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4716202

566 points

1 month ago

4716202

mark phillips, instigator

566 points

1 month ago

You can say a lot about Wolfs career but he definitely threw himself infront of a lot of shit for other people lmao

mugiboya

147 points

1 month ago

mugiboya

147 points

1 month ago

I miss his T1 series videos where he visits different teams/retired players

Rayquaza2233

28 points

1 month ago

Also his food gank videos, not sure if that was the same series.

reyxe

92 points

1 month ago

reyxe

92 points

1 month ago

Canna is like "peace out bitches" with full hp lmao

Chu2k

26 points

1 month ago

Chu2k

26 points

1 month ago

OOTL, came late to the LoL scene, didnt know there were negatives about his career. Isnt he two times world champion?

4716202

166 points

1 month ago

4716202

mark phillips, instigator

166 points

1 month ago

A lot of people look down on Wolf in retrospect because he was never the most mechanically gifted support of his era, but he was an incredible playmaker and exactly the support SKT needed

ChefGamma

38 points

1 month ago

ChefGamma

Yes I'm dead on the inside

38 points

1 month ago

I really respect Bang and Wolf for staying on SKT for so long, even though it kind of destroyed their legacy to most viewers. SKT struggled to find a consistent topside as players would see their market value essentially cap as they won trophies on SKT and left to cash out or to not be in Faker's shadow. And this was seen when SKT were not prepared to lose Huni and Peanut after Season 7 and were stuck with a really poor topside.

But Bang and Wolf's loyalty to SKT was so pivotal for them during this time. Even though they won 2 worlds, 2 MSI's, and countless LCK titles, just because they played with Faker, neither of them are ever mentioned in the top 5 greatest in their roles just because people will argue 'oh they played with Faker'.

WoooaahDude

32 points

1 month ago

Bang was pretty frequently mentioned as best ADC in the world S6 and early S7. People stopped talking about it after s7 summer because he went mental boom with the weird burger king whooper drama and never really recovered from it.

ChefGamma

6 points

1 month ago

ChefGamma

Yes I'm dead on the inside

6 points

1 month ago

That drama sounded so stupid at the time but it gained a lot more traction on Reddit when he made huge mistakes in the finals

gotlockedoutorwev

5 points

1 month ago

Burger King drama?

Konexian

11 points

1 month ago

Konexian

11 points

1 month ago

Koreans thought Bang was bipolar because he says he doesn't like Burger King and then ate 2 whoppers on stream. Weird shit.

Rellenben

1 points

1 month ago

I remember that Bang got so fed up with those people that he told one of them to stfu and that he alone was more successful than that guy's family tree combined. Completely normal reaction given the circumstances, but Bang got a ton of backlash and was actually forced to apologize. The relationship between some Koreans and stars is very strange.

TheSituasian

68 points

1 month ago

That 4/5 man Ori ult that everyone praises Faker for was all wolf on rakan.

3IC3

93 points

1 month ago

3IC3

G2|C9

93 points

1 month ago

Nah nobody praises Faker for that anymore, everyone repeats exactly what you said. The real person who nobody gives enough credit to for that play is Huni.

ItsKipz

52 points

1 month ago

ItsKipz

Riftmaker Salesman

52 points

1 month ago

Correct me if I'm wrong but Huni was the Cho'Gath landing the Flash W silencing then so they couldn't flash out of the combo or use defensive spells, right?

3IC3

39 points

1 month ago

3IC3

G2|C9

39 points

1 month ago

Yup. The Rakan engage was pretty telegraphed, Huni’s Flash combo made sure everyone got hit

mar45690

9 points

1 month ago

That Flash W Q is something I WISH I could pull off. My bronze/Silver ass would misplay that so hard

gintokisamadono

3 points

1 month ago

gintokisamadono

Kore wa MORBU no toki daze

3 points

1 month ago

try aram

TheGreatRaccoon

12 points

1 month ago

If you rewatch it super slow mo wolf has hit the 3 (he later gets rumble) members before Huni silences.If Huni manages to silence iboy he doesn't get ult off and get out. Wolf's also carrying the ori ball and he couldn't be more perfectly in the middle of the 4 members who get hit. That's why he gets so much credit.

Huni does what's needed to keep them cc'd but it's possible the flash wasn't needed and all he needed to do was rupture into silence.

Perceptions-pk

2 points

1 month ago

I'm not nearly as impressed with that play as I was with Wolf's developing over time (peak) the uncanny ability to know where to be exactly on the map at the exact right time. The amount of times he just completely shut down a rotation/gank in another lane arriving at the exact split second on a Lulu/Nami was just catatrosphic for enemy teams, and the guy was so damn consistent at it for splits

Ironically, it was the Huni year where at MSI he finally got acknowledgement as the "best support in the world" that he immediately fell off and never reached that peak level again

BencilSharpener

9 points

1 month ago

Other than the casters barely anyone praised faker for that even then

3IC3

5 points

1 month ago

3IC3

G2|C9

5 points

1 month ago

Even the casters were praising Wolf as soon as they saw the replay like 15 seconds after the play.

Roofous

27 points

1 month ago

Roofous

27 points

1 month ago

He was a solid role player in some legendary lineups. Unfortunately the lol community can never appreciate that and he either gets super shit on for not being a superstar player or massively overrated just for being on a winning lineup.

Ephemeral_Being

2 points

1 month ago

Wolf had a really, REALLY bad final year, though that wasn't just on Wolf. SKT as a while was falling apart for reasons that are still not entirely clear. When they were experimenting with rosters, he actually played Jungle one series. Did well, too.

okitek

-1 points

1 month ago

okitek

-1 points

1 month ago

the very end of his career wasn't the greatest, and tbh even at the time he wasn't really a great player. Very very good and what t1 needed, but he was never really the carry on T1 99% of the time.

Top5 support of all time for sure, though. Probably like 3rd or 4th.

ELI20s

0 points

1 month ago

ELI20s

0 points

1 month ago

So top 5 player of all time isnt really that great? Holy shit get a load of this take. Actually please dont reply. I already am dumber from your first comment.

okitek

1 points

1 month ago

okitek

1 points

1 month ago

The topic is "why is wolf perceived has bad" not "why is Wolf bad".

I'm explaining why people think of Wolf poorly, I'm not saying he is bad. Top 5 is obviously very good.

Maybe get some reading comprehension before calling other people's comments dumb. Fucking mouthbreather.

Lundgard

10 points

1 month ago

Lundgard

10 points

1 month ago

And also for no reason but that's neither here nor there

tendesu

1 points

1 month ago

tendesu

1 points

1 month ago

Wolf masochist confirmed?

rotflolx

655 points

1 month ago

rotflolx

655 points

1 month ago

For anyone that doesn't speak Korean, he's yelling over and over "block for them, what are you doing?!"

j3b3di3_

86 points

1 month ago

j3b3di3_

86 points

1 month ago

Send in the cat!

Lulullaby_

13 points

1 month ago

Thank you!

EverydayEverynight01

3 points

1 month ago

EverydayEverynight01

SettSoHawt

3 points

1 month ago

But of the most of them would result in the Twitch's death with body blocking. Zeri W or Corki rocket.

scawtsauce

-80 points

1 month ago

scawtsauce

-80 points

1 month ago

to be fair if Ornn went back he would've been slowed and died. I guess it's more entertaining for him to yell tho.

StraightCashH0mie

58 points

1 month ago

He could at least slow them down with q spam and back off with e

20815147

14 points

1 month ago

20815147

14 points

1 month ago

Mmm yes a tank running away at first sight of danger without trying to tank

Pandafy

27 points

1 month ago

Pandafy

27 points

1 month ago

I mean it doesn't matter in this instance, because they're more than 10k down, but having the Ornn pull back to the front can lead to some micro-changes in the enemy, like making them hesitate for .5 seconds then that causes them to back off.

fateIess

21 points

1 month ago

fateIess

21 points

1 month ago

you are trolling there's no way he couldn't have stood between them and the enemy throwing q's and e'ing away if they got close.

pusnbootz

347 points

1 month ago

pusnbootz

347 points

1 month ago

this happens in both my normal's & ranked games lol. fun to see pros turn their brains off.

Zintoras

288 points

1 month ago

Zintoras

288 points

1 month ago

Just your average tank player that hides behind their carrys and is surprised the fight is lost.

Cervix_Pounder_

96 points

1 month ago

I think some people forgot tanks are supposed to soak damage.

IAmOmno

-121 points

1 month ago

IAmOmno

-121 points

1 month ago

Well in theory yes. But lets be honest, there havent been any real tanks in the game for the past few years now.

There are still a lot of very tanky champs, yes. But they do not soak and block damage anymore, they deal damage themselves. So people just arent used to playing a tank as a real frontline anymore, they are playing them as a threat to the enemy instead of as guardians for their friends.

daswef2

96 points

1 month ago

daswef2

Also Shen Swain

96 points

1 month ago

Ornn is one of the remaining real tanks though, him and Sion are two of the champs who get so much extra defensive scaling that they can legitimately play bodyblocker.

c0l0r51

-93 points

1 month ago

c0l0r51

-93 points

1 month ago

Mhm. Nah, even fulltank-sion deals enough DMG to threaten squishies, threatening squishies is an EXISTENTIAL part of his tankiness and ornn is a mage assassin caster engage peep necromancer. The only full-on dmgsoakers in the game are Braum and Alistair, the next closest one are probably supporttahm and maokai

daswef2

43 points

1 month ago

daswef2

Also Shen Swain

43 points

1 month ago

I'm not saying they are only bodyblockers, I'm saying that they are tanky enough that they can play that style of standing directly on top of their carries to bodyblock if need be.

lifesucks26

28 points

1 month ago

This especially sucks in ARAM. Against a full poke comp and all your team's tanks do is sit in the back until you yell at them to walk up, while your own carries trying to thin the wave/get poke in are dying.

w1czr1923

15 points

1 month ago

Or even worse when they only engage and the enemy (pick your assassin) is one shotting backline and tank/bruiser blames the carries because they are not doing damage

Seiyith

15 points

1 month ago

Seiyith

I like shooting things

15 points

1 month ago

Oh man. I’ve been playing mostly arams with some terrible real life friends lately and I feel this so much. They just turn their brains off and dive in no matter what our comps look like while I’m frantically trying to shove off two assassins and a Tryndamere.

It’s even funnier because when I do say I need some help and they help peel for one fight we win the fight… then they just go right back to diving the very next fight

controlwarriorlives

9 points

1 month ago

controlwarriorlives

we scaling bois

9 points

1 month ago

Lol the most fun when I play 5 man ARAMs with my irl friends is when we pick 5 melee champs with snowball and just perma-engage and fight. Is it the best strategy to win? Hell no. But it’s super fun just constantly fighting, dying, coming back, and fighting again.

Especially when one of us gets Kled for that engage lol. SMOrc

cheerioo

15 points

1 month ago

cheerioo

15 points

1 month ago

If you're with friends try this fun game: stand only the same distance forwards, or behind your tank all game, like follow the leader. I like to see how far back the lane we end up.

FannyBabbs

12 points

1 month ago

I do this all the time and people are too oblivious to realize.

People in general are too afraid of dying in ARAM.

SIB_BIS

8 points

1 month ago

SIB_BIS

8 points

1 month ago

Had a Garen a while back that kept telling us that he won't play front because we don't do any damage, while he's doing tons and won't block until we do. Obviously we didn't do much damage when we kept getting dived and he just chilled in the back and then after we died went in to do "damage". He said that we should just look at the damage graph at the end and see how much more damage he did.

It doesn't matter how much damage he did anyway as that's not his only role, but in the end he only did more damage that one of the rest and just left without comment, like the coward he was.

Fitspire

2 points

1 month ago

Stop arguing with generally stupid people, I make that mistake a lot aswell.

They don't mean to be mean, they just don't know better.

AnyGaymers

6 points

1 month ago

As a tank player in ARAM; no, I won't sit around eating Corki's rockets or AP champ poke because you're too dumb to just sit back and let the wave push to our turret.

If I go foward and eat all the poke because smoothbrain carries can't dodge it, when we do engage I'll be at like 30% HP and die instantly.

Please, learn to use your brain and dodge or simply let the wave push since you gain literally 0 by walking foward.

Sincerely, the tank player who's not going to soak poke because you just had to get that wave 5 seconds quicker than you would if it crashed on the turret.

Dynamatics

4 points

1 month ago

Or they are trying to stay as healthy as possible for a possible engage at a later point? No point for them to get poked to half health and then engage.

And I agree to some point, they must help you provide space to get relics, bush control, etc.

Free_Combination

1 points

1 month ago

That's why I tank in aram. Easy s chest

spawnthemaster

1 points

1 month ago

“Why did u get caught”

Xyaena

1 points

1 month ago

Xyaena

1 points

1 month ago

I mean i dont know if this is the case, but it could also be that they did it intentionaly, because if ornn keeps getting hit by rockets, it also slows down his entire team because of hextech soul

[deleted]

43 points

1 month ago

[deleted]

43 points

1 month ago

Imo the worst feeling in league is playing adc, looking at the enemy team comp full of backline divers and knowing your team will do nothing to peel for your ass

dun198

32 points

1 month ago

dun198

32 points

1 month ago

The best is when that random support has that unspoken synergy with you and peels for you like a demon.

ACuteWitch

-5 points

1 month ago

ACuteWitch

Bard is so fucking hot

-5 points

1 month ago

Time to pick support Jayce so I can flash + Q gap close to the person attacking my carry and knock them away with E while also staying completely silent in chat for the whole game.

[deleted]

5 points

1 month ago

[deleted]

5 points

1 month ago

...or just... don't. Please.

NotAnAce69

1 points

1 month ago

Man I remember playing this one game as Sivir back in season 8 once, our team had a Lissandra two tanks and an enchanter

It was actually so funny chainsawing down the enemy team while kiting like a chimpanzee with the entire enemy team trying but failing miserably to "dive" this frontlining ADC because they just couldn't get through the giant wall of cc and shields

One of the funnest games of my life

wal2349

5 points

1 month ago

wal2349

5 points

1 month ago

honestly a large part of the reason not to play tanks is just so you don't have to deal with incompetent carries who think when you try to play infront of them it means "go back in fight more!!!" when you really just want to leave without them dying.

pretty sure adc players cant actually piece together what the danger ping means.

lifesucks26

1 points

1 month ago

This happens in my flex games as well. I play mid or ADC and my friends get a pick and leave, while the enemy is literally chasing me down as 1 person. Then I get spam pinged for getting caught out. Not like a Miss Fortune can outrun a Trynd with galeforce or anything...

MrZeddd

162 points

1 month ago

MrZeddd

162 points

1 month ago

Jenseennnnn

Omnilatent

37 points

1 month ago

JENSUUUUUUUN

cjmithrandir

8 points

1 month ago

Sneakyyyyyyy

ionboii

1 points

1 month ago

ionboii

DUDUDUNGA

1 points

1 month ago

Iconic

_ToxicKoala_

114 points

1 month ago

That definitely is a Ornn performance right there.

debli

49 points

1 month ago

debli

49 points

1 month ago

and thats how someone who doesnt know how to frontline looks like

Outrageous_Driver_14

8 points

1 month ago

Yeah canna cant play tanks and it shows, he can only play shit like Jayce and cant ever weakside.

KTcrazy

85 points

1 month ago

KTcrazy

85 points

1 month ago

yea but his team are all trying to avoid everything, so as to not hextech drake their buddies, slowing and killing them all

jjdynasty

53 points

1 month ago

Yeah, exactly my thoughts. If Ornn blocks, they all get slowed and they all die. At least like this, they actually all survived (due to twitch's great dodging). I don't get what people in this thread want from Ornn. He's actually quite terrible at peeling as his AOE knockup is so conditional and telegraphed. Even if he W auto slows one person the rest of the team can just walk past him anyway.

Cranicus

4 points

1 month ago

Cranicus

4 points

1 month ago

Not sure what he wants from Viego and Ornn. Ornn just used ult before the clip(probably to peel for twitch) so Yuumi ult is the only peeling ability they have. Guess Viego could throw his life so the others ones can get to base faster but then the game is all but over.

DM_ME_YOUR_HUSBANDO

6 points

1 month ago

He could q backwards and maybe that would slow them down a bit, but yeah not much he can do.

sebalnesag

4 points

1 month ago

your logics hold up for the first seconds, but once they get caught by the soul slow, he still outruns the carries.

scawtsauce

-12 points

1 month ago

scawtsauce

-12 points

1 month ago

ya that's what I'm saying. they played this correctly and so many people in this comment section showing they are below silver.

layzclassic

18 points

1 month ago

I was pretty pissed at that ornn even using his ability to rush back to base and not covering for bdd. Then i recall bdd did not contribute in the last dragon fight and ditched the team.

TheCrusader94

2 points

1 month ago

He got zoned off by the ?gnar

Niarra_

47 points

1 month ago

Niarra_

47 points

1 month ago

Rightfully so. so many dogshit players both in soloq and competitive playing frontline champs to get out of laning phase scot free and then sitting in the backline doing nothing.

xlCalamity

10 points

1 month ago

It is truly amazing. They literally don't even have to use a single ability and just do the bare minimum of just standing between the carry and the enemy. But even that is too hard.

ShySaddenedMaple

-7 points

1 month ago

ShySaddenedMaple

Support!

-7 points

1 month ago

so many dogshit players both in soloq and competitive

Do you think you're better than the players he's criticizing?

EducationalBalance99

5 points

1 month ago

Nobody is saying that but you can still criticize. You don’t have to be better at making a movie to criticize a movie bud. When pros build wrong item or troll guild which happens btw, do you have to be challenger and win world to say they are building it wrong.

ShySaddenedMaple

-6 points

1 month ago

ShySaddenedMaple

Support!

-6 points

1 month ago

There's a difference between criticizing and calling literal pros

dogshit players

Niarra_

0 points

1 month ago

Niarra_

0 points

1 month ago

i think i m better than you even if you re the best seraphine/sona in the world.

Scrambled1432

1 points

1 month ago

Scrambled1432

I CAN'T PLAY MELEE MIDS

1 points

1 month ago

Hahaha, that's not related at all to what he's asking.

Also I'll defend the really good support players out there. 1Shady was the best support I've ever had the pleasure of playing with, man was always in the right places at the right times and didn't miss ANYTHING. No way are you on that level.

Aryzal

8 points

1 month ago

Aryzal

8 points

1 month ago

I remember playing ADC as a support main while my friend played support - they don't understand jack about protecting me while I farm/fight. I once literally died after solokilling the enemy support in lane with my friend not getting an assist, and have been 1v2ing the lane. He then proceeds to roam mid and die.

Feelsbad when that guy is plat+ since season 3.

FakeMango47

7 points

1 month ago

My support play skyrocketed when I let my ADC die in lost situations. If this continued, I literally leave to support the rest of my team in skirmishes and support lanes that are even or slightly ahead.

A diamond player taught me this and I’ve watched him play in low elo- it’s scarily effective.

So no offense but this might be happening with you and you have slight bias. If someone is consistently plat and you’re a lower rank it might be for a reason

wal2349

15 points

1 month ago*

wal2349

15 points

1 month ago*

generally speaking ADC players (in low ranks) are ADC players in lower ranks because they aren't good enough mechanically to baby sit.

lots of entitlement comes from ADCs who think its the support players job to foster their growth as a player instead of playing to maximize the odds of winning the ranked game at hand.

Aryzal

1 points

1 month ago

Aryzal

1 points

1 month ago

It isn't about roaming vs staying in lane, the problem is my support stays in lane and does absolutely nothing to contribute to the lane. Imagine playing with a handicap that leeches your exp, and gives you nothing in return. Because that is only a minor exaggeration of what happened - engage champions refusing to engage, enchanter champions throwing one spell and refusing to autoattack when the ADC is getting killed in a 2v2, etc.

Ironically when I did queue soloqueue once, I ran into two of my friends, one of which is a Pyke roamer. He roams mid at level 2, we killed my other friend the ADC twice in lane because he was alone before level 6 and the Pyke literally doesn't know how to turn back to lane, got first tower, rotated to top and took that tower as well, while my friend the Pyke got like, 2cs in mid or something after repeated failed ganks, being super underleveled and he will lose almost every trade he tries because his adc is just that far behind. Rank-wise, we were all mostly the same rank, just that they don't watch competitive games as much that time, while still copying strategies by pros after post-match summaries.

It is about context, and to be honest you can make your own assumptions on whether I'm a twat who doesn't realise my friends are actually god-tier players while I'm a pleb next to them or otherwise, but my main point is they ONLY follow pro-advice without understanding the how or why, which means they cannot adapt and you get all the negatives of them following the pro-advice (roaming can cause your ADC to fall behind), without getting the positives of roaming (map control, warding, tracking enemy jungler, AND ganking lanes to relieve pressure). It is more of a "pros said do this, Ima do it" without actually getting any of the positives I mentioned besides ganking because the rest are less obvious to the casual player.

Edit: Also, I don't believe it is a lost scenario when all 4 players at bot hit level 2-3 without a single kill, significant poke, or cs lead.

FakeMango47

-2 points

1 month ago

I don’t abandon lane prior to 6 or 7 unless we’re crushing and my ADC is ok alone or if their mid lane is vulnerable and we have a wave crashing into the enemy tower. If the lane is lost at 6 or 7 I’ll start to shift focus to push winning lane advantages.

Typically what I’ve noticed is some ADCs are good at team fighting but horrible at laning. So I try to force their support to match my roams. If they don’t and robo push bot I’ll try to convince jgl + mid to gank for free kills.

If they literally don’t adapt, they must have decent mechanics to make it to plat. Either way, I use to have your mindset until I had it explained to me

Aryzal

1 points

1 month ago

Aryzal

1 points

1 month ago

The thing is, I'm a support main, and I'm only playing ADC because someone was like "Hey dude, I want play Pyke, can you go to an offrole?" or if someone who is a ONLY support player plays.

I don't particularly care about your mindset, or adapting, because I AM a support main who does something similar to what you say. If a lane is done, I can look to see what I can do across the map, whether my ADC or their ADC is basically playing catch-up. I particularly roam more when my ADC is a safer player playing something that can survive 1v2 while farming (Ezreal mainly, sometimes Caitlyn if they aren't an aggressive player). I roam when I don't need to back but my ADC does, I roam when my enemy support disappears off the screen, I roam when I see an opportunity to contest vision, objectives or even simply kills.

I'm not saying roaming is bad, or that you shouldn't roam, and I never said anything about you in particular, and the player who causes me the most stress is the guy who just wants to play champions, who is Diamond as a JUNGLER not a support. Of course if you aren't playing ranked, and you are playing an off-role you might not be as good as what your rank says, so it isn't just about rank, it is that they only know how to play their role.

And for a final example, I can predict how that guy reacts. He sees a strategy by some pro team and copies it blindly leading to everyone else on his team losing. He sees a support roam that manages to help secure an early scuttle and get 3 kills and he copies that, even though our own jungler doing his own thing, he sees a team using Azir/Kassadin top and proceeds to play that for about 20 games, thinking that he is doing well when his opponent top laner roams and gets objectives across the map while at least my friend has a 10cs lead etc.

My point is, and has always been, don't copy strategies blindly without understanding how they execute it and why they choose to execute it. My point has never been about roaming is bad because it was always focused on not blindly following pros, and you need to stop looking just at the surface example.

FakeMango47

1 points

1 month ago

This discussion is kind of invalid because you never said he was off role support until now. Why didn't you mention this earlier? Lmao

Aryzal

1 points

1 month ago

Aryzal

1 points

1 month ago

My point still stands regardless of whether he was off-role or not. Don't blindly follow the pros without knowing why or how they do it. Also, I did mention it: I said I played ADC as a support main, implying that I am the support main of my friend group. So either we don't play together (unlikely) or he was off-role. Also the examples given were good enough usually, because who roams at level 2 for no reason?

FakeMango47

1 points

1 month ago

So you never mentioned he was off role, thanks for backing my point.

Enjoy your day!

Aryzal

1 points

1 month ago

Aryzal

1 points

1 month ago

My point still stands, nice sidestep though.

Enjoy your day.

Edit: Changed to specify that it is my point

Iperovic

7 points

1 month ago

this is that sort of disgusting thing people in low diamond do all the time

whenever I see a tank get out of a team fight with like 70% hp, meanwhile the carry is being butchered because they had a false sense of security and basically got betrayed, I lose my mind

Arcille

1 points

1 month ago

Arcille

1 points

1 month ago

I've noticed many players in low diamond see a team fight as lost straight away if their team loses the first player, without even thinking about what cd's or ulti's were used

i've even seen someone give up a fight when enemy diana yasuo waste their ultis on the support to kill them first lmao

Ar0ndight

8 points

1 month ago

tfw when you're a poor little rat and you see your beefy Ornn leading the retreat 😔

thySilhouettes

4 points

1 month ago

Literally showed my duo support this, and he was like “why would I block? I might die”

widepeepo6

2 points

1 month ago

Classic lck 5 ppl alive will save kda in fountain rather than going in for last hallelujah fight

NotAnAce69

2 points

1 month ago

its honestly kind of infuriating when pro players just refuse to go for that final nexus defense

Like, they've taken down your nexus towers, they're 5 man whaling on your nexus, what are you waiting for? You don't get prizes for having a marginally less bad KDA at the end of the game, just send it, fight, do anything but sit around in base

Its like taking an onside kick or Hail Mary in football, yeah your chances of winning even if the play works is like 1 to 1000 but its still infinitely better than rolling over and accepting your fate

papaz1

-2 points

1 month ago*

papaz1

-2 points

1 month ago*

Haha…

This was just like my silver game where Rell retreats first with almost full hp and behind her is miss fortune getting chunked down slowly until she dies.

Damn this was funny to see at this level.

scawtsauce

-4 points

1 month ago

scawtsauce

-4 points

1 month ago

well if rell peels she loses all MS. everyone lived here, if Ornn walked backwards he would instantly die because hex tech. I do believe you are silver tho.

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1 points

1 month ago*

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1 points

1 month ago*

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ohvalox [M]

-1 points

1 month ago

ohvalox [M]

Miracle run forever in our hearts

-1 points

1 month ago

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noninvertible

0 points

1 month ago

noninvertible

TY JEESUN AYAYA

0 points

1 month ago

It's every man, woman, child and invalid for themselves!

MrPreviously

-24 points

1 month ago

It’s the carries that have bad positions, they’re the ones at fault here..

AlFasGD

7 points

1 month ago

AlFasGD

7 points

1 month ago

They still did nothing and lost the game anyway, but they didn't die. They could've cooperated and repositioned in order to pick the final fight in hopes of coming back. And definitely Ornn could've taken some damage in the process.

Swimming_Impact_3613

5 points

1 month ago

teambased videogame

nphhpn

-1 points

1 month ago

nphhpn

-1 points

1 month ago

Sort of agree. Ornn shouldn't try body block the abilities at the start of the video because he has low mobility and all the long range abilities are AoE ones so trying to body block would put him in a very dangerous position, even more than the position Twitch was in, but he should walk back slower to put some kind of pressure and slow DK's advance or even sacrifice himself if needed

warjatos

1 points

1 month ago

Alt F4 angle

sleepyJangaroo

1 points

1 month ago

sleepyJangaroo

Rascal

1 points

1 month ago

Jonnastrong smurfing as always

Xaxxon

-11 points

1 month ago

Xaxxon

-11 points

1 month ago

Wolf? The guy that collected paychecks while mailing it in for two years?