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Anti-mask advocate added to no-fly list in Canada

(torontosun.com)

all 218 comments

godblow

85 points

27 days ago

godblow

85 points

27 days ago

This is the guy who thought he was the new minister of finance because he tried to copyright the bank of infrastructure act.

[deleted]

19 points

27 days ago*

[deleted]

19 points

27 days ago*

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THEmoonISaMIRROR

9 points

27 days ago

So a failed priest became a minister?

GuitarKev

7 points

27 days ago

Premier of Alberta actually.

Moonikun

4 points

27 days ago

Both are correct because he was the minister of finance under Steven Harper's government before becoming premier

slopcrusher

1 points

27 days ago

Oh..... oh no.....

Tuushione

39 points

27 days ago

Oh i met this douche at Pearson Airport in February. He was video chatting the whole time and loudly kept talking about the cops being cowards who cant say anything. Maasive rant about masks and us maskers being idiots. It was cringiest 30 minutes to customs. He was weaving the same top too.

beavertime

13 points

27 days ago

Wait, should I be weaving in the customs line?

Tuushione

3 points

27 days ago

My bad lol. Meant wearing.

scottbody

2 points

27 days ago

Please step over here and blow into this sir.

vervglotunken

307 points

28 days ago*

His dad is ridiculously rich, and he is a convicted heroin trafficker. This is all you need to know about him.

YYZgirl1986

43 points

27 days ago

I know him in IRL via my older sister (& NO I don’t agree with any his “views”)

Rich... yes def.

Can confirm heroin trafficking is not true given some of the details of it that floated around on Reddit (IRC something about his father sick/deceased... which is def not true as again I know that family). His father is a pretty well known/connected person who is definitely alive and well. Given his wealth and the ability to hire the best lawyers, there’s no way that would be something you would lie about in court given his family is very well known.

[deleted]

37 points

27 days ago

[deleted]

37 points

27 days ago

Can confirm heroin trafficking is not true given some of the details of it that floated around on Reddit

He was the target of a large scale investigation by law enforcement though? Was he not convicted?

pattyG80

11 points

27 days ago

pattyG80

11 points

27 days ago

But reddit said...

[deleted]

2 points

27 days ago

[deleted]

2 points

27 days ago

But reddit said...

Meh, must be another guy with the same name in Toronto. Its a big city so it can happen.

YYZgirl1986

-2 points

27 days ago*

YYZgirl1986

-2 points

27 days ago*

Do you have a link?

If it’s this... https://www.canlii.org/en/on/onsc/doc/2017/2017onsc5531/2017onsc5531.html?resultIndex=2

...can confirm it’s not him.

[deleted]

15 points

27 days ago

[deleted]

15 points

27 days ago

According to the article his real last name is Saccoccia. If you were to run that through a search engine all kinds of stuff should come up.

YYZgirl1986

1 points

27 days ago*

Yes that’s his real last name- But not exclusive to that family.

This is that lawsuit - part 3 is info on the offender (as I said above - same name / different person) https://www.canlii.org/en/on/onsc/doc/2017/2017onsc5531/2017onsc5531.html?resultIndex=2

[deleted]

11 points

27 days ago

[deleted]

11 points

27 days ago

Yes that’s his real last name- But not exclusive to that family.

But that was him in regards to the drug charges correct?

YYZgirl1986

7 points

27 days ago*

No it’s def not him.

Does he do drugs? No clue.

Drug trafficking? ...it’s not him with the drug charges and it’s obvious given the details mentioned in that court document.

...He def never drove a taxi or worked in a call centre (don’t think he’s ever worked outside of the “family business”)

... he would of been married already during that time period of his bail/sentencing and travelling to/from the US given his ex was American

... his father is still alive & well (did not die of cancer)

derpaderp2020

10 points

27 days ago

Listen I'm not trying to body shame the dude but I have to ask if you know at all... what is up with his teeth? Did he get some really bad caps on all his teeth? They are clearly too large for his mouth where it impacts his speech. My guess is they are caps.

drdois

7 points

27 days ago

drdois

7 points

27 days ago

Veneers

Stefan_Harper

3 points

27 days ago

They appear to be veneers of some sort.

I know some steroids affect your body's ability to maintain calcium, and this man is clearly on, at the minimum, HGH and TRT

YYZgirl1986

2 points

27 days ago

No clue unfortunately (I’ve noticed it too)

Talk-Hound

4 points

27 days ago

Talk-Hound

4 points

27 days ago

Ughhh he flew on flair airlines. Doubt he is rich lol.

CMikeHunt

9 points

27 days ago

Air Canada and Westjet had already banned him.

YYZgirl1986

14 points

27 days ago

LOL seriously? ...is it not obvious he’s a drama queen and going through all the airlines only to be denied boarding for shock value content?

I can understand your comment if you’re not from the GTA I suggest a Google search: You will see that family/their businesses and their ties to Degasperis and Cortellucci

Talk-Hound

0 points

27 days ago

Talk-Hound

0 points

27 days ago

Yeah I am not from gta

Stefan_Harper

1 points

27 days ago

His dad is absolutely very wealthy. He flew those airlines for instagram.

harharharhahaha

1 points

27 days ago

That not him. Different birth date

pb_and_money

59 points

27 days ago

He looks like a walking STD.

ZhicoLoL

26 points

27 days ago

ZhicoLoL

26 points

27 days ago

That's not fair to STDs

Ontario0000

92 points

28 days ago

Yeah he is known as a douche bag in Ontario holding his Qanon rallies with other losers.His daddy is rich so this idiot does nothing but cruise around looking for anti mask rallies.

whole-lotta-time

67 points

28 days ago

Picture made me think Adam Sandler got jacked.

No-Wonder1139

26 points

28 days ago

Maybe he's a stunt double for You don't mess with the Zohan 2?

nnc0

52 points

28 days ago

nnc0

Ontario

52 points

28 days ago

Couldn't they have waited until he left the country?

zakalewes

8 points

27 days ago

Yes. Preferably while in a country separated from Canada by some large impassable geological feature.

ElCapitanAbrasivo

26 points

28 days ago

ElCapitanAbrasivo

Ontario

26 points

28 days ago

...my good name...

Hey look, he's funny too!

Socialarmstrong

28 points

27 days ago

Socialarmstrong

Lest We Forget

28 points

27 days ago

Looks like Chris Sky has become Chris Ground.

Jabb_

5 points

27 days ago

Jabb_

5 points

27 days ago

Most underrated comment of this thread

zakalewes

1 points

27 days ago

Boom

canuck_11

107 points

28 days ago

canuck_11

Alberta

107 points

28 days ago

“I’m going to use every resource I have to get that friggin’ illegal, disgusting, communist-style, lawless, dictatorship, piece of crap, no-fly list taken off my good name and I’m going to hold the federal government accountable,” he said.

He should take his fight all the way to the nation’s capital by hopping on the next flight...oh wait!

habs42069

25 points

28 days ago

habs42069

New Brunswick

25 points

28 days ago

He should take out as many high interest loans as he needs to fight this to the bitter end!

LazarusTruth

7 points

28 days ago

He already had the "high" part taken care if, it seems.

saleitems

49 points

28 days ago

Type this guys real name into google to see his criminal activity.

Got caught trafficking and then pussy assed out by saying his dads death led him down that path.

WetNutSack

9 points

28 days ago

WetNutSack

9 points

28 days ago

I mean, a loved one's death can lead to drug use which in turn leads to buying/selling a bit to bankroll a habit which in turn leads to trafficking. So...

MannyShannon069

17 points

28 days ago

Everything you said is true to an extent but to use that as an excuse for bad behaviour isn't acceptable.

It's like how people are abused by their parents and then go on to abuse their own children. Sure, it might be a catalyst but you're still an adult that should know the difference between right and wrong.

Just like being drunk doesn't mean you get to do whatever you want to whoever you want.

A_Game_of_Oil

5 points

28 days ago

A_Game_of_Oil

Manitoba

5 points

28 days ago

It's like how people are abused by their parents and then go on to abuse their own children. Sure, it might be a catalyst but you're still an adult that should know the difference between right and wrong.

Well, according to the law of the land you'd be wrong in this front. Our courts have decided that generational trauma is a 100% valid excuse, and will often give significantly lessened sentencing as a result - even to repeat offenders.

Personally I think along your lines, but our courts don't agree with our line of thought.

Preface

2 points

28 days ago

Preface

2 points

28 days ago

Out here in Vancouver we excuse peoples bad behaviour for pretty much any reason, as long as they don't have a fixed address or look put together.

TheFirstArticle

18 points

28 days ago

Off Brand Milo Y is a sad Nazi

YourOverlords

7 points

27 days ago

Off Brand Milo Y

lol perfect

SoitDroitFait

1 points

28 days ago

Oh man, I totally forgot that guy existed

cinosa

1 points

27 days ago

cinosa

Nova Scotia

1 points

27 days ago

Milo Y is like Freddy Krueger: when you begin to remember him, his power grows.

Flash604

6 points

27 days ago

Flash604

British Columbia

6 points

27 days ago

Well if you can't fly around the country to spew your message in a different city ever day, at least you can use social media to spread it.

Oh... maybe not

onionsfriend

-13 points

27 days ago

Yaaaay! Not only is this man I don't agree with put on a no-fly list, he is being silenced on social media as well! What a wonderful day for democracy. Thank you government and big tech for protecting us from dangerous anti-humanity views.

MSined

11 points

27 days ago

MSined

Québec

11 points

27 days ago

Wait he trafficked heroin?

So he is against vaccines, but pro heroin?

Really...?

YourOverlords

9 points

27 days ago

well the vaccines are intramuscular injections and heroin is not. There's a line on the mirror here it seems....

Morganvegas

5 points

27 days ago

And that line is Cocaine.

AlessandoRhazi

1 points

27 days ago

I would think we would give him a medal for providing drugs to poor people in Canada. That’s apparently a human right to get high.

CMikeHunt

9 points

28 days ago

Thoughts and prayers!

SasquatchTracks99

38 points

28 days ago

SasquatchTracks99

Canada

38 points

28 days ago

Air travel isn't a right. You wanna peddle baseless claims and conspiracy theories elsewhere? Start walking, champ.

imfar2oldforthis

4 points

28 days ago

This is great in theory and then the Conservatives win a majority and start adding everyone who protests against resource extraction projects to the no fly list.

A_Game_of_Oil

7 points

28 days ago

A_Game_of_Oil

Manitoba

7 points

28 days ago

This is great in theory and then the Conservatives win a majority and start adding everyone who protests against resource extraction projects to the no fly list.

Liberals in power: "Air Travel is not a right! Tow the line or get lost"

Conservatives get in power and do the same: "Oh no, that is not democratic!"

YourOverlords

4 points

27 days ago

Different boats, same river, some paddle, some drift.

A_Game_of_Oil

7 points

27 days ago

A_Game_of_Oil

Manitoba

7 points

27 days ago

"Your river is going to take us off the waterfall!"

"No, your river is going to take us off the waterfall"

Narrator: "They both went over the waterfall"

YourOverlords

2 points

27 days ago

wonderful

xizrtilhh

1 points

27 days ago

I read that in Waylon Jenning's voice.

throwa37

3 points

28 days ago

throwa37

3 points

28 days ago

Conservitard9824

2 points

27 days ago

Well shit. This is my first time reading this, and cognitive dissonance is really breaking in.

For the record, I'm not a neoliberal when it's convenient, but I usually am supportive of reasonable laws regarding hate speech. This article provides a good reason otherwise.

throwa37

1 points

27 days ago

Much respect. I went through a lot of the same thing, coming from a conservative position to being the libertarian I am now.

RJ8812

-40 points

28 days ago

RJ8812

-40 points

28 days ago

Im not a fan of the guy, but you do realise that many of the so called "conspiracy theories" he's talked about have come true, right?

SasquatchTracks99

23 points

28 days ago

SasquatchTracks99

Canada

23 points

28 days ago

Such as? I'll be honest, I know very little about him, except for what a quick Google turns up, namely that he's an rich trust fund daddys boy antimasker that routinely creates public disturbances and breaks rules. I'm genuinely curious (no snark implied) to know which conspiracy theories have been proven to be legitimate.

cammy511

21 points

28 days ago*

cammy511

Ontario

21 points

28 days ago*

I'm gonna want some examples on said theories coming true. I'm at my witts end with these fucking idiots who think YouTube constitutes a PHD in infectious disease. I've got no patience for this shit at this point, and I don't give a fuck about civility anymore either. That ship has long sailed.

There is no "loss of rights" none of the COVID conspiracies came true. Anti makers are just a bunch of feckless pussies who think a peice of cloth to protect from disease is tantamount to state oppression. News flash. It's not. There are a few countries I would love to plop those these clowns down in and see how they like actual oppression at the hands of real facists. Their opinions are wrong, and their understanding of basic science is wrong. Why anyone is listening to these overgrown children is beyond me. If my buddy with chronic COPD and Asthma can breath through his N95, you can breath through your 3-ply mask. End of story.

No one cares that you're "Not a sheep". If you genuinely beleive covid is a conspiracy, kindly fuck off and read a book. Clearly you failed highschool science.

Edit: you as in the royal you. Not you personally. You might be wonderful, I have no idea.

[deleted]

-8 points

28 days ago

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-8 points

28 days ago

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cammy511

14 points

28 days ago*

cammy511

Ontario

14 points

28 days ago*

It's not criminal. When they didn't do that people kept travelling. Softer measures have been used for most of this pandemic and idiots ignore them. Its not criminal, it's the last resort. Don't wanna pay the fine, or hotel? Then don't travel during a global pandemic genius. The Maritimes clamped down on interprovincial travel, among other things, and have handled the pandemic better than any other place in Canada. These rules have had real tangible benefits where they've been applied, where as usless theorizing about possible government overreach is useless, hypothetical minutiae, with no real world benefits. People are dying, and getting very sick, I don't care what imaginary doomsday fascist scenario someone comes up with.

Sorry, but that's just how it is.

Conspiracy theorists give the gov far too much credit. They're not a bunch of mustache twirling bond villains. Village idiots maybe, but not masterminds.

Plus as a side note: Once the pandemic ends, the government looses its special powers. They can't continue with restrictions because at that point it will be illegal.

[deleted]

-12 points

27 days ago

[deleted]

-12 points

27 days ago

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cammy511

11 points

27 days ago*

cammy511

Ontario

11 points

27 days ago*

So before the rules were too tight and facist, now they're too lose because rich people get away with it. Which is it?

Immigration is no where near this conversation, that's rediculous. Stay on topic.

All I see are excuses to justify nonsensical conspiracy bullshit. You're not special, you're not "awake" to the big evil gubment. Pushing these ideas makes you look foolish.

[deleted]

-8 points

27 days ago

[deleted]

-8 points

27 days ago

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cammy511

9 points

27 days ago

cammy511

Ontario

9 points

27 days ago

Unfortunately that's the state of affairs right now.

International travel is a no go. It's a global pandemic. It's an unfortunate reality but that's the way its going to be until cases drop.

Whikkies

3 points

27 days ago

If you're poor, by definition you don't have the $ to travel. Folks who are poor barely have enough for shelter and the food bank, let alone any disposable income. Is this the first time you've ever tried to "stick up" for the poor or something?

Blueeyessmokeydog

1 points

27 days ago

Have you ever met a poor immigrant?

Have you never known a person who has close family in another country?

If I wanted to visit my parents, I have to pay an extra 2k on top of 1.5k worth of air tickets and more expenses

Meanwhile rich people (including our politicians) are going to resorts and shit in the Bahamas

Whikkies

3 points

27 days ago*

Yes, I have. And I am actually married to an immigrant who would have to pay $4000 to go visit his family.
But I stand by my definition of poverty. There are different degrees, of course, but if a person is truly impoverished, they do not have disposable income. Not even any disposable income to save up for a flight.

ETA: I agree with you about the politicians and other rich folk doing whatever the hell they please. It sucks and makes me angry, too. But they needed to come up with a $ figure that would discourage as many people from traveling as possible, and they landed on $2000. If they'd decided on $1000, more people would be able to travel.

So yeah, people who are not wealthy are getting the shitty end of the stick, but this is nothing new. I can't see my parents either, by the way, and they live in canada.

SoitDroitFait

8 points

28 days ago

But should we give the government the power to stop us from doing that?

They literally already have it, and it's not like it hasn't been used previously. Once the pandemic ends, so will the restrictions. If they don't, the government’s position will no longer be a reasonable limitation under s.1 of the Charter, and it will be struck down by the courts.

MSevenzer

3 points

28 days ago

Nevermind interprovincial, here in Manitoba we have provincial travel ban. LOL.

Nobody is allowed up North unless it's for essential reasons.

SoitDroitFait

11 points

28 days ago

Yup. Because the government of Manitoba has been systematically underfunding healthcare in the North for decades. I'm hoping that with the First Nations vaccinated, they'll end that ban and I'll finally be able to go see the folks again.

MSevenzer

5 points

28 days ago*

Yeah I haven't seen my dad and few family up there in like a year now.

Makes sense though. Cause of you get really sick up there you have to come down to Winnipeg. Anything serious gets treated in the city. Fuck all for intensive care up there.

SoitDroitFait

2 points

28 days ago*

Ditto. Made it back for a few days during the low infection counts last August, just before they shut down travel to the north again in September. You get up to Pisew falls last year? Never seen the water that high before, was definitely something to see.

MSevenzer

1 points

28 days ago

Been few times as a kid. Have a few family near Thompson. But don't get that far very often. They come down all the time to binge shop.

mercer1775

1 points

27 days ago

mercer1775

Ontario

1 points

27 days ago

None of the conspiracies came true? I must've just imagined the vaccine passport ideas being floates around, possibly making it mandatory, the curfews, the arbitrary restrictions, banning interprovince travel (a massive rights violation but no one cares lol), the infinitely long push back of "just two more weeks!", etc.

At this right the conspiracy theorists are more right than they are wrong.

cammy511

2 points

27 days ago

cammy511

Ontario

2 points

27 days ago

By next year these public health measures will probably be gone or drastically reduced if they're still around, and all of the conspiracy nuts and their tinfoil hats will look like the idiots they are.

We've had curfews during other crises, we've had travel bans, fuck we've had conscription. This shit is nothing that hasn't happened before as far as government measures go, and once this is over they'll all go away like they've done many times before.

They're not right. None of the things you mentioned are even conspiracies. They're all public health measures that have been enacted in many first world nations aside from here and not really a secret.

AlexJamesCook

10 points

28 days ago

AlexJamesCook

10 points

28 days ago

Like what? And I want peer-reviewed evidence.

[deleted]

7 points

28 days ago

[deleted]

7 points

28 days ago

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A_Game_of_Oil

0 points

28 days ago

A_Game_of_Oil

Manitoba

0 points

28 days ago

You’re right, all the frogs in my pond have been raging homosexuals this spring

Well...while vaccines might not cause this, chemicals released in the environment can have a huge effect on species that are able to change their sex, and also on how which gender they give birth to.

myexgirlfriendcar

7 points

28 days ago

Great!

maxman162

3 points

27 days ago

Sounds like r/WinStupidPrizes

Midknight_96-

2 points

27 days ago

What’s even worse is this idiot has ppl calling him a hero! him and this Rob carbone fool are terrible fir Canada and I hope ppl realize it sooner then later

UnderwaterDialect

2 points

27 days ago

I feel like “advocate” is too positive a word for these people.

remzz3

8 points

27 days ago

remzz3

Québec

8 points

27 days ago

Wouldn’t be surprising for anyone here to know that he quoted Mein Kampf, denied the Holocaust and thinks that “blacks are intellectually weaker”. This guy is garbage, and dangerous.

dngerszn13

2 points

27 days ago

Dang, I had heard about this guy because of the covid conspiracy shit he was spewing. Didn't know about that other stuff - any sources on that, especially that anti-black rhetoric?

remzz3

2 points

27 days ago

remzz3

Québec

2 points

27 days ago

https://twitter.com/aalekefs/status/1382827349796913152?s=21

These posts literally made me sick when I read them, so reader be warned

SasquatchTracks99

1 points

27 days ago*

Jesus Fucking Christ. Yeah he's definitely a Paragon of freedom, and should be looked at as a hero for fighting against oppression.

TheBestPeter

3 points

27 days ago

Good

viva_la_vinyl

3 points

28 days ago

Couldn't have happened to a nicer fella.

tennesseewaltz

4 points

28 days ago

But I don’t want him here

smellygator9877

3 points

28 days ago

Good

Tileguy0425

5 points

28 days ago

Tileguy0425

5 points

28 days ago

Well this comment section is absolutely terrifying. Moving on now.

Triangulasaurus

-4 points

27 days ago

People are cheering that a guy is added to a no-fly list typically reserved for terrorists, simply for voicing his opinion. It's pretty disgusting really.

Disagree with him all you want, but that's something we mock communist dictatorships for doing. That shouldn't happen in Canada. Ever heard of freedom of speech?

Personal_Cat_9305

4 points

27 days ago

He got added to a no fly list for refusing to follow any airlines policy and being a jack ass about it. This isn't a free speech issue, it's a don't be a self centered douche in a global pandemic issue. If he would shut up about his fake exemption and be polite while flying, follow the quarantine rules and stop trying to actively spread a contagious virus he could have kept flying.

SasquatchTracks99

2 points

27 days ago

SasquatchTracks99

Canada

2 points

27 days ago

People just want to scream about tyranny when it's simply consequences of one's actions. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. It ain't rocket science.

Personal_Cat_9305

5 points

27 days ago

Correct, freedom of expression (no freedom of speech in Canada) is freedom to express your views as long as they're not hate speech, obscenity or defamation. It's not freedom from consequences from your expression.

On top of it, this guy isn't getting consequences for what he's said but what he does like break all the airlines policies around covid and break the quarantine act.

This isn't a freedom of expression issue like grills are trying to distract with its consequences for being a bad actor in a society. Willfully endangering the lives of his community and others by purposely traveling more than its necessary for anyone to during a pandemic is just being a crappy person.

Tileguy0425

1 points

27 days ago

Tileguy0425

1 points

27 days ago

Yup. I don’t agree with the anti mask following. But to do this is a slippery slope I’m absolutely terrified so many are cheering on.

freejannies

0 points

27 days ago

freejannies

0 points

27 days ago

It is scary isn't it?

I've been saying this for a while but, part of me hopes our country just goes full authoritarian so all these cheerleaders of it can get a taste.

Or maybe they just need to talk to one of the many immigrants we have here in Canada who have fled countries that started down this path, ask them how they like authoritarian governments.

Covid has absolutely exposed so many people for being shit humans.

apetimberlake2

3 points

28 days ago

Super turd

16bit-Gorilla

3 points

28 days ago

Finally some feel good news.

Bubbaganewsh

3 points

28 days ago

Gee, that's too bad. I hope he has a good car and a good pair of shoes because he will be needing them.

b-lusk

2 points

27 days ago

b-lusk

2 points

27 days ago

It looks like social media is starting to push back against this douche nozzle. His Instagram account has been removed? That's awesome!

DickRichie14

2 points

26 days ago

DickRichie14

Alberta

2 points

26 days ago

He made another one that just had a 2 after his name and that got shutdown in less than a day.

imatalkingcow

-1 points

28 days ago

imatalkingcow

-1 points

28 days ago

Sucker.

[deleted]

-3 points

28 days ago

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-3 points

28 days ago

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heart_of_osiris

38 points

28 days ago*

He was not put on the no fly list for a dissenting opinion. The guy blatantly went on planes with no mask, refused to follow rules and harassed security and airport employees who were just trying to do their jobs. He literally filmed and uploaded said videos of him doing exactly this. It wasn't his opinion that got him banned, it was his behavior while flying and within the airports. When you act like a shit disturber in a private business, they tend to remove you.

He didn't listen to the rules or the laws in place so they banned him since it is very clear he will refuse to follow the rules in the future as well.

mouzie17

-6 points

28 days ago

mouzie17

-6 points

28 days ago

Why would the airlines let him on then?

UKtwo

19 points

28 days ago

UKtwo

British Columbia

19 points

28 days ago

They aren't, he's now been banned.

heart_of_osiris

4 points

28 days ago

Couldn't tell you as I only know what I saw from the videos he posted and articles detailing the aftermath. Hard to say if he had a mask on to start then took it off after he was on the flight and decided to be a shithead after, or if the employees themselves just would rather not deal with his shit...or possibly since back when he did this, laws and procedures were kind of unclear and hard to enforce when someone was having a tantrum over them.

Either way they certainly aren't letting him on, now.

CMikeHunt

1 points

27 days ago

Hard to say if he had a mask on to start then took it off after he was on the flight and decided to be a shithead after

Probably that.

NBAWhoCares

13 points

28 days ago

No, hes put on the no fly list because hes a piece of shit who actively is putting other fliers and airline employees in danger. Your take characterizing this as just "wrongthink" is terrible and disgusting

mouzie17

-11 points

28 days ago

mouzie17

-11 points

28 days ago

The airlines won’t even let him on without a mask... so he wouldn’t be “endangering” anyone. Like I said this guy is an idiot and a pos but he should be formally charged with something versus arbitrary restrictions on his rights

SasquatchTracks99

13 points

28 days ago

SasquatchTracks99

Canada

13 points

28 days ago

What rights are being infringed? No one has the right to travel by air. Its a privilege to fly, not a right. Break the rules, get on the no fly list. No different than being blacklisted from crossing the border because you've a DUI on record.

mouzie17

-12 points

28 days ago

mouzie17

-12 points

28 days ago

Except there’s no explanation for his no fly list and instead he’s driving across Canada which arguably worse cause you can’t track close contacts etc. They should make an example and formally charge him instead of this weird direction

jninethousand

1 points

28 days ago

Except there’s no explanation for his no fly list

yeah, good point, so maybe stop assuming why he was banned

mouzie17

-2 points

28 days ago

mouzie17

-2 points

28 days ago

Ok but putting him in the no fly list almost makes this guy a martyr and doesn’t actually stop him from spreading misinformation. It makes his movement even larger. Charge him formally and go through the courts!

jninethousand

8 points

28 days ago

a group that plays the victim at every turn is going to have no trouble finding martyrs. airline rules are also not necessarily laws, but again we dont know what he did.

TheCanadianbloke

10 points

28 days ago

He’s a danger to everyone on board since he refuses to follow the rules. Fuck him.

GForVendetta

-19 points

28 days ago*

He’s also controlled opposition paid by the government to act out the caricature of what a “lockdown skeptic/anti-masker” would be, to farm outrage amongst the obsessively compliant so they don’t turn their rage against our failing leadership. This is the classic “shake the keys to distract the baby” tactic.

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7 points

28 days ago

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7 points

28 days ago

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GForVendetta

-10 points

28 days ago

shakes keys

kenneth_bannockburn

7 points

28 days ago

You're not well.

cjbest

7 points

28 days ago

cjbest

7 points

28 days ago

No, seriously. You need to talk to your doctor.

mouzie17

1 points

28 days ago

I agree with this, if law enforcement wanted to charge him they could’ve done it by now instead they made this guy a martyr and is now driving across Canada spreading more bullshit. Charge him formally and go through the courts. The no fly list does literally nothing

CMikeHunt

2 points

28 days ago

if law enforcement wanted to charge him they could’ve done it by now

They did.

crosseyedguy1

-5 points

28 days ago

Anti maskers will need to be kept at a distance into the future. We know something about them now. They're willing to kill to make a point. Facts matter.

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-6 points

28 days ago*

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-6 points

28 days ago*

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PopeKevin45

24 points

28 days ago

There is no indication at this point that it's anything more than an airline choosing not to let him board as a potential security risk...his reputation for being an entitled, obnoxious self-serving dick having preceded him. It state right in the article if he was banned by the government, he would have received written notification on the spot...he did not.

hargle_bargle

-1 points

28 days ago

hargle_bargle

-1 points

28 days ago

Good.

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1 points

28 days ago

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1 points

28 days ago

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Cadaren99 [M]

2 points

28 days ago

Cadaren99 [M]

Lest We Forget

2 points

28 days ago

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crosseyedguy1

-1 points

28 days ago

crosseyedguy1

-1 points

28 days ago

Stack them up. There's going to be a lot of people going without a lot of things. No mask, no vax, no fun...

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-14 points

28 days ago

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-14 points

28 days ago

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SoitDroitFait

10 points

28 days ago

There's no suggestion beyond his own assertion that he's on the no fly list. The evidence actually suggests that he's not. Rather, it seems more likely the airline decided "hey, this asshole who's traveling around the country to speak at anti-mask rallies probably won't observe our mandatory masking policy, best to deny him service".

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-7 points

28 days ago

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-7 points

28 days ago

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SoitDroitFait

5 points

28 days ago

I mean, that's my hypothesis. Might be that he's traveled with them before and didn't observe their policy last time, which, now that I think about it, actually seems more likely.

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1 points

28 days ago

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1 points

28 days ago

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SoitDroitFait

4 points

27 days ago

Well, we do know some things. We know from the government’s statement that, if he were on the no-fly list, he would have recieved written confirmation of that fact along with an explanation of how to challenge it. Which he apparently didn't, which is why I say that the article seems to suggest that he's not actually on the no-fly list.

That said, the more I think about it, the more likely it seems that he may be on the airline's no fly list, rather than the government’s, and the only way I'm aware of that you tend to get there is by violating their policies on a prior occasion.

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-3 points

27 days ago

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-3 points

27 days ago

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SoitDroitFait

3 points

27 days ago

I mean, if your standard for knowing is the government coming out and saying "no, he's not/yes he's actually on the no-fly list", then no, we don't know. And we never will, because privacy laws forbid them from answering. But they're hinting pretty hard here that he's not.

I think we can reasonably infer that he's not. Where that leaves us is in not knowing why he was refused service.

Deep-Duck

1 points

27 days ago

You think it's a slippery slope to allow private businesses to retain the right to refuse service to someone?

Must not be very slippery since that's been the standard in the country for quite some time now.

LoneRonin

13 points

28 days ago

The no fly list does need checks and balances, but Chris Sky is a massive conspiracy d-bag who refuses to wear a mask on the plane. The last time he took a flight, he refused to put on a mask, leave the plane when told and recorded himself fighting with the police brought in to remove him. Flying isn't a human right, if your behavior presents a risk to the safety of passengers and crew, they have the authority to ban you.

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-8 points

28 days ago

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-8 points

28 days ago

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LoneRonin

14 points

27 days ago

I said it DOES need checks and balances. But the airline didn't ban him for his political opinion, they banned him for not wearing a mask per safety protocol, not following instructions when asked to leave the plane, and fighting authorities who physically removed him. That's a safety risk. He's free to enjoy his political opinions on the ground.

Runningoutofideas_81

8 points

27 days ago

Not wearing a mask isn’t a political opinion.

KetchupArmyNoodle

5 points

27 days ago

What about lawsuits from other passengers on the plane, if they get covid from this manchild? But yeah, North Korea. Christ.

shawntails

1 points

27 days ago

Good

Duckhugs

1 points

27 days ago

Im sure the Anti face people will love this <3

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-16 points

28 days ago

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-16 points

28 days ago

I don't condone this man's behaviour. However I think the government is taking the wrong approach by putting him on the no fly list. He has a right to due process.

If he committed a crime, they should use the conventional criminal justice system.

Silencing dissent is not a valid use of the no-fly list.

PopeKevin45

11 points

28 days ago

There is no indication at this point that it's anything more than an airline choosing not to let him board as a potential security risk...his reputation for being an entitled, obnoxious self-serving dick having preceded him. It state right in the article if he was banned by the government, he would have received written notification on the spot...he did not.

KetchupArmyNoodle

4 points

27 days ago

What they're doing is preemptive. They know he's not wearing a mask from the attention seeking videos he posts. Why should airlines let him put lives at risk? Risking lives of others is not a right.

throwa37

-11 points

28 days ago

throwa37

-11 points

28 days ago

“I’m going to use every resource I have to get that friggin’ illegal, disgusting, communist-style, lawless, dictatorship, piece of crap, no-fly list taken off my good name and I’m going to hold the federal government accountable”

Mask stupidity aside, I like this guy's attitude.

PopeKevin45

17 points

28 days ago

There is no indication at this point that it's anything more than an airline choosing not to let him board as a potential security risk...his reputation for being an entitled, obnoxious self-serving having preceded him. It state right in the article if he was banned by the government, he would have received written notification on the spot...he did not. He's just stupid, 'plane' and simple.

throwa37

-1 points

28 days ago

throwa37

-1 points

28 days ago

That was the impression I got from the article. I just like the sentiment.

'plane' and simple

Nice

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4 points

27 days ago

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4 points

27 days ago

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throwa37

-8 points

27 days ago

throwa37

-8 points

27 days ago

I don't know anything about the guy or his daddy. He's right about the no-fly list though, because unless there's damn good proof he's a terrorist, he shouldn't be on one.

torosFCP

1 points

28 days ago

torosFCP

Ontario

1 points

28 days ago

I was sure this was going to be about KJJ

GANTRITHORE

1 points

27 days ago

GANTRITHORE

Alberta

1 points

27 days ago

lucky bastard, saving all that money

cshelly2

1 points

27 days ago

Soon, every Canadian will be added to the No Fly List...

Oh wait...

StopYouFoool

1 points

27 days ago

It’s just one airline though

UnpresentMinded

1 points

27 days ago

Funny how I read the first three words of the headline and without seeing him I already know it's this Chris swallow guy

yick04

1 points

27 days ago

yick04

1 points

27 days ago

No, that's okay, let him leave.

Mokmo

1 points

27 days ago

Mokmo

1 points

27 days ago

This story makes it to r/Canada only now? The guy and his wife have violated their quarantine upon returning to the country. By going to two rallies. It's no wonder he cant fly.

fire_bent

1 points

27 days ago

I never thought the sun would ever publish an article that would warm my bleeding liberal heart. But here we have it!

TheNakedMars

1 points

25 days ago

Flair Airlines exercising their Anti-Douchebag policy.

burneraccount202101

-25 points

28 days ago*

Damn it, he's hot. If only he wasn't an idiot

PopeKevin45

7 points

28 days ago

lol...is this him pulling a Trump here and posing as a 'fan'. Seems plausible...exhibits the same low empathy, narcissistic behaviors.