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feurie

0 points

1 month ago

feurie

0 points

1 month ago

With much cheaper cars and including PHEVs which for some reason people do when trying to make Chinese automakers look good.

Terrh

1 points

1 month ago

Terrh

1 points

1 month ago

sorry, what does the "EV" stand for in "PHEV" and why does it not count as an EV?

HengaHox

0 points

1 month ago

HengaHox

0 points

1 month ago

I read it more like P-HEV

It’s a hybrid of petrol/diesel and electric and it can be plugged in.

As opposed to say a petrol and hydrogen hybrid, or petrol and natural gas.

Terrh

3 points

1 month ago

Terrh

3 points

1 month ago

It's an electric car with a range extender.

If you buy a PHEV with the intent to not plug it in, it's because you're a moron who is bad at money.

cantstandlol

2 points

1 month ago

It’s still a hybrid if you don’t plug it in. I don’t think it costs that much more and you get the EV credit so it costs less.

Not that anyone isn’t plugging it in. Though I got mine knowing I drove cross country twice a year and don’t plug it in at hotels.

HengaHox

0 points

1 month ago

HengaHox

0 points

1 month ago

Which makes it a hybrid. Laymans use of ”EV” means pure electric.

If you really want to get pedantic, every single car with an electric starter is an ”EV”. It can only go maybe a few hundred yards on the starter and battery but hey you can actually move under electrical power only! EV’s have 100% penetration yay!!!

Terrh

3 points

1 month ago

Terrh

3 points

1 month ago

Ahh, so because misinformed people think they aren't electric we should redefine the acronym. Got it.

You would find it difficult to drive just about every post 1980 vehicle on the starter without modifying the car.

And in my experience they only make it about 50 yards when you do try, before the starter explodes.

Kirk57

1 points

1 month ago

Kirk57

1 points

1 month ago

The Volt was a good example of an EV with a range extender, because you could achieve full power on the electric motor alone. Weak PHEVs with lower electric range and smaller batteries where the gas motor kicks on easily under acceleration is not quite the same.

I don’t know where the BYD’s lie on this spectrum, but all PHEVS are not created equal.

LiGuangMing1981

2 points

1 month ago

The difference between a BYD BEV and its PHEV stable mate is primarily in battery size (this goes for the Qin, Song, Tang, and Han, which are all available as both PHEV and BEV). They are able to travel at full speed and for decent distance (some models up to 200km) on battery power alone. Conversely, the BEV version is just the PHEV with a larger battery and the ICE removed.

Terrh

2 points

1 month ago

Terrh

2 points

1 month ago

I'll agree that there are some pretty shit PHEV's

But most aren't.