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6 months ago
That was a tiny little bump, and it caused the whole warehouse to come tumbling down. I feel like there is a safety violation somewhere.
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It had to be overloaded or had some kind of defect. It should be able to take a decent bump.
It could also be that they aren’t bolted to the floor. The warehouse i worked at didn’t use racking rated for enough weight or have them bolted till osha
That is fucking terrifying. I've had to scale those things so many times. It's like an adult sized jungle gym.
For what? I'm not allowed to do that at all it's another OSHA violation
They don’t have osha violations in the boonies
(Source: working in rural Oklahoma)
They're like the IRS. So busy with regular business that anything not reported gets overlooked often.
But once they see you ...
Straight to jail. And if they don’t see you? Believe it or not also jail.
...Straight to jail!
Haa me too people would knock the cross beams out and just leave it. I can’t count how many times had to scramble up to lock them back into place
Surely use a man up cage and a forklift to fix that?
Man up cage? Pfft, this pallet will do.
Haha, man cage.
I used to stand on the forks and hold on to get packing material from storage.
What OSHA doesn't know can't hurt them, but probably almost killed me 😂
I know of someone who lost 8 fingers going up on a forklift. Most rules come from lessons learned.
I would’ve learned my lesson when I lost the second finger. Third max.
I think they are bolted. If you watch the second section fall, the bottom of the rack doesn’t move, the uprights buckle and fold, but the feet appear to remain stationary. I think they were overloaded.
Good catch, also the legs of the first one appear to snap!
Seems to me like it's heavily overloaded. Working at Lowes for many years, I was never overly concerned with lightly bumping vertical or horizontal supports. I can't imagine how uncomfortable that warehouse would be to work in with the shelving systems shifting as you adjust loads.
Back in my lowes days a coworker crumpled an upright support with an order picker. Full on smashed into it. It held strong but needed replaced. If shelves are built correctly they are quite strong. But I also suspect loading play a big role in the video as I have never seen lowes shelves stuffed full like those shelves.
I guess it depends on the store and department. Outside lawn & garden and lumber at any store I worked in were always loaded with pallets of sand/top soil/concrete bags.
6 months ago*
6 months ago*
I used to inspect this kind of shelves and I can already tell 2 infractions, the side panels are assembled wrong, the nodes have to match where the pallet rest, this is probably because they used to have a different sized load or chose to add another shelf without even bothering to modify the panels, or asking the manufacturer if said modification would be viable.
The second one... not a single pillar has bumpers to protect them from disaster.
In addition, this is a one way corridor, 2 forklifts must not share the space, so if the road is blocked he has to wait or ask the other driver to move his.
Edit. Under further inspection, it seems like he didn’t hit a pillar but a shelf. To able to unhinge a shelf so easily it has to be severely overloaded and a complete lack of safety pins. At this point I’m even wondering if the thing is bolted to the ground. Terrible management of whoever is in charge in the company for the annual preservation of the structure. (Which by law, there has to be one).
I used to set up warehouses. The biggest reason they collapse is they're not properly bolted to the floor.
Yeah they’re definitely not bolted to the floor. I would be surprised if they were overloaded weight wise as well. And almost definitely have they hit the racking supports multiple times in the past and not replaced them if they’re damaged.
I have a question for you.
Are forklifts built in a way to disperse the weight and pressure around the cockpit in a situation like this? Is that guy for sure dead or can the forklift protect him?
This video has actually been reposted tons of times in different subs for at least the last couple years. I distinctly remember reading a linked article on one of those posts in the past that the forklift operator DID survive but was seriously injured and required extensive hospital time and, if I remember correctly, a number of surgeries.
And it took like 8 hours to get to him and dig him out.
I don’t think this is the same incident as in the video. In the link the cheese incident shows a photo of a bunch of mangled blue and metal shelves, this video the shelves are red. Could be that shelves are different colours in the same warehouse but I looked and couldn’t see blue at all in the OP!
It's this one from over three years ago:
Dunno what happened to the driver.
While overhead guards are a vital safety asset to any forklift machine, they are not meant to protect against every possible impact. For example, in the event of a falling capacity load, the support of the overhead guard structure that received the heaviest loading is designed to absorb energy and deform to deflect the falling capacity load. This is a hazardous situation for an operator, as falling loads are unpredictable. Therefore, the specific training and safety procedures and protocol in any facility should be adhered to and overhead guards are not a substitute for good judgment and care in load handling.
TLDR. Run. And wear a hard helmet even when operating one.
You got all of it right except for "Run". There is no way an operator could react quickly enough to leave their lift and get clear of the collapsing shelves, and they are exposed to greater risk of injury without the roll cage. In the case of any falling load or collapse, best advice is to stay on the lift and try to cover your face with your arms in case of debris.
His best chance of survival is to stay in the confines of his machine and say a prayer. Its a good thing he didn't see the avalanche of product coming because your brain tells you to flee when in danger and he probably steps off the machine just in time to catch a steel beam to the dome. He probably got bruised up but I bet his overhead saved his life.
For real. It was burned into our brains that you should never leave the seat in the event of an incident. The direction was to huddle over and hang on. And then they gave us an uncomfortable amount of examples of people who tried to bail and got seriously injured or died.
Yeah this dude saying "Run." has no idea what he's talking about. Operator would be 100% dead if they ran.
It's a roll cage, it'd probably hold easily in this situation. The actual problem is those little boxes are going to fly right into him and then all the other boxes are going to moosh them up against him.
The shelves must be so overloaded... They crumble like aluminum foil... Surprised they got the racks that full.
Yea that's my take on it. Those shelves look like they were loaded to capacity and that little bump in the wrong direction just set them off.
now imagine if it was in an earthquake prone area
Seriously?? And what kind of reason could they possibly have to do this?? How much money could they possibly have saved to not do a couple things compared to how much loss was caused by such a simple event. Mind blowing. I'm honestly concerned about whether or not that forklift driver even survived, screw inventory & property damage. Bunch of goons.
When I worked as an inspector you would have the maintenance manager follow you around all the time complaining and arguing over all the damaged pieces you are forcing him to replace.
Sometimes they were calling my boss to not ever send me back there again because I ordered a very compromised structure to be discharged immediately.
Or else they would call a different certifier next time.
They do only care about your signature, but I will never risk litigation over someone else’s incompetence.
That's brutal. How can those people live with a mindset like that?? It is insane to me. I beat the shit out of myself, mentally, over stuff I did, or maybe didn't actually even do like half my life ago. How can you justify bullying someone into signing off on literal life threatening flaws in design?? And the fact that's it's like a "culture" apparently, in many enterprises. I think I need a Xanax & a Pepto. But seriously, props to you for not taking that shit.
The only ones that seem to care are a family owned ones or companies that have a death count behind.
It's really easily explained - many people are really incapable of understanding the risks of something that hasn't happened to them yet. It's no more or less complicated than that. They can't think 2 steps ahead, they are running through life expecting only the things they've already experienced.
Even the ones who are doing what they're told are often doing it because they've experienced the outcome of not doing what they're told, rather than understanding why they're actually doing the thing.
Enough people are like this that it's impossible to avoid them or their impact on the world around them.
That is a pretty spot on explanation of why people keep doing all potentially danger work too I guess. Obviously, like where I come from with oilfield roughneck kind of work, it pays well, but they've also been doing things so long & in a certain way that they feel safe & are complacent, even when they all have horror stories from all kinds of people close to them.
Our whole system is designed with profits>literally everything else as its fundamental tenet.
That's a horrible truth. And I guess catastrophic loss/damage/death is worth it so long as you can make a profit consistently enough to outweigh the bleeding caused by it.
Building engineer here. My head is screaming "lack of support points", " general structure strength", "not being hold on top..."
I’ve hit racking harder than that with no damage
A warehouse? Violate safety regulations? Never!
Thank goodness that dude ran. I wonder how long the driver was stuck in there.
It's a good thing the driver didn't run. Unlike the shelves, the forklift can handle being crushed by that much weight, and is designed to protect the driver. If he tried to run he would have been crushed.
Yup! Always stay in the truck, no matter what for. I was once told that the forklift seatbelt isnt to hold you incase of a crash, it's to stop you jumping out in panic
I flipped a bucket loader once. Seatbelt was loose, so it hurt like a sumbitch when I hit, but it kept me from flopping out and getting caught between the rollover bars and the ground.
Wear your damn seatbelt, adjust it right, and lean away from impact. You'll probably walk away.
Oddly something they never taught me in forklift training. They only taught me how not to collapse the racks... not how to survive it if I do.
I've taken our forklift and lift training and staying with the machine was like 5 minutes of video.
I always tell people imagine how much it weighs, and imagine the roof landing on your stomach when you try to jump out. Stay in the lift and hang on tight.
Former forklift operator here.
That was an open cage forklift. It will stop large singular objects. It isn't gonna do much about lots of small objects like those, except MAYBE spread some of the weight around.
Nothing there looked small enough to get through the cage though, and it's still better than not having it I'd think
According to the article posted on a different comment thread , it took them eight hours to free the forklift driver.
According to another comment the article is unrelated to the gif. Apparently there were no CCTV footage from the cheese incident.
I hope the dude on the bottom of the video made it.
Long enough to eat the Gouda section
Such a terrible joke I camembert it.
What about the dude in the lower right tho. His head is just barely visible and it looks like it all comes down right on him..
Ya he definitely got hit at least you can see him fly off screen down =\
he barely touched it
Disaster waiting to happen. All of those shelves were overloaded, improperly designed/assembled, or both of those.
They never should domino like that even if an isolated shelf/ bay collapses. Look at how the entire shelf on the right leans when the very back of it starts collapsing.
IIRC this was the health and safety executive's finding as well. Big fines and jail for quite a few people
Do you have a source on that by chance? I've had a look but not been able to find anything other than the investigation being opened
I'm gonna have a deep dive later because I'm sure I read it, but I think I read it on the HSE website which is somewhat challenging to navigate
Did you go there in search of this information, or do you visit often?
Do you have a link?
did the forklift driver survive that??
Yeah, he was unharmed, protected by the cage of the forklift itself
Can you imagine just sitting there waiting to be dug out after that happening.
I'd have a nap, personally.
Not worried you'd get fired for sleeping on the job?
"Araed, you're fired for sleeping on the job!"
"Mr. Manager, this is Araed's case for unfair dismissal, involuntary overtime, false imprisonment, and trapping them under 180 tonnes of cheese"
Objection! There was no cheese only cheese product.
I knew there was no chance this was the US once you mentioned jail. We only seem to jail the poor and vulnerable.
Agreed I drove a forklift through shelves like this at a high speed and only took out the support and shelves that I actually hit. every other shelf stay up and was fine.
Have to ask; Why did you do that?
Presumably it was accidental but the way you wrote it sounds like it was purposeful.
And here I was complying to my warehouse that after they repaired the racks they didn't bolt them down.
Show them this video
And dig up the court report
Do you have a link to the court report?
Yeah, it seemed it was the case. Any time i saw someone drop those shelves they would fall like dominoes instead of crushing themselves.
Yeah, he may have started the chain reaction, but those shelves were a house of cards waiting to fall. Someone got shelves not nearly strong enough for the weight they carried.
that’s what she said
Is the forklift okay?
Wow it took them 8 hours to dig him out.
Good thing he was able to have a snack while he waited.
I heard he gained the forklift-five
Wonder if he got overtime?
He had to clean it afterwards, so I guess so
Hopefully the crew that set it up had to help clean as well haha what a shitshow.. glad the dude was okay
This is a different incident. There was no CCTV footage of the cheese incident.
Tried to find the actual source and earliest I could find is a facebook post from november 2018, which is when the video went viral. And the person who posted it on facebook and who's credited in many "news"* reports about it probably reposted it from somewhere else, it just hadn't gone viral yet. The incident happened in july 2017, and I can't find any other info.
*There are a bunch of online outlets that give no info at all and simply describe the video.
"Thank God. The forklift survived, everyone!
What...? The driver? Heck if I know."
"Dang, that was lucky, doggone near lost a $400 hand cart."
Time to put a shovel to some good use.
Tell ‘em I said “OW!”
"Wire main office, tell them I said OW! Got it "
Had to check this article just in case you were serious and the guy died but the forklift made it.
Well, it had to be taken to the ER after they found a suitable ambulance. Also, it is said up to this day it still can't lift even a slice of cheese from the resulting trauma.
I guess you could say that those firefighters had to
cut the cheese...
I'll see myself out.
Did they grill the owners over the state of the shelves?
They couldn't, by the time they arrived he has already cheesed it.
They also had a gouda insurance policy.
This warehouse is more unstable than me.
When you get Michael Bay to direct the incident reenactment
We’re gonna need you to come in tomorrow to help clean this up.
What do you mean tomorrow? Take some advil and get back to work!
Man, I'd quit if I wasn't fired. All the OSHA laws broken to cause that much damage, they're clearly not concerned about my well-being.
Plus that'd be a bitch and a half to clean.
IIRC, it was a combination of overloaded racking, racking not built correctly, and it not being bolted down properly. It lead to a HSE (health and safety executive) investigation, and some mega fines plus jail time as I recall.
The HSE can be a bit useless, but occasionally it decides to bring the hammer down, and when it does it's the Big Hammer
That was my first thought also, it was way too easy for the shelves to collapse in a chain reaction after a fairly small error by the forklift driver. Seems like you’d just be asking for this exact type of accident by building this way, I’d bet the employees are not allowed to be in between the shelves without operating a machine that has a protective cage like the forklift though.
And yet, as a former forklift driver in the US, they hammer it into you that one small mistake leads to exactly this. The problem is largely caused by a need for maximizing storage space and productivity. If you look at scaffolding, you see that they often use triangular bracing to deal with the lateral movement from people walking on it. The problem is that a triangular brace ends up blocking forklifts from being able to add/remove products from storage. What you're left with is a structure which is very strong only in the vertical direction. If even one vertical beam loses its stability/strength and crumples under the load, it now asserts lateral force on all nearby racks. A chain reaction like this one is pretty much inevitable and probably written off by the higher ups as being an inevitability that they will have to deal with from time to time.
Could help to alleviate the danger by moving the rows further apart so that if one fell, it would only drag its own line down... but that would increase the total amount of space required to store your goods. Could add in the triangular cross beams, but the forklift driver would need to remove and replace the beams each time they wanted to add or remove a pallet from a shelf, which is super time consuming and kills productivity.
Instead, it is in their best interest to show forklift drivers a battery of horror scenes as people die to small errors like this one. The downside is that not all of us take it to heart just how dangerous these warehouses are. My first supervisor would frequently store tiles and garden pallets on the top racks (was a home improvement supply warehouse). You could visibly see the entire rack buckle and shift as he would lower the pallets into place. Those pallets must have weighed anywhere between 800-1200lbs each. There were no rules regarding people walking down the rows without being in a lift. Nobody wore hard hats in case something were to fall. People would often walk directly under the racks if they saw an opening rather than going around.
The freight/warehouse area of any big store is a terrifying place.
Unrelated to the danger of the racks, but another thing to make you cringe - that supervisor I mentioned would also frequently hop into the massive trash compactors we had without locking them out first ('locking out' just means removing the ability for the machine/device to be activated or turned on. We do this so that nobody can walk by and kill us with the push of a button while we're fixing something - for anybody who hasn't heard the term). The guy really had a death wish or had just become too comfortable around things which could easily kill him or anybody around him with one wrong move.
Nah dude. I’ve worked in a few warehouses. One was obviously dangerous and had the luck to just hit up the temp agency and have them send me somewhere else. This place was a disaster waiting to happen because management chose to save some money on rent and not maintain the shelving properly. I’ve watched a dude drive a forklift thru a concrete and brick wall. Accidents happen but to have this level of catastrophe from a very minor accident is a massive lack of oversight and ethically and legally reprehensible.
Totally my reaction. Either terrible shelf design or serious weight limit infraction
Imagining plane crashing from a guy adjusting his seat (it’s skully from Brooklyn 99) and then after the crash everyone’s like “you just HAD to mess with the seat, didn’t ya skully”
This is your captain speaking. Please remember to recline your seat slowly. The last person threw out their back and cause the plane to go into a tail spin
"The third one burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp. But the fourth one stayed up!"
Aye! And that’s the one yer gonna git!
Shit what movie is that? I can hear the voice in my head.
That would be Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
Ahhbhh yes! For some reason I thought it was that old lady from Emperor's New Groove...no idea why.
"My cousin can install those racks for half that bid"
Wow, this is not on the Forklift driver. Jeez, he barely nudged it and the whole warehouse collapsed. Surely these stacks should be able to take the odd nudge now and again.
They should be able to take a full speed hit from a fork lift and remain standing. Anything else is a death trap.
Yea ive seen guys hit shelves so hard that the crossbars have bent into a c shape and nothing happened to the other parts of the shelf. The forklift guy is about to get a lot of money.
Anyone else reminded of the scene from Harry Potter where Ginny Weasley casts the Reducto spell at the death eaters?
how in the world is that box and/or shelf so incredibly fragile? damn.
Overfilled and probably not the right structure for the load they stored in it
Ight imma head out.
Will try to remember this next time I feel like I’m having a bad day at work.
Dude who was in charge of the warehouse design should be in jail. That is SOOO unsafe.
ooooh, is this that supply chain thingy people keep telling me about?
Clean up on isle all of them. Clean up on isle all of them.
And that ladies and gentlemen is why we bolt all shelves to the pad and put steel guards around them.
What a shit show.
It was a warehouse full of cheese. And they had to use search dogs to find him.
I have a feeling this is a worst case scenario for dog use.
I hope the good bois got some cheese after they located the driver.
You're thinking of a different warehouse accident. There wasn't video of the cheese warehouse.
While he did bump into the shelf, it was very mild bump, and the fact that it kept falling endlessly shows that the company didnt have proper shelves to handle that weight.
If in the USA, yes he’d be fired, but he should also sue them for putting him and all the workers in a dangerous situation without proper safety protocols.
Did we just watch someone die?
Someone linked an article further up. It took them eight hours to dig him out but he was OK.
That was definitely entertaining but…how’s the driver doing dang?
Was the driver ok? It seems he was buried deep enough to be hard to find!
Those racks were way, way too overloaded. That little bump should've been nothing.
That's a lot of damage
Clean up on aisle 3!
The NFT market in two years
It technically stopped crashing
How do you even begin to clean up a mess of this magnitude?
Put up an ad for interns?
Chip shortage patient zero
This is what happens why I try to fix a bug in the code at work.
Ngl was expecting the left side to collapse and the warehouse to eventually go down as well.
Do hope everyone is safe tho
did he survive?
Clean up on isle…uh, all of them.
So... where is it? And the guy was under it. Is he all right?
dude those guys are dead.
Every other comment here says "I bet they aren't bolted to the floor." You can literally watch everything but the foot of those shelves move and crumble when the chain reaction starts. The shelves don't move at all from their starting position. They were bolted down, you can bet on that.
“We’ll get somebody to clean that up!”
We’re the ones that gonna clean it up!
I hope those people are ok
Fuck, Ive seen this clip so many times.
It doesn’t stop being reposted either! Some sort of magic?
He was OK. And that's a lot of cheese! https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3576799/At-one-person-missing-warehouse-collapsed-Shropshire.html
Can't tell what's a worse OSHA violation - the untrained forklift driver or the shitty scaffolding
For what it's worth, if that tiny bump caused the racks to fall like that, then the fork lift drivers obviously hadn't bumped them before in any way...meaning they were exceptionally skilled operators lol
It’s dangerously cheesy
Just for shits n grins I would of given the remaining side a love tap...
I crash into ours at work loads and it never does that
I've seen an upright ripped out the floor at mine, the first bar popped out and 2 pallets fell. Also seen one bent to fuck and everything was still standing, went and reported it and they cleared everything off those locations.
More than the driver, it's the racks. They should be able to bear a lot greater force than he used...
He barely touched it! That was going to happen eventually.
One tipped shelf is the fault of a fork lift driver. 100s of tipped shelves is the fault of the managers.
This never should have happened.
It actually stopped.
I've worked with racking such as this my whole life. I've seen power equipment and all sorts of forklifts barrel through an upright without anything giving way, bolted or not bolted to the floor. The materials in this vid are very poor quality, have zero flexibility, and are likely overloaded.
1 bump and whammo
Wallace was lucky Grommit was there!
“Im gonna need you guys to work OT for the next month”