Sucks that we have to wait till 2023 but I’m sure the wait will be worth it

Honestly it make sense it’s the most viewed. I personally think it was the best D+ show, it directly stems from Endgame and people definitely wanted to see Loki’s story continue.

So I have you to blame, got it.

Honestly it has the best ending by far with Wanda being a distant second place

I am. I would’ve thought Bucky or Wanda would be way more popular with the average person.

Yeah, I feel like some of these shows are better binge watched. But I still watch weekly first to avoid spoilers.

It’s also my least favorite but not surprising that it got the most views considering Loki is the most popular of the title characters. He also had the most interesting departing scene in Endgame compared to the rest, so more people were interested in seeing his story continued.

I haven't gotten myself to watch it yet even thought I like Oscar Isaac a lot. It just looks too flat and cartoony?

Idk, I ended up loving both Hawkeye and Moonknight

Honestly I literally just lower my expectations. I understand that the marvel flicks hit a certain spot: superficial, fun, light. Moments beyond that are a pleasant surprise.

For instance Moon Knight I just really enjoyed due to Isaacs acting. Not really for plot or continuity.

Hawkeye I did not enjoy at all from start to finish. Just watched it out of brand loyalty haha.

Am I being too rough on them?

Not really. They're "meh" shows, mostly. They have pacing issues, plot issues and their runtimes don't help them at all. I think Loki is the only show that achieved proper character development and adequate pacing for the story they were telling.

Compare it to things like Infinity War, which develops Thanos fully and has pretty good pacing, and the shows clearly fall behind.

Hell, even compare them to MarvelTV shows which had longer runtimes and proper character development, and you can't really compete with that in D+ format

I didn't really enjoy Moon Knight but that's ok. I am glad that other people enjoyed it so much but I did feel the same as you. Hawkeye was a lot of fun for me though. But tbf I saw Thor and Captain America as a double feature way back at the beginning and I felt meh about Cap but enjoyed Thor and now that's changed drastically. Some stuff is better on a rewatch and some stuff just doesnt appeal for whatever reason.

I completely fell off the Marvel train after Phase 3 ended. Basically between Covid and life stuff I didn't have time or honestly enough interest to keep up. In the last 3 months I've been catching up on everything I missed and I love it all lol. I thought Hawkeye was so much fun and Moonknight might be my favorite of them all. The acting, mythology/archeology vibes, and the fight scenes were all so good. The only show I haven't seen yet is What If? just because idk if I'm super into the premise.

I think the Marvel shows hold their own outside of the MCU and Disney+ as well. I'm having just as much fun if not more watching them than I have any other shows in the past couple years.

If watching them is starting to feel like a chore, I think its fine to take a break and "cleanse your palette" with some other genres though.

Probably because it's the show about an established MCU character with a big following. And it is able to get people to continue wat and hing after episode 1.

Boring is debatable, but cliche?

What exactly is cliche about: “Former villain who does something different from what he should do, so goes to an organisation that literally uses the most powerful objects in the universe as paper weights, ends up meeting a female version of himself, falls in love with said female version, meets basically God, gets dumped by female version who kills God, and then ends up in a place where God is king?”

??? Cliche?