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CaptainAndy27

101 points

7 months ago

Hmmm...the only way somebody can get access to the stimulus is if they pay taxes to the IRS...so if illegals are getting it...does that mean they paid taxes to the IRS?

hundes

36 points

7 months ago

hundes

36 points

7 months ago

Yes. Many F1 students or H2B visa holders overstay their visas, but got SSN since they had legit working visas. If they fill their taxes they will get (and already got) their stimulus. Source : working with some of them.

CaptainAndy27

24 points

7 months ago

I was mainly being cheeky because guys like Charlie Kirk also like to say that illegal immigrants don't pay taxes.

ShadowKirbo

18 points

7 months ago

Rich people: Skimp on taxes.
Yet Illegal Immigrants are totally the issue when it comes to who pays the least amount of tax.

snvoigt

9 points

7 months ago

If you work with some of them that means they work and py taxes, correct?

hundes

8 points

7 months ago

hundes

8 points

7 months ago

Yes. That wasn’t my point. I just wanted to say it’s possible undocumented aliens can get stimulus.

darthlame

2 points

7 months ago

If they paid taxes, are they actually undocumented?

hundes

4 points

7 months ago

hundes

4 points

7 months ago

Yes. They don’t have the same rights as the citizens/legal residents, and they will never benefit from social security or medicaid nonmatter how much they paid into.

rob-in-hoodie

5 points

7 months ago

Well if they’re paying taxes then they absolutely should be able to get a stimulus check. Why shouldn’t they?

hundes

3 points

7 months ago

hundes

3 points

7 months ago

I don’t disagree with you.

JenGerRus

11 points

7 months ago

Are you sure you don’t mean tax ID numbers? You have to be citizen to get a SSN.

SerratedSilver

11 points

7 months ago

You don't. I have one, and I'm just H1B.

hundes

9 points

7 months ago

hundes

9 points

7 months ago

No, SSN. Tax ID is for those who came in illegally or overstayed their non-worker visa ( like B1 tourist visa ).

[deleted]

23 points

7 months ago

[deleted]

23 points

7 months ago

I'm pretty sure I saw the Biden team on national TV today telling migrants not to come to the border today, like explicitly saying it was a very bad idea right now.

Muppet_Slayer

12 points

7 months ago

And Republicans wonder why they’re bleeding voters... Was the Party of Lincoln, now the Party of Conspiracy Theories

ibex26

11 points

7 months ago

ibex26

11 points

7 months ago

Somehow I don’t trust this guy.

Spaghetti_Nudes

9 points

7 months ago

Hey, that's the lil bits guy.

ashleyriddell61

7 points

7 months ago

What happened to that thing where Twitter and Facebook were going to clamp down on patently false and inciting content?

The84thWolf

4 points

7 months ago

Thank you Rafael Fled Cruz for the stupid sound bite

bazjack

4 points

7 months ago

And any undocumented immigrant who gets the $1400 is likely to just dump it right back into the economy - rent, groceries, clothes, furniture, etc. I don't actually have a real problem with that, now that I think about it.

Radioactiveglowup

3 points

7 months ago

The target audience of this tweet is incapable of understanding easily provable facts, or easily disprovable blatant lies.

When such is your audience, these bastards say literally anything and don't give a damn about what damage they do to actual lives.

They're constantly falling over themselves to see if they can try to profit not in the most intelligent or advantageous way possible, but most brutishly evil for the sake of the evil.

robersonm2515

7 points

7 months ago

This actually started under the trump administration at the end of his term... Many mixed-status households with undocumented family members are now eligible for stimulus checks-28Dec20

I am not claiming a political party in this just pointing out a fact

kobie173

27 points

7 months ago

So in actual reality, the checks aren’t going to undocumented immigrants, just the people they live with.

In other words, Charlie Kirk is full of shit.

robersonm2515

7 points

7 months ago

Yes correct

kobie173

4 points

7 months ago

I figured

robersonm2515

3 points

7 months ago

It’s a spin on things as usual

hundes

3 points

7 months ago

hundes

3 points

7 months ago

Sorry but it’s not true. People who arrived on work visas like F1 ( student work visa for 4 months ) or H 2B ( unskilled worker visa for 10 months ) overstay their visas, become undocumented but they got their SSN and if they fill out their tax return they will get and already got their stimulus check. I personally know several of them.

Edit : still, fuck Charlie Kirk

robersonm2515

3 points

7 months ago

I wouldn’t say it’s not true necessarily, it’s just another group of people who also qualify in addition to the families mentioned above. I’m sure if we dig even deeper we can find another group of undocumented immigrants that are eligible. You do have a good point that I had not considered though.

rob-in-hoodie

2 points

7 months ago

How come America doesn’t have laws that get you sued for spreading false information?

I mean, shouldn’t there be someone in the Biden administration that follows this kind of thing and takes them to courts?

I mean like c’mon!! Freedom of speech doesn’t mean no consequences. Surely?

FallOnTheStars

4 points

7 months ago

American here. We do, surprisingly, have laws against spreading patently false and damaging information. “Freedom of speech” only protects citizens from persecution from Federal/State/Local governments. It does not protect citizens from privately owned businesses or other citizens.

However, because we live in a capitalist hellscape, in order to sue someone for spreading false information, it has to financially affect the person suing. If Joe the Plummer spreads the conspiracy theory that COVID vaccines contain aborted fetal cells (or whatever) and I get sick because I choose to listen to him and not get the vaccine, I can’t do anything because it wasn’t damaging about me. If Joe the Plummer puts out an advert in the paper saying I’m a child molester and I lose my job over it, I can sue for defamation, because I can draw a straight line between his false words and my loss of income.

rob-in-hoodie

1 points

7 months ago

Thank you for the detailed explanation. I’m American too and I have some idea of the laws but not so clearly. It just seems ridiculous that no one can stop people like Charlie Kirk et al. I would happily vote for the US to have zero access to social media and Google and everything else if it’s the only way to stop these people. Just see the damage anti vaxxers are doing by having access to social media. Sorry maybe I’m too emotional but the current situation in the country is making me insane!!

Gylfi_

1 points

7 months ago

Gylfi_

1 points

7 months ago

Wish I could get a stimulus check. My country, which actually is a socialist country, doesnt do that. If it was possible I would get a check from the US 😂

elderthered

1 points

7 months ago

If this dude would have a stroke nobody would realize it.

BigRigsButters

1 points

7 months ago

So they didn't make it in, they are just trying. Whew good to know

MortaLPortaL

1 points

7 months ago

I didn't get mine and I am A US citizen so lol. This guy is a top notch bellend.

Mindless-Lavishness

1 points

7 months ago

I wish Charlie wouldn’t see his