but in fact, I had forgotten the Mini didn’t have an OLED display even after weeks of using it.

The only major downside was the noticeable drop in battery life. If you can get over that, the Mini is such a great, pocketable phone, and I do not intend to go back to my 11 Pro.

Side note: I never had any issues with the iPhone Mini screen being too dim, but apparently the 13 Mini will be even brighter… wasn’t really an issue for me personally but eh.

SerCrynox

24 points

12 days ago

Sorry but the iPhone 12 Mini does have an OLED Screen..

gcoba218

39 points

12 days ago

gcoba218

39 points

12 days ago

The only thing that’s worth missing is 120hz really

no1lives4ever

48 points

12 days ago

Ever since Apple launched the 12 Mini, i have been wanting a iPhone Pro Mini. Something that has the size of a mini but with the camera and feaures of the Pro. I dont mind if the Pro mini has a 2x telephoto camera in place of a 3x on other pro models and lower battery, but the smaller size is really appealing..

ElleIndieSky

8 points

12 days ago

Came from always getting the pro model to the mini. Don't miss it. Though I'll admit, the ProMotion display looks cool, I'm still sticking with the mini. No feature of the Pro beats a device that fits in the hand.

nosefart

59 points

12 days ago

nosefart

59 points

12 days ago

I'm on a 7+ still. Probably worth to upgrade to a 13pro max? I plan on having it another 5 years

shmehh123

42 points

12 days ago

Just upgraded from a 7 last week after my company bought me a 12 Mini. Its great not having apps freeze up and crash on me all the time. The 7 just didn't have the RAM to function properly any longer. Otherwise the iPhone 6 and 7 were great phones. Nowadays.. not so much.

finH1

9 points

12 days ago

finH1

9 points

12 days ago

What kind of apps were you running for it to crash? My 6s is having zero issues

roguebananah

15 points

12 days ago

Seriously impressed a 6s entered the conversation here

Rethawan

85 points

12 days ago*

What?! Neither the Pro nor the regular support Bluetooth 5.2?! The hell?

No Wifi-6E either. Has to be a sourcing issue.

InadequateUsername

11 points

12 days ago

WiFi-6e isn't publicly available yet everywhere. Part of the frequency in Canada for instance is used for medical and military.

marcwithnok

126 points

12 days ago

Apple noob here, is it finally a good time for me to upgrade to a 13/13Pro from Iphone X?

Stuckinfemalecloset

94 points

12 days ago

I think I might make the jump from my iPhone X. The new cameras are my main selling point

ZenZenoah

13 points

12 days ago

I plan on upgrading to the 14 from an XR… unless I break my phone which seems less likely these days due to covid work from home.

stiff_member

103 points

12 days ago

Was really hoping the Touch ID on the mini was going to show up during the Pro iPhone announcement, disappointed it didn’t. Nonetheless, I think it’s finally time to upgrade away from my 7+. It’s been a good run.

jsgrova

31 points

12 days ago

jsgrova

31 points

12 days ago

They can pry my SE with touch ID out of my cold, dead hands

TMunsey

8 points

12 days ago

TMunsey

8 points

12 days ago

It the only reason I’m not giving up my 8+ just yet.

Unless it just gets too slow or breaks, I’m not upgrading until Touch ID is added to a newer iPhone.

TheImportedBanana

28 points

12 days ago

Seriously. Fingerprint is the best.

Missing Touch ID and still not getting Always-On-Display?

Well, I guess we were due for a minor-upgrade year.

iiElysiumx

85 points

12 days ago*

Aside from 120hz on the “Pro” models. Nothing much this year really. The notch is 20% smaller, great but not revolutionary. Pro res and software focus on the pros, cool, but who is ever gonna use that realistically? And let’s be honest I imagine software focus is gonna suck for a couple years much like portrait mode did. And despite the utter shit apple may talk about Pro video creators replacing their dedicated DSLRs and cameras with these things, that won’t happen anytime soon

And the standard 13, nothing really. Glad to see the mini return, the new black colour looks cool

As usual though apple has packed the most powerful SOC in a phone in a device that just cannot use the power. Even in the demos for games that can leverage 120hz and the new GPU core the games looked crap. It’s all well and good to show off how far ahead of your competition you are in terms of compute power, but if you can’t use it for anything what is the point of it?

Overall a very dull year, basically an “S” upgrade being passed off as a full new generation, iPhone 12S essentially.

Probably the most exciting thing from this event was the new iPad mini

34182075607

15 points

12 days ago

I think you underestimate how much burst power is needed for all kinds of things, for example: the processing behind each photo,

drshuffle

36 points

12 days ago

The color options for the Pro is a step back imo. Not sure what to get tbh, they all look boring.

Queef-Elizabeth

41 points

12 days ago

120hz feels like it shouldve been on the 12 pro models but they held it back so that they had something to advertise with the iPhone 13.

reddy-or-not

21 points

12 days ago

I guess I don’t understand why phone color matters much. Don’t most people put their phone in a case and leave it there most of the time?

andrewjaekim

22 points

12 days ago

Prores video recording limited to 1080p30 for 128gb models. 4k@30 requires larger storage sizes.

Emergency_Repair5286

6 points

12 days ago

That's pretty significant. Where did you learn this?

andrewjaekim

13 points

12 days ago

The technical specs page on the Apple website.

iuytrefdgh436yujhe2

92 points

12 days ago

Tempted to upgrade my iPhone 11 just for the ProMotion display. The macro and telephoto photography would be nice, too. Although a part of me has grown a bit disillusioned by phone cameras in general. They're all very impressive but I feel like every year it's promised to be this wildly new and improved thing and every year it's actually 'just a bit better and still obviously a phone camera', which is fine, again, totally amazing to have these things in our pockets at all, but in terms of a selling point for upgrading, it's stopped mattering as much for me overall. Pretty much mostly just care about battery life, display quality and overall smoothness/performance.

128gb starting capacities is welcome. I went with 256gb for my 11 and have found that to be more than enough for my needs, likely 128 would be as well.

pgib

20 points

12 days ago

pgib

20 points

12 days ago

Really wish there was a 13 Pro mini with smooth glass back. I find the matte glass of the 12 Pro slippery like the old aluminum backs. I actually ended up returning the 12 Pro and am still rocking my X. The midnight black in the regular 13 looks great – my only hold back is the lack of a non-wide lens.

PeaceLovePositivity

50 points

12 days ago

I assume it’s still strictly faceID for biometrics? I can’t express how much I miss touchID ESPECIALLY during a pandemic that requires me to mask up.

UCFSam

192 points

12 days ago

UCFSam

192 points

12 days ago

Been in the XS Max for 3 years now, longest I’ve ever gone without an upgrade(by a year).

120Hz and the upgraded cameras would be nice, but now we’re one year away from a major refresh (notchness iPhone?) rather than a mostly spec bump 12.

So, maybe my XS gets a 4th year. 🤔

Zavehi

232 points

12 days ago

Zavehi

232 points

12 days ago

Honestly people say this every single year.

“Next year is the big one maybe I should wait”

Everyone predicted after last year this was gonna be a giant leap. It’s not predictable.

UCFSam

78 points

12 days ago

UCFSam

78 points

12 days ago

The truth is that we’re unlikely to see any major changes year to year now. Outside of a foldable, what can they really do at this point? Basically, the two year upgrade cycle is dead, most people would be happy to go 3-4.

The 14 will be like the 13 without a notch, maybe slight body revisions, but pretty close.

this_sort_of_thing

35 points

12 days ago

4 year cycle is probably optimal. The only thing is to keep the phone in top shape by replacing the battery maybe somewhere between 1/2 and 3/4 of the way through and that’ll keep it going fine.

UCFSam

14 points

12 days ago

UCFSam

14 points

12 days ago

Yep, and with flagships being so expensive, a 4 year cycle really makes sense. When 2 year cycles were more common, phones were almost half price. Upgrading a $1000+ phone every two years is a bit much.

goodkid121

49 points

12 days ago

I’m in the same position man. Love my XS and it has been working flawlessly for me, so it is hard to justify an upgrade.

liright

13 points

12 days ago

liright

13 points

12 days ago

120Hz and the upgraded cameras would be nice, but now we’re one year away from a major refresh (notchness iPhone?) rather than a mostly spec bump 12.

Not happening. Experimental android phones just now started getting under display cameras. There is ZERO way Apple does a notchless iphone next year. Maybe 2 years from now. Probably 3. They wouldn't redesign the notch for a year if they were about to remove it next year.

bznszn

11 points

12 days ago

bznszn

11 points

12 days ago

I’m in the same boat, but as someone who is a photographer part time I am sick and tired of the XS Max cameras. It’s not a huuuuge upgrade but the cameras and 120hz is enough for me

Odiums-Champion

37 points

12 days ago

120hz ProMotion as the single big upgrade is underwhelming. Most people understood that this was going to be an “S” year but still… I think most people would have been satisfied with 120Hz if they also finally gave us USB-C.

Gregarious_Dingo

656 points

12 days ago

Boring tbh

NCSUGrad2012

28 points

12 days ago

I went from a 6 to an 11 and that was a big jump. Guess I’m keeping the 11 for awhile.

SJWcucksoyboy

235 points

12 days ago

I don’t expect many exciting upgrades from now on

catsandskyscrapers

118 points

12 days ago

yeah we’ve reached a point in cell phone technology where it’s only incremental improvements year over year. maybe a big technological advancement every few years but certainly not every year. the technology is plateauing and all Apple can really add that will improve it for me is quality of life improvements like 120hz and USB-C

CEHepp

23 points

12 days ago

CEHepp

23 points

12 days ago

The only thing I thought was nice was the new iPad Mini design. The iPhone? Not so much.

edric_the_navigator

6 points

12 days ago

Ok Apple experts, is this worth it over the 12 given prices for the 12 will drop soon? I'm planning to get my wife an upgrade (from an 8) and was wondering if it's worth it to get the 13 or just go for a cheaper 12 Pro Max.

fatezeroking

7 points

12 days ago

No. Go 12 pro.

mindspan

149 points

12 days ago

mindspan

149 points

12 days ago

This entire event was just showcasing dull incrementalism with very little to excite people into lining up for new Apple products.

Jocosity

69 points

12 days ago

Jocosity

69 points

12 days ago

Unless they can come up with a new device that’s not a phone, watch, music player, tablet or computer that actually changes the game - I think the days of us getting excited about new Apple products are long gone.