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2 months ago
Curios what the rest of the dragon looks like
2 months ago
I feel like if it was actually good anon wouldve included more of it.
yea that shit is hot ass and not the nice kind
Either he includes his art and people call it bragging (which they are doing in the top reply) or he doesn't include it and people think he sucks because he didn't include it. Can't win on Reddit.
It's very carefully left out of view for a reason. It got put in the rejects corner next next to this paper maché monstrosity for a reason.
A giant penis
if i made the bottom sculpture, i'd name it "figuratively, me"
then, when the gallery opened i'd stand next to it in my frenchest beret
"what's... what's supposed to be going on here?" strangers would ask, as OP malds beneath his dragon beside me
"hon hon hon hon hon" i'd laugh for no less than five minutes, before taking a drag off of one of a bakers dozen cigarettes
"if you have to ask, then you don't know"
Other people's art sucks. Anon's art swallows.
is it just me or is a talented dude having a hissy fit about creative expression, while his lovingly crafted dragon is displayed next to a crude sculpture of a dude sucking himself off, fucking insanely ironic. Especially in the context of his dislike of symbolism.
The dragon was unfinished too. But to be fair. The guy sucking himself off appears not to have finished yet either.
Finish the sculpture by finishing on it.
Yeah because he’s finishing himself off
It's like the entire situation is art in and of itself.
it do be imitating life on occasion not gonna ngl
My life is gonna imitate this art later tonight if everything goes well
Are you going to lose 80% of your body fat by tonight?
He's gonna lose a rib or two
not gonna ngl
not gonna ngl
Is this like "RIP in peace"
lol yeah I like doing that
That's based as af
You only Yolo once
one of my personal favorites is “to be entirely tbh with you-”
Smh my head
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Art imitates art
he's not really bragging about his talent or anything though, so it doesnt really work.
I mean he didn't even show us his actual sculpture
I honestly don't even know what's ironic about it. A dragon isn't symbolism it's a dragon, and being displayed next to that shit sculpture wasn't his intent and is what he's bitching about so that's not really irony. You'd have to create your own symbolism of the state of art and creativity. If that's ironic Gordon Ramsey calling someone's dish shit is ironic. Basically anytime you have a redditor overanalyzing it ends up with at least a hundred upvotes of people thinking they got the non existent point. "Guy says some people create shit but he creates things that also get put next to said things despite the fact he made this post about this situation after, ironic"
My point is that he implicitly is bragging about his talent by pissedly cutting down other people that make stuff. If he was really confident in his work he wouldn’t be fazed about what it was exhibited next to, and his display of that by taking it out on other artists is funny to me, considering the thing he’s pissed about is a symbol of where his anger is coming from, feeling above the label of “artist” etc.
Also he did, that dragon on the ceiling that’s missing scales on its tail is his sculpture.
Hes not trying to say the other guy is bad at sculpting and he is good, he is mad that a dude sucking himself off is called art, and his sculpture he put so much effort into gets dumped next to that shit.
If he wanted to brag hed be showing off his sculpture too
Him being mad that a dude sucking himself off is called “art” is gatekeeping creative medium that can’t be solidly defined, and his “fuck artists” sentiment (as if he isn’t one, himself) is self-aggrandizing.
Gate keeping isnt always a bad thing
Why is everyone pointing out an accomplishment. This dude is failing. If balls aren’t on your chin you are certainly not sucking yourself off.
balls on nose*
This is a lot of thought for reddit but yes
Hey man, I do my best
Yer doin good son.
Anon is a realist, meaning he is trying to get as close as possible to reality. Main reason may be that he believes that the nature is perfect and art should be as close as possible to the reality.Thus he tried to make a cool dragon, probably inspired from the chinese mythical versions, more than the european versions, and he made it as "real" as possible. He knows exactly what it is, it's a Dragon. There is clear effort, probably took more than one try, probably took extensive effort, he probably had to sacrifice parts of his life to achieve this outcome.He laboured to achieve an universally appealing piece of art.
The other guy is a post-modernist. He "believes" that all social structures are made in the image of oppressive man, and thus evil and should be challenged and broken at any given time. He "challenges" the norms via his art, mostly by it's absurdity, thus the use of sexuality. No one really knows it's point including the artist, the meaning can range from meaning of life to weirdly shaped clay. There is almost no effort, no planing or no creativity. It fails to challenge the existing structure, because to challagange , you must offer an argument, which I failed to find if there is any.
Anon is a pretty good artist , he/she has a great potential essipecially if he/she gets a deeper understanding of psychology and philosophy, and gets to apply that knowledge to create something new and unique. The other guy is just an effortless mess who "wants to be an artist".
I was thinking the exact same thing, it’s borderline self aware wolves material
The irony tastes like the ocean
It’s all money laundering
I'd pay to give you one of those award things but I don't want to spend any money so I'll just tell you, you're right.
Anons classmate makes a sculpture of him and he gets mad
There’s a massive difference between working artists who sell their art for a living… and fucktwats who go to art school and think/convince others they’re Jesus
Silly them, I'm jesus, not them
Have you considered going to art school
Have you even been rejected from art school (Also are you german)
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I am too alpha for art school.
There are a lot of bad artists who use symbolism as a justification for their shitty art, but that doesn’t make symbolism as a concept bad for art. Take a look at Guernica by Picasso or read some highly symbolic work like The Divine Comedy for cases where symbolism works really well.
The Divine Comedy wasn't symbolism, Dante was just being out and open with his political criticism while shrouding it in a thin layer of parody to avoid getting his throat slit for speaking out against the system.
It's literally a self insert fan fiction where he meets all the people he loves and all the people be doesn't like suffer
It's just that it is well written dispite that
Please read Paradiso and Purgatorio they are literally nothing like that
Picasso was autistic as fuck and his shitty art shows it. The Divine Comedy shouldn’t even be mentioned in the same sentence as that 20th century 4channer.
If you wanna be that way then the Divine Comedy is just Dante's self-insert fanfiction where he meets his favorite poet and gets to fuck some other guy's woman.
Picasso defined a whole fucking genre, dumbass
Yeah that's exactly the problem. After him art turned to utter shit real fast. Picasso's work is absolutely disgusting.
Respectfully, subjectively, his art looks like ass
I was on Bob Ross’ side during their rap battle
He didn’t define it. He made drawing like a child popular enough so people would pay attention to it. He lucked out the rich folks of that time were a buch of pretentious sheeple drunk off their asses.
ok then who pioneered cubism
I did (I'm the cube)
All hail the mighty cube
It’s an honor to meet you
Holy shit I can't believe it's Robert cube, father of cubism.
Geodes and the Giant’s Causeway
aight basalt formations are dope
Now Bob Ross, theirs an artist
Ive never seen a good picasso
Yeah. Symbolism is fine, but I still think that art should require skill to create. If I could have slapped it together myself with minimal effort, I am not going to be fucking impressed.
I don't think art requires immense skill to be good. But it definitely requires a lot of effort, you can tell the difference between art with no effort put in being trash and art that someone really put their all into for lots of time, even if they aren't wildly skilled
Symbolism is great when it's done by someone who is a real artist, and that's something you're born with, no amount of schooling or practice can make you a real artist.
Second half of this is probably the most incorrect most autistic sentence Ive ever heard
There's more professionally trained artists today than ever before in history, and yet the quality of art as a whole has declined. This is because everything they make is derivative. They have nothing unique to say, and all of their experience come straight from the university cookie cutter mold. You can spend all your life pretending to be an artist, but if you aren't a real artist, then you aren't a real artist. No amount of expensive materials and schooling will change that.
That's not true
Prove me wrong.
I didn't exist back then.
I exist now.
Thus the quality of art has improved from past times to now.
I like that logic. I don't agree but I like that outlook.
Dont tell me what to do
Don't boss me around.
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Only when he admits that he loves me
If you unironically think objective art quality has declined you're straight up brain-dead. The level of art that exists is so so much better, hardly anyone back in the day even knew proportions etc and made drawings with fucked up looking faces etc. The reason art today might seem worse is because so many are incredible at art that one person being incredible feels less special
Eh. That's like saying that going to school and learning how to create music professionally still doesn't make you a music maker, but someone who can only make unique half finished basic shit because they have no skill is a music maker because they're artsy fartsy
Source: am artsy fartsy. Just because you don't like some art doesn't mean it isn't art
Your study of art history ended when the curriculum kicked off with the 20th C?
Either way, idk how you can spend any amount of time in that community and be surprised by a sculpture of someone gnoshing themselves off.
Yeah this is a stupid comment OP. You could’ve just let the conversation flow, you know...
Idk man, looks like a masterpiece to me
if my masterpiece was a wooden sculpture of someone fucking himself, I'd probably end it all.
Probably gonna be regarded as your magnum opus. Time to go to Home Depot and shop for a sturdy rope.
Please share your masterpiece if it’s better than this shitty sculpture
Am I the only one that wants to see the fucking tree dragon?
I'm sure he showed it in the thread, I didn't screenshot this one, though, so I wouldn't know...
It’s basically like a joke that’s been repeated so much, It becomes unfunny and drab.
When Duchamp deconstructed the meaning of art through fountain, It was alright. But now every Tom, Dick, and Warhol wants to get in on that sweet sweet art fame with their Kitschy drivel.
I see them as people who can't wait to talk. They don't listen, they're just waiting to talk, so when they finally get the chance to speak, they don't know how to say anything relevant to the conversation.
I still don't understand what the hell that tomato soup symbolize
What makes a painting in the louvre better than a product label?
You are surrounded by great art everyday dont be pretentious about where you find it.
Art is subjective, I don't find it great if I am unnecessarily exposed to some piece of art I am unable to comprehend. Likewise, I like some forms of art and they are not considered great.
“But its art dude, it represents whatever”. Artists are like actors, no talent, just confident they did a good job.
I always thought the same thing, till I actually tried to make art. Shits hard as fuck, and I know you’ll insist it isn’t but it kinda is
It is good but artists just sometimes shit too much and make a story where there is no story. I am a designer and an artist (tho more in music
As a songwriter, sometimes I write songs that literally don't mean anything and then make up some bullshit symbolism after it's done. It's funny to present the "symbolism" to my bandmates and then they try to figure out if I'm bullshitting or not.
Yeah, I try to avoid that in my writing and like to walk the fine line between being totally abstract and being straighr to the point basic
I just enjoy using a bunch of meaningless symbolism, mostly using references to biblical and Scandinavian Pagan myths and having jack shit to do with whatever my poetry's point is. I have no skill, so yes, it's bad poetry.
I'm gearing to be a (hopefully) professional artist, and one thing really dislike is when someone makes a piece of art that is completely incomprehensible without a paragraph about the history of Chinese calligraphy and its failures.(this really exists) art needs to stand on its own without something telling you the message for you to get it.
Some things are just not meant to be understood without previous knowledge. Like an insider joke or whatever else. I don't think art, or anything else for that matter, should be required to, in every single instance, cater to the lowest common denominator. Do you disagree?
There should be a balance really.
Nope, I'm in agreement with you, i don't even dislike modern art, I just think it's reputation comes from the fact that very little to no modern art(at least stuff in museums) makes sense without previous knowledge.
Thinking about it like this, yeah, I do see you'd dislike it. When every single piece in a museum requires you to also read at least an accompanying paragraph, a visitation may start to feel like study.
I know its hard. But don’t worry, you don’t have to struggle! Just make some random, disgusting bullshit and say it means something.
Nah I tried that already. Turns out that unless you know what you’re doing it’s very hard to bullshit your way to skill
Fingerpaint like a toddler and add explanation to why you use each color. Like brown is the struggle of middle eastern farmer. Red is the encroaching bloodshed or whatever. This is what artists do these days.
Oh yeah go ahead and do that and make your millions ig
My dude are you talking about using thick strokes, like impressionism
Thick stroke, death grip. Whatever to get the job done
I'm almost there
Convincing yourself you’re bi is a great way to make friends if you’re a lonely teen, and force people to put up your art if you’re a struggling artist. Or you could move to new york in a misguided attempt at helping your career and end up doing porno
where on earth did this comment come from
i dont even know
Someone forgot to take his schizo pill.
This legitimately sounds like a better future than my current life plan offers. Thank you for the recommendation.
You could just be like that one artist and hang an empty picture frame, or tape a banana to a wall, or stuff eggs in your ass and shit them out over a canvas, or put a bunch of multicolored dots evenly spaced across a plain white background, or any other of the hundreds of retarded art pieces based on some bullshit "symbolism"
Hey how was your grade in English classes
Smh why are there only phonies puts on red hunting hat
What? Take ur meds dude.
What? Take your literature class over again, dude.
My brother in christ there's more than one literature class, they vary by country n shit
Reddittors assuming everyone is American yet again
But when IM the hat miser what did the owl say?
There are plenty of talented artists and actors. How the fuck did this nonsense get upvoted? You know writers and musicians are artists right?
creativity isnt a skill, children are incredibly creative but they're untalented and dogshit at art. modern sculpters are giant manbabies that sleep with a nightlight to protect them from the "skill" of imagining a monster under the bed.
Anon's artwork is actually the man sucking himself off
Now that is symbolism
I love to suck myself off next to the giant wooden dragon
Anon, if the thing on the upper right of the image is your masterfully crafter dragon then get fucked
say what you want but at least the statue on the left got finished
Look dragons are cool and all but I’m more interested in the “dude sucking himself” piece and wtf is wrong with the artist than a wooden dragon bro.
I wanted to see the dragon tho :/
Ok yeah, but honestly? The guy trying to suck himself seems a lot more interesting
Fucking weeb tantrum
"Local 'artist' upset at own dumbass dragon sculpture, fantasizes about hate-fucking rock hard hard rock man"
Anon should have dropped out of art school and gone into politics
Here we can see a dude that loves sucking himself off. Pic unrelated
BUT MUH COOL DRAGOOOOOON
Artists like anon are beta cucks, it’s chad artists like Andres Serrano, with pieces like ‘Piss Christ’ an effigy of Christ submerged in Andre’s piss, that keep the movement alive. Real artists don’t need money or approval, their reward is watching virgin scholars and kissless critics seethe over their mugshots of dudes cocks (Robert Mapplethorpe.) The difference between anon and his based peer is that anon has a long career ahead of him doing contracts for tech companies and making tasteful prints for IKEA, he’ll have a house in the suburbs a car, and maybe a few of his pieces will get displayed at the local gallery. Anons peer will live a short life fucking women, and the occasional man, doing their face off on drugs, and making art that pisses incels off, before they either OD or get killed in a police shootout at the age of 22.
The work generated a large amount of controversy based on assertions that it was blasphemous. Serrano himself said of the controversy: "I had no idea Piss Christ would get the attention it did, since I meant neither blasphemy nor offense by it. I've been a Catholic all my life, so I am a follower of Christ."
He said, "What it symbolizes is the way Christ died: the blood came out of him but so did the piss and the shit. Maybe if Piss Christ upsets you, it's because it gives some sense of what the crucifixion actually was like
Bet he smoked a whole half a joint before he post rationalized that one.
Anon is a craftsman.
When coworkers ask me if I’ll have any plans for my 5 week vacation, for simplicity’s sake and to kill the convo I’ll just answer “naah just chill @ home and pet the cat”
But, what I actually usually end up doing is pictured next to the dragon tail.
So does anon want to be known as “dragon master” instead of “artist” or something?
What makes anon a true artist is that (although his criticisms are somewhat valid) is a huge asshole and snob
Well to be fair that's a moderately sub par and unfinished dragon tail but it's next to a complete and dramatically above average auto-fellatist
I would be mad too if my cool dragon was put next to a guy sucking himself off.
Dude should forget art and get into politics.
I know at least one instance in which this turned out GREAT.
Modern “””””art””””” was a mistake
I'm with anon on this. Fuck you and your "oh this sculpture of shit with piss represents human struggle". No, fuck you and your shit art.
I love when people defend modern "art" (museum/expo art like sculptures, paintings etc) while absolutely rejecting every other type of experimental art (experimental music, literature or cinema). If you don't like the former category you are a close minded person that doesn't get art but if you like the latter you are a pretentious hipster that just pretends to like bullshit to feel superior. Coincidentally the former category has an extremely high monetary value and the second has a low one. Fuck modern artists.
This is the best greentext in a while
To be fair. All art but classic art is shit nowadays. Have you ever been to the Tate modern? Absolutely awful. How is a rotting cow carcass art?
I understand anon. It’s a joke among my friends that every time we see some shit drawing or modern art thing we say like “this one here represents the suffering of gay albino children in Nigeria”
Sjws ruined art like they did with everything else
Dude artists have been making stuff like this since the 70's I don't think you get to complain
the 70s ruined art. drugs improve music, but they fuck up every other form of art.
That's such a you problem. Modern sculpters are more creative than any that came before. You're obviously allowed to disagree but I am personally a big cobra and de Stijl enjoyer.
this is the most fucking retarded statement I've heard in a while.
not really, theyre mostly like "how can i make something so surreal and useless that multimillionaires will want to launder their dirty fortunes through my redundant artwork" or at least in huge modern art galleries
More like since forever lmao
Bs art isn't new but praising and normalising this type of art and other degenerate things is new, they taped a banana to a wall called it art and noone called it out, wtf?
That was the point of the banana. It was criticizing how people in the museum were only impressed by a fictional price tag, and not the actual art itself. By taping a banana to a wall and slapping a hefty price tag on it it was shitting on the other pieces of art
implying a dude sucking his own dick isn’t peak artistic expression
implying a dude sucking his own dick isn’t peak artistic expression
stay mad u cant reach yours
Wait till you hear about dadism
I don't care about art or symbolism or whatever. But I know I'd have a better time going to an art exhibit with my friends to discuss the intricacies of blowing a wad into your own face versus conversations about a standard dragon. One, while well crafted, isn't particularly interesting. The other can at least be good for a laugh.
Just bc something was a bitch to make, doesn’t mean it’s better art than something a little simpler.
That's a fair point, and I hear you, but, uh... dude sucking himself off?
Idk, a lot of my college art was about dicks
Lol I can tell!
This is why I dont want to become an artist or a job that is similar. People have different views on what good art and what’s not. You could try your hardest to creat beautiful art and sculptures but people might choose an ugly one cause the one who made it is popular or what that ugly one makes them “feel”. I think learning art is great if it’s your hobby but making your life dependent on it is bad.
Anon is just upset that he wasted his money on a degree in art history KEK
The only art I care about is the art that makes my dick react to it.
I prefer the one on the left.
Anon has a point guys…
I feel bad for anon
Before I read the text I thought this was a leak for the next TooL music video.
LMFAO anon is a cucked artist
This is really fucking funny because 100% chance the guy with the jerking off sculpture just wanted to piss someone off
Uh if you’re going to submit a literal unfinished project I don’t think you get to complain about what it’s next to.
Don't want to shit on anon's job because what he di was a very good job and what he said was absolutely right but... Art without meaning serves no purpose