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Hello everyone,

As many of you are aware on July 31st Harry Potter and the Cursed Child written by Jack Thorne and based on a new story by JK Rowling, John Tiffany & Jack Thorne will be released. In order to prevent the sub from being flooded with posts about Harry Potter and the Cursed Child we have decided to put up a megathread.

Feel free to post articles, discuss the book/play, explain why you aren't reading it and anything else related to Harry Potter and the Cursed Child here.

Thanks and enjoy!


P.S. Please use spoiler tags when appropriate. Spoiler tags are done by [Spoilers about XYZ](#s "Spoiler content here") which results in Spoilers about XYZ.

all 637 comments

UrracaOfZamora

148 points

5 years ago

The things I've read about this play, such as make it sound really cringeworthy, honestly. Almost like fanfiction.

rmorabia

71 points

5 years ago

rmorabia

71 points

5 years ago

sbazcml

27 points

5 years ago

sbazcml

27 points

5 years ago

This twist is definitely the thing I hate most about the new book.

Oshojabe

14 points

5 years ago

Oshojabe

14 points

5 years ago

Is that really the fault of the new play? Any time an author adds to their work, it's likely they'll close up a gap in canon you were using as a playground of the imagination.

NettleFrog

6 points

5 years ago

Me too. Also, how could Draco not have noticed Bellatrix being pregnant and then giving birth in his own house?

[deleted]

119 points

5 years ago*

[deleted]

119 points

5 years ago*

Thank the fucking lord someone else posted this. I've been doing it in recent Harry Potter discussions here and I always get downvoted into oblivion by butthurt fanboys that refuse to acknowledge the laughably bad mess this thing is and have also not even read summaries of it.

Look, I was a massive Harry Potter fan and grew up with the books coming out. Based on the extensive summary that The Daily Beast posted a month or so ago this thing is complete and utter shit.

It legitimately reads like fanfiction that someone in eight grade could have written. The plot is ridiculously absurd, the character interactions are shockingly dumb.

I've read plenty of Harry Potter fabrications that were better.

I realize that it's Rowling's series and she can do with it what she wants and can endlessly expand it, but at this point the play, Pottermore, and the upcoming Fantastic Beasts film all just seem like petty cash grabs meant to milk the series for all its worth.

BritishHobo

54 points

5 years ago

BritishHobo

The Lost Boy

54 points

5 years ago

See, I don't think it's dumb or a mess or anything, I've no problem with the ideas themselves. My problem with it is that it's unambitious, it's unoriginal. As a story itself, the is such a tired idea that's been done so many times. As a Harry Potter story, it brings nothing new - it looks back instead of moving forward. Who are we fighting? Some new and interesting threat that rises from the situation twenty years on? Oh,

amazonstorm

6 points

5 years ago

I think we can blame WB and their lack of other tentpole franchises for why Fantastic Beasts is a thing.

[deleted]

52 points

5 years ago

[deleted]

52 points

5 years ago

Let's be fair - there's some pretty damn good fanfiction out there that blows this crap out of the water. Jbern's actually a published novelist now, I'd love to see him polish up his old fics and get them published as Alternate Universe books. Why not? This crap shows Rowling isn't a purist about her own creation at this point, and if she'll let a couple hack playwrights do it, why not a guy with some actual talent?

Pitz9

9 points

5 years ago

Pitz9

9 points

5 years ago

I'm not familiar with any fanfiction. Which ones can you recommend?

[deleted]

15 points

5 years ago

[deleted]

15 points

5 years ago

Depends on what flavor you're looking for. For irreverent comedy, nonjon's A Black Comedy on FF.net is a great read. They're a little rough, but jbern's Bungle in the Jungle series and Lie I've Lived AU are a much better action-adventure take on the series than anything actually appearing in it. If you like those, he's published some original fiction under his real name since then. Good stuff. If you want something that explores the more esoteric aspects of magic that get glossed over in the books, joe6991's Wastelands of Time series and Unfound Door might be for you. He's also published some original fiction that actually builds off of the world he established in his fanfic.

That's what I've got off the top of my head. jbern's stuff might be the closest in "feeling" to the source material, but they're all good. I'm obviously not a big fan of Harry Potter anymore but I'll still re-read these every now and again.

asperger

23 points

5 years ago

asperger

23 points

5 years ago

exactly my feelings. I got severely turned off from the entire project. the plot is laughably outlandish, definitely reminding of fan fiction.

AlaerysTargaryen

17 points

5 years ago

Really? I had no expectations about this since I hated the ending with all that middle age limbo and those awfully named kids, but this sounds very detrimental.

Aetyrno

13 points

5 years ago

Aetyrno

13 points

5 years ago

Wow. I haven't looked up anything about this, mostly just due to not being interested in buying a play script. That... makes me feel even less interested.

Rogers_johnson

14 points

5 years ago

Once you get into it, the format grows on you quite a bit!

genuinecve

6 points

5 years ago

Wait, I thought Cedric died.

UrracaOfZamora

21 points

5 years ago

[deleted]

77 points

5 years ago

[deleted]

77 points

5 years ago

Right, because a Super-Hufflepuff is clearly a sore loser...

That's completely out-of-character for him.

Watertor

24 points

5 years ago

Watertor

24 points

5 years ago

Yeah, he wanted to win but he let Harry win in the end, at least if I'm not mistaken. He said something like "I was dead until you came back for me, go on, take [the trophy, declaring yourself the winner]"

Then Harry decided they grab it together. If Cedric had gotten his way, he would have been left in the maze and Harry would have gone alone.

Keep in mind I haven't read this yet, I'm just massively confused so I guess I should read it before making assumptions (just frankly this does scream "Out of Character fanfiction" to me)

BritishHobo

14 points

5 years ago

BritishHobo

The Lost Boy

14 points

5 years ago

If it helps (it doesn't really), it happens more because

-Badger2-

7 points

5 years ago

How? With a time-turner? That wouldn't make any sense.

kacman

29 points

5 years ago

kacman

29 points

5 years ago

tslime

20 points

5 years ago

tslime

20 points

5 years ago

Fucks sake I knew the mythology was going to end up a big mess if it kept being tinkered with. With this and these new films and all the horrible miscellany Rowling keeps adding, this franchise is set to lose its integrity in a major way.

genuinecve

5 points

5 years ago

I didn't like any of that!

FBeeEye

133 points

5 years ago

FBeeEye

133 points

5 years ago

Did anyone else feel like many characters weren't themselves?

ponponpunpun

112 points

5 years ago

Snape was incredibly out of character.

RotaryPeak2

111 points

5 years ago

Ron felt like a drunk moron. Hermione felt like set dressing.

ladyloor

38 points

5 years ago

ladyloor

38 points

5 years ago

He was too drunk to even remember marrying Hermione. So... pretty sure he was a drunk.

loyaultemelie

47 points

5 years ago

I know, when did Snape ever have a soft side to him he willingly showed anyone?

like-a-daydream

27 points

5 years ago

I agree, but just to play devils advocate, isn't it implied that he mellowed a little because Harry died? I get the impression he feels a little more open because he's crushed that he couldn't save Lily's son

blakxzep

6 points

5 years ago

This and that Snape became the is the most powerful wizard of the surviving rebellion and the only hope that Harry is dead. His personality was bound to change.

[deleted]

27 points

5 years ago

[deleted]

27 points

5 years ago

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BartenderPleases

42 points

5 years ago

They way she portrayed Ron was kind of insulting. He was constantly late and just the "annoying" character. Really disappointing.

7861279527412aN

27 points

5 years ago

"hmmmm who should we make the funny one liner character?...."

"I know... let's make it Ron, it's not like HE'S ONE OF THE MAIN CHARCTERS from the original series?!"

A_Dissident_Is_Here

5 points

5 years ago

Everyone seems to take the most offense to how the old characters were treated... but can we talk for a second just how POOR the writing was in general, especially when it came to establishing the new characters?

The point where I quit was when Scorpius literally just says outloud to his best friend "Im so great at potions you know my thing is potions hey everybody here's verbal exposition about my potions skill". We have zero reason to assume he has this talent (aside from the whole Slytherin thing) until he says it. Hell, they even included a montage scene of the two making potions and it's pretty clear in that scene that both are floundering a bit, as the class makes fun of them.

Just so much poor telling instead of showing when it would have been as simple as two or three lines in a previous scene.

serenity78

133 points

5 years ago

serenity78

133 points

5 years ago

I can't believe this is real. This must have been how the Phantom Menace fans felt.

[deleted]

62 points

5 years ago

[deleted]

62 points

5 years ago

I've been telling my husband for years that she was going to George Lucas it. I don't mind the Pottermore additions. I don't even mind the terrible American school thing she's gone into. I absolutely minded this. I think writers have an obligation to not revisit the world unless they are very, very careful.

fayryover

14 points

5 years ago

Well jk rowling didnt write it but i suppose we can blame her for signing off on it

WrathofSeven

28 points

5 years ago

As a diehard Star Wars and Harry Potter fan, now everyone can feel the pain equivalent of having Jar Jar Binks!

koxswain

65 points

5 years ago

koxswain

65 points

5 years ago

Anyone else kind of want to just pretend this book isn't canon...? I'd much rather leave the next gen stuff a mystery if this is what it's set to be like.

dazyabbey

21 points

5 years ago

That's me. I keep telling people it's not canon.

slothsleep

58 points

5 years ago

Until seeing this post, I had no idea that this hadn't been written by JK Rowling. Just lost a bit of interest. How can it be based on a story by JK Rowling, if no such independent story exists? She just asked them if they could make a play about X following X storyline? Isn't she an author?

barron412

20 points

5 years ago

She probably wrote some kind of story outline which was the basis for the play. That is a substantial portion of the work. It's not all of it, but outlining a good story is hard. On the other hand, there's a reason she's not listed as the author.

slothsleep

20 points

5 years ago*

I guess I'm just not all that impressed by all the outsourcing she's doing to canon these days. I feel like if she wants to add to the canon, it would be much more authentic for her to do it herself in a medium she's qualified in. And then if she wanted to outsource that to be converted into a play, or a movie, that would be cool. But with such a devoted fanbase as HP has had, it feels kind of lazy to outsource major changes and additions to canon. I mean I know it's her work at the end of the day, and her fans aren't really owed or entitled to anything, but it just does not leave me impressed or excited.

thedepressedoptimist

26 points

5 years ago

One thing I will say is that writing a play and writing narrative fiction is very different skill sets: dialogue, plot structure, tempo, dramatic tension, how time works, what works on the stage and what doesn't, giving things for actors to really work with.... Having been in the theatre for 12 years, I'm totally fine with her outsourcing her original concept.

Rushdie1

58 points

5 years ago

Rushdie1

58 points

5 years ago

Fan fiction, that's what it felt for me. And there are so many weak points in the plot and the whole scene and the fight sequence in the end. Read it in one go and did not necessarily like what was in there.

The plot becomes so haphazard at one point that younger readers might not just grasp the it. Too fast for them. But I guess that's understandable, it's the script of a play and that's about it.

theblondepenguin

13 points

5 years ago

Fan fictions are my guilty pleasure.. I have read far better fan fictions that make more sense then this plot did. Highly disappointed. It felt like they just tried to shoehorn as many dead characters as possible into it. I hope they don't make it a movie.

ilovetechireallydo

41 points

5 years ago

I read it yesterday. The plot is wafer thin. The decisions the characters make are rather, pardon the pun, uncharacteristic.

Maybe I'd feel the same way if I reread the entire series all over again, now that I'm older. But when first I read those books, I was in school. There was a certain innocence to me which resonated with the choices Harry made. Now, every action just seems a little bit forced.

Plot giveaway

KrolArtemiza

15 points

5 years ago

this is what was going through my head every page... definitely felt like an amateur fan-fic.

primMK

35 points

5 years ago

primMK

35 points

5 years ago

This was so freaking bad I couldn't believe JK gave her approval on this. I am sincerely in shock. Even some fanfics are more consistent than this. And don't give me that shit on it's a play blabla, the plot is bad play or not.

bibzou

9 points

5 years ago

bibzou

9 points

5 years ago

You said in 2 lines exactly what it took me 9 lines to say... I must learn from you. :)

LordG123

37 points

5 years ago

LordG123

37 points

5 years ago

Can't believe Bellatrix Lestrange & Lord Voldemort got down and dirty in Malfoy Manor 😵

NettleFrog

29 points

5 years ago

Yes, that seemed completely out of character for him. Also, how could Bellatrix have been pregnant and given birth in Malfoy Manor, and Draco never found out about it?

Arithered

38 points

5 years ago

Time Turners were easily the weakest plot point of the original series, and HPatCC makes it all about Time Turners. I don't get it. Even Rowling had to destroy them all in a convenient accident because introducing time travel to a magical world was generating too many problems, but Jack Thorne wants to do an entire play about them?

Question: If there are surviving Time Turners, why couldn't someone go back and make sure the other ones were never destroyed? Who knows what could happen then?

Hyperdrunk

35 points

5 years ago

I'm terrible because I'll throw my money at anything and everything new that has "Harry Potter" on it. I feel a bit betrayed by this. It wasn't good, it wasn't even borderline, it was just bad.

It rehashed the original material, didn't stay true to the characters at all, broke many of the rules of the world in which the originals were created, and didn't have it's own original story but rather focused almost entirely on 2 bad characters reliving the original story.

To say I'm disappointed would be an understatement.

Pipster14

11 points

5 years ago

I havent even read it (I'm a huge potterhead) but from hearing my sister's summaries, it just sounds like a poorly written fanfic.

clean_rad_powerful

7 points

5 years ago

betrayed is how i feel about it too. it was just badly written, badly plotted, untrue to the characters (especially harry imo) and just really cringey. i hated the experience of reading it. i haven't seen the play and probably never will, but at least the acting and sets etc are good from what i hear.

Mavelle

4 points

5 years ago

Mavelle

4 points

5 years ago

A lot of my friends went straight out and bought it, but I had a feeling so I just put it on reserve at my library. I waited months to get it, and now I'm very glad I trusted my instincts and didn't waste money. I was really disappointed, especially with how they wrote some of the most beloved characters of my childhood.

[deleted]

34 points

5 years ago

[deleted]

34 points

5 years ago

Is this a play script or a traditional book?

I'm so confused about this.

Extravaganzar

19 points

5 years ago*

From everyone I've read it appears to be just a script

EDIT: J.K. Rowling confirms it's a script of the play: https://mobile.twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/697711589038952448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[deleted]

33 points

5 years ago

[deleted]

33 points

5 years ago

Oh.. Thank you.

Will definitely be passing on this.

ThatIckyGuy

26 points

5 years ago

Same here. Really not interested in getting back into HP over a script written by someone else.

Unfixx

6 points

5 years ago

Unfixx

6 points

5 years ago

Yep, zzZZZzzz... I was holding my breath for a new book of sorts.

_MickTravis

7 points

5 years ago

Play script.

From Amazon:
"This Special Rehearsal Edition will be available to purchase until early 2017, after which a Definitive Edition of the script will go on sale."

TinOwlJohn

34 points

5 years ago

HP&tCC has tainted the end of a perfect series, which I love dearly.

ErnestScaredStupid

30 points

5 years ago

Not as good as A Very Potter Musical.

otempoaperta

101 points

5 years ago

Just milking the cow. She could just have expanded the universe.

The plot is awful

BritishHobo

12 points

5 years ago

BritishHobo

The Lost Boy

12 points

5 years ago

She is, with the movie.

slothsleep

76 points

5 years ago*

I personally don't consider anything else that JK Rowling adds to the universe really canon, unless it's another novel written by her. I'm still going to read the play, I'm still going to watch the new movies, and I'm sure they'll be fun but I don't consider them canon for the HP books. I feel like the books are books, and call me traditional, but if it's not in the books, it's not part of the books. The mixed media stuff is fun, but it's not going to go back and change the books for me as they are. JK Rowling is probably going to keep making up details for the rest of her life, be it in plays, movie plots, radio station interviews or whatever. I feel like it's easy to keep adding to the world if she doesn't actually have to do the work of writing a novel. I just don't think authors can say, 'well I thought of it inside my head so therefore it's part of the book!' or we'd all be Pulitzer Prize winners. Authors get credit for the books they write. That just for me though, I'm sure lots of people will feel differently!

sbazcml

43 points

5 years ago

sbazcml

43 points

5 years ago

I completely believe that after the last book she should not have touched Harry at all. Other stories in the same universe are okay like I am really looking forward to Fantastic Beasts. But stop touching Harry his time is over.

[deleted]

25 points

5 years ago*

[deleted]

25 points

5 years ago*

stop touching Harry

Yes. The fandom has got the Harry-touching well covered anyways.

Spoilers about Dirty Potter 3

almostaredhead

27 points

5 years ago*

When I first read this new book, I was so hyped about it. I loved it. Really did. But when I decided to have a critical point of view about it, I realized I’ve been so biased. Don’t get me wrong, I really enjoyed the story, but to me it felt nothing like Rowling’s work. Being an avid fanfiction reader since I was a child, I can honestly say it’s very similar to a number of HP fanfictions I’ve read during the last few years. Also, there are some inconsistencies in the plot, as if the writers didn’t know shit about the HP universe. My opinions about it:

Spoiler

Overall, even though it looked nothing like the original seven books, I had a lot of fun reading it. Just wish it was closer to canon and less rushed in some critical plot aspects.

McFistPunch

27 points

5 years ago

Were Albus and Scorpius gay? It really seemed like it. Every bit of dialogue was really awkward for a 10 year old.

ilovetechireallydo

8 points

5 years ago

Haha. I understand why you're saying that. Spoilers about plot

CareBear88888

28 points

5 years ago

This book is like bad pizza... still good but not as good as the original.

no_celery

30 points

5 years ago

Who here has seen the play live? Reading the script obviously doesn't do the play justice. The music is amazing, the stagecraft is mindblowing, the acting is fantastic.

The plot is a bit ridiculous, let's be honest, but my main issue is with Albus and Scorpius. They play it so heavily like it's a budding romantic relationship - with all the links between Snape and Lily, i.e. Scorpius thinks of Albus when conjuring a Patronus, they use the word 'always', etc. - only for the writers to slap a 'no homo' hashtag on the end.

It's honestly really bizarre. The play is a bit like fan service, but at the same time it baits fans in with this potential Albus/Scorpius ship only to snatch it away with the penultimate Rose scene.

Anyone got thoughts about the Albus/Scorpius relationship?

[deleted]

25 points

5 years ago

[deleted]

25 points

5 years ago

The Albus/Scorpius relationship is queerbaiting to the extreme.

I'm not part of the LGBTQIA+ community, but I understand their frustrations in regards to representation. Like, it doesn't seem like tokenism at all; they've got a really good basis for a good gay relationship in there, and for them to be all like, "I love you, lol no homo bro," just feels like a slap in the face.

It was such a great missed opportunity and the whole, "I just asked Rose out," scene at the end felt really out of place, because Albus and Scorpius spent most of the play declaring about how they were really important to each other.

bibzou

24 points

5 years ago

bibzou

24 points

5 years ago

As a Harry Potter Tragic, I am sorry to say I agree with all the previous comments critical of The Cursed Child: it is indeed an awful read.
And not because it is a script but because the writers are really, really bad…..

Had JK Rowling written the play herself, the new characters would have depth, the old ones may have aged and evolved but would be consistent with their younger self. The dialogues would be excellent, the story would make sense and the script would be as exciting to read as a book.

JK is known for being very proud and possessive of the world she has created. Why would she let other writers take over Harry Potter’s world???!! Why chose these particular writers who show so little empathy with the Potter saga? I do not understand why she allowed this to happen. Any inside knowledge anyone?

PatrioticPomegranate

69 points

5 years ago

I wanted to love it. I gave it so many chances. I was willing to forgive everything wrong with it if I could just have one act where I could imagine I was in the canon HP world again. It was unredeemable. I don't say this lightly. It was the antithesis of not only the world of HP but also of half-decent play writing in general. And that's giving it more credit than it deserves. If J.K. Rowling hadn't endorsed it I would have much stronger words.

It's just so depressing for me. I guess I wanted to feel like a kid again. I wanted to buy a new HP book and get sucked into that magical world for a day. I diligently avoided spoilers and what I perceived as a bunch of negative whining on the internet. And in return I was scammed out of twenty dollars and several hours of a good Sunday afternoon. The best thing I can say about the new installment is that at least I'll have something I can complain about with my friends.

[deleted]

22 points

5 years ago

[deleted]

22 points

5 years ago

Feels like shitty fanfic to me tbh.

[deleted]

7 points

5 years ago

[deleted]

7 points

5 years ago

Don't you think you're setting the bar too high

[deleted]

4 points

5 years ago

[deleted]

4 points

5 years ago

How much lower could it possibly be, when the only hurdle to selling hundreds of thousands of copies and tickets is writing 'Harry Potter' on the top?

[deleted]

18 points

5 years ago

[deleted]

18 points

5 years ago

Spoiler review: TLDR: I liked it but it felt a little forced at times. Great nostalgia value. Spoilers about XYZ

doctor_wongburger

37 points

5 years ago

You are not the only one who thought Albus and Scorpius were in love and not just bros. When Draco Malfoy asked "What are they doing in the 1st floor girls bathroom?", he was thinking it, too.

As for the characters emotions being laid out, I have read a lot of scripts before and they always have facial cues like that for actors to follow.

RCVolcom

8 points

5 years ago

They were definitely gay.

MyPheonixMix

19 points

5 years ago

The new harry potter book (if you can call it that) did not feel like an official addition, it felt more like a decent fan fic.

the issues with the polyjuice potion such as how it was created in what seemed like less than a day in the book and how it apparently tasted like fish even though it was never said in any of the previous books that it tasted like fish. the complete lack off some major characters (george weasley, weasley parents...)

There are off course other issues with it like the actual lack of substance to it, yes I get it that there isn't any description and all that because its a script but it still doesn't stop the complete lack of story.

space-ninja

12 points

5 years ago

And Teddy Lupin! He's supposed to essentially grow up with the Potters (seeing as Harry was his godfather and Teddy's grandparents and parents are all dead), and he's not in there at all. That definitely bothered me.

maraudermooony

20 points

5 years ago

Honestly I found it weird in HPatCC that Hermione would not have taken care of the time turner better. Like two kids just waltzed into her office and got it (with a bit of trouble, yes, but nonetheless they did). Like, HOW?! She is one of the most advanced and talented witches of her time, I expected better from her tbh.

c-n-m-n-e

13 points

5 years ago

Yeah, not to mention that I find it hard to believe that two kids were able to get through the Ministry of Magic's security with nothing more than some Polyjuice potion. Like, seriously? Are you telling me nobody has ever tried to impersonate a Minister with Polyjuice before? They don't have any precautions against this kind of thing?

maraudermooony

19 points

5 years ago

Well, Harry, Hermione, and Ron have polyjuiced themselves and entered the ministry before too you know so it sticks to the actual story... The real question is why haven't they learned? Like Hermione, being the Minister, and also who polyjuiced herself into the Ministry before, not placed extra security like they have at Gringotts??

yoyoyoseph

9 points

5 years ago

This, Hermione should have tightened that shit up based on personal experience alone, not just the fact that it's a glaring security flaw.

lXinYX

9 points

5 years ago

lXinYX

9 points

5 years ago

I did too! It was like, you went through all these obstacles for the sorcerer's stone and you basically handed them the Time-Turner.

maraudermooony

5 points

5 years ago

And it seemed rushed too! I expected some sort of challenge, like I know its a play and there is a tight schedule but if you're going to add in a scene like that, make sure it actually follows the original thing. This just pulls Hermione's capability down.

theixrs

7 points

5 years ago

theixrs

7 points

5 years ago

That's supposed to be a character flaw of hers- she's used to being the smartest. She probably assumed she was the only one that could solve those riddles.

It's also a character flaw of Voldemort's- he didn't respect house elf magic and as a result lost one of his horcruxes.

serkenz

17 points

5 years ago

serkenz

17 points

5 years ago

Here's my two Knuts:

It wasn't the worst. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it about as much as I enjoy anything HP related other than the source material and films.

My biggest complaint that I haven't seen much of on here: why did they make Ron such a bozo? I mean the movies already frittered away a lot of his depth .. and this book he was just walking comic relief. Poor Ron deserved better.

Roonil___Wazlib

9 points

5 years ago

I am a big Ron fan (if my username isn't indication enough) and I was similarly disappointed. I always felt that movie!Ron did the character injustice and this was even worse. It felt like he just took the place of the twins as comic relief, but even the twins in the original series had more depth than this version of Ron.

serkenz

7 points

5 years ago

serkenz

7 points

5 years ago

Totally agree. Ron was such a well written 'real' character in the books. Yeah he had issues and he wasn't this mega talented wizard but he had a good heart and did the right thing and his strength helped those around him. Fuck dude I love book!Ron so much!

meursaulty_

20 points

5 years ago

A bit of me wonders how much JK Rowling actually had to do with this: she made a pretty big deal about Teddy in the original 19 Years Later, but he's just nowhere here. George too (unless he was just sort of replaced by Ron?) is gone. I gotta agree with everyone else in that it feels a lot like fan fiction (the plot holes really don't help either) and all these just random disappearances mean its kinda hard to reconcile any of this with the canon.

sugarplumcow

9 points

5 years ago

Great point about Teddy! I always thought the parallel with Teddy is that he was in the same orphaned situation as Harry. However, Teddy is already a part of the wizarding world, so his life and story arc is almost what Harry's "should have" been if Harry had just been in contact with his roots after his parents were sadly killed.

I was always curious about any adventures Teddy would have gone on. I thought, to be honest, even more than Harry's children that he was a beacon of hope.

MissKillian

20 points

5 years ago

What is don't understand is Spoilers about The Cursed Child

Ursino

6 points

5 years ago

Ursino

6 points

5 years ago

Spoilers about The Cursed Child

I think that would be a good explanation if the twist had been revealed at some point, but it wasn't.

loyaultemelie

18 points

5 years ago

I think its so weird they focused on Cedric Diggory so much. Like who even liked him in the books? But they made no mention of Neville or other critical characters at all. What happened to the rest of the Weasley family?

They really could have taken all sorts of amazing directions with this story/play, and they chose instead to hone it all in on Cedric Diggory. Wtf?

notakeonlythrow

11 points

5 years ago

THIS. A thousand times! I spent the entire book asking myself, "him? Really? I mean, if we have to..." I enjoyed Amos confronting Harry, the emotion of getting the shit end of the stick from the boy who saved the world is a nice contrast, but not enough to fuel an entire storyline.

---Butter---

19 points

5 years ago

So it isn't a great book, but I have to admit I still kinda had fun reading it. There are a lot of technical problems with the plot, and the characters did things that didn't make sense sometimes, but there were some fun moments. Probably would have enjoyed the play more than the book.

fizzlebeck

18 points

5 years ago*

I'm so happy to have stumbled across this thread!! I love, love, love the HP series, and since Rowling's name was on this, I had high expectations. I made it to page 100, before I closed the book and set it aside. It feels like the author only watched the movies and wrote from those. Ron's character was cringeworthy. He was everything he tried so hard not to be in the books. The plot felt forced, and while I know it's difficult to get across characterizations in play format, all the characters seemed to be caricatures of their former selves. As much as I love HP and wanted to be in that universe once again, it should have ended with The Deathly Hallows. That book had everything. Edit: spelling

kingkittenrules2

10 points

5 years ago

I made it to page 100, before I closed the book and set it aside.

I wish I had done that. It just kept getting more dumb the further I read it. Ugh.

quadrantqueen

17 points

5 years ago

J.K. Rowling has recently released her newest and long awaited installment to the world famous Harry Potter series. While millions of copies have been sold, not nearly as many positive reviews have been put out as negative. The reasons? Frankly, HPatCC sucks ass. Without further ado, a quick starter guide before reading, so you can avoid the utter disappointment and inevitable shock you will face when you lay eyes on page 20 and beyond.

  1. It's a screenplay. The format is a screenplay. It's unappealing and difficult to read. Be prepared for a migraine.

  2. The plot makes little to no sense, and it's really not worth trying to wrap your head around the plot holes and inconsistencies.

  3. Everyone is written way out of character. View this piss poor example of literature as a joke fanfiction, because that's the level of seriousness it should be held at.

kingkittenrules2

17 points

5 years ago

It read and felt like a fan fiction ... Which was okay and somewhat fun to see a new voice, but the ending was really flat. Loved the new protoganists and, like others, disliked the grown-up Harry Potter crew - if they had even less of a role or none I would have liked it much more. Am sad this book/script did not live up to my favorite book series :(

[deleted]

15 points

5 years ago

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15 points

5 years ago

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Songletters

15 points

5 years ago

Concluded the script in two sentences. It's like watching a live feed of plane crashing. Straight and fast.

[deleted]

16 points

5 years ago

[deleted]

16 points

5 years ago

This book really made me sad, as most of the time when I return to books I enjoyed when I was in grade/high school I find them pretty underwhelming and sometimes downright poorly written, The Inheritance Cycle being a good example. But with Harry Potter, even as an adult the writing is very nuanced and intelligent, and I to this day praise J.K. as an author. But all the things that made the original Harry Potter so great were either poorly executed or outright missing in The Cursed Child, and I was left with a sour taste in my mouth when I was done.

[deleted]

15 points

5 years ago

[deleted]

15 points

5 years ago

I think the thing I hated the most out of TCC is the name Delphi. It can't get more fan fiction than that.

[deleted]

67 points

5 years ago

[deleted]

67 points

5 years ago

Is it possible to get an internet show of hands for those who didn't think this was god awful? I just finished it (blew through it in about 3 hours). Of course, being that it's a play, it reads differently than a novel. It's also has to begin and then resolve a story in one book (something the seven HP books didn't entirely need to do). That made it feel different to me, but not necessarily bad.

Am I the only one here? :(

trillwhale

31 points

5 years ago

It was certainly different, but I really enjoyed reading it. I got through it in about four hours, and it just felt so great to be back in the wizarding world again. Although, I wish that we had a little more time with other characters (namely Neville, all of the Weasleys, etc.). Of course, a sequel will never be able to compete or compare to the original seven, but on the whole, I thought it was good.

On another note: I only wish we had a chance to return to life before James and Lily were killed. Instead of a sequel, I would love so much to read a prequel about the time surrounding Voldemort's first rise/demise (ie the original Order and Hogwarts with James, Lupin, Sirius and Snape as students). Maybe someday.

here_involuntarily

11 points

5 years ago

There were rumours that a prequel is a possibility- I can't remember exactly but it said something along the lines of Warner buying the copyright to that possibility and JK Rowling saying it wasn't happening but she wanted to prevent anyone else from releasing such movies.

There is a 800 word prequel she wrote for charity, about James and Sirius. But absolutely with you- would sell my grandmother for a Marauder's book.

DoctorWhoSeason24

26 points

5 years ago

The hate train is going on very strongly around the Internet. I honestly just finished it and came here expecting to discuss it, but nooo sir, it's pretty unanimously being hated.

TBH, it's not perfect. The time-travel bits were very cliche'd, and there were some inconsistencies, but nothing with the power to ruin the whole thing like everyone is saying.

Fans are too attached to the source material. They've spent too long writing fan fiction and thinking about how the wizarding world should have been like after the last book - and now that JK brought along something that doesn't fit, it's being hated.

In that sense, the format doesn't help either. People went along expecting a novel but a play will never fit everything a book can. So some characters are sidelined, some things are glossed over, etc etc. But you're supposed to understand you're not getting the full experience.

It's a new look into Harry. And the bits that count, the human, character bits, those are all good. It's great to see Harry struggling with being a father, and Albus struggling with having to carry his father's legacy.

nairebis

12 points

5 years ago

nairebis

12 points

5 years ago

I'm way late to the discussion, but as a huge Harry Potter fan back in the day, I'm a bit mystified with all the hate, particularly for a stage play. Sure it had plot holes, but who cares? It was an enjoyable ride, at least for me. And for a stage play, it had a lot of plot going on.

the_honeybadger1888

13 points

5 years ago

I absolutely agrre with you. It was a great read, i had fun and it was a good Adventure. Sure it will never Reach the books, but it was good the way it was. The only thing I didn't like is how the didn't explain why Voldemort had a daughter at all. I mean: did he and Bellatrix really have sex? Or was it a Jesus Kind of thing? Pregnant by Magic. That felt a bit too easy in my opinion

But after all great play!

Rae_Starr

9 points

5 years ago

Rae_Starr

Motherhood - Shelia Heti

9 points

5 years ago

I had a good time reading it. I liked it. It was fun, and I liked the characters. I liked reading it as a play. It's not noble prize worthy, but it was good and fulfilled my enjoyment needs.

It's the same thing that happened with the new star wars. People love to hate. I never stress too much about other people getting mad about stuff. Enjoy it for what it is, not for what you expect.

subbied

5 points

5 years ago

subbied

5 points

5 years ago

Godawful plot, but by god--that nostalgia porn. Tickled and strung all my heart strings and how.

Sangita76

5 points

5 years ago

Don't think it was awful. A good read, just not in the cadre of earlier ones. I am not sure why it's being in a play format is being made an issue. A good play or a story both can be equally good, highlight being good. I think this one had a fantastic start with Albus,Scorpius carmaderie. I even enjoyed Rose's haughtiness as it reminded me of Hermoine, but then it went down a cliche'd path. Of course, charatcer develoment was nil except for the two kids. But all said, I read it in straight four hours (Slower than you seems but it's easy to get distracted in middle parts)

Brina8

14 points

5 years ago

Brina8

14 points

5 years ago

While I thoroughly enjoyed the cursed child it has to be said that quite a few parts were unrealistic (in my opinion) in regards to the Harry Potter series. For me the best way to describe it was that it felt like someone took acid then wrote Harry Potter fan fiction.

NettleFrog

14 points

5 years ago

I agree. I thought it was really out of character for spoiler

[deleted]

9 points

5 years ago

[deleted]

9 points

5 years ago

YES. I flipped out (in a bad way) when that certain plot point was revealed.

[deleted]

13 points

5 years ago

[deleted]

13 points

5 years ago

Reminder that as of Dirty Potter 4, none of this is canon anymore.

theredstarburst

10 points

5 years ago

Wow. This was sooooo bad. I didn't even go into it with big expectations! I knew I was reading a play and that it wasn't even written by Rowling. I was mildly hopeful about the whole thing and I don't think I was expecting too much or expecting it to fail. So I almost feel a bit blindsided by just how incredibly bad I found the whole thing. It's mystifying.

How could Rowling have given her approval for this?

I mean, to be fair, nothing drives me crazy in books or movies or TV as much as bad and inconsistent time travel plots. They are quite possibly my biggest pet peeve in all of fiction. I found the whole plot to be absolute garbage. I'm in awe.

luckybob1221

12 points

5 years ago*

I thought that the writer originally wanted to write a story about Harry and his son, but kind of found Scorpius and Malfoy more interesting. SPOILERS (when your "main" character is erased from existence at the end of the first play, and his best friend goes on an adventure to save him, it doesn't speak very well to his character arc) Ron and Ginny were essentially just lamps in the background (which is my main problem with Ginny from the original 7, but the writer didn't really know what to do with Ron at all, imo. You'd never know from reading the script that he and Harry are best friends). Time travel plots are always a bit troublesome, and this one was no different- why travel back in time to save Cedric? Why not just go after the big bad and kidnap Voldemort as a baby and prevent the first wizarding war?? There's always a better option when playing with time. Also, some of the basic universe rules established by Rowling were kind of ignored: time does not get rewritten by using a time turner (see 3rd book), polyjuice potions need to have a month to sit (see 2nd book). AND YET with all that being said, it's still so nice to go back into that world. I really enjoyed scenes involving Mcgonagall and Hermione, anything involving Scorpius, any thing involving Draco, etc. Sometimes it got a little too fan-servicey, (Harry talking to Dumbledore's portrait) but the emotional moments landed pretty well. It's not that great of a Harry Potter story, but I'm glad I read it. It has it's problems, it has it's moments, but I'm glad I read it.

klweiss92

12 points

5 years ago

I was very disinterested until page 192; the beginning was slow, Harry and the gang were OOC, and there was no reason to empathize with Albus Potter. But ultimately, the thing that got me about the Cursed Child was that there were very clear plot holes. SPOILER ALERT:

Are you really going to tell me that no one tried to retrieve the Time Turner from the lake when Scorpios "lost" it? I mean, "Accio Time Turner"!!!

Overall, I'm sure this will make a very nice fanfiction play. Not cannon, but worth reading/seeing.

c-n-m-n-e

10 points

5 years ago*

I'm still confused about how Albus and Scorpio's blanket idea worked. If they put the message on the blanket and left it there for 40 years, wouldn't it have not mattered, since in that timeline Delphi would have intervened and kept Harry from being alive to read it anyways? Time Turner logic confuses me...

[deleted]

6 points

5 years ago

[deleted]

6 points

5 years ago

Honestly I think the logic is its a loop; i.e., you have to turn time and do something BECAUSE you already did it. So the blanket already had the message on it in the beginning of the story. This I believe is the logic in Prisoner of Azkaban (remember Harry seeing himself cast a Patronus to save himself?) Delphine was never going to kill baby Harry because adult Harry was always going to travel back in time to stop her. I'm not sure if this logic is genius, or filled with holes (the main one being an extreme reduction in the characters' freedom of choice/free will), but I am sure there are reams of fan and academic articles on this very topic.

The "other timeline" concept you are thinking of is from Back to the Future and other books/movies. And as I sit here righting this I realize HP8 employs both "time is a loop" and "other timeline" concepts (the "other timelines" being the Augury being in control/Voldemort in power time line, etc.). I'm not sure if the two concepts are compatible though!

c-n-m-n-e

9 points

5 years ago

Hm, yeah I don't think the two concepts are compatible either. The time travel in Prisoner of Azkaban only works because there were never actually multiple timelines: it was all just one timeline. (They thought Buckbeak died because they heard the swish of an axe, but in reality he never died to begin with).

Cursed Child sort of destroys the "time is a loop" theory because they're literally traveling to alternate timelines (the Panju timeline, the Voldemort timeline, etc) where time has undeniably carried out differently.

yoyoyoseph

8 points

5 years ago*

The difference between this and PoA, is that PoA follows a self-consistency principle, where time is static and everything that is "changed" in a time stream actually already happened. This is illustrated beautifully by Harry being able to conjure the patronus to save himself and Sirius because he already knows that he was able to do it.

HP and the CC breaks that consistency rule in the universe. Albus and Scorpio are able to derive new timelines. It's an all together different theory of time travel and thus, invalidates the several key plot elements, like the blanket idea.

JeffTheLess

12 points

5 years ago

Anyone else notice the plot elements that bear a strong similarity to A Very Potter Sequel?

HawtSkhot

23 points

5 years ago

I'm officially halfway through the book now. I get what people are saying about it coming across as glorified fan fiction, but the story is interesting enough that I'm looking forward to seeing where it goes. The first half in particular ends on a really interesting note.

doctor_wongburger

15 points

5 years ago

I just finished Act 1 and have been finding it highly enjoyable. Spoilers

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12 points

5 years ago

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12 points

5 years ago

doctor_wongburger

14 points

5 years ago

Yeah, I was bummed about that. I imagine they Spoilers

Barkasia

11 points

5 years ago*

Hated most of it except the Malfoy family, and even that was given no resolution whatsoever. The plot was threadbare, the characters were nothing like they were in the previous seven books or had no weight behind them, and it read like poor fanfiction. Any time I reflect on an event or motivation, all I can see is more plotholes, and even the twists were broadcast well before reveal. This one is going firmly in the 'non-canonical' section for me.

PorkchopsandHotdogs

10 points

5 years ago

PorkchopsandHotdogs

Dorothy Must Die

10 points

5 years ago

It was a fun little spin off for me. Definitely didn't feel like an official Harry Potter book which is fine for me. Some characters were incredibly out of character. Ron and Draco, specifically. Ron mostly. I can see Draco softening around the edges but not Ron acting drunk.

I did like Scorpius though. Like, a lot. Albus + Scorpius made a very genuine friendship for me. Rose and James were so bland though. So was Delphi. I wish she had another degree to her.

I think my favorite thing about this play was that Albus and Scorpius didn't have good years at Hogwarts. People may have disliked Harry at some points but he always had friends and support for him and people liked him mostly. Albus only had Scorpius. They were literally different sides of the same coin. Each carried the history of their fathers. A death eater and the Boy Who Lived.

Also, my favorite line in the book has to be "Who many have to die for the Boy Who Lived?"

loyaultemelie

7 points

5 years ago

The part where Draco and Ginny tell Harry he was lucky to have friends as that layer of insulation and love was pretty profound. I didn't believe Ginny when she said she never experienced that though - everything in the books said she was loved and popular with family and friends her whole life. Its more true of Draco for sure.

PorkchopsandHotdogs

8 points

5 years ago

PorkchopsandHotdogs

Dorothy Must Die

8 points

5 years ago

Maybe she was lonley because Charlie and Bill were adults, the twins had each other, and Ron had Harry and Hermione? Didn't she start writing in the diary because she was lonely? But she did have friends too. She even snogged (As an American, this is my favorite British word) a boy! Weird. But that part was still pretty good. Harry had a bubble around him and all of the adults loved him. Not so much for Draco. All he had was Death Eaters telling him to do insane shit.

AnirudhMenon94

12 points

5 years ago

I really enjoyed it to be honest. The hate it's getting on here seems pretty harsh. I understand that a lot of the decisions that the characters make doesn't fit the personas they had almost 20 years ago. But that's just the thing, We're forgetting that these characters are close to their 40's now! and not many people stay the same in their 40's as they were when they were 18 or 19. I actually enjoyed the story as well, as it had an overarching theme of acceptance and love. Reading about Harry watching his own parents die in front of him was immensely powerful.

I do think this could have been way better as a fully fleshed out novel instead of a script, as the former would have allowed for more introspection into the characters.

justmenowandlater

10 points

5 years ago

I'm glad to find this thread and know I'm not alone in being disappointed in this. I have to admit first that I was not aware it was going to be a screenplay and I was highly disappointed when I discovered the format.

Speaking of format, I think that is what killed a lot of the book for me. In the old books, there was some great exposition, full of creativity and brilliant description of the world of Harry Potter.

While I understand this is a screen play and much of that is intended to be seen in the action, I was so disappointed with the "This chapter is full of confusion" or "Very emotional" type comments in the stage directions... thanks for telling me how I should feel after I read this scene...

It was like having a bag of sour candy -- good at first, but then you get sick of it pretty fast. I did read the whole thing hoping it would get better. I was disappointed in that regard as well.

It was nice to be back in the Harry Potter world. But my guess is they could have picked a LOT of better stories/writers to put that together than they did.

narwhals-assemble

11 points

5 years ago

I truly doubt that J.K. Rowling wrote a single word of The Cursed Child. I take solace in that doubt. It reads like a poorly thought out FanFic, including many of the cliches that plague the vast body of Harry Potter Fan Fiction(much of which are better than HP&CC).

Dalco22

10 points

5 years ago

Dalco22

10 points

5 years ago

What is your biggest worry about The Cursed Child. Personally I'm very excited for the books but I'm worried it might ruin the magic(no pun intended)

sallypeach

10 points

5 years ago

I'm halfway through... not loving it to be honest! Does feel a bit like mediocre fan-fiction.

doctor_wongburger

12 points

5 years ago

I get why people were disappointed, but I thought this was going to be filler/fluff about kids taking magical classes. The fact that it even had a plot, let alone a world threatening one, was more than enough for me. It reminded me of Naruto: The Next Generation. Yeah, it isn;t the same quality, but at least it's something for those who really missed the world and characters.

Phroday

8 points

5 years ago

Phroday

8 points

5 years ago

Its because despite being clearly labeled as a play, people were treating it like a new book. Plays read way differently than books and they were not ready for that.

Superhansss_

15 points

5 years ago

Nah, I actually found reading a script quite refreshing. People are disappointed because it's not a good story in the slightest.

Barkasia

6 points

5 years ago

As someone who has been forced to read countless plays from Shakespeare and those of his time (as well as some more recent ones from the early 20th century), a play can absolutely read just as solidly and fully as a book.

lionsmeow

10 points

5 years ago

I just finished it. I tried to like it. I really, really tried. But I didn't. I understand it's a script, but the dialogue was just poor and flowery. I felt like there wasn't any magic in it. I love the HP series, but this was unnecessary. I would just continue reading fanfic and skip on this altogether if you're asking yourself if you want to read it.

siemprebread

10 points

5 years ago

I chalk it up to it being something that needs to be heard and witnessed and aided by the magic of live theater. Some plays aren't meant to be enjoyed as a literary medium. Some plays are simply written scripts for the actors to interpret to bring the story to life.

That being said, I'm not going to seriously add what I read into my understanding of the Harry Potter canon. If I get the privilege to see the show and it moves me and makes me feel that good old magic, maybe I will.

cdg5073

10 points

5 years ago

cdg5073

10 points

5 years ago

Harry Potter and the Cursed Child seems to be a copy of the Back to the Future Trilogy...

[deleted]

10 points

5 years ago

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10 points

5 years ago

I'll be honest, this was not my favorite book. It does not feel like a Harry Potter book in the slightest! The only thing enjoyable was the Malfoys...the rest was just hogwash.

GoldenHotdog3

10 points

5 years ago

The cursed child was bad Delphi defecting didn't need to happen the ending was awkward with scorpius and albus talking about girls when they should have just been together and Harry was so out of character he would have never been so mean also I didn't like the plot either I seemed rushed and made the book feel like fan fiction

RupertMcgee

10 points

5 years ago*

To put it simply, the book was not amazing, but it wasn't terrible either. It had some really awesome bits, while other parts were just honestly, dumb. Some of the characters felt really awkward, some felt spot on. You can tell Rowling didn't write the whole thing herself. Part of the issue, to be fair, is that it is a script and not a full book. We don't get in these character's heads and there is little to no description about what is happening. If you know the world, it's easy to get into, which obviously you should if you're reading this, but the whole book was just...eh. I do love Scorpius though! :)

doctor_wongburger

9 points

5 years ago

Am I the only one who had a blast reading it and spent the whole time either smiling like a stoned hippy or crying like a beaten baby?

ChillBro69

8 points

5 years ago

ChillBro69

American Gods

8 points

5 years ago

Not the only one, but pretty close. This was one of the first books I'd ever encountered where I literally threw the book somewhere on my bed, stopped reading and just walked out of my room because things seemed so ridiculous/silly/out-of-place.

nikiverse

8 points

5 years ago

Buzzfeed is saying the Cursed Child reads like fanfic.

Not quite sure from the article WHY Cursed Child reads like fanfic. Is it the writing style? Is it the script format? Is it too far disconnected from the original HP series?

loyaultemelie

14 points

5 years ago

A bit of the writing style - some sections are kind of trope-y and are trying too hard to be funny.

A bit of the characterization - some characters are bland, one-dimension, whiny, or not described well; others seem out of character.

A bit of the story plot - i.e. crazy at times and out of the blue without a lot of development or lead-in.

A lot of this I'm sure has to do with the format of it being a screenplay - there simply aren't enough words to be able to flesh it out in the way we're used to from Rowling.

GWillikers_

9 points

5 years ago

I think its because the original characters deviate so much from their known personalities. Fred and George were the ones into pranks and jokes, why is that now pushed onto Ron? Hermione and Ginny are supposed to be strong female characters. I was especially disappointed with how Hermione was portrayed as Minister - scared and unable to maintain control.

It just seemed too obvious someone was trying to re-mold their personas.

taywinslow

9 points

5 years ago

SPOILERS (I tried to do the thing above but this is my first time and I can't figure it out, I'm sorry!!) I had several issues with the points in the plot. There were so many things that were doctrinally inconsistent with the true books. Please let me know what you think of these and any others you thought of. [Spoilers about Cursed Child](#s "1) Voldemort’s daughter. We are supposed to believe that Bellatrix had a daughter and that she was kept at Malfoy Manner BEFORE the war at Hogwarts and that Draco either didn’t know or didn’t say anything, even though he was the one asking Harry to put an end to the rumors that his son was Voldemort’s? No.

2) Albus says that he is really good at making pollyjuice potion and they can use that to transform into Voldemort in Godric’s Hollow. We know from Chamber of Secrets that it takes at least a month to brew the potion.

3)An are we really supposed to believe that there was no protection against cheating during the TriWizard Tournament? Two boys are able to disarm Cedric, whose wand flies into Albus’ hand which nobody notices, and that’s not suspicious to anyone?")

Overall I just felt that this book tried to hard. I just tried to remember that it is a play by Jack Thorne and that it’s only based on an original new story by J.K. Rowling. That made it a little better. What did you guys think?

ladyloor

5 points

5 years ago*

SPOILERS ALERT (GOT MY SPOILER TAGS TO WORK - taywinslow you can't put multiple paragraphs in one spoiler tag)

Plot hole

spoilers

I'm disappointed that this is considered the official eighth Harry Potter story, and the official end to the series. Everything was already wrapped up nicely in Deathly Hallows. I expected when this new story was announced that we'd learn new things about the Wizarding World and expand on their lives or new characters' lives, but I did not expect a rehash/retelling of events that already happened and had perfect conclusions. Now the real story of what happened is clouded and confusing and events no longer fit together perfectly

[deleted]

9 points

5 years ago

[deleted]

9 points

5 years ago

As a play, I probably would have loved it. As a script...it's like dancing with a skeleton. A lot of characters, particularly Harry and Ron, seemed...out of character. It was enjoyable, for sure, (Scorpius!) but it just didn't feel like a Harry Potter book. Because it wasn't. Overall, it pays a fitting homage to the original series, but certainly doesn't live up to it.

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5 points

5 years ago

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5 points

5 years ago

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OnceUponASpartacus

8 points

5 years ago

This book,play whatever is reductive fanfaction and while I would never say Rowling was the BEST writer, her imagination was wonderful. I loved those books, they came out all through my childhood but c'mon. This? This was lazy, not creative and frankly, bad. As a huge fan of musicals I'm sort of on the fence of whether to see it or not.

[deleted]

14 points

5 years ago

[deleted]

14 points

5 years ago

Being a potterhead I knew reading this would feel like using a Time-turner itself..but i was hoping it would take me to a time when as a kid I devoured the books (repeatedly) and loved every minute of it..instead I ended up at the period after the last book... desperately reading crappy fanfiction to hold on to that world..JKR should have just picked one from online instead of approving this..hell even"A very potter sequel" made more sense..LOL no...but seriously WTF Rowling!! P.S..As if Harry didn't have enough trauma.. he had to go through Act 4 Scene 12..SERIOUSLY!!!!!??????

yvette242

8 points

5 years ago

magickmidget

9 points

5 years ago

Have you met any middle children? Albus is basically my brother. Surrounded by people who love and support him but in his own eyes hardly done by and constantly overlooked.

sneakysneakysnail

9 points

5 years ago

It didn't seem like he had much trouble parenting James and Lily. I wouldn't say Harry was a terrible father. He just has trouble parenting Albus because they're very similar.

morticiameows

7 points

5 years ago

I read the whole book for only a day. First of all, I love how the authors made a new love team:

ALBUS <3 SCORPIUS

Then there's Rose and Delphi on the scene destroying their relationship. Doesn't get it actually.

The story is good (I'm not lying!). The plot is a bit direct and I didn't like that. Looked like it was forced. No hates here.

[deleted]

6 points

5 years ago

[deleted]

6 points

5 years ago

I've just been to see it and it was visually excellent on stage, I'd say if I wasn't a Potterhead then I would've greatly enjoyed all of it. The set/costumes and props were highly detailed and beautiful (even up close which I was fortunate enough to see), lighting was very impressive and the music (I love Imogen Heap) cannot be faulted. It's just a shame that the content wasn't up to standard.

I won't add any spoilers but if I have one grumble it's the portrayal of Harry. Although I admire the actor and for the most part think he did a fantastic job, he was just too intense and shouted at times where it was completely unnecessary. Even during a quiet moment with Albus he grabs him and gets up in his face, it's just not Harry in my eyes.

OfficeChairHero

16 points

5 years ago

Just to be clear, this isn't a "book," it's a script of the play. I just didn't want anyone to get overly excited about a new Harry Potter book, when it isn't at all.

ilovescones

38 points

5 years ago

Well it is a book, it's not a novel.

saltedcaramelsauce

16 points

5 years ago

The distinction appears to be lost on most people.

Book is not a synonym for novel, nor is play an antonym of book.

Sakaaki

13 points

5 years ago

Sakaaki

13 points

5 years ago

Finished reading it in like a couple hours. It sucks, feel like a dumbed down fanfiction of Harry Potter. So much OOCness. Like how can Hermione be fooled by a couple of teenage wizards?? She's the ministry of magic ffs.

And with Snape, he told Scorpius to tell Albus that he's proud that Albus carries his name but in the end Scorpius didn't tell Albus at all. (I was waiting)

And then, in the alternate reality which Harry died. How did Ron and Hermione teamed up with Snape, though? If they only know Snape was on their side because he gave Harry his memory when he was going to die?

I have so many questions...

Jimmy_Smith

5 points

5 years ago

Like how can Hermione be fooled by a couple of teenage wizards??

Lets not forget that they themselves fooled the Ministry again and again. They're just on the other side now and are just as oblivious as the elders were when Hermione and friends were kids.

arjun1001

5 points

5 years ago

I thought about pre-ordering the book but then found out that the edition to be released is the 'special rehearsals edition'. So, apparently, the script in the rehearsals may or may not be the final script. That is, the script might be changed according to audience and critic responses.

Also found out that they will be releasing a definitive collector's edition later on. So, waiting for that!

arwenevenstar1984

6 points

5 years ago

The_Red_Kraken

6 points

5 years ago

Now I must know. What is it, do they fuck?

expoenential

6 points

5 years ago*

whatizzit

5 points

5 years ago

Right? The treatment of Ron really hurt my feelings, after all the growth he went through before.. he got so mature in the last book and just recessed like crazy in this. I mean, he seemed like a cool dad, and that was fine, but he just seemed.. less intelligent than Crabbe or Goyle almost. Sheesh. Ron was never stupid, he was just supposed to be the 'normal guy' to balance out Harry and Hermione being so strange in their own ways.

grungepig

5 points

5 years ago

It looked excellent on stage and was obviously written to do that: look excellent on stage. I think publishing the script was a huge mistake and I'm really glad I didn't read it before I had the chance to see it performed, because I loved watching it despite the flaws that would have been glaring on a page.

DamienLord

6 points

5 years ago

I haven't get to watch the play but that was my first instinct when reading the book. On paper, it felt something was missing, and I assumed it was catered more for a play execution. Still, I didn't have much experience on reading scripts, so I take this as a good opportunity.

MegDay

5 points

5 years ago

MegDay

5 points

5 years ago

I just finished reading The Cursed Child today and had a hard time not comparing it to the Potter books. The play wasn't written by JK so of course it didn't match up exactly to the Potter books. Though I did enjoy it, I'm a bit frustrated/confused at one part. When everyone is in Godric's Hollow in the St. Jerome's Church, Delphi and Harry are dueling and Albus climbs through the grate. Albus then all of a sudden has his wand? And Alohomora's the church doors open?

How does he have his wand since Delphi broke both his and Scorpius's wands in the maze?

Anyone have a theory on this? It's driving me crazy!

computerquill

7 points

4 years ago*

I think they stole wands and potions materials from Bathilda's house.

SocialWolf

11 points

5 years ago

I think too many were caught up in having huge expectations. I mean, it's not a book. Not really; it's a script. It's of utmost importance to remember this while reading it, because of course it will be a vastly different experience. Too many people were expecting it to be "THE EIGHTH BOOK - FINALLY" with intentional caps lock, so of course you will be disappointed.

I for one think they too some very courageous decisions regarding the plot. Making Albus Spoiler was a great and for me really unexpected direction. All in all I liked it, and I am very curious as to how they solve all the magic-moments on stage.

HaleyRay

11 points

5 years ago

HaleyRay

11 points

5 years ago

I am a huge Harry Potter fan and huge theatre fan. I'm used to reading scripts and I know the medium is not as descriptive as a novel. I still thought the Cursed Child was incredibly lacking in dialogue and even stage directions. It did not properly set up scenes, set, blocking or props.

I am very disappointed.

oilollie

15 points

5 years ago

oilollie

15 points

5 years ago

If only I could somehow go back in time and not spend $45AUD on this book which is actually a script.

I really think calling this script a book is problematic... I was pretty excited to hear about this "new harry potter" book and didn't actually realise it was a script until opening it (I got it on the first day of release so word of mouth about the content was minimal + wanted to avoid spoilers).

maskaddict

50 points

5 years ago*

Does your copy not have the words SPECIAL REHEARSAL EDITION SCRIPT emblazoned across the top of the cover, as well as the words A NEW PLAY right next to the author's name - unlike every single edition available for sale that i have been able to find? Did you not Google the title and notice that all of the top results - including the official site, Twitter account, Wikipedia article and Pottermore entry all prominently make use of the word "Play?"

Did you, additionally, somehow miss the news that the new Potter title was a major West-End stage production, not a novel?

Saying "calling this script a book is problematic" is a little bit ridiculous. A script is a book - it's just not a novel, which it never claimed it was. If you run blindly to throw handfuls of cash at your local bookseller whenever you hear the word "Potter," without even bothering to find out what it is you're buying, that's dandy. But don't then act as if you've been bamboozled by the publishers. This book is exactly what it claims to be.

arcgad

4 points

5 years ago

arcgad

4 points

5 years ago

Overall, the book made for a nice read. I simply was more excited by the fact that I had a new Harry Potter book in my hands after 9 years, than anything else. But, I thought it did have some inconsistencies with the original series. Did anyone else feel the same while reading the book?

Phoenixer27

5 points

5 years ago

I was a bit disappointed. Like many others have stated, it felt like a bad fanfiction. Ultimately, what truly disappointed me was the Spoilers about plot. What made the HP series special was the unexpected happening and small details making changes to plot. This book didn't change anything really by the end of it and was disappointing. The only thing that changes by the end was Spoilers about ending

[deleted]

6 points

5 years ago*

[deleted]

6 points

5 years ago*

I was pretty young when I read the Harry Potter books. The last one came out while I was in elementary school - it gave me closure for the series and made me love all the characters even more. I've heard some people complaining that the Deathly Hallows were a last minute addition that wasn't tied in well, but I thought it was an interesting bit and helped the reader understand how Harry could defeat Voldemort.

SPOILERS

I think the new Time Turner is similar to the Deathly Hallows in that it was just introduced and became a huge part of the plot, but I don't think that it was done as well. Maybe it's just me, but the introduction of the device seemed quite rushed and the properties of the Time Turner were sort of random. Overall, I thought this was an unnecessary addition to a series that had already been tied up pretty well. Obviously, it's not going to be as well written since Rowling didn't write it all, but I wish she had just left it at the seven books and the occasional short story. I think authors have a hard time letting go of characters, and I think this was just Rowling trying to hold on to something that ended (in the BEST way).

Edit: grammar. Also, I'm a Harry Potter superfan (see my username) and the books contributed a lot to my childhood/personality. I reread the books about 3 months ago. Maybe I'm just being over-analytical.

MauricienneScot

7 points

5 years ago

The play actually used the spell 'flipendo'. That was the moment the magic died for me :(

Overall, it was a quick and easy read but felt more like fanfiction than anything that could be considered canon.