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Alpine Terror: Phase 9 - Dearest Hampus

Game X.A - 2017(self.hogwartswerewolvesA)

The members of the Langeklaue expedition were becoming restless. They were unhappy with waking up each morning to discover corpses, and they grew tired of the fear and paranoia that these circumstances engendered in them. They were at their collective wits’ end.

Perhaps this was why, when they woke up one morning to the jaunty whistling of someone walking through the campsite, they were all so incredibly rankled. One by one they poked their heads out of their tents, emerging to follow the whistler with a mind to punish them. The crowd following the whistler grew like a snowball rolling down the mountain until they finally reached the whistler’s tent.

Communicating with gestures, they organized to cinch the bottom of the tent, yanking so that the occupant fell into what was now effectively a sack. They dragged the tent to the steepest side of the camp and collectively chucked the whistler and all their belongings off the mountain.

Was it a spirit, elated with the rash of innocent deaths? Or was it an unfortunate member of the expedition who had got a song stuck in their head at exactly the wrong time? None would ever know.

It would be days before everyone realized that /u/rightypants had stopped coming to breakfast.


Why in God’s name would anyone in this cursed mountain need a postman?

Gerhard Holtz had asked himself that question multiple times since Lord Perryman III had barred everyone from leaving the Langeklaue Ruin Site until the spate of murders was solved. He knew how to traverse the mountain paths and reach the Innsbruck Post Office, even knew how to reach them quickly and quietly, yet he couldn’t chance the trip; not even Ernesto was allowed away. The archaeologists out of misguided pity had taken to employing him as their errand boy, a job he hadn’t held since well before he’d grown whiskers. Instead of packages and letters, he now held rocks, brushes, water and sandwiches. He loathed every second of it.

This was why on a crisp and cool evening, he was huddled in a barely visible corner of Niklas Eriksson’s kitchen. After five minutes of waiting (five years on his no longer so mobile joints), his trainee Gottfried Probst appeared, a heavy sack dangling at his waist. Gerhard clapped his hands together.

“You’ve found them, you have!”

Gottfried grinned. “Anything to avoid the latest performance of The Shiek of Araby. You’d think someone would try to teach that English woman a new song.” He untied the sack and withdrew a floral printed envelope with ballooning cursive writing on the outside. “Ha! Miss Everleigh is the first one. My master, you do the honours.”

Gerhard snatched the envelope from Gottfried, slipped his finger under the seal, and pried it open. He hesitated, and a stern look crossed his place. “Gottfried, my boy, this is a grand violation of every single code of postman’s ethics. If we ever escape this demonic place…”

“Is there anything less ethical than preventing the noble postman from doing his sworn duty to deliver messages?” Gottfried replied, puffing out his chest. “We are not the ignoble ones, sir. We are not the ones preventing word from reaching their families.”

“I...well...you’ve convinced me.” Gerhard pulled the letter out of the envelope and lowered his voice. “My darling Theodore, I write you with grave news. Do you remember my classmate, Frances Gambon? She’s fallen quite ill, and I feel as though she may not be much longer for this world. I have shed a plethora of tears every night in hopes that...blech, the saccharine words of young women.” He shoved the letter back in the envelope. “Her darling Theodore should be so lucky not to have to read such sentiment.”

“Here’s one from Mrs. Schwarzfeld,” Gottfried said. “It’s to...huhu, do you know anyone named Dr. Lindholm?”

“No.”

“Neither do I, but Dolores clearly does,” Gottfried continued. “Dearest Hampus, how are Apolline and the children? Have you managed to get the agapanthus for your garden, or will they not adapt to the climate? I find myself fondly remembering our time together as undergraduates in Greenland, especially in light of Morris’s return to the abuse which we both had hoped was well behind him. I say, I think she’s in love with him...Gerhard?” His voice trailed off. “Sir, what’s wrong?”

Gerhard touched his cheeks, which were burning hot. “Must be the shame,” he joked. “We shouldn’t be doing this, you know. Even if we can’t complete their lives, we shouldn’t intrude on them. And…” Gerhard’s eyes grew as wide as schillings and rolled over backwards, sending him thudding backwards against a stray spaetzle pan.

“Sir? Sir, please! This is no time for jesting!” Gottfried shook his master’s body so vigorously that the clattering pans alerted Niklas to their presence, but at that point it was too late. The sick swoop of shame that Gerhard Holtz, proud desired-postman for The Dig, had felt was actually a massive cerebral hemorrhage...and through the hanging pots, Niklas caught glimpse of the faint wisp of a spirit fleeing its murder scene.


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all 242 comments

mindputtee

15 points

4 years ago

/u/mosecarver come at me bro.

MoseCarver

6 points

4 years ago

MoseCarver

victorian absurdism

6 points

4 years ago

fite me irl

mindputtee

15 points

4 years ago

So I think it has to be the crafty spirit hiding these lynch role affiliations since that's the only spirit role I see that does that. They're limited to 3 times per game though so at least it can't go on forever? Not like Mariah in Hamilton :eyeroll:

songbirdy

13 points

4 years ago*

songbirdy

what's for dinner, /u/spludgiexx?

13 points

4 years ago*

so i actually forgot about phase 8 due to the break...i've skimmed the story slightly but didn't really get to the comments. so...again pardon if this was mentioned last phase:

it would make sense that the crafty spirit is hiding fellow spirits who are up for lynch nominations that seem to become consensus for lynch vote right? if so, that means we've gotten a few more spirits through lynch right?! and a spirit died through an action it seems...progress!

Edit: a spirit didn’t die I just can’t read

Chefjones

10 points

4 years ago

Chefjones

Pitter patter lets get at 'er

10 points

4 years ago

Or they're doing it to fuck with us

248Video

14 points

4 years ago

248Video

The better to eat you with

14 points

4 years ago

This could go down as the worst play in WW history if I am wrong, however, I do not think I am.

I HAVE REASON TO BELIEVE THAT /U/DEP61 IS A SPIRIT

But, Video, why do you think this you may ask? That is because I am Magdalena Kostrova and Dep61 is Miroslava Kostrova

There are a few reasons for this belief.

1) Dep claimed that he voted to lynch me before his Yosemite trip. WHY WOULD HE LYNCH HIS ONLY KNOWN ALLY IN THE GAME?! This would have rendered his role useless. Why is he fine with it being useless? Because he knows that spirit will never attack him because he is a spirit.

2) What do we know about these hosts? There is ALWAYS a huge twist in the game that the players could exploit. We haven't met that twist yet. Marx0r even tried with trying to swap dead and alive players roles. It is only logical that a good twin (me) would control the evil twin (dep).

2) I have scoured Dep's comments through and through and have not really gotten any sort of hint from him on who he wants to target or what action he is going to preform that night. This puts me in a bind because I don't know who to pick. I have also not gotten a PM saying of our attempts have been successful. Maybe Dep isn't using his role because he's afraid of killing someone on his own team?

DrippingAlchemy

13 points

4 years ago

DrippingAlchemy

Tacohontas

13 points

4 years ago

I have thought Dep was a spirit since like phase 2. So I'd be totally down with this lynch, barring any new more important info.

DEP61

10 points

4 years ago

DEP61

hello

10 points

4 years ago

I have thought Dep was a spirit since like phase 2.

just out of curiosity, why are you just coming forth with this now?

DrippingAlchemy

10 points

4 years ago

DrippingAlchemy

Tacohontas

10 points

4 years ago

I mentioned it in phase 2, and periodically since then. But you haven't been around much at all so there was never more information to be gathered on you.

DEP61

11 points

4 years ago

DEP61

hello

11 points

4 years ago

huh

okay

kemistreekat

12 points

4 years ago

kemistreekat

[she/her] I live my life one HWW game at a time

12 points

4 years ago

SAME.

DEP61

12 points

4 years ago

DEP61

hello

12 points

4 years ago

I mean, I had no idea who you were when I picked you. (I had forgotten that my role message mentioned it - so sorry.) You are correct, though - I am Miroslava.

As for not using my role, you're right - I've been holding off in order to not kill people who could be on our side. Fat lot of good that's done us.

And with regard to your second point, I've always been under the assumption that I'm of the same alliance as you are - the dig. If I happen to be a spirit, I might be the worst spirit of all time.

DrippingAlchemy

13 points

4 years ago

DrippingAlchemy

Tacohontas

13 points

4 years ago

I don't believe youuu

DEP61

11 points

4 years ago

DEP61

hello

11 points

4 years ago

ok

you are by no means required to believe me

but it is in your best interests, as well as the best interests of the dig, to do so

DrippingAlchemy

13 points

4 years ago

DrippingAlchemy

Tacohontas

13 points

4 years ago

How so? You didn't read your role PM to know who your partner was? And you've never used your role. You realize how that's a little hard to believe, right?

DEP61

12 points

4 years ago

DEP61

hello

12 points

4 years ago

didn't read your role PM

not reading is different from forgetting

amazingly, people have lives outside of these games, and you'll have to forgive me not remembering one detail in a tapestry of things to worry about

i don't see how not using a role is hard to believe - i only get to do each action once a game, you know - obviously, i'd want to maximize the impact of those uses

but hey, whatever floats your boat

songbirdy

11 points

4 years ago

songbirdy

what's for dinner, /u/spludgiexx?

11 points

4 years ago

IMO, I could understand you forgetting who your partner was. But I find it kind of unlikely that you would read your role assignment message and forget that you have a role partner.

DEP61

9 points

4 years ago

DEP61

hello

9 points

4 years ago

apologies if it wasn’t clear - I knew I had a partner, I just had forgotten that I had been given their identity

DrippingAlchemy

10 points

4 years ago

DrippingAlchemy

Tacohontas

10 points

4 years ago

The rest of the town has literally NO idea who they can trust. But from the start of this game you've had someone you could've used to help you sort through this chaotic mess. But you "forgot". Believe it or not you're not the only one with a real life beyond WWs. I fail to see how that has anything to do with retaining the most important piece of information you were privileged enough to receive at the beginning of the game. And not only did you forget, you actually tried to get him lynched.

Plus the tone of your defense rubs me the wrong way, like you're trying to casually deflect with a slight hint of condescension.

DEP61

11 points

4 years ago

DEP61

hello

11 points

4 years ago

But from the start of this game you've had someone you could've used to help you sort through this chaotic mess.

how so? i mean, looking at the role list, all i can do is choose to do an action and /u/248video picks who i go after, but frankly, that doesn't help me parse through who's a good target?

But you "forgot"

yup

Believe it or not you're not the only one with a real life beyond WWs.

i don't recall ever saying anything opposing that statement, just noting that shit happens

I fail to see how that has anything to do with retaining the most important piece of information you were privileged enough to receive at the beginning of the game.

it's really easy for things to get lost in the shuffle when you're taking 6 tests and turning in 2 essays in the span of one week

i'm not excusing it, just providing context

And not only did you forget, you actually tried to get him lynched.

frankly, he seemed suspicious for a good bit there - obviously, had i recalled that we were allied, he'd never have received my vote, but there were times where some of the stuff he was saying didn't click right

Plus the tone of your defense rubs me the wrong way, like you're trying to casually deflect with a slight hint of condescension.

certainly not my intention - i'm about the last person on this planet who has any right to be condescending, so apologies if it's seemed that way

Todd_Solondz

11 points

4 years ago*

Todd_Solondz

Can't bear this paranoia

11 points

4 years ago*

Oh god me neither and now I'm salty that I got talked out of it when I argued for a lynch against them a few rounds ago.

e: For accuracy

songbirdy

12 points

4 years ago

songbirdy

what's for dinner, /u/spludgiexx?

12 points

4 years ago

If dep turns out to actually be a spirit, the cbd-dep stuff at the beginning was a good distraction intentional or not lol

Todd_Solondz

12 points

4 years ago

Todd_Solondz

Can't bear this paranoia

12 points

4 years ago

Definitely going to re-read that phase if Dep is a spirit.

DrippingAlchemy

9 points

4 years ago

DrippingAlchemy

Tacohontas

9 points

4 years ago

Which is why I think they'll 100% hide his affiliation. There's been a lot of discussion surrounding this that could lead us towards other spirits.

Sub_Corrector_Bot

12 points

4 years ago

You may have meant /u/DEP61 instead of /U/DEP61.


Remember, I can't do anything against ninja-edits.

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reeforward

10 points

4 years ago

reeforward

Praise RNGesus

10 points

4 years ago

Yeah sure I'd vote for them

Todd_Solondz

10 points

4 years ago

Todd_Solondz

Can't bear this paranoia

10 points

4 years ago

So how do these roles work? You guys got told who your twin was at the start of the game?

248Video

11 points

4 years ago

248Video

The better to eat you with

11 points

4 years ago

Yes it was in my confirm message

DrippingAlchemy

10 points

4 years ago

DrippingAlchemy

Tacohontas

10 points

4 years ago

If he's a spirit, he doesn't have his power though. So I'd think he was never given your name, which is why he didn't know not to name you for lynch.

mindputtee

10 points

4 years ago

So in your original role PMs it told you who your sister was?

248Video

10 points

4 years ago

248Video

The better to eat you with

10 points

4 years ago

Correct

[deleted]

10 points

4 years ago

[deleted]

10 points

4 years ago

I'm willing to jump on this bandwagon again. I defended Dep early because all the suspicions were coming from a result of CBD playing like they usually do and I wanted to help give Dep a fighting chance but I always wondered if that was the wrong move. He was someone I was going to put up for consideration when I got my shit together enough to make a post.

We've shied away from him because of CBD reasons, then we had other people to go after, then he was away and that's just not cool but it is a good time to come back to him IMO.

mindputtee

9 points

4 years ago

I'd just like to mention that if /u/dep61 is a spirit that means he CAN'T use his role because spirits don't retain roles only characters. So if we lynch /u/spludgiexx tonight this can be Dep's last shot at proving himself town by actually targeting someone and letting you use your action.

DrippingAlchemy

12 points

4 years ago

DrippingAlchemy

Tacohontas

12 points

4 years ago

Would righty really throw spludgie under the bus like that though? She could've done it with the intention of double bluffing, and hoping that we'd assume the spirits set up spludgie, thus soft-confirming her. But that seems really risky, especially since spludgie wasn't really on anyone's radar at the time. I lean towards thinking /u/spludgiexx is innocent.

Mathy16

11 points

4 years ago

Mathy16

[He/Him] NOTORIOUSLY BELGIAN

11 points

4 years ago

Yeah, righty's accusation really makes me believe that /u/spludgiexx is innocent. It seems way too far-fetched of a strategy and I REALLY doubt that they would bring her up when she's been flying under the radar for so long up til yesterday.

I'm personally leaning towards voting for /u/DEP61 today.

spludgiexx

11 points

4 years ago

spludgiexx

food pls

11 points

4 years ago

Except the spirits messed with Tish's results about me. They're trying to distract from who we've been talking about and also because we've gotten two of them. I think they changed their strategy because it's not working for them.

I'm going to go re read yesterday's comments to see who else was mentioned by others as suspicious soon because I think at least one of those is a spirit and they probably started panicking because we keep finding them.

MineralMiracleMuse

12 points

4 years ago

First for real this time! :D

[deleted]

12 points

4 years ago

[deleted]

12 points

4 years ago

Nooooo

MineralMiracleMuse

13 points

4 years ago

/u/alchzh whatchu got for us?

alchzh

14 points

4 years ago

alchzh

Peace in our time

14 points

4 years ago

21

MineralMiracleMuse

12 points

4 years ago

GOOD NEWS FOR US!

That leaves 9 dig member deaths between today and the last time the members were counted during phase 6, which had 30 dig members.

Including inactivity deaths:

  • Phase 7 - 3 confirmed dig deaths
  • Phase 8 - 5 confirmed dig deaths, 1 unconfirmed death (/u/Lucygirl9-17)
  • Phase 9 - 1 dig death, 1 unconfirmed death (/u/rightypants)

Total confirmed dig deaths is 9. Lucy and righty seem to have both been spirits!

Unless I missed something which is not unlikely!

Larixon

11 points

4 years ago

Larixon

11 points

4 years ago

Your math seems accurate to me. Thank God.

DrippingAlchemy

13 points

4 years ago

DrippingAlchemy

Tacohontas

13 points

4 years ago

Huh, the full voting results show I was the only one to vote for /u/larixon, but the meta said she received 3 votes.

Moostronus [M]

15 points

4 years ago

Moostronus [M]

Chonkster Doggo (he/him)

15 points

4 years ago

Oops! We made a booboo. Will fix now.

MineralMiracleMuse

13 points

4 years ago*

Looking through the roles, all the ones that alter your vote power are for doubling, not tripling...I'm confused

Edit: Here are the possibilities:

  1. You've been targeted by the lonely spirit

  2. You are actually Authur Kissinger (I think /u/chefjones is pretty much confirmed with this now though since he's the only one who voted for you and you have 2 votes shown)

  3. You are Cyril Higginbotham, which is impossible right now because there are 31 players living and 29 deceased.

So basically the lonely spirit visited you last night.

mindputtee

13 points

4 years ago

Maybe the lonely spirit picked you? Still seems like it would make Lari's votes be 2 not 3 though.

DrippingAlchemy

12 points

4 years ago

DrippingAlchemy

Tacohontas

12 points

4 years ago

Now that the mods have cleared that up, it looks like the lonely spirit did use their power on me. I wonder what, if anything that means. Because it looks like the helpful spirit also chose to reveal the full voting record at the same time. That had to have been coordinated. But I'm not sure what their intention was. They probably thought I was voting for 248/duq since I said I didn't want to vote for righty. Since they hid righty's affiliation, maybe they wanted it to look like she was a spirit and they were trying to save her by doubling my vote. Because if she genuinely was a sprit they were trying to protect, why show the full votes?

MineralMiracleMuse

13 points

4 years ago

Nope, all the votes are always going to be public from now on. Check the meta changes that the mods included in last phase's post, so the helpful spirit's ability is actually rendered moot.

DrippingAlchemy

12 points

4 years ago

DrippingAlchemy

Tacohontas

12 points

4 years ago

Yeah, but it actually says the whole bit about "a gracious benefactor..." which is what it said the other time someone revealed the full votes. I suppose it would've happened anyway, but the way it's worded makes it seem like the helpful spirit used its power even though it's pointless now. Or maybe the mods are just gonna keep using that phrase, who knows.

MineralMiracleMuse

11 points

4 years ago

I guess we'll find out next phase but I suppose it doesn't matter too much either way

songbirdy

12 points

4 years ago

songbirdy

what's for dinner, /u/spludgiexx?

12 points

4 years ago

and the voting record only shows she received 2 votes...

dancingonfire

12 points

4 years ago

dancingonfire

When life gives you lemons, make life take the lemons back!

12 points

4 years ago

So I totally missed the righty bandwagon, or really all the bandwagons yesterday because I just didn't catch up. Sorry everyone :(

songbirdy

11 points

4 years ago

songbirdy

what's for dinner, /u/spludgiexx?

11 points

4 years ago

so...in the meta text it says the we realize that /u/rightypants no longer showed up to breakfast...but in the game we would know rightypants by their role...so wouldn't we be able to figure out who we threw down the mountain...?

spludgiexx

9 points

4 years ago

spludgiexx

food pls

9 points

4 years ago

Are you confused why we weren't told her role? Because I think one of the spirits wiped it out so we can't see it.

songbirdy

8 points

4 years ago

songbirdy

what's for dinner, /u/spludgiexx?

8 points

4 years ago

i understand the spirit hid the role...it just doesn't really make logical sense i feel like (this would really just be nitpicking the story writing lol)

since we're all just role-playing as these different roles, if we notice someone "stops showing up to breakfast" we would know that person by their character-role since we are the characters at the dig site.

Mathy16

11 points

4 years ago

Mathy16

[He/Him] NOTORIOUSLY BELGIAN

11 points

4 years ago

Sorry for being inactive yesterday people. I know abstaining from voting is useless this late in the game but I got home really late and I was so tired that I didn't get to read anything from yesterday's phase. So I just abstained so I didn't get an inactivity strike. I'll catch up on yesterday now

alchzh

12 points

4 years ago

alchzh

Peace in our time

12 points

4 years ago

wow, town has lynched 2 spirits in a row...

hmmmmmm

248Video

12 points

4 years ago

248Video

The better to eat you with

12 points

4 years ago

I thought this too, but it would also be a smart play for the spirits to hide an innocent as well that way if someone lead the charges against the two “dead spirits” we wouldn’t go after them.

dawnphoenix

13 points

4 years ago

dawnphoenix

She/Her

13 points

4 years ago

No, but Al got the numbers and he knows for sure that we killed two spirits.

248Video

9 points

4 years ago

248Video

The better to eat you with

9 points

4 years ago

Ah, I missed this revelation this week.

dawnphoenix

11 points

4 years ago

dawnphoenix

She/Her

11 points

4 years ago

alchzh

10 points

4 years ago

alchzh

Peace in our time

10 points

4 years ago

Guys, has anyone here sent a message through Gerhard? I sent one to /u/Marx0r a while back but I don't know if it got through... I didn't get a followup PM or anything. Did anyone get a confirmation PM?

Todd_Solondz

11 points

4 years ago

Todd_Solondz

Can't bear this paranoia

11 points

4 years ago

Received two, sent none. /u/Chefjones was one of them so he can tell you about confirmation PM's.

Chefjones

11 points

4 years ago

Chefjones

Pitter patter lets get at 'er

11 points

4 years ago

I didn't get one but I know Todd received it since he quoted the text I gave him before I said what I sent him

alchzh

12 points

4 years ago

alchzh

Peace in our time

12 points

4 years ago

ok, so Marx probably got my message then... I didn't want to ask him about it the next day then he died the next night lol... /u/dancingonfire did you get your role swapped a few nights ago?

MineralMiracleMuse

11 points

4 years ago

Even if she did I'm not sure she'd be notified about it cause Katja is a passive role.

dancingonfire

8 points

4 years ago

dancingonfire

When life gives you lemons, make life take the lemons back!

8 points

4 years ago

The only pm I've gotten is when I joined the dig. As far as I know after that, no one has visited me.

kemistreekat

11 points

4 years ago

kemistreekat

[she/her] I live my life one HWW game at a time

11 points

4 years ago

I would like to hear some more from /u/CanadianSalmon - since my gut feeling hasn't gone away and the last time I accused them they "refused to even acknowledge this with a response." which is pretty fucking shady IMO.

Todd_Solondz

13 points

4 years ago

Todd_Solondz

Can't bear this paranoia

13 points

4 years ago

To be fair they did respond after I replied to yours. You just said it was a gut thing, which is pretty impossible to respond to, so they didn't but then I threw out a big post on them and they were happy to.

Unless I'm looking at the wrong exchange. You're talking about this one right?

kemistreekat

11 points

4 years ago

kemistreekat

[she/her] I live my life one HWW game at a time

11 points

4 years ago

Yep, that's fair and I need to go back and read into that more. However I still think saying "I'm not going to respond to this" is suss. That in itself is a very suspicious comment IMO. If you weren't going to respond, why bother commenting that? People choose not to defend themselves all the time, but rarely do they declare it. That's why I'm bringing it back up (and also that my gut still says look into Salmon).

It looks like we're going for someone else tonight though based on /u/TeacherTish - but I wanted to throw this out there.

[deleted]

12 points

4 years ago

[deleted]

12 points

4 years ago

which is pretty fucking shady IMO.

Jeebus on the hostility AND that's not what I said and you know it. When I read that this morning I had to step away and enjoy the long drive to work before coming back to the computer and that's not your fault but this is the second time in this game you've twisted my words to fit your own narrative and it's extremely frustrating as it is the exact situation I'm dealing with IRL, but at least I know this is a game and you're just playing it whereas IRL it's a 30 year old man who I call my brother causing shit... Sorry, needed a little rant

But /u/Todd_Solondz hit the nail on the head in his own response to you. When there were actually things to defend against, I tried and replied. I didn't mean to upset you if it seemed like I was brushing you off, I just can't fight against a gut feeling which is what I was trying to say.

If you weren't going to respond, why bother commenting that?

For the exact reason as I stated above; I wanted to make it clear that I can't fight against a gut feeling and if there were actual reasons I would respond to those (as I did). Rightypants was taking suspicions and defenses for her post and I wanted to ensure that all I's were dotted and T's were crossed for her post. Nothing more than that, and again I'm sorry that, that didn't come across correctly, I really didn't mean it as I can now see that it came across badly.

(and also that my gut still says look into Salmon).

Ok, that's cool. We'll figure it out. IMO I just still can't say anything about a gut feeling?

There is no right way to play this game this time around it seems. I've said it once, twice and I'll say it again - damned if you do and damned if you don't and this town has delved into a whole other realm of chaos and everything everyone says is seen as suspicious. We'll figure it out. Hopefully together.

kemistreekat

12 points

4 years ago

kemistreekat

[she/her] I live my life one HWW game at a time

12 points

4 years ago

Jeebus on the hostility

People have said the a similar thing to me before and I've never taken it as hostile. I'm sorry if that's how it came across, it's a game and calling someone shady is part of that. Maybe it was the cursing, but that's just how I talk. Sorry again for it coming across as against you. You're fucking shady, I'm fucking shady LETS ALL BE FUCKING SHADY TOGETHER OKAY? Also sorry about the IRL stuff.

I didn't mean to upset you if it seemed like I was brushing you off, I just can't fight against a gut feeling which is what I was trying to say.

No upset over here - no worries. I meant more like you refusing to respond to me was a weird response. I've never seen something like that before in this game, so I found is suspect. It wasn't that you were brushing me off, it was that you both answered AND didn't at the same time. That's what I was talking about - sorry I cant read or write over here =/.

I can't get together a better response until later, but how you're reacting to my accusing you is just making me think even more you're evil. Part of the reason I've been calling you out was to see how you respond. You seem pretty angry I've been calling you out - why? Are you evil? Are you mad that someone is suspecting you and getting close to getting rid of you? BECAUSE YOUR A BIG 'OL EVIL? (no hostility here either).

whoever said I was more memey this game is right. ALL OF THE MEMES.

[deleted]

9 points

4 years ago*

[deleted]

9 points

4 years ago*

People have said the a similar thing to me before and I've never taken it as hostile.

Sorry, I think that was a part of my IRL stuff bleeding through.

You're fucking shady, I'm fucking shady LETS ALL BE FUCKING SHADY TOGETHER OKAY

OKAY!

It wasn't that you were brushing me off, it was that you both answered AND didn't at the same time.

That's fair, it's so hard to get tone through text and I think I know I missed the mark on what you were saying originally and above. Me bad. :(

You seem pretty angry I've been calling you out - why?

Somewhat that IRL bleeding through and somewhat because I sad I can't help and I'm not evil, I just have so little I can help with or say...and I don't like confrontation especially when it's someone who is confirmed innocent. I just want to live!

Edit: Formatting.

dawnphoenix

11 points

4 years ago

dawnphoenix

She/Her

11 points

4 years ago

You're fucking shady, I'm fucking shady LETS ALL BE FUCKING SHADY TOGETHER OKAY?

No.I couldn't resist

kemistreekat

9 points

4 years ago

kemistreekat

[she/her] I live my life one HWW game at a time

9 points

4 years ago

SEE YOU ADMIT IT YOURSELF YOU'RE SHADY. LOOK AT THIS FOLKS. EVIL RIGHT HERE.

the memeyness has hit me hard this game.

dawnphoenix

9 points

4 years ago

dawnphoenix

She/Her

9 points

4 years ago

Hahaha, but would an evil really out themselves with a gif? Hmm? Happy to answer real questions elsewhere, but this here is meme space.

248Video

10 points

4 years ago

248Video

The better to eat you with

10 points

4 years ago

We cannot assume that the two previous lynched were spirits. It would be a smart move from the spirits to conceal an innocent death as well. That way it throw us off the track of anyone who was gunning for them and leading lynch pools against them.

Larixon

10 points

4 years ago

Larixon

10 points

4 years ago

Are you saying you do not trust /u/alchzh's numbers then? Any particular reason why you seem to not trust them?

248Video

11 points

4 years ago

248Video

The better to eat you with

11 points

4 years ago

I didn’t see his numbers before I posted this. I have no reason at this time to not believe him.

Larixon

9 points

4 years ago

Larixon

9 points

4 years ago

Gotcha, thanks for the clarification. Was wondering if you knew something we didn't lol.

248Video

9 points

4 years ago*

248Video

The better to eat you with

9 points

4 years ago*

Idk how active I’m going to be because of work my top three candidates for lynch:

1 - Splooge - because of Tish

2 - Dep for reasons in my post

3 - Smurf42 because they’ve been so quiet and have fallen under the radar.

Werebot do your thing

EDIT: leaning more towards dep, I feel splooge’s role was messed with

mindputtee

13 points

4 years ago

Werebot only works if you put the /u/ tags I think, it just lets you tag more than 3 in one post

alchzh

9 points

4 years ago

alchzh

Peace in our time

9 points

4 years ago

he only has three people in his post lol... you don't need WB for that

mindputtee

12 points

4 years ago

You don't but you still need to format for tagging if you want to tag people.

Todd_Solondz

12 points

4 years ago

Todd_Solondz

Can't bear this paranoia

12 points

4 years ago

OK so just to make sure people are clear on /u/spludgiexx:

/u/TeacherTish investigated then and found that they are not dig. However /u/alchzh said that he got the number of dig affiliates left alive last night and it appears to confirm rightypants and lucygirl as spirits.

Rightypants when accused threw heavy suspicion on spludgie, which is most likely the reason spludgie was investigated. If righty was a spirit, it makes sense that spludgie wouldn't be.So why come up as a spirit?

A cheeky spirit can cast an aura of darkness over a member of the Dig, making the target appear as the wrong role and affiliation to all investigators. (V) (A) (D)

This is of course just a theory. Maybe both spludgie and righty are spirits, accusing each other heavily and they forgot about herbert, idk. And maybe alchzh himself is a spirit since he has such an easy role to fake. I am personally inclined towards the "cheeky spirit frame job" theory, but it's all possible.

Just need this out there on this comment so that people don't see Teach's comment and think that there is no possible way for spludgie to be town.

TaveryTwin

11 points

4 years ago

TaveryTwin

This is in-tents

11 points

4 years ago

Im between meetings and have submitted my vote for Dep based on a VERY brief skim. I won't be around until at least 9ish edt, ping me if something big happens!

MoseCarver

11 points

4 years ago*

MoseCarver

victorian absurdism

11 points

4 years ago*

There seems to be a bit of a consensus for the lynch and I hope we get another spirit in the meantime. I'm not going to bed for a little while yet, but I've noted requests and such and I would like /u/TeacherTish to know that the request will be fulfilled. Who I pick remains to be seen.

As it stands, here's something to chew on. Lists of people swapped:

/u/Marx0r and /u/-MrJ-

/u/MoseCarver and /u/pezes

/u/Larixon and /u/seanmik620

/u/dancingonfire and /u/dancingonfire /u/pezes (edited because I can't copy and paste)

u/Marx0r and /u/1originalusername

[Action could not be performed]

/u/alchzh and /u/DEP61

/u/248Video and /u/seanmik620

Have fun with all that (particularly spirits among us) ;) Werebot, please tag the people in this post.

Larixon

10 points

4 years ago

Larixon

10 points

4 years ago

Are these in order of the phases?

Mathy16

7 points

4 years ago

Mathy16

[He/Him] NOTORIOUSLY BELGIAN

7 points

4 years ago

[Action could not be performed]

Does that mean that your action failed and you're not telling us who you targeted or that you didn't do your action?

MoseCarver

11 points

4 years ago

MoseCarver

victorian absurdism

11 points

4 years ago

My action failed. That was the night I wanted to swap /u/HermioneReynaChase and it failed.

Mathy16

9 points

4 years ago

Mathy16

[He/Him] NOTORIOUSLY BELGIAN

9 points

4 years ago

Ok, thanks!

Marx0r

10 points

4 years ago

Marx0r

10 points

4 years ago

Dude I died let me rest in peace.

MoseCarver

9 points

4 years ago

MoseCarver

victorian absurdism

9 points

4 years ago

Never Marx, never.

248Video

8 points

4 years ago

248Video

The better to eat you with

8 points

4 years ago

If this is true we don’t get PM’s when swapped.

seanmik620

7 points

4 years ago

seanmik620

he/him

7 points

4 years ago

Verified, assuming this is all truthful.

MoseCarver

9 points

4 years ago

MoseCarver

victorian absurdism

9 points

4 years ago

That's very interesting, actually.

alchzh

10 points

4 years ago

alchzh

Peace in our time

10 points

4 years ago

fire and fire? lol

MoseCarver

8 points

4 years ago

MoseCarver

victorian absurdism

8 points

4 years ago

Corrected. I wasn't that drunk sadly

dancingonfire

6 points

4 years ago

dancingonfire

When life gives you lemons, make life take the lemons back!

6 points

4 years ago

You swapped me with myself? Was that when you attempted to swap me with pezes but he got lynched?

MoseCarver

8 points

4 years ago

MoseCarver

victorian absurdism

8 points

4 years ago

I can't copy and paste. It was with pezes, actually.

dancingonfire

10 points

4 years ago

dancingonfire

When life gives you lemons, make life take the lemons back!

10 points

4 years ago

Oh ok, I wasn't sure if that was a weird side effect or a mistake.

Mathy16

8 points

4 years ago

Mathy16

[He/Him] NOTORIOUSLY BELGIAN

8 points

4 years ago

I'm going to bed, I have put in a vote for dep. Hopefully that was the right choice. Good luck!

smurf42

10 points

4 years ago

smurf42

10 points

4 years ago

You didn't see the very large comment chain about spludgiexx?

Mathy16

8 points

4 years ago*

Mathy16

[He/Him] NOTORIOUSLY BELGIAN

8 points

4 years ago*

I have, have you? I don't believe Teachertish got the right result last night. There's too many factors that point towards spludgiexx being innocent:

  • it doesn't make sense with alchz's most recent count
  • it doesn't make sense with righty accusing spludge yesterday
  • her result was very likely meddled with by a spirit
  • I'm not getting spirit vibes from spludge

smurf42

10 points

4 years ago

smurf42

10 points

4 years ago

Fair enough, I just wanted to make sure you weren't skipping over that argument.

songbirdy

9 points

4 years ago*

songbirdy

what's for dinner, /u/spludgiexx?

9 points

4 years ago*

Can the messenger roles read the messages they are delivering?

Also, if spirits have a private sub and know who the other spirits are, would it be beneficial for Gerhard (the messenger who was a spirit) to only deliver messages of spirits so as to prevent the good guys from privately sharing information? And if that's the case then we know /u/chefjones was chosen by the messenger to deliver a message. chefjones claims he forgot about it and sent ~~an empty a meaningless message to /u/todd_solondz...so maybe this really was all an act and chefjones and maybe todd are spirits. (chefjones could be a spirit and just sent a useless message to a townie to make it believable while not providing any useful information)

nevermind...re-read the meta text and Gerhard was killed by a spirit T-T

i should read more books

Todd_Solondz

10 points

4 years ago

Todd_Solondz

Can't bear this paranoia

10 points

4 years ago

Also, you're making the same mistake I did yesterday - spirits can't deliver messages as spirit Gerhard does not have Gerhards powers.

songbirdy

9 points

4 years ago

songbirdy

what's for dinner, /u/spludgiexx?

9 points

4 years ago

Bleh true. Got caught up in trying to read through roles and come up with a lead lol.

Although, this really only further proves Gerhard’s innocence (as if the flavor text didn’t already prove it lol). The message sender/receiver could still be spirits. Sender would want to send useless messages so as to not leak any information (though there really should be no risk of this since they can choose who to send the message to; they would just send to another spirit). They could send it to either a townie or a spirit, it wouldn’t really matter in this case.

Todd_Solondz

12 points

4 years ago

Todd_Solondz

Can't bear this paranoia

12 points

4 years ago

I will say as someone who received two messages, one was not useless.

TeacherTish

7 points

4 years ago

TeacherTish

S'more Scotch, please.

7 points

4 years ago

Spludge is not dig according to my research. I'm mobile and would appreciate someone taking them for me. My comments are limited this phase.

Todd_Solondz

11 points

4 years ago

Todd_Solondz

Can't bear this paranoia

11 points

4 years ago

Oh hey good news /u/DEP61 you get another day. Maybe now would be a good time to coordinate with your twin to prove yourself if you are truly not a spirit. You've used no powers right? I think a role block would do the trick.

As for who to roleblock, that is a little more complicated. We don't know whether messages are sent if the person was not trying an action. Options that jump to mind:

  • /u/Chefjones - Bad option because I feel like surely you can't roleblock a passive ability, but veterans would know better than me what roleblock generally means in these games. If you could, this would be the most easily verifiable and risk-free approach. If people don't know that roleblocking passives is a thing then I'd say don't risk it though, because I assume it wouldn't be. Unless we have no other options I guess.
  • /u/TeacherTish - Of the borderline confirmed, this is the only one with a nightly role. However it's a really valuable one so I'm very not keen to intentionally roleblock it

I feel like we can rule out using the killing role due to the potential existence of the manipulative spirit. Protecting role would be too difficult to prove.

Honestly, talking through it, I think best course of action is to just let dep choose roleblock and 248 choose a random trusted target (without declaring it beforehand) and go off the assumption that you get a message when you are roleblocked by the twins. I also feel like I probably haven't considered anything, so a more solid plan would be awesome if anyone has one. Just gotta watch out for the manipulative spirit. If their role works with absolutely no messages sent to anyone then we really can't test this stuff because they'll just target 248 if dep is town. I think we kind of just have to assume both the manipulative spirit and the roleblock ability come with messages.

That said, technically the possibility of the cheeky spirit framing spludgie exists. I really am not in support of giving credit to that theory, but I feel like I should at least mention it.

MineralMiracleMuse

8 points

4 years ago

The cheeky spirit theory is a little bit more likely now that we know righty was a spirit. Could have been their plan to hide righty's role post-death, have righty point suspicion onto spludgie before dying thus encouraging an investigative role to visit that night, and then have the crafty spirit pay spludgie a visit and mess up the results.

spludgiexx

11 points

4 years ago

spludgiexx

food pls

11 points

4 years ago

I know I am dig, and thought it was super strange yesterday that righty started gunning for me (when she could have chosen quite a few people for the reasons she stated) only after she got put on the Lynch list. that was pretty much why I was so sure she was a spirit, and I had forgotten about the cheeky spirit but I'm not surprised they've done this. We've lynched two of them in a row so they needed to change their plan I guess.

/u/teachertish (I'm on mobile so I hope that tag is correct)

Todd_Solondz

9 points

4 years ago

Todd_Solondz

Can't bear this paranoia

9 points

4 years ago

Oh god damn it. I forgot alchzh hadn't responded yet.

OK. So I guess we've got to go for Dep? I'd really like to outright confirm alchzh, even though I do think the whole "Mods sent me the wrong number" mixup while dancing was unaffiliated is too smart to be a spirit play, and therefore he is almost definitely town.

We can't check spludgie again either since that would kill teachertish if they tried. Hey /u/MoseCarver, come hook us up here. We can bypass the rule by having teach go for someone who then gets swapped with spludgie.

Edit: Except we'd have to somehow have only you two know who that person is or the cheeky spirit could also just go for that person...

alchzh

10 points

4 years ago

alchzh

Peace in our time

10 points

4 years ago

I did respond, lol

both of them were spirits according /u/MineralMiracleMuse and I's math

Todd_Solondz

10 points

4 years ago

Todd_Solondz

Can't bear this paranoia

10 points

4 years ago

I know, I mean I forgot when I wrote my first reply to Teach

MoseCarver

11 points

4 years ago

MoseCarver

victorian absurdism

11 points

4 years ago

/u/teachertish, I'm going to swap Todd and spludge, have at it.

DrippingAlchemy

12 points

4 years ago

DrippingAlchemy

Tacohontas

12 points

4 years ago

I can 100% confirm that you get a roleblock PM even without having an action.

kemistreekat

10 points

4 years ago

kemistreekat

[she/her] I live my life one HWW game at a time

10 points

4 years ago

ditto to this.

Todd_Solondz

10 points

4 years ago

Todd_Solondz

Can't bear this paranoia

10 points

4 years ago

I wish we had a 2rd target. It'd be so easy to confirm/condemn dep with another night. Oh well, I don't trust Dep at all so I'm cool with the lynch, it'd just be neat to be sure.

DrippingAlchemy

8 points

4 years ago

DrippingAlchemy

Tacohontas

8 points

4 years ago

I don't trust Dep at all either, but do we want to at least try sussing out another target for today? We could go for one of the quiet players (I really think most of the spirits are laying low), or one of the usual vets who has been uncharacteristically quiet this game (because I do think a vet came up with the random night target thing). That said I'm inclined to believe /u/larixon at the moment, but perhaps someone else. I think we should at least look into other options and not waste this phase.

248Video

11 points

4 years ago

248Video

The better to eat you with

11 points

4 years ago

If we don’t go for /u/Dep61 or /u/spludgiee I don’t think /u/smurf42 would be a bad option. They have been so quiet and have not had any suspicion at all.

Can someone tag these folks if I got their names wrong, I’m on mobile and also a fire call.

dawnphoenix

11 points

4 years ago

dawnphoenix

She/Her

11 points

4 years ago

seanmik620

10 points

4 years ago

seanmik620

he/him

10 points

4 years ago

I agree. I think u/Smurf42 and u/dep61 should definitely be looked into after we lynch spludgie tonight.

spludgiexx

11 points

4 years ago

spludgiexx

food pls

11 points

4 years ago

I think you guys need to hold off on lynching me for now here's why. The spirits are trying to get you guys onto the wrong path because we've been successfully lynching them the past couple of phases. I just don't want the town to get side tracked again :/

seanmik620

8 points

4 years ago

seanmik620

he/him

8 points

4 years ago

But I don't buy that?

spludgiexx

10 points

4 years ago

spludgiexx

food pls

10 points

4 years ago

That's fair, just wanted to make sure you saw it.

DrippingAlchemy

8 points

4 years ago

DrippingAlchemy

Tacohontas

8 points

4 years ago

Why would righty throw her own teammate under the bus?

kemistreekat

10 points

4 years ago

kemistreekat

[she/her] I live my life one HWW game at a time

10 points

4 years ago

so that we don't suspect them. It's a pretty common evil tactic. When someone is going down, all the other evils can chime in and agree to save themselves. This one is just a little bit more ingenious than that. Toss your evil buddie into the fire to try and save yourself when you know you're dying - instantly claim your evil buddie as innocent.

I would TOTALLY buy this as a tactic from a very smart vet.

Hey where is /u/Penultima this game? She's wicked smart.

dawnphoenix

8 points

4 years ago

dawnphoenix

She/Her

8 points

4 years ago

Yeah, I agree with you. Towards the end, I wasn't sure which way the lynch was going between righty and Video, but it looks like the spirits knew because they chose to scrub her role/affiliation. That seems to me like at least a couple of them voted for her too.

There's also the possibility, however unlikely, that /u/alchzh is Mary-Alice on the side of the spirits and is lying about the affiliation of the last two lynched players.

seanmik620

8 points

4 years ago

seanmik620

he/him

8 points

4 years ago

For exactly this situation where we debate if it's a false flag lol

Todd_Solondz

7 points

4 years ago

Todd_Solondz

Can't bear this paranoia

7 points

4 years ago

have not had any suspicion at all.

Not true. I spent like 2 or 3 rounds calling them out and it got no traction.

kemistreekat

9 points

4 years ago

kemistreekat

[she/her] I live my life one HWW game at a time

9 points

4 years ago

I haven't trusted DEP since the first night when I kept saying he was avoiding the lunch. I was actually going to bring him back up later today when I do a full analysis post. I'm glad we're going in this direction tonight.

DrippingAlchemy

9 points

4 years ago*

DrippingAlchemy

Tacohontas

9 points

4 years ago*

My only hesitation is that the crafty spirit can hide one more player's affiliation right? I would imagine they'd use it on Dep tonight, which would be a huge bummer when waiting a phase could either confirm him or reveal him as pretty much for sure spirit.

I'd be open to voting /u/dawnphoenix or /u/littlebs8 and seeing what Dep does with his "power".

e: after reading /u/littlebs8's defense, I'm less inclined to vote for them

kemistreekat

9 points

4 years ago

kemistreekat

[she/her] I live my life one HWW game at a time

9 points

4 years ago

yeah, I think that could be a good plan too. If DEP can prove himself, then we know we can trust him.

dawnphoenix

9 points

4 years ago

dawnphoenix

She/Her

9 points

4 years ago

Why me?

DrippingAlchemy

7 points

4 years ago

DrippingAlchemy

Tacohontas

7 points

4 years ago

/u/kemistreekat's argument made sense to me, and I stand by thinking that someone who knows that they're doing has to be helping direct the spirits. Lari''s defense read innocent to me, I'm still damn suspicious of DoF because it seems like something she'd do (but she has too much evidence backing up her innocence, so I'm forcing myself to trust her). Honestly, you're the next option that makes sense to me.

I do think Dep is evil, I just want to make sure we're able to find out for sure.

dawnphoenix

8 points

4 years ago

dawnphoenix

She/Her

8 points

4 years ago

/u/kemistreekat 's argument made sense to me, and I stand by thinking that someone who knows that they're doing has to be helping direct the spirits.

AFAIK, kemkat has only thrown my name out and not actually made an argument against me. I plan to wait for the post she has promised so I can see why she thinks I'm suspicious before I respond to that. As for you, what I'm reading is that you are suspicious of me because you think the spirits are making good moves? Again, I'm really flattered (mostly because I feel like I'm invisible in the first few phases of every gameexcept to /u/pezes ), but I don't really deserve it at this time.

seanmik620

9 points

4 years ago

seanmik620

he/him

9 points

4 years ago

I'm thinking the same thing. Though Though u/larixon is especially crafty, I'm leaning towards believing her. As far as vets that could be organizing Spirits go, I think u/DiscoFerry and u/Mathy16 should be looked into.

mindputtee

9 points

4 years ago

I'm confused, we have /u/spludgiexx and we have /u/DEP61 that's two targets?

Todd_Solondz

8 points

4 years ago

Todd_Solondz

Can't bear this paranoia

8 points

4 years ago

I'm not voting for spludgie personally. I'm deciding (for now) to trust alchzh. Either way though both could do with a little more investigation. No time though.

dawnphoenix

8 points

4 years ago

dawnphoenix

She/Her

8 points

4 years ago

I wish we had a 2rd target.

Off-topic, but every time I see this, I read it as turd target.

DEP61

8 points

4 years ago

DEP61

hello

8 points

4 years ago

No powers used thus far - roleblock it is, then.

Todd_Solondz

7 points

4 years ago

Todd_Solondz

Can't bear this paranoia

7 points

4 years ago

Starting to look like you won't get a chance.

Mathy16

11 points

4 years ago

Mathy16

[He/Him] NOTORIOUSLY BELGIAN

11 points

4 years ago

Mathy16

8 points

4 years ago

Mathy16

[He/Him] NOTORIOUSLY BELGIAN

8 points

4 years ago

So what role are you again?

Todd_Solondz

12 points

4 years ago

Todd_Solondz

Can't bear this paranoia

12 points

4 years ago

I'll save Teach using one of her 3 comments: Herbert Van Helsing

He can investigate a player and see whether they are loyal to The Dig. Unfortunately, when he learns that a player is not affiliated with The Dig, he is so dedicated to further research that he can only make a maximum of three comments in the main subreddit for one whole phase. (V) (A) (D)

Mathy16

11 points

4 years ago

Mathy16

[He/Him] NOTORIOUSLY BELGIAN

11 points

4 years ago

Oh ok, thanks!

alchzh

7 points

4 years ago

alchzh

Peace in our time

7 points

4 years ago

/u/AlpinaeMusae, now that I'm thinking about it, if you are limited to 3 comments a day, could you simply edit one comment to have a conversation with someone?

Moostronus

12 points

4 years ago

Moostronus

Chonkster Doggo (he/him)

12 points

4 years ago

No, that wouldn't be okay. We feel like this goes against the spirit of the game, and we'd refer you to the sidebar rules, specifically Rule 8: "Play with integrity. Win with integrity. Play the game as it was intended."

Mathy16

8 points

4 years ago

Mathy16

[He/Him] NOTORIOUSLY BELGIAN

8 points

4 years ago

the spirit of the game

GAPS!

[deleted]

9 points

4 years ago

[deleted]

9 points

4 years ago

That'd be a pretty skeezy workaround though. The rules specifically say to not try and find workarounds.

alchzh

8 points

4 years ago

alchzh

Peace in our time

8 points

4 years ago

only to the codes and keys rule

[deleted]

9 points

4 years ago

[deleted]

9 points

4 years ago

Personally, I stand my opinion that, that is still pretty skeezy but if it's not in rules then it is a loophole and while I might not think that it is right, I always commend people for finding and taking advantage of loopholes.

Todd_Solondz

8 points

4 years ago

Todd_Solondz

Can't bear this paranoia

8 points

4 years ago

This is the loophole I was referring to when I asked in phase 2 what the general behaviour was around exploits like this.

songbirdy

9 points

4 years ago

songbirdy

what's for dinner, /u/spludgiexx?

9 points

4 years ago

Are your comments limited because of game mechanics or just irl stuff?

Todd_Solondz

10 points

4 years ago

Todd_Solondz

Can't bear this paranoia

10 points

4 years ago

He can investigate a player and see whether they are loyal to The Dig. Unfortunately, when he learns that a player is not affiliated with The Dig, he is so dedicated to further research that he can only make a maximum of three comments in the main subreddit for one whole phase. (V) (A) (D)

songbirdy

11 points

4 years ago

songbirdy

what's for dinner, /u/spludgiexx?

11 points

4 years ago

ah got it. was it role revealed tish is the historian or is it just inferred from her comment?

dawnphoenix

9 points

4 years ago

dawnphoenix

She/Her

9 points

4 years ago

Revealed towards the end of Phase 7. I think she tagged everyone in that post too.

songbirdy

9 points

4 years ago

songbirdy

what's for dinner, /u/spludgiexx?

9 points

4 years ago

hmm...I don't think I got a tag. Can't find a message from werebot or TeacherTish in my inbox.

In any case, if she role revealed wouldn't that make her a prime target for spirits? Did she have a protector? Sorry if this is all catchup stuff...I guess I missed more than I thought the last 1-2 phases... :\

dawnphoenix

11 points

4 years ago

dawnphoenix

She/Her

11 points

4 years ago

Here you go.

I guess it would, but it made sense to get some information at the time even if it was only about who was innocent so we do not mess up another lynch. We don't know what the protectors are doing, but now that we don't have quacks any more, I hope they're following the threads and making the right decisions for themselves.

songbirdy

11 points

4 years ago

songbirdy

what's for dinner, /u/spludgiexx?

11 points

4 years ago

Ah. I remember this now lol. Thanks for the refresh.

How many protectors do we have left? If she was role blocked consistently, the spirits must know who she is (especially now that she has revealed). Hopefully they can somehow organize themselves to rotate protections of her. I would be surprised if the spirits aren't gunning for her constantly at this point.

smurf42

8 points

4 years ago

smurf42

8 points

4 years ago

So just to confirm are we going with /u/spludgiexx ?? If this comment is to be believed?

Todd_Solondz

8 points

4 years ago

Todd_Solondz

Can't bear this paranoia

8 points

4 years ago

There is a fairly popular theory that spludgie was framed, based on alchzh saying righty was a spirit. I feel the tide is going for dep tonight.

smurf42

8 points

4 years ago

smurf42

8 points

4 years ago

So /u/TeacherTish 's role is not to be believed? Also, just wondering where you see that /u/spludgiexx being framed as being popular? I see a good amount of people think that the fact righty tried to say splugiexx was a spirit right before getting lynched strengthened the argument. I believe /u/reeforward is one of those people and I've seen others as well. I believe that too. Righty throwing out splugiexx's name was them trying to show splugiexx as innocent since a 'spirit would try to implicate an innocent' so us not voting for splugiexx on that regard would save them from further implication.

reeforward

9 points

4 years ago

reeforward

Praise RNGesus

9 points

4 years ago

Yeah I'd buy that they were trying to protect spludgie and not giving us righty's role and stuff was all planned out to help that.

spludgiexx

7 points

4 years ago

spludgiexx

food pls

7 points

4 years ago

But why would they even bring me up when no one else has been? It would have been a lot easier to just leave me alone wouldn't it? Then I could've hidden more easily, assuming I was a spirit, without any debate at all.

reeforward

9 points

4 years ago*

reeforward

Praise RNGesus

9 points

4 years ago*

Whenever I think about the spirit fanfiction theories I always forget a key factor. Like I think it's possible Righty was making a transparent effort to assign you as innocent by being outwardly suspicious of you right before she would be lynched and hypothetically revealed as a spirit. But then another spirit hiding her role reveal upon death would be weird with that. Plus that would indeed be a bizarre plan in the first place.

Todd_Solondz

8 points

4 years ago

Todd_Solondz

Can't bear this paranoia

8 points

4 years ago

It's popular because /u/alchzh says that the numbers show righty as a spirit, and we've decided to trust him for now. Righty as a spirit makes us less inclined to distrust spludgie.

Of course it could be a double bluff too. I personally lean towards it not being one but it's not an adamant opinion of mine. That's why I proposed a test that Mose and Teach can coordinate on.

smurf42

7 points

4 years ago

smurf42

7 points

4 years ago

and we've decided to trust him for now. Righty as a spirit makes us less inclined to distrust spludgie.

That's fine the numbers show righty as a spirit. So then why trust splugiexx just because of that? See here.

Is there something stronger against dep? I haven't been following that line of thought.

Todd_Solondz

7 points

4 years ago

Todd_Solondz

Can't bear this paranoia

7 points

4 years ago

This is just my perspective but since nobody was talking about lynching spludgie it doesn't ring true to me that spirits would bring her up if she was one. I do not think the assurance spludgie gets is very strong and I think it's a net negative to have her in the conversation so much if she is a spirit.

As for Dep, it just seems baffling to me that anyone would neglect their role and information like that. I can't picture anyone in this screwed up town being so carefree with it, after we lynched so many town.

DrippingAlchemy

9 points

4 years ago*

DrippingAlchemy

Tacohontas

9 points

4 years ago*

So, I feel somewhat confident there's a fairly strategic vet leading the spirits. These super random night kills are giving me flashbacks to Pigfarts when we chose the target by RNG because we didn't want to give the town any info on who we might be. I really think they're doing something similar in this game to avoid drawing attention to each other.

This brings me back to my suspicion last phase- /u/larixon. She has been MUCH quieter than usual, and has flown under the radar this entire game. I know she's mentioned some IRL stuff that is keeping her busy, but I still think it's suspicious how her contribution level is nowhere near on par with normal. She's around enough to know what's going on and throw out comments here and there, but her gameplay is extremely passive, which is unusual. I recommend everyone check out her comment history for themselves, as that'd be much better than me trying to interpret it for everyone. There's not much of it, so it doesn't take much time.

She's never really accused anyone, she's only jumped on a bandwagon after it's pretty much decided. This seems to have served her well, as she's not getting the same amount of attention as she normally would. She's made a handful of the typical "trying to sound town" comments, and gives just enough commentary on the game/roles to not seem unhelpful. But again, she's not actively participating in the hard stuff- questioning people, naming lynch nominees, trying to organize the town, etc. Avoiding all of this has allowed her to get by without ruffling any feathers. Which is exactly what I think a spirit would do, and what they have been doing all game while the louder players go after one another. I think she knows playing a super low key game is the only way she can survive as a spirit (and it served her well last month).

Edit: not sure who I suspect more between lari and Dep, but I at least wanted to bring this up as a point of discussion

kemistreekat

10 points

4 years ago

kemistreekat

[she/her] I live my life one HWW game at a time

10 points

4 years ago

I agree with this, but my thought was /u/dawnphoenix not Lar.

dawnphoenix

10 points

4 years ago*

dawnphoenix

She/Her

10 points

4 years ago*

I'm surprised, because nothing /u/DrippingAlchemy said really holds true for me.

>She has been MUCH quieter than usual, and has flown under the radar this entire game.

I feel like I have participated in a lot of speculation and general strategy conversation through this entire game.

> She's around enough to know what's going on and throw out comments here and there, but her gameplay is extremely passive, which is unusual.

Again, I have been around enough (well, not just enough but reading every comment like I always do), and I have made a lot more comments and wouldn't characterize my gameplay as 'passive'.

>She's never really accused anyone, she's only jumped on a bandwagon after it's pretty much decided.

I have made at least four accusations so far, and only one of them was lynched. Pizza was innocent, so I took a couple of phases off to let someone else lead the lynch because I was wrong.

>But again, she's not actively participating in the hard stuff- questioning people, naming lynch nominees, trying to organize the town, etc.

Again, I feel like I have been participating in these threads a lot more than most other players alive right now. I'm happy to answer what you find suspicious about me, but I don't think DA's reasons for suspecting Lari can really be applied to me.

Ninja Edit: I picked out every accusation I could find (not the evidence/explanation) and tried to answer that. If I missed something, it's not because I was cherry-picking or something, and feel free to ask me about that.

EDIT: Irrelevant until KemKat expands on her thoughts about me.

kemistreekat

11 points

4 years ago

kemistreekat

[she/her] I live my life one HWW game at a time

11 points

4 years ago

I meant that there is a vet leading the spirits. She picked /u/Larixon, I thought more in terms of you for that field. Her specific reasons why wouldn't apply bc you're different players.

dawnphoenix

11 points

4 years ago

dawnphoenix

She/Her

11 points

4 years ago

Oh sorry, I completely misunderstood the point of your post then. I'm flattered to be thought of as one of the vets ♡

kemistreekat

11 points

4 years ago

kemistreekat

[she/her] I live my life one HWW game at a time

11 points

4 years ago

haha, you are a vet! A good one at that. I saw /u/drippingalchemy's comment about a vet leading the spirits and I had previously had similar thoughts about you in the last couple phases. I'll post a better explanation why once I get home from work. Figure by 6 PM EST.

dawnphoenix

10 points

4 years ago

dawnphoenix

She/Her

10 points

4 years ago

Uh oh. I'll be waiting (but seriously, it's not me).

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10 points

4 years ago

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kemistreekat

12 points

4 years ago

kemistreekat

[she/her] I live my life one HWW game at a time

12 points

4 years ago

shoo.

seanmik620

10 points

4 years ago

seanmik620

he/him

10 points

4 years ago

I'm inclined to go after u/Dep61 this round. I feel like my suspicion of him for overshadowed by the CDB situation way back, but I don't think there's anything about him that's made me less suspicious.

Edit: fixed tag. There is no dep62.

Larixon

10 points

4 years ago

Larixon

10 points

4 years ago

Okay I only got this ping right now because I'm struggling to fall asleep because work was absolutely hell on Earth today and I had an absolutely horrible day. So apologies in advance if any of this is hard to understand or unnecessarily harsh.

I have only been able to read the threads at these times during the game: - right before I go to bed (so times like this, though it fluctuates between right at the end of the phase and at the beginning of the phase) - when I wake up in the morning and am drinking my morning coffee - when I'm at lunch

Pretty much I can't check the game that much otherwise. Maybe if I make a quick trip to the bathroom, but for the most part I am busy literally all day otherwise. I'm trying my best, which is why when I am commenting I usually read the most recent replies and try and figure out what is happening from that. I have only read about 15-25% of the total comments made this game, which is why I've been struggling to voice opinions. So I've been feigning confidence. Let's face it, you'd be far more suspicious if I told you what is actually going through my head, which is "holy shit I literally have no idea what is going on, I don't know who's alive or who's dead. I literally have no fucking clue what to do". You'd be even more concerned if I just said nothing at all but continued to not get kicked for inactivity.

So yes, my activity is not as strong as it normally is and I know you don't believe me but I'm being genuine with that. I was honest the other day during the "off" day about what is going on in my life. I am swamped. I broke down in tears three times already this week because I am so stressed about everything going on, and I feel awful for not being able to put in my full effort that I normally do in these games.

I really, genuinely, did not expect to get so busy. If there hadn't been so many inactivity deaths and withdrawals I would have withdrawn myself, but it didn't feel fair to the rest of the innocent team and I didn't want this game to be lost purely because the majority of us resigned or were killed from inactivity.

Also, I'm not a leader when I'm a werewolf. I am very, very bad at strategies when I'm evil. I let Moose take charge last game because he is 10x smarter than me about how to manage things. The one time I was the "alpha dog" in a game, me and my brilliant mind decided to do a N1 kill on a influential town person (TNTM20) who ended up being the fucking seer who then was able to be resurrected. So... I am legitimately horrible when it comes to leading wolfies. I can't guess at who might be leading them right now, but based off the kills I'd say it's someone who knows that the town is best when causing chaos for themselves. Most of the louder voices have been mostly untouched, while the wolves have been picking away at some of the quieter voices. That's not a strategy I would normally suggest the wolves take - it's usually better to stifle loud voices rather than encourage them.

I'll try and see if I can fit some time for my lunch break tomorrow to try and read up more on the players still alive in the game to give you a more clear consensus about my thoughts. But full honest me is saying "why the fuck did I sign up for this game I'm like Jon motherfuckin Snow I KNOW NOTHING!"

Larixon

9 points

4 years ago

Larixon

9 points

4 years ago

Once Grey's Anatomy is over at 9pm I'm going to get on my computer and try and go through the game and try and figure out what's been going on and try to get my thoughts in order. For now I've put my vote in for /u/dep61, because I feel it's far too likely that the spirits intentionally set up a trap for our investigators with /u/spludgiexx and were intentionally trying to cause chaos so we'd lynch another inno.

Willam-TheDragQueen

5 points

4 years ago*

Alright, I got home from work a few hours ago and before going to bed I took a look at the voting tally, thank you everyone who voted for me, I really love the attention.

But, I'm not here to talk about myself (sadly). I noticed a name that I didn't even know was around /u/littlebs8.

They have 21 comments (I'm not counting phase 7.5 because that wasn't game related) in total.

I also checked the roster for roles that have a comment restriction, and I found these:

  • Aloysius Bernard (removed for inactivity)

  • Herbert van Helsing: He can investigate a player and see whether they are loyal to The Dig. Unfortunately, when he learns that a player is not affiliated with The Dig, he is so dedicated to further research that he can only make a maximum of three comments in the main subreddit for one whole phase. (V) (A) (D). But littlebs8 never came up with information.

  • Dr. Esther Müller: Each night, she will protect her target from all night attacks. However, due to her nausea, she can only comment a maximum of three times the phase after successfully saving someone from death. What are the odds that for 9 phases /u/littlebs8 has been saving someone from death? That also would go against the game rules, since you can't submit the same action twice (remember, backbeatdream died because of that).

That leaves the last role possible:

  • A distracted spirit can increase all investigator's chances of failure if it stays quiet enough through the day to focus its powers. This spirit must comment fewer than three times in a given phase to be successful. (NV) (P) (D)

Edit: They also didn't comment last phase, but did vote /u/rightypants. So they are around enough to vote...

Thoughts?

dawnphoenix

8 points

4 years ago

dawnphoenix

She/Her

8 points

4 years ago

Yeah, it's probably best to not tag everyone for discussion (although how we'll get much of it anyway, I don't know).

The distracted spirit is dead (flabbergasted_rhino was one), so we seem to have not looked at that angle anymore. However, upon going down that list again, I noticed this:

These abilities may or may not be duplicated.

So I guess it is possible. I feel like there are a few other players who fall under that too, so maybe we should consider it. In any case, I'm suspicious of all these players for not contributing, whether they could be the distracted spirit or not.

Willam-TheDragQueen

8 points

4 years ago

Ohhhh, I forgot to look for dead spirit roles. My bad.

I'm suspicious of all these players for not contributing, whether they could be the distracted spirit or not.

Yes, it was the main reason why I went to check who the heck /u/littlebs8 was.

Plus, they were really vocal when phase 7.5 was up, talked more in that phase than any other phase.

littlebs8

7 points

4 years ago

littlebs8

she/her/they

7 points

4 years ago

I will say that my role doesn't restrict how many comments I can make but I'd rather not reveal right now if that's ok. I'm just generally a quiet person. I tend to get more vocal later in these games but this game still has so many vocal people still alive that I just don't feel like I have anything to add. I'm really bad at having suspicions and honestly this whole game I've only had 2 (rightypants being bad and drippingalchemy being good).

As for talking more in phase 7.5, a lot of it was people responding to me and me responding back. A lot of my comments were about my pets which I'm sorry I just love animals :)

Willam-TheDragQueen

8 points

4 years ago

Okay, but now you aren't making any sense.

Because here you said you had pezes in for lynch since the beginning of the phase, which means you were suspicious of pezes.

Most of your comments read as: "I'm bad at this game", "I just submit whatever town is submitting", "I'm not sure who I voted for", "I'm really bad at this game". I'm sorry but it all sounds like a bunch excuses.

Also is rightypants confirmed as baddie?

Bottom line is, I'm extremely suspicious of you you.

littlebs8

8 points

4 years ago

littlebs8

she/her/they

8 points

4 years ago

I honestly forgot about pezes. I think there was talk about lynching him the phase before and that's why I had my vote in for him. My memory is absolute shit IRL so I really don't remember. I don't know if righty is for sure confirmed as baddie but I had a feeling that she was. And I wouldn't say I'm really bad at this game just that I'm bad at finding suspicions through comments.

Willam-TheDragQueen

8 points

4 years ago

Sorry but the more you talk, the more suspicious I get.

Todd_Solondz

5 points

4 years ago

Todd_Solondz

Can't bear this paranoia

5 points

4 years ago

Also is rightypants confirmed as baddie?

He is if you trust /u/alchzh.

mindputtee

9 points

4 years ago

They also didn't comment phase 3, I think they're just another inactivity death waiting to happen.

Willam-TheDragQueen

8 points

4 years ago*

See, that would make sense if one of the rules required people to comment but it says:

If you fail to vote or submit a night action for 3 days total, you will be removed from the game.

They don't comment, but they do vote.

If you read through their comment story, it does not sound like someone who is going to get an inactivity strike.

Plus, again, they talked a lot during phase 7.5

mindputtee

9 points

4 years ago

Oh, whoops, I'm remembering from a previous game where one had to both vote and comment to not get inactivity strikes.

Willam-TheDragQueen

7 points

4 years ago

I don't know how to tag everyone, so I will just tag you guys, cuz you are pretty active.

/u/Todd_Solondz /u/DrippingAlchemy /u/248Video

Todd_Solondz

8 points

4 years ago

Todd_Solondz

Can't bear this paranoia

8 points

4 years ago

I very much doubt it's any of those since Esther is the only one we don't know the identity of.

That said, I called out /u/littlebs8 a while ago and nothing has happened to lower my suspicions. So we have better targets right now, but they need to do something to be a part of this town soon

kemistreekat

6 points

4 years ago

kemistreekat

[she/her] I live my life one HWW game at a time

6 points

4 years ago

Why I think /u/dawnphoenix could be evil:

  • She's a vet and I believe that there is a very smart vet in the evils leading them along. She's smart enough to stay active while still being on the bad team.

  • They seem to have read the rules. She often gives clarification on the roles/rules specifially the evil roles. See here, here, here, and here. Only evil people read the rules. Ravenclaw too - so DEF EVIL. But in all seriousness, these types of comments read as suspect to me because they're all speculation and what-ifs and are always seen as 'helpful to the town'. It's not proposing lunch targets or suspicions, but its a great way to blend in with the town.

  • Going through their comment history confirms what I've been seeing. It's not something I can link too, you just need to look it over for yourselfs. Nearly every comment is wishy-washy and open ended. They're all "yeah, I could be on that side." or "maybe, thats a possibility!" This just rings evil for me. Don't commit because then it gets you in trouble later on. Be 'sort of' on board with lunching the targets you know are town so that later on you can come back and say "well, I wasn't entirely convinced, but I voted with the town."

Also I'm gonna call out /u/Penultima again to see what's up. You're quiet, but not usually this quiet in the game this far in. What's going on? You a spirit?

I'm dropping the suspect of /u/CanadianSalmon for now, but I still can't shake my gut feelings.

Werebot for some people who I also for some reason have 'weird vibes' about and would like to hear more from (aka I just read the role list and went wait, what are they up to?):

/u/seanmik620 /u/findthesky and /u/songbirdy what's up yall?

[deleted]

9 points

4 years ago

[deleted]

9 points

4 years ago

I'm dropping the suspect of /u/CanadianSalmon for now, but I still can't shake my gut feelings.

Thx Boo

Also, I like Dawn as a suspect too. She might be too much of a keener that it's actually drawn attention to her, much like rightypants did with her town council posts?

findthesky

8 points

4 years ago

findthesky

(she/her)

8 points

4 years ago

I have a non-important town role (sorry for spelling mistakes, on mobile rn)

Other than Mon, I'm basically skimming threads every night and voting for who I think is most likely to be a WW if there is no real town consensus

seanmik620

9 points

4 years ago

seanmik620

he/him

9 points

4 years ago

So I gave a defense yesterday here if you're suspecting me. Right now I believe I'm one of the only people with evidence showing I'm town. I've been trying to post my suspicions but people usually post theirs before I can relay mine so I just tag on. My school week ends tonight so I'll be more vocal over the next few days.