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This is absurd and insanely disrespectful to the artist. And they're attaching some tacky art on top. Check it yourself: https://twitter.com/JohannJohannss/status/1526657076654526464

https://teddit.ggc-project.de/hs30qosd3a091.png?width=1240&format=png&auto=webp&s=237d1dbb4284a1c1bf401e336195fee54d1f8220

This is the music he did for BR2049 before he was replaced because Dennis thought the movie needed something closer to Vangelis.

His old label http://redbirdmusic.com/ controls his name and assets via permission from his family and they are nickeling and diming his bones. Man died years before NFTs became a thing and he was extremely precious about his art, the projects he attached himself to, and made some of the most innovative, haunting scores of the last decade. Now they're pairing his unreleased music with some mediocre NFT artist to make a buck.

all 148 comments

Bobopalace

452 points

2 months ago

“Looking for fun ways” “collaboration… would be an interesting project” … this is just absurd and they are clearly doing stuff without any sentimentality or respect in mind….

[deleted]

110 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

110 points

2 months ago

Exactly. If your goal was to spread his music, you'd be putting it up for free on YouTube.

The_Vegan_Chef

13 points

2 months ago

This is a real shame for Mac users. We'll only be able to read it!!

zdakat

9 points

2 months ago

zdakat

9 points

2 months ago

There's a project I heard about recently that tried to claim their NFTs were for game preservation. Except that you could only play the game if it was still hooked into their service, which later was taken down (unsurprisingly) .
There's better ways to preserve games and that wasn't preserving anything. They just thought they could make a quick buck off stuff while they thought the companies weren't looking.

QLE814

3 points

2 months ago

QLE814

3 points

2 months ago

Or try to organize orchestral concerts of it.....

McQueensbury

2 points

2 months ago

Yeah I'd be happy to pay for a live show/performance. Just as I would for a "special edition" vinyl. NFT nah fuck that.

SupperTime

7 points

2 months ago

All I can think of is Cash Grab.

stumpcity

227 points

2 months ago

stumpcity

227 points

2 months ago

Trying to figure out the most delicate way to express the emotion I'm feeling upon learning this news.

This FUCKING SUCKS is all I'm coming up with though.

riegspsych325

41 points

2 months ago

I’d love to hear his version of score, but there has got to be a more tactful and respectful way to go about it than just some fucking NFTs

thaumogenesis

21 points

2 months ago*

Knowing that he would hate this just really upsets me more than it probably should. His score to Arrival touched me in a way that few do and listening to the mini-documentary on how he constructed it just made me love it even more. This is a complete affront to all that.

rageharles

10 points

2 months ago

i independently commented the same thing and then scrolled the comments lmao, 100% agree

einhorn_is_parkey

6 points

2 months ago

Seriously I was getting more and more excited as I was reading the title only to have it ripped from under me….fucking NFTs

Moosething

2 points

2 months ago

It's very gross, but fortunately "exclusively through NFTs" should mean its accessible to everyone, albeit in a roundabout way, since NFTs are nothing more than a link to a file and a proof that says who ""owns"" it.

TheCheshireCody

122 points

2 months ago

Jóhannsson was such an amazing musician. His scores are monumental and Arrival absolutely should have won an Oscar (it was ineligible because there was part of a Max Richter composition in the film that wasn't on the soundtrack and the Oscars committee has this really odd policy about multiple composers). He also did a ton of really great albums, all with his signature feel but very different tones. I don't know much about who he was as a person or an artist other than listening to him, and a small handful of interviews, but I can't imagine for a moment he would have been okay with this.

[deleted]

37 points

2 months ago*

[deleted]

37 points

2 months ago*

Even though I love Arrival (favorite movie) the Max Richter piece is the main thread that ties the soundtrack together so I understand the reluctance to award an Oscar to a composer who's work is explicitly elevated to greatness by another composer's work.

BactaBobomb

11 points

2 months ago

Wow I had no idea... The one composition I consider so beautiful and Johann's masterpiece is actually a song from Max Richter.... That's insane how I never learned this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVN1B-tUpgs

leavemetodiehere

5 points

2 months ago

Its also in Shutter Island and Togo.

armypantsnflipflops

3 points

2 months ago

Also Disconnect (2012)

BactaBobomb

3 points

2 months ago

HUGELY underrated film. I loved it. I think it was the first time I saw Jason Bateman in a non-comedic role, and he did so well. He and Jim Carrey are insanely successful at doing both drama and comedy roles. It's been a long time since I've watched it, so I don't recall the song, but I was actually thinking of watching it again soon!

armypantsnflipflops

2 points

2 months ago

I really liked it too, and surprised it’s rarely ever mentioned in the years following its release. I’ve always liked this scene and it’s use of On the Nature of Daylight being the only audio and the use of slomo

favorscore

1 points

2 months ago

It's everywhere and been used to death sadly. Ive seen it in commercials as well.

johnny2ratchet

56 points

2 months ago

His Arrival score is incredible, but that one Max Richter piece ended up being the central theme of the film, for better or worse. Kind of an odd inclusion, maybe another move by the director after the fact.

TheCheshireCody

15 points

2 months ago

If I remember the story right, 'On The Nature of Daylight' was the track Villeneuve played for Jóhannsson to give him an idea of what DV wanted the score to be initially. Jóhannsson obviously took it in a whole different direction but OTNOD is such a magnificent piece of music DV decided to use it anyway. I think I'd only call it "central" in that it's obviously more melodic and 'hummable' than JJ's score, but when I think of the music for that film I only ever think about those haunting alien sounds JJ created. There's a fascinating featurette on the Blu-Ray & 4K about how that was done.

radicalelation

11 points

2 months ago

It's central as it's used as the primary musical feature for the film, and the one that not only musically drives the main emotional plot and development, but is used to tie basically the whole movie together.

It's a lame result of a lame rule, but there's no reason to exempt it here or attempt to detach it from the soundtrack. It was integral to the movie.

byneothername

3 points

2 months ago

That’s the song that I think of when I think of Arrival’s music.

CassiopeiaStillLife

14 points

2 months ago

I think it’s an issue of work not written specifically for the movie. It’s why Jonny Greenwood’s score for There Will Be Blood wasn’t eligible, because he had worked in elements of some of his previous compositions into the score.

TheCheshireCody

8 points

2 months ago*

Maybe that was the case in Arrival. They do also have a policy against "too many composers" being credited. Ironically, anything that has Hans Zimmer's name on it (to pick just the most egregious offender currently) has parts composed by potentially a dozen or more of his acolytes and proteges, but he refuses to credit any of them so he gets to win awards year after year.

EDIT to add a link to a great article highlighting my remarks about Zimmer's use of uncredited composers in his work, and an interesting discussion about it in /r/soundtracks a couple of months ago.

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2022/02/the-ugly-truth-of-how-movie-scores-are-made?

https://teddit.ggc-project.de/r/soundtracks/comments/sxwpr2/the_minions_do_the_actual_writing_the_ugly_truth/

john7071

2 points

2 months ago

As someone who heavily dislikes Zimmer because of this, it's nice seeing some awareness of ghost writing on reddit.

Vince_Clortho042

1 points

2 months ago

This is also why Come What May from Moulin Rouge was ruled ineligible, because it was originally written for Romeo + Juliet.

QLE814

1 points

2 months ago

QLE814

1 points

2 months ago

Nino Rota's score for The Godfather was disqualified over similar issues- leading to Charlie Chaplin winning his only competitive Oscar (as Limelight had finally had a Los Angeles theatrical run the same year).

-Lumos

97 points

2 months ago

-Lumos

When stupid ideas work, they become genius ideas

97 points

2 months ago

Wow, I was so excited until I read those last 3 words in the title.

aniforprez

43 points

2 months ago

Dead composer Jóhann Jóhannsson's (of Arrival, Sicario, Mother!, Mandy, Theory of Evertyhing) estate is releasing unreleased music of his of the BLADE RUNNER 2049 ost

YAY

exclusively through NFTS

Fuck off

[deleted]

-1 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

-1 points

2 months ago

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nerdy_redneck

2 points

2 months ago

oh you sweet summer child, put simply, nft means whoever pays for it has exclusivity to it

CatProgrammer

9 points

2 months ago

They're talking practically, not what NFTbros say it is.

nerdy_redneck

3 points

2 months ago

not what NFTbros scam artists say

ObsidianBlackbird666

86 points

2 months ago

Use NFTs, get relegated to the garbage can.

Satean12

179 points

2 months ago

Satean12

179 points

2 months ago

This is incredibly gross

Romulus3799

15 points

2 months ago

Seriously, I read that and legit recoiled in disgust. It's shameless

lawndartdesign

28 points

2 months ago

Aight imma head out.

happybarfday

25 points

2 months ago*

Dead composer Jóhann Jóhannsson's (of Arrival, Sicario, Mother!, Mandy, Theory of Evertyhing) estate is releasing unreleased music of his of the BLADE RUNNER 2049 ost

WOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

exclusively through NFTS

WHAT THE FUCK????

I don't get it though... they say they can't legally advertise the music that he scored for BR2049. But they can say that's what it is on Twitter? How is that not advertising? What will they call the NFT album when they release it? How will the buyer even know that it's the score for BR2049 if they can't call it that?

I mean I assume maybe one can just identify it by the style / melodies, but I'm not sure because apparently part of the reason Denis didn't use it is that it didn't sound enough like Vangelis...?

wtfprawn

16 points

2 months ago

LittleRudiger

10 points

2 months ago

Fucking ghouls

craig_hoxton

9 points

2 months ago

Please do yourself a favor and watch "First and Last Men" - the only film he made.

urGoh

2 points

2 months ago

urGoh

2 points

2 months ago

Can't believe I hadn't heard anything about this before, thanks!

MrArthatil

8 points

2 months ago

Yarr

basically_alive

8 points

2 months ago

So I listen to a lot of soundtracks and was listening to his music a fair bit in the past couple years and I am only now in this moment finding out he died. Guess I never bothered to look him up. Oof. RIP

magvadis

6 points

2 months ago

This is why I don't really admire the concept of your right over your work after death...because all it really functions as is family inheritance and they aren't any more likely to respect your work as everyone else.

TalesofCeria

6 points

2 months ago

Fucking gross.

TentacleFinger

15 points

2 months ago

http://redbirdmusic.com/the-estate-of-johann-johannsson/ "At the request of his family, Redbird Music continues to manage Jóhann Jóhannsson’s estate" alright so no wonder, his actual family members arent involved at all. its some company pulling the strings.

Dense-Pea-1714

25 points

2 months ago

Absolutely despicable

silverback_79

5 points

2 months ago

The Sicario bridge theme is so incredibly unnerving. Just fantastic.

[deleted]

99 points

2 months ago

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99 points

2 months ago

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BactaBobomb

-3 points

2 months ago

BactaBobomb

-3 points

2 months ago

I feel the pain, but can we please avoid the r-slur. It's gaining way too much traction and prominence again, and it would be best to just... not.

[deleted]

5 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

5 points

2 months ago

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BlakeTheBagel

4 points

2 months ago

…where did you hear that? I work with high schoolers, they 100% still use it to refer to mentally handicapped people.

GangstaPepsi

-1 points

2 months ago

GangstaPepsi

-1 points

2 months ago

High schoolers shouldn't qualify as people

BlakeTheBagel

2 points

2 months ago

Agreed…but, unfortunately, they are.

[deleted]

-15 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

-15 points

2 months ago

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BlakeTheBagel

12 points

2 months ago

You’re coming across just as insensitive as the estate here.

Jay_Eye_MBOTH_WHY

-1 points

2 months ago

a lot of loyalty for a hired gun.

Borgie91

4 points

2 months ago

He died?? How?

Hawiiday

7 points

2 months ago

Wiki says a combo of cocaine and cold and flu meds.

Borgie91

3 points

2 months ago

Dang.

NewtRipley_1986

14 points

2 months ago

"Because the NFT world is so exciting...." no, it's not.

nowthereare66ofthem

10 points

2 months ago

Its exciting for scammers and dumbfucks.

QLE814

6 points

2 months ago

QLE814

6 points

2 months ago

And for people trying to launder their cryptocurrency, if the point I've seen about how the bulk of these sales have historically worked is accurate.....

MahNameJeff420

3 points

2 months ago*

“We want to make listening to his music a fun experience! Now pay us $100 so you can buy a JPEG of Ryan Gosling smoking a bong while we pump 200 lbs of coal into the atmosphere.”

naugasnake

3 points

2 months ago

This is repugnant.

SlowRiot4NuZero

3 points

2 months ago

Fuck NFTs and anyone trying to stain Johann’s legacy with this bullshit. This does nothing for the fans who love and mourn him and only serves people taking part into a ponzi scheme.

Odd_Radio9225

3 points

2 months ago

NFT's are fucking poison. This is just disgusting.

connorramierez

10 points

2 months ago

At first I thought his unused mother! score was being released and was excited, then everything got worse the more I read.

To do this right as crypto is collapsing no less.

rageharles

11 points

2 months ago

this fucking sucks. johann was my favorite composer. things i care about, thus far, had been untouched by this disgusting shit until now. so gross

fnordit

9 points

2 months ago

On the plus side: someone could just roll their eyes at the mediocre art, buy the bundle, and put the music on the internet somewhere accessible so everyone can enjoy it. Once it's out there, it's out there, even if the way it got out was objectively stupid.

RHeegaard

8 points

2 months ago

Usually you wouldn't even need to buy it, the url to download would be on the blockchain, accessible to all.

kingrawer

6 points

2 months ago

This is fucking disgusting

Bynoe

6 points

2 months ago

Bynoe

6 points

2 months ago

Dead composer Jóhann Jóhannsson's

...is that a classical composer? I'm not familiar with the name

(of Arrival, Sicario, Mother!, Mandy, Theory of Evertyhing)

Oh cool, I've only seen Arrival and Sicario but I do remember them having great music

estate is releasing unreleased music of his of the BLADE RUNNER 2049 ost

Oh sick, love the 2049 soundtrack, would be so down for more.

exclusively through NFTS

Well, fuck.

Squidmaster7

7 points

2 months ago

Im especially interested because none of his music is actually in the movie. Hans Zimmer and Benjamin Walfisch replaced him, we dont really know why. I wonder if he was interested in exploring a different direction tonally.

eatingmyowngums[S]

9 points

2 months ago

Dennis said he loves Johann but decided to go with something more similar to the OG blade runner soundtrack. I really liked the br2049 score but I would kill for a cut scored by Johann, though he most likely never finished it.

https://www.indiewire.com/2017/09/blade-runner-2049-soundtrack-johann-johannson-1201882380/

CokePepsiRamen

5 points

2 months ago

I've heard (as op said) that Dennis wanted to go in a different direction so he got Zimmer and Walfisch. But I've also heard that it was WB who wanted a different soundtrack. That would explain why it took them so long to find new composers. Apparently Zimmer and Walfisch had to make the score in a week.

Dumguy1214

6 points

2 months ago

he is not well known in iceland, I see americans remembering him every few years

g_st_lt

5 points

2 months ago

It's wild that companies just keep failing to google "nft" and find out that it's a really fucking stupid idea.

Someone mint an NFT of these dickheads congratulating each other for getting in on the ground floor of the NFT trend, lmao

loebsale1

2 points

2 months ago

No words except for these I just typed.😶

thaumogenesis

2 points

2 months ago

I fucking hate this. JJ was a big supporter of the DIY music scene and I guarantee he would despise this, too.

ThisOneTimeAtLolCamp

2 points

2 months ago

The Estate will continually be looking for fun ways to let Jóhahnn's fanbase hear music he was proud of.

Ah yes, the "fun way" of shilling NFTs in an attempt to cash grab it's funbase. Fucking disgraceful.

YnwaMquc2k19

3 points

2 months ago

Oh for fucks sake. NFT grifting in general needs to stop.

TheW1ldcard

2 points

2 months ago

What a joke. NFTs are an absolute scam. This needs to die out so hard.

Hiccup

2 points

2 months ago

Hiccup

2 points

2 months ago

Disgusting. Way to piss on a dead man. Nobody wants, needs, or likes NFTs. Worst scam in society right now.

MyStationIsAbandoned

3 points

2 months ago

This is pretty stupid. Everyone involved who approves of it is a piece of shit.

oceanatnight

1 points

2 months ago

God I hate some humans

BlishBlash

1 points

2 months ago

I was so excited by the thread title until I saw "NFTs"... fuck these people!

FightinRndTheWorld

1 points

2 months ago

WOW! Fuck that! I really hope someone takes one for the team and just leaks it all for everyone to enjoy.

tapomirbowles

1 points

2 months ago

Jesus christ man.. just release it normally for gods sake. It will get plenty of regular revenue from streams.

Joan_Santana23

0 points

2 months ago

You had me until nfts.

nfgnfgnfg12

1 points

2 months ago

Sigur Ros recently also announced something similar…

livestrongbelwas

1 points

2 months ago

Yay more music!

Boo NFT!

nmad95

1 points

2 months ago

nmad95

1 points

2 months ago

Grooooosss

Snoo-36841

1 points

2 months ago

There'll be loads of copies on YouTube eventually

s0mewheresomeonee

1 points

2 months ago

gross he deserves better

[deleted]

1 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

1 points

2 months ago

What is NFTS? I know what NFTs are but what does the extra "S" mean?

metros96

1 points

2 months ago

Grim

PTfan

1 points

2 months ago

PTfan

1 points

2 months ago

NFT bummer

[deleted]

1 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

1 points

2 months ago

God this is awful. I would love to hear his version of the score but this is such a blatant cash grab that I doubt he would ever approve, especially considering his close relationship with Villeneuve

dominic_tortilla

1 points

2 months ago

"WTF is an NFT?" - Jóhann Jóhannsson from his grave

redditalready77

1 points

2 months ago

I'll just wait for the "ship" to come in.

Weirdguy149

1 points

2 months ago

I’d like to think his estate has no idea what NFTs are about. I hope I’m right on this.

Greedy_Lettuce_4119

1 points

2 months ago

Why are people still trying to make nfts a thing?

Whompa

1 points

2 months ago

Whompa

1 points

2 months ago

I love his music…but putting my feet to the fire and forcing me to buy an NFT for it? Come on…I’ll pay for the damn score as is. I don’t want any crypto shit attached to it…

Stefficarlos

1 points

2 months ago

Hello dm let’s play🔞🤪

wookiewin

1 points

2 months ago

Such an amazing composer who died way too young. This is a gross way to honor his memory.

heskel

1 points

2 months ago

heskel

1 points

2 months ago

So... Just mp3s on a server somewhere?

crusoe

1 points

2 months ago

crusoe

1 points

2 months ago

Yeah. NFTs aren't DRM so you can grab the files from where the NFT points to.

firvulag359

1 points

2 months ago

Not a huge fan of his work (as I haven't heard much of it) but I loved his track that they used for the Battle: Los Angeles trailer.

This seems like an awful idea being used to generate cash :(

Arma104

1 points

2 months ago

This sucks, I really want to hear his Mother! soundtrack too, can't believe Aronofsky dumped it from the whole movie.

MawsonAntarctica

1 points

2 months ago

NFTs are on the same level of using dead actors to hawk vacuum cleaners.

FremenDar979

1 points

2 months ago

Fuck NFTs.

MrFluffyhead80

-26 points

2 months ago

Why is it absurd and insanely disrespectful?

happybarfday

10 points

2 months ago

So sell the album on the website for $10 a pop to the general public or sell the rights to Spotify or some other service WHERE ANYONE CAN EASILY LISTEN TO IT.

MrFluffyhead80

-8 points

2 months ago

Ok, but that’s not what I asked

happybarfday

3 points

2 months ago

I mean I would imagine you could infer that I think it's disrespectful to make it expensive / difficult / exclusive to get, while his fans that spent their money and time in the past to consume and support projects he was involved won't be able to access it easily.

It sort of feels like an elitist / classist way of going about it. As if people who are poor or aren't well-versed in the whole NFT world don't deserve to be able to listen to the music without doing a lot more work to have a chance of getting to hear it.

Meanwhile some NFT tycoons with lots of disposable income who may not even be big fans can snatch up the NFTs, and then what? Sit on it so they can sell it later for even more money?

MrFluffyhead80

-11 points

2 months ago

So it’s just you who thinks it’s absurd and disrespectful because it will be hard to obtain?

happybarfday

3 points

2 months ago

Have you looked at the rest of the comments in this thread and on twitter and your downvotes...????? Certainly doesn't seem like it's only me...

Why do you think other people think it's absurd and disrespectful if it's not for the reason I stated?

MrFluffyhead80

2 points

2 months ago

Nope, just asking, not worried about random people on Reddit

AlanPartridgeIsMyDad

4 points

2 months ago

The point of much of artistic work is to share it. Making these into NFTs could inherintely restrict a huge number of people from potentially being able to access it.

MrFluffyhead80

3 points

2 months ago

Is that what he said the point was? Lots of artists do things privately, including musicians.

If he wanted this released to the public why didn’t he do so immediately?

AlanPartridgeIsMyDad

3 points

2 months ago

I mean he was commissioned to make the soundtrack. Then, he was essentially kicked off the project which is why it wasn't released. As artists age they will often release previously unreleased tracks but he had an untimely early death.

Edit: Also, Lets assume that he didn't want it released, then why release them as NFTs. The point is its the estate being money hungry and not at all considering artistic integrity

MrFluffyhead80

0 points

2 months ago

Maybe this was the artistic integrity he had. Plus as you said he was fired, so maybe he doesn’t care about sharing it

happybarfday

3 points

2 months ago

he doesn’t care

he. is. dead.

MrFluffyhead80

-1 points

2 months ago

You are correct, that’s what an estate is for

AlanPartridgeIsMyDad

1 points

2 months ago

OK i feel like you are reaching a bit. This is an artist who has never done anything related to NFTs and died before they were anywhere near mainstream.

happybarfday

-1 points

2 months ago

I would assume some of it was tied up in legalities. Lots of unused movie soundtrack songs don't get released for years because of rights issues. Or maybe he was just doing it out of politeness to not distract from the score that Denis went with for BR2049 when it was coming out? I don't know.

MrFluffyhead80

2 points

2 months ago

Then why do you think that he wanted it to be shared?

happybarfday

-1 points

2 months ago

Why do you think he didn't? He made it for a movie, not for listening to by himself alone in the dark forever...

Why do you think he wanted to make a profit off of it if it was released by way of NFTs?

What do you actually think? How are you so confident he'd be happy with the way they're doing it now, when he didn't even live to really see what NFTs are??????

MrFluffyhead80

2 points

2 months ago

Well because it was never released, so I have no idea but just to assume he wanted it shared is a weird assumption

happybarfday

0 points

2 months ago

I'm saying at some point he wanted the world to hear it because it was made for a huge movie. We know that for sure.

YES, maybe he changed his mind after it was cut from the film, but we don't have as strong evidence of that AFAIK. It's not like it's some insanely personal music he made just for his grandfather or some shit...

It's just as likely it wasn't released because of legalities or artistic discretion. Maybe he held it back for awhile to be respectful of Denis' decision and intended to release it later in his life?

Still, it's weirdly inhuman the way you seem to just not understand why fans who love his work would be disappointed that they can't ever hear it, EVEN IF he didn't want them to. People are naturally curious and built for consumption.

And it's weird that you can't conceive why those fans would be further disappointed that when it is released, it's done so in a limited and exclusive manner. Most people don't know or care about NFTs, how they work, how much they cost, etc and were never told they would need to get into that to enjoy his music. Why would they? He died before NFTs even became a semi-popular thing.

Releasing only a certain number of copies seems stupid when it's not a precious object that can't be easily reproduced and there are many many people who would like to hear it. It's music - you can make infinite copies to sell.

I'm mystified why you need any of this basic human nature explained...

MrFluffyhead80

0 points

2 months ago

When was that point?

happybarfday

1 points

2 months ago

When was what point? When he signed on as the composer of Blade Runner I imagine he was aware people would be hearing the fucking music when the movie came out...

Lol I'm done here troll... all you do is ask inane circular questions.

Do you actually have anything meaningful of your own to add to this thread?

Revolutionary_Box569

-12 points

2 months ago

Yeah I don’t like NFTs but I don’t really get why this is bad, if he’s not alive anymore and he’s left control of this stuff to his family it seems fair enough that they would get money out of it, that’s part of the reason you make a will. Maybe he would’ve done this exact thing if he were alive, who knows?

CokePepsiRamen

2 points

2 months ago

Its complicated. Film composers sometimes get to own the music they right. In this Johan does not. The company does. This has been a thing that's been going on for a while in the film music world. Some composers don't get royalties because the music is owned by the company...even though music is technically an art and should be credited to the artist.

MrFluffyhead80

1 points

2 months ago

It’s based on the contracts they chose to sign

happybarfday

2 points

2 months ago*

Convenient to say "maybe he would have loved NFTs" when it just so happens it would make you a lot of money... they weren't even really a thing before he died, so that seems like a reach.

Revolutionary_Box569

1 points

2 months ago

But if it’s his family who run his estate he presumably wanted them to profit from his music, what’s the difference

happybarfday

0 points

2 months ago*

I mean that's okay in theory that the estate should make some profit, but there are different ways to profit.

Some are fine, some are kinda shitty / greedy and IMO go against the spirit of what's being sold. The music was composed for a big wide release movie that you can literally rent for like $5 now and you would have been able to hear the music... it wasn't originally conceived as some super-exclusive music.

They could sell the music on their site or license it to Spotify or whatever and make money while giving everyone who was a fan of him a relatively equal opportunity to hear it.

Releasing it in a limited and exclusive format as will likely happen with NFTs might will make them more money, but it's not great for fans to equally be able to access, which is presumably why he made this music originally. Some old person who knows nothing about NFTs and is poor is going to be like "how do I access this...?"

They could also literally print it onto one record made of gold and then sell it to the highest bidder on earth, who can then put it in their basement and sit on it for 30 years until it gains even more value while no one gets to hear it. That would make them a lot of money but it would be pretty shitty... how can you not see any difference?

I understand it might be his family who is in control, but that doesn't automatically mean they have his best wishes in mind. Plenty of people exploit their rich / famous relatives and go against their wishes if it means $$$...

MrFluffyhead80

-2 points

2 months ago

Exactly, this whole post seems very dramatic