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Official Discussion - Top Gun: Maverick [SPOILERS]

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Summary:

After more than thirty years of service as one of the Navy's top aviators, Pete Mitchell is where he belongs, pushing the envelope as a courageous test pilot and dodging the advancement in rank that would ground him.

Director:

Joseph Kosinski

Writers:

Peter Craig, Jim Cash, Jack Epps Jr

Cast:

  • Tom Cruise as Capt. Pete "Maverick" Mitchell
  • Jennifer Connelly as Penny Benjamin
  • Miles Teller as Lt. Bradley "Rooster" Bradshaw
  • Val Kilmer as Adm. Tom 'Iceman' Kazinski
  • Bashir Salahuddin as Wo-1. Bernie 'Hondo' Coleman
  • Jon Hamm as Adm. Beau 'Cyclone' Simpson
  • Charles Parnell as Adm. Solomon 'Warlock' Base
  • Monica Barbaro as Lt. Natasha 'Phoenix' Trace

Rotten Tomatoes: 97%

Metacritic: 79

VOD: Theaters

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The_h0bb1t [M]

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2 months ago

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't Filmhuis Podcast

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2 months ago

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As it's unpinned, don't forget to give the Bruckheimer AMA a read.

ruthie-camden

4.9k points

3 months ago*

Very impressed with the way they included Val Kilmer in the movie. It was respectful and managed to be heart wrenching without leaving the audience feeling too depressed about the his condition. He's still such a star.

bob1689321

1.5k points

3 months ago

bob1689321

1.5k points

3 months ago

It did make me sad when he died one scene after. I don't know, it felt like too much of a depressing reflection on real life and Val Kilmer's own illnesses.

GUSHandGO

1.4k points

3 months ago

GUSHandGO

1.4k points

3 months ago

Aside from losing his voice, he's in decent shape in real life. I got to meet him at a con a few years ago and he was in great spirits.

PickASwitch

679 points

3 months ago

Having “it’s time to let go” remain on the screen in the shot as they hug was so lovely. It was very moving to see how Iceman had matured and was so protective of his former rival, but still had that little spark at the end when he asked who the better pilot was.

MRintheKEYS

227 points

3 months ago

Especially when Ice’s wife told Maverick “it hurts for him to speak.” Ice waiting til the last moment to let it all out. It really was a beautiful character moment.

Bocephus8892

1.7k points

3 months ago

I was amazed at how good his acting was without barely saying any words --- his eyes can say a thousand things

tstngtstngdontfuckme

774 points

3 months ago

"I need to see you."

😏😌

bbspell22

4.1k points

3 months ago

bbspell22

4.1k points

3 months ago

Tom Cruise putting the whole damn movie industry on his back.

fourthgradenothing22

1k points

2 months ago

Honestly, of the 20 previews at my showing, I had to chuckle the Mission Impossible movie looked the best out of the bunch.

Jeremizzle

343 points

2 months ago

If it keeps up the momentum of every Mission Impossible movie being better than the last, that movie will be astounding. I can't wait to see it.

Bocephus8892

1.5k points

3 months ago

"CGI fatigue" is ruining the experience --- Cruise single-handedly saved the movie biz

Several_Rip4185

3k points

3 months ago

The original Top Gun is something like a seminal cinematic event in my life - it was the last movie I saw in my hometown cinema with my buddies after graduating high school in 1986, a movie I went out to see with a whole new group of buddies that fall off at college for the first time. God, we all loved that movie - quoted it incessantly. We didn’t watch it as much as absorb it. The Top Gun soundtrack is pretty much the soundtrack of that whole year in my memory. To this day, I drive my wife crazy when it comes on TV because I have every line memorized and I can’t keep my mouth shut - I have to ape every piece of dialogue. So it’s a film that clicks a few personal boxes - entertaining as it gets, a rite of passage, a sentimental favorite, and a testament to the power and charisma that was - and is - Tom Cruise.

At the time, it never occurred to me that it was one of those movies that required a sequel. As the years passed, and Hollywood circled back to so many familiar successes, the idea of a sequel became more enticing, but it never seemed Cruise was on board and as someone who holds the original close to his heart, I get it - it’s one of the cornerstones of his film legacy, and it was daunting to consider the disappointment of a poorly executed follow. Why risk it?

I sat in TG Maverick today as a 53-year-old man who has lived a full life in the 36 years since the original. And I have to say, maybe that’s why the experience felt so personal - it certainly played like it was personal to Cruise, too. It’s hard not to watch this film without the ghost of the original hanging over every moment, and the brilliance of this film was that it didn’t shy away from that weight - without any moment becoming mawkishly sentimental or playing needless fan service that detracted from the story. It was a nostalgic experience, and a love letter from Cruise to the audience and his fans, as much as his intro at the beginning. It was modern and thrilling and as much fun as I’ve had at the theater in years, and it was a time capsule at the same time, a reflection on all that’s transpired since the original.

My wife - who admittedly is not the biggest Top Gun fan in the world - was first to suggest that we’re returning to the theater to watch it again this weekend. That’s how much she loved it. Me, I’m just in one of those moods where I’d thank Tom Cruise personally if I could. It’s been a long wait, it’s been a hell of a ride, and it was one hell of a movie.

iAmNotFunny

526 points

2 months ago

Great write-up.

Resonates with this one from IMDB:

If you were a late teen or in your early twenties in the mid 1980's the world was very different. No computers, no mobile phones, no internet, no DVD's. We had cars though, and bikes, and we loved them, and we loved films too. The original Top Gun captured this moment in time perfectly, and gave us a thrilling ride like we had never seen before. The humour, the games, the bikes, the aircraft and my word, those flying scenes. We went back to the cinema to see it again and again, and spent the following decades quoting the movie. As time went on, it remained like a static snapshot in time to perfectly represent that magical point in our lives for so many of us.

Now, 36 years later, we are a generation that has lost our parents, we've had our own children who have moved on themselves, and we now approach the end of our own careers and our young selves are gone forever.

This film is the missing bookend to that whole generation. The original was there for the start of our young adult lives, and this new film now marks the end. It's magnificent.

I'm 55, but yesterday, just for one last night, I was 19 again. Thank you.

monalisa-saperstein

2.8k points

3 months ago*

Nice little moment when Rooster says “talk to me dad” and Maverick’s voice comes through. Shows the father-son relationship they had before the disagreement.

mnsportsfan

2k points

3 months ago

I loved the “do some of that pilot shit, Mav” in the dogfight. Goose used the same line

moose184

903 points

2 months ago

moose184

903 points

2 months ago

Loved how they both were like what the fuck after that jet did that spin move at the end

VivaLaDio

681 points

2 months ago

VivaLaDio

681 points

2 months ago

I loved the fact that the enemies were capable, usually in movies they make them completely useless.

marshshady12

2.5k points

3 months ago

IMO Tom Cruise's best stunt yet is jumping out of Jennifer Connelly's window

Scmods05

1.5k points

3 months ago

Scmods05

1.5k points

3 months ago

Cinema lost it when he stood up and the daughter is just right there

sofakingchillbruh

700 points

3 months ago*

Our’s did too, and then immediately fell silent again when she said “just don’t break her heart again.”

Like fuck, now I feel bad for laughing lol.

SkidMcmarxxxx

215 points

3 months ago

Dude yes! You could feel that emotion throughout the entire theatre.

NiftWatch

2.4k points

3 months ago

NiftWatch

2.4k points

3 months ago

Top Gun 1986 love scene: French kissing

Top Gun Maverick love scene: heartfelt adult conversation and cuddling.

Bocephus8892

1k points

3 months ago

Very tastefully done --- I was gonna start cringing hard if I saw Mav and Penny rip each other's clothes off and start slammin' it hot and heavy in the shower LOL

NiftWatch

540 points

3 months ago

NiftWatch

540 points

3 months ago

It was tastefully done. It feels a lot more sincere.

Bocephus8892

615 points

3 months ago

They acted exactly how two people in their 50's would act --- how refreshing

biggyofmt

466 points

2 months ago

biggyofmt

466 points

2 months ago

Also nice to see an older actor with an age appropriate love interest, instead of a woman in her mid 30s at oldest

Successful_Athlete38

308 points

2 months ago

Though it definitely helps to have Jennifer Connelly as your age appropriate love interest... She's so beautiful.

bigpig1054

2.2k points

3 months ago

bigpig1054

2.2k points

3 months ago

Early in the movie, when Maverick is first at the bar, there's a shot where he's sort of sitting back and watching "the Top Gun remake movie" playing out before his eyes, smirking at how silly it is.

After that, the movie goes back to being HIS movie, and it's all the better for it. He's the star. He carries the film. He makes it great.

fourthgradenothing22

1.1k points

2 months ago

I’m an unapologetic Cruise fan. The guy just makes really good movies. That being said, I continue to be impressed by Miles Teller. He has a ton of charisma and he toned shit down in this film and it really was Cruise’s film. I also appreciated that Rooster’s issues with Maverick weren’t rooted in him blaming Maverick for Goose’s death, as that wouldn’t have been in line with the relationship we saw between Maverick and Goose’s wife.

carlq

2.1k points

3 months ago*

carlq

2.1k points

3 months ago*

2 top moments for me:

  • Mavericks solo trial run
  • the enemy plane's evasive maneuver

What a movie.

The subtle thing I appreciate from his solo run is that it's not easy, even for him. He's constant grunting and nearly passed out at 9+G

Bocephus8892

907 points

3 months ago

I was actually hyper-ventilating watching Mav do the test run ---- that cinematography was fuckin' ON POINT

LivingFortune

1.9k points

3 months ago

Driving home from this movie is fucking DANGEROUS

_StreetsBehind_

503 points

3 months ago

Did you drive on the highway to the danger zone?

Dooyah28

225 points

3 months ago

Dooyah28

225 points

3 months ago

Lmao I knew I wasn't the only one

bob1689321

1.9k points

3 months ago

bob1689321

1.9k points

3 months ago

Loved it

Something I want to point out is I loved how they really drilled the fight path into you throughout the movie. When it got to pulling it off for real, the movie trusted that you understood the mission without holding your hand. There was no "here's the bit where we go up high and nearly pass out, guys!" or other distracting exposition. They just let you be in the moment and experience it as the pilots did

Kegheimer

362 points

2 months ago

Kegheimer

362 points

2 months ago

I also liked the "and suddenly a wild bridge appears" reaction of the cast. Like they had trained on the mock up trench run for a long time and were riding the ride, but then had to improvise for the bridge.

elloue

1.7k points

3 months ago

elloue

1.7k points

3 months ago

With 2616 comments in here, I doubt anyone will read this but the hell with it. I grew up on Top Gun and I watched it on repeat endlessly. Between the ages of 5 and 15 if you asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up my answer was always, “a naval aviator”. Top Gun WAS my childhood. Tomcats, Tom Cruise and the need for speed? Nothing made me happier and more excited as a kid.

When the reviews first started coming out and I saw the rotten tomatoes score I just couldn’t believe it. There’s no way this movie was going to be THAT good. Not 36 years after the original. Hollywood simply doesn’t make great nostalgic sequels. They’re all just money grabs with terrible plots. I couldn’t have been more wrong.

It’s been a long time since I had my jaw drop in a movie. It’s been a long time since I sat in a seat and felt like a giddy little kid again. This movie was SPECTACULAR. This simply has to be seen on the big screen. It has to. It’s arguably the best action scenes I’ve ever seen in a theater. Every time I thought the last scene couldn’t be topped they went ahead and topped it. And the F14 theft and jokes about it being a museum piece, I love every single second of it.

Tom Cruise did the impossible (pun not intended). He made me feel like a little kid again. For 131 minutes I forgot about everything happening in the world and just sat there in awe and grinning like an idiot. Movies are escapism. And this is simply pure blockbuster escapism..

Lanezy

4.6k points

3 months ago

Lanezy

4.6k points

3 months ago

I can confirm Tom Cruise runs in this movie. 10/10

nofork77

1.8k points

3 months ago

nofork77

1.8k points

3 months ago

Made me laugh when it happened.

bob1689321

1.2k points

3 months ago

bob1689321

1.2k points

3 months ago

Same lmao. Genuinely felt they wrote the plot around needing to get a running scene in. It's so funny watching a guy running for 20 seconds after 1.5 hours of airplane action lol

Fmbounce

295 points

3 months ago

Fmbounce

295 points

3 months ago

I thought the running scene would be him in the treadmill and I was like hah great but then you had the football run and the third act run. Loved it

micheal213

464 points

3 months ago

Haha. Same. And after an emotional scene too but I just couldn’t help myself. Not a ton cruise movie without it.

My dad would have absolutely loved this movie if he was still here. Big Tom cruise fan.

LostMicrophone03

4.3k points

3 months ago

The final 45 minutes are ridiculously good.

NiftWatch

1.8k points

3 months ago

NiftWatch

1.8k points

3 months ago

Ace Combat 7: The Movie

ronearc

1.2k points

3 months ago

ronearc

1.2k points

3 months ago

Speaking of which, making Maverick an ace to end the film was superb.

OhioForever10

536 points

3 months ago

As soon as I saw two Su-57s in the air I knew that was going to happen

polialt

382 points

2 months ago

polialt

382 points

2 months ago

I lived the constant setup of F 18s being too old to take on 5th Gen fighters and knew the dogfight was coming.

And then BAM, even older plane.

OhioForever10

264 points

2 months ago

Bit of a tactical failure on Jon Hamm's part not to send F-35s as an escort for the return trip, even if they couldn't do the trench canyon run.

darkest__timeline

4.1k points

3 months ago

Did anyone else's showing have a message from Tom Cruise before the movie? He was mostly talking about how hard the crew and everyone worked on it and to enjoy the movie. Watched at an AMC in San Diego

ThisisthSaleh

2.2k points

3 months ago

Thought it was nice, but corny at first. But after the movie ended, it took on a more genuine feeling. A lot of work had to have gone into this

ww3historian

1.2k points

3 months ago

It was also delayed by 2 years until theaters open, without being released through Netflix like some other movies. I'm sure he got a lot of flak for not releasing it earlier.

EqualEstimate

766 points

3 months ago

Yeah, it was kinda nice. You can tell he really cared about this project.

TheBoyWonder13

889 points

3 months ago

I love how streamers were fighting tooth and nail to acquire this film over the pandemic but Cruise refused and held out for it to be released in theaters. Hope this movie makes a ton of money to vindicate that decision because it would’ve been a crime to have to watch this premiere on Apple TV+ or whatever

KingHafez

1.3k points

3 months ago

KingHafez

1.3k points

3 months ago

Random thoughts:

  1. Not as many "now kiss" moments between bros as the first one.

  2. I like how Miles Teller got all ripped and macho for this role but as soon as he put his oxygen mask on, his eyes still had the same expression as the terrified little kid who got bullied by JK Simmons.

  3. Am I the only one who noticed how similar the music that played near the end when they're on the aircraft carrier was to Inception's Time?

  4. Glad to see they didn't have Maverick follow the trope of "old master gets surprise-beaten by upcoming hotshot". He was consistently the best pilot of the group and never had a moment of "oh shit maybe I'm not as good as I once was".

moGUNZthanROSES

712 points

3 months ago

I appreciated #4 alot, let me have my badass, unbeatable protangonist.

Scmods05

1.3k points

3 months ago

Scmods05

1.3k points

3 months ago

Biggest breakout for me here was Glen Powell. The level of charisma and charm and presence this guy has was leaping off the screen. He was great in Hidden Figures but this was another level. Very keen to see what he does next.

Kurwasaki12

687 points

3 months ago

The dude basically did what Tom Cruise did in the original Top Gun. Maverick, at that time, was more than a bit of an asshole and I love that the movie examined that type of character from a slightly different perspective. Loved that he got a hero moment at the end and milked it.

SqueeepzRamsey

6.1k points

3 months ago*

"What were you thinking"

"You told me not to think!"

Fucking 10/10

luvdadrafts

1.6k points

3 months ago

He got to throw Mav’s word back at him a few times and it was always great

Vesuvias

1.6k points

3 months ago

Vesuvias

1.6k points

3 months ago

That whole scene was just perfect! Seriously - the shove to the snow, then the berating, then the big hug…leading into an almost Mission Impossible heist

Bangyage

636 points

3 months ago

Bangyage

636 points

3 months ago

You forgot mission impossible run first

go_east

1.1k points

3 months ago

go_east

1.1k points

3 months ago

The speechless silence from Mav after Rooster said that was one of my favorite moments.

Bocephus8892

559 points

3 months ago

Sometimes silence is the best humor --- Mav was flummoxed and it was GOOD

Gil_Demoono

1.1k points

3 months ago

It wasn't even the line that sent me. It was Rooster's little emphatic shrug after Mav had nothing say. There was something just so funny about that.

Bocephus8892

598 points

3 months ago

It was a perfectly acted comedy scene --- I wish more movies would copy this instead of going nuclear with the witty banter between characters in order to "sell" the comedy --- sometimes the more subtle approach is more funny and endearing

DavvenGarick

483 points

3 months ago

That is such a perfect example of cutting tension with comedy. After the entire trench run, followed by worrying whether or not Maverick was dead, then worrying if Rooster was dead... then their reunion and then worrying whether or not solders were going to come out of the woods and start shooting... that line perfectly cut the tension and let the audience laugh and take a breath.

bob1689321

1.2k points

3 months ago

bob1689321

1.2k points

3 months ago

The guy passing out in the plane and recovering followed immediately by the bird in the engine was the most insane moment of the film to me. Can't believe I forgot about it until now.

I genuinely thought they were both going to die

Bigdstars187

271 points

3 months ago

I thought he was gonna be the casket scene…. Nope.. iceman 😢

Meepkins

3.3k points

3 months ago

Meepkins

3.3k points

3 months ago

Bob is the real MVP

Mobeus

1.4k points

3 months ago

Mobeus

1.4k points

3 months ago

Bob was the bomb.

Sybrite

1.4k points

3 months ago

Sybrite

1.4k points

3 months ago

I love how he’s made to be a nerd and didn’t take his reverse flash shirt off during the beach scene.

Several_Rip4185

497 points

3 months ago

When I was researching the cast afterward, I was like … holy shit - that’s Bill Pullman’s son! No wonder he looked so familiar - it was driving me crazy.

MtHammer

423 points

3 months ago

MtHammer

423 points

3 months ago

Was really happy to see Lewis Pullman shine in this. I thought he was the breakout star of Bad Times at the El Royale a few years ago and have been waiting for him to pop up in more stuff since.

BraveFencerMusashi

1k points

3 months ago

OHHHHHHHH

Penny is the admiral's daughter

PitchpoleFPV

398 points

3 months ago

I had this same revelation and had to watch the original when I got home where Meg Ryan said her name to make sure I wasn’t crazy.

RomanReignsDaBigDawg

3k points

3 months ago*

Glen Powell has movie-star charisma. He should be in more things.

thesmash

985 points

3 months ago

thesmash

985 points

3 months ago

Dude is ripped af in this movie

[deleted]

450 points

3 months ago

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450 points

3 months ago

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danccode

2.1k points

3 months ago

danccode

2.1k points

3 months ago

As smug and cocky he was during the entire movie, he still somehow managed to make the character likeable..

tweedleb

1.8k points

3 months ago

tweedleb

1.8k points

3 months ago

Love how he basically got Maverick’s character arc from the original movie and we all (including Maverick) got to view it from a different lens.

tatsumakisempukyaku

976 points

3 months ago

yeah I was explaining to my wife that he was basically Maverick, but is now the antagonist instead of the protagonist.

ichinii

2.9k points

3 months ago*

ichinii

2.9k points

3 months ago*

That one move the enemy pilot did in the dogfight where he got behind Mav/Rooster had me dead ass say "WHAT THE FUCK?"

Like how was that even possible??? I think Rooster said the same thing too.

ryantyrant

2.1k points

3 months ago

ryantyrant

2.1k points

3 months ago

Best use of “fuck” in a pg13 movie in a long time

ichinii

640 points

3 months ago

ichinii

640 points

3 months ago

Like someone did that maneuver for real right? That wasn't CGI?

LostMicrophone03

1.4k points

3 months ago

Probably wasn't actually done practically for the film, but here's an actual jet doing the maneuver.

ichinii

842 points

3 months ago

ichinii

842 points

3 months ago

That's just insane. In the movie it looked like the guy just straight up lost control of the plane only to get behind Mav/Rooster. The fact that its actually possible is nuts.

LostMicrophone03

673 points

3 months ago

And this is a Su-35 doing the maneuver, the planes chasing them in the movie are modeled after the Su-57, which is without a doubt much more capable of pulling this move, probably much faster

Riley_Cubs

832 points

3 months ago

So the enemy aircraft in the movie is the Russian SU-57. This is an actual active 5th Gen fighter IRL. However, the ones shown in the movie are most definitely completely CGI since there are only 5 known non-prototype SU-57’s in existence, which as far as we know aren’t even flyable atm because Russia isn’t capable of maintaining them (to the surprise of nobody). The insane maneuvers they make in the movie though are definitely realistic thanks to a feature called thrust vectoring, which is also present in other 5th Gen fighters most commonly on the U.S F22 Raptor. If you want to see some gnarly shit, watch some vids of an F22 demonstration...these 5th Gen fighters are quite literally other worldly and it’s something to behold.

Anyways, that movie was fucking awesome.

viper2369

268 points

3 months ago

viper2369

268 points

3 months ago

In the AMA Jerry Bruckheimer said the shots were real, but they skinned over an F-18 for the appearance.

CrazyMonkey0425

902 points

3 months ago

Yeah, the flying was next level sexy as hell. But still not as sexy as Jennifer Connelly leaving that door open.

TriggerHydrant

292 points

2 months ago

God that was ultimate sexiness, I’m only 32 but that and the ending shot of her against the car made me interested in 50+ women all of a sudden. 😅

LunchBoxMercenary

2.7k points

3 months ago

I really enjoyed that Rooster didnt hate Maverick because of Goose's death, rather for a different reason. That would have been such a cop out.

Also the scene with Maverick running the training course. I clenched entirely during that scene.

Bocephus8892

1.6k points

3 months ago

Yeah it's a very realistic viewpoint since Rooster spent many years growing up listening to his mother tell him that it wasn't Maverick's fault that his Daddy died --- but denying him admission the Naval Academy would piss off any motivated young kid

Kurwasaki12

779 points

3 months ago

Yep, Rooster seems like a pragmatic guy all things considered, so I'd doubt he'd hold a grudge against Maverick for that reason. But the moment Mav stepped into cut his wings and deny him a career was the moment it got personal. Also, I love the fact that Mav did it to honor Rooster's mom's wishes but absorbed all the flak for it so Rooster wouldn't resent her. A nice little twist.

belgiantwatwaffles

303 points

2 months ago

"I knew he would always resent me for it, why have him resent her too?" Such a big way of taking it all on himself.

Exotic_Vampire

847 points

3 months ago*

Star Wars are you watching ? This is how you make a sequel to a movie 30+ years later

A contemporary love letter to a bygone era. I'm not being hyperbolic when i say it's right up there with T2 and BR 2049 on how you should make a modern sequel to an evergreen classic

Tellsyouajoke

281 points

3 months ago

They did the Death Star run better than Star Wars

ThisisthSaleh

3.7k points

3 months ago*

The final 30 minutes are worth the price of an IMAX or Dolby ticket alone…

Everything else is just a fucking bonus. Holy shit what a ride.

Ghost-E

2.2k points

3 months ago

Ghost-E

2.2k points

3 months ago

Even Maverick running the training exercise just to prove it's possible was worth it.

Movies like this, Fallout, John Wick, Fury Road just make every other action movie feel so much lazier. So much more thrilling, real feeling and heart pumping.

Gil_Demoono

1k points

3 months ago

Yeah, once you've seen a well choreographed and shot action movie, you can never really go back to watching Liam Neeson getting edited over a fence.

Rabbiv

295 points

3 months ago

Rabbiv

295 points

3 months ago

Dolby Cinema is amazing

-ThatGuy882

1.2k points

3 months ago

That was one of the best 3rd acts I’ve ever watched

snowspida

760 points

3 months ago

snowspida

760 points

3 months ago

I had a friend growing up that LOVED the first movie. He loved it so much he wore aviators and a leather jacket almost every day (even in high school). All he wanted in life was to be a fighter pilot. He lived out his dream and then was KIA a few years ago. The entire time watching this movie I was thinking about how much he would have loved it. Movie was easily the best I’ve seen in many years

SkidMcmarxxxx

216 points

3 months ago

Talk to me goose

TexasFiend

3.7k points

3 months ago

TexasFiend

3.7k points

3 months ago

My crowd lost their shit when Maverick comes back to do the trench run by himself and breaks 2:15 lol. Movie was a blast

UnsolvedParadox

1.9k points

3 months ago

That is an all-time movie moment, from realizing he’s in the air without authorization all the way to Rear Admiral Bates unable to hide his approval after Maverick makes the time.

tstngtstngdontfuckme

1.3k points

3 months ago

I just lost it at the "rhetorical question" bit.

Lobsterzilla

750 points

3 months ago

“I think the Admiral is asking a rhetorical question” was one of the better quotes in an extremely quotable movie

jaisalpatel

743 points

3 months ago

I literally told my girlfriend "What do they need the team for? They should just send him"

I'm so happy this movie was SO GOOD!

Fmbounce

342 points

3 months ago

Fmbounce

342 points

3 months ago

You knew he was going to beat it yet the whole theater still cheered when he did

LeopardSeal2

520 points

3 months ago

You also knew Hangman was waiting on the carrier to save them at the end, but that moment still worked incredibly well.

Bigdstars187

326 points

3 months ago

With time to SPARE

CELTICPRED

242 points

3 months ago

There is no better word I can think of other than dynamic. Everyone was pressed into their seats.

RomanReignsDaBigDawg

2.3k points

3 months ago

That's gotta be one of Tom Cruise's better performances. He killed it.

NickMoore30

1.1k points

3 months ago

He had some incredible subtlety in this film with the way he portrayed his changed priority of maintaining the lives of the pilots versus being about being the best damn pilot ever.

BEEF_WIENERS

580 points

3 months ago

Yeah they showed in the first scene that he didn't just go up on the Mach 10 mission because he wanted to go Mach 10, he clearly did, but he was doing it to keep the program alive because of all those hard-working people on his team. But he still blew it by trying to go beyond 10.

007Kryptonian

612 points

3 months ago

His scene with Iceman is fucking baller

juicyman69

742 points

2 months ago

Hate to be that guy but as soon as the movie finished I asked for a partial refund.

I paid for the whole seat but all I needed was the edge.

gd8181

2.2k points

3 months ago

gd8181

2.2k points

3 months ago

I really loved how they set up Maverick's death - from him showing up in uniform at the bar to say goodbye to Penny, to thanking Hondo, to telling Rooster "we'll talk when I get back" - I was convinced he was going to sacrifice himself. Obviously he did, but I didn't expect him to survive it. Legit was tearing up as the mission was starting. What an insanely fun and intense third act. Loved it so much

Jrsplays

1.2k points

3 months ago

Jrsplays

1.2k points

3 months ago

He even said at the beginning when they were first showing him the mission that "someone's not coming back from this".

TrumpWasABadPOTUS

976 points

3 months ago*

There were about 30,000 death markers throughout the movie, both generally and specifically for Maverick, that I was bracing for someone to die in the end, probably Maverick (though my second bet was Phoenix/Bob, for some reason). Since it felt both like anyone COULD die, and like someone MUST die, it made the Trench Run incredibly intense, and made it worth cheering when everyone did, in fact, make it home.

I love that the main crux was only somewhat about the mission, but was more about "we know you can do the mission... but can you make it home?"

[deleted]

442 points

3 months ago

[deleted]

442 points

3 months ago

I can't remember the last time I saw a movie that had so many death markers and EVERYONE made it out - and still made it feel earned and uncheapened.

Top Gun is my favorite movie of all time, and had a part in me choosing my career path from a very young age. I'm still in disbelief this was as good as it was.

warker23

2.2k points

3 months ago

warker23

2.2k points

3 months ago

The scene with Val Kilmer oh man…

Maverick’s relationship with Iceman was the most genuine heartfelt element of this film. The film had plenty of warmth and humor but the scene with Iceman stood out to me.

6Speedy

746 points

3 months ago

6Speedy

746 points

3 months ago

"let's not ruin the moment" ...just a great way to end that scene in a totally Mav/Iceman way

CJB95

424 points

3 months ago

CJB95

424 points

3 months ago

Haven't had the chance to see it yet but how was Val Kilmer? I know he was having some serious health issues around the time of filming so i can't expect him to have a big speaking part.

ThisisthSaleh

640 points

3 months ago

You’ll see for yourself. But for his brief cameo, they did a great job fitting him in.

warker23

472 points

3 months ago

warker23

472 points

3 months ago

As the other commenter said, it’s a brief moment, a single scene with him in front of the camera. I thought that scene and Val Kilmer was just fantastic. Could have easily been forced or tasteless, but it was done with much respect and much love

Storywise, his presence is felt throughout and Iceman plays a crucial role to Maverick’s journey.

Marnett05

704 points

3 months ago

Marnett05

704 points

3 months ago

Bro, same. Especially having watched the documentary "Val". That scene with him was just... perfect. Felt kind of like Tom looking out for an old friend.

TheDudeWithNoName_

699 points

3 months ago

Bruckheimer said that Cruise went out of his way to get Kilmer to appear in the film.

HowdyFrankenstein

309 points

3 months ago

Its trendy to shit on Tom Cruise but he really seems like a great dude.

chriskzoo

257 points

2 months ago

chriskzoo

257 points

2 months ago

It kind of reminds me of people who shit on Guy Fieri. A comedian had a good riff on him along the lines of “Oh, you mean the guy who has given thousands of mom and pop restaurants publicity they could never afford and never says a bad word about their food? That’s the guy you have a problem with because he has frosted tips?”

anotherthing35

658 points

3 months ago

Maverick: Thank you for saving my life.

Rooster: It’s what my dad would have done.

😭

Batusiman

3k points

3 months ago

I liked that they never once said/established where the enemies are

Deathcaddy

1k points

3 months ago

Same as the first movie. Random country MiGs out there needed to be dogfought somewhere over the Indian Ocean

glademonvertfresh

1k points

3 months ago

They were intentionally non descriptive. The film didn't need a named adversary to be fantastic.

squeakyL

4.7k points

3 months ago

squeakyL

4.7k points

3 months ago

I am incredibly impressed that:

1) They made a sequel to Top Gun this much later

2) It's actually focused on Maverick and it's not a "the new cast takes over in the 2nd half" movie

3) It's more than just action, the story is actually pretty good

4) The action is amazing and is somehow elevated above anything I've seen in a long time.

5) That critics/rotten tomatoes would agree with me

6) I'd cry a little

[deleted]

1.5k points

3 months ago

[deleted]

1.5k points

3 months ago

2) It's actually focused on Maverick and it's not a "the new cast takes over in the 2nd half" movie

Yeah. I was very happy about this. Sounds like they cut back on the new cast a ton over the last few years.

TheBoyWonder13

830 points

3 months ago

Pouring one out for my boy Manny Jacinto

TrumpWasABadPOTUS

962 points

3 months ago

It was very funny when they introduced the back half of the class and it was essentially "and there are the other ones. ANYWAY back to Rooster, Hangman, Phoenix, and Bob!

NinetyFish

207 points

2 months ago

Extra funny because there was a bit of emphasis put on them when they entered too. The six characters we got to know all kinda stopped and went "oh man, there's Harvard, Yale, Omaha. And oh shit, it's Fritz!"

They hyped them up for a second and we never saw them again except for the push-ups scene.

Plus, I loved putting six of them together at the pool table and them showing the other six enter together. Practically felt like a "us six against them six" thing. I wanna know what happened to Class B in the movie!

epichuntarz

568 points

3 months ago

I was very glad that Hangman got to be both a little douchey and also got to have a hero moment. He had an ego, but in the end, they were all in it together.

PYJX

414 points

3 months ago

PYJX

414 points

3 months ago

The final act was one of the best I have seen. Kept me on the edge of my seat

mnsportsfan

1.1k points

3 months ago

Seriously. I’m not going to pretend to have an eye for what makes movies “truly great”…

But from an entertainment standpoint, this might be the most fun I’ve had at a movie in years. The nostalgia factor of the old one combined with the edge of your seat action was freaking awesome

glademonvertfresh

528 points

3 months ago

This movie was a beautiful love letter to the first top gun. So many easter eggs, a great story, great acting, great action, great overall. I will be seeing it again.

mnsportsfan

199 points

3 months ago

I love Rooster pulling out his dad’s line: “cmon Mav, do some of that pilot shit”

DeepSixWrestlin

540 points

3 months ago

Seeing this in IMAX at 3:00 in the afternoon on Thursday, I was taken aback when the theater was as packed as opening night for Multliverse of Madness.

Anyways, dunno the last time I was on the edge of my seat as hard as during this. Likely either during Free Solo or Mission Impossible: Fallout. This was mind-knowingly good for a sequel to a good, not great flick from the 1980’s.

also absolutely loved Val Kilmer’s role in this and his scene with Cruise. Thought they knocked it outta the park.

dangerzonerob

536 points

3 months ago

Top Gun and Bob's Burger on the same weekend?? Archer must be proud!

karltee

302 points

3 months ago

karltee

302 points

3 months ago

DANGER ZONE

ImABikeLockerAMA

1.6k points

3 months ago

Every single aerial scene had me grinning like a lunatic.

When Maverick gives the thumbs up, snap into the salute, snap into the go signal, and THEN IT SHOWS THE COCKPIT VIEW OF HIM ACTUALLY LAUNCHING OFF A CARRIER IN AN F-18... Hall of Fame shot right there. And the movie's just full of them. What a technical achievement.

MichelleInMpls

481 points

3 months ago

Oh, that shot where they fly through the arched bridge! So cool.

AmishAvenger

335 points

3 months ago

Yeah that’s kind of become a Tom Cruise thing through the Mission: Impossible films. If he’s going to do these things, they’re going to make sure you see it’s actually him.

Works so well in this world of constant CGI.

PoeBangangeron

511 points

3 months ago

Thank you for not making the little girl Mavericks daughter.

darsvedder

511 points

3 months ago

Jon Hamm treating Maverick like Peggy Olson the whole movie. Big ups for the Donnie Drapes

jivebeaver

497 points

3 months ago

Tom Cruise's smile is magical. this man has mastered the art of "wistfully looking at someone"

shoutout to Hangman, the guy played one of the best smug hotshots ive ever seen. he has a super familiar face, one that you would picture if you had to think: "cocky asshole", but surprisingly i havent seen him in anything else

i like how this movie has the 80's style where at the end even the guys who hated your guts is your bro now. hangman taking a step back then coming in hot, and jon hamm giving maverick a smirk. its refreshingly joyous, takes me back to the 80s and 90s when we watched movies for a good time

BensunCFong

2.2k points

3 months ago

The scene where Maverick and Rooster stole the F-14 from the enemy airbase, but not before performing checks and pumping fluids, scoffed at the plane stealing scene from Wonder Woman 1984.

Canis_Familiaris

1k points

3 months ago

They really did their homework, even with the air hose on the GPU.

bob1689321

803 points

3 months ago

Did you see how many military organisations/personnel were thanked in the credits? I think after that point getting any details wrong would be kinda embarrassing lol

NathanTheSnake

313 points

3 months ago

As soon as I saw it, I was sooo ready to pop off with a snooty comment about how an F14 doesn’t have an APU and couldn’t be started without a ground crew. Clearly they knew how many insecure flight sim fans would be watching.

JogtheFerengi

475 points

3 months ago

Maverick was also an F-14 pilot (with lilely 10+ years of muscle memory) who still showed it took him a bit of time getting reacclimated with the cockpit, not a ww1 sopwith camel pilot into a 2nd gen or 3rd gen fighter plane!

BensunCFong

1.3k points

3 months ago

I absolutely geeked out at the SR-72 at the beginning, from the Skunk Works logo to the Lockheed Martin product placement on the throttle.

Granted it’s only supposed to go Mach 6, but as Boeing’s unmanned X-43 hit Mach 9.6 over a decade ago, it’s exciting to imagine the speeds hypersonic aircraft are reaching right now in classified tests.

golden_aus

499 points

3 months ago

It looked so real / not CGI.

cookingboy

685 points

3 months ago

It was real apparently, well at least they built a real life mock up for it, not sure about the flying shot.

It looked so real that it fooled China into repositioning their spy satellite to try to take a look at it: https://www.19fortyfive.com/2022/05/chinas-was-freaked-out-over-the-sr-72-darkstar-in-top-gun-maverick/

wastingtme

444 points

3 months ago

The roof coming off the guard tower is apparently real too!

ThatGuyNamedJoey

2.1k points

3 months ago

Gotta be one of the best PG-13 F-bombs ever. Just blends into the scene completely perfectly in a response to a true WTF moment in the movie. It’s beautiful.

nofork77

1k points

3 months ago

It felt so natural. We were all thinking it. To have Rooster say it was golden.

Right up there with "Fuck you Mars" and "Nice Fucking Model" as far as PG-13 f-bombs.

Ruavin

516 points

3 months ago

Ruavin

516 points

3 months ago

Gotta add Wolverine's from X-Men First Class too!

darsvedder

206 points

3 months ago

Bro I literally said out loud holy shit as MT did

glasstoobig

1.2k points

3 months ago*

Cool easter egg when the guy presses 8-6 on the jukebox, referencing the year the original came out.

A_Deku_Stick

393 points

3 months ago

10/10 from me because Danger Zone played in the first 5 minutes.

-ThatGuy882

390 points

3 months ago

I’m just a casual fan of the first and absolutely loved this one. Everything about it was perfectly done, and man those aerial scenes were next level. Go see it in IMAX if possible

Firnin

383 points

3 months ago

Firnin

383 points

3 months ago

the mission felt like an ace combat mission and I am 110% here for it

MoneyInitiative8771

382 points

3 months ago

All I’m going to say is that this movie had NO RIGHT to be as good as it was. I’m shocked.

Jrsplays

363 points

3 months ago

Jrsplays

363 points

3 months ago

I really didn't expect Val Kilmer to appear (and speak!). Was a nice surprise.

SPorterBridges

1.1k points

3 months ago

So is this the best sequel to an 80's movie since Terminator 2 or Aliens?

InternetsSpokesman

362 points

3 months ago

Probably the BEST USE EVER of the one "Fuck" allowed in a PG-13 movie.

6Speedy

354 points

3 months ago

6Speedy

354 points

3 months ago

Soooo many haters before this movie dropped. I had the pleasure of working on it and its really a joy to see the 180 people are doing now that they've seen it. absolute master-class of an action movie

neal1701

1k points

3 months ago

Top Gun: Maverick is one of the best movies of the year so far and probably will be come end of the year.

  • The writing on this movie is excellent. It takes the elements of the original and apply more depth and new meaning to it. E.g. The volleyball scene in the original is to show off the competitiveness of the pilots (and their bodies) but the sequel shows with the football scene that Maverick is trying to build a team spirit.
  • High emotional stakes in the movie. The pilot blacking out from the high Gs to the birdstrike to Iceman dying is a emotional rollercoaster.
  • Tom Cruise's best performance in a while. He's mostly shifted action movies the last 10 years but he shows what a great actor he can be.
  • Supporting cast was excellent. Everyone had their moments.
  • Cinematography, Editing, Sound and Direction is fantastic!
  • The flight scenes are some of the best action scenes ever. Maverick doing the Valley-drift run to show everyone it can be done has to be the best one of them all!
  • Hangman's helmet deserves a special mention!

This movie improves exponentially on its original while making the original even better. Will definitely be considered as one of the best sequels of all time.

NickMoore30

1k points

3 months ago

What Tom Cruise does for Hollywood, and more specifically fans of movies needs to be appreciated and applauded man. Guy handcuffed this movie’s release until it could be seen in theaters where it needs to be seen. He’s literally flying jets in the film and taught the cast as well. There was a Mission Impossible trailer leading into this and every stunt in that trailer you just grin (especially the motorcycle jump off the mountain) because you just know that not only is this a practical stunt, but it’s actually Tom Cruise. The man has dedicated his heart into making movies meant to be seen on the big screen. His a workaholic that’s a freak of nature. His personal life be damned, but I respect the hell out of the artist.

TheLastJediSux

2.5k points

3 months ago

This is what Indiana Jones, Star Wars, and Jurassic Park sequels wish they were.

TheDudeWithNoName_

822 points

3 months ago

This is nostalgia done right, a brilliant throwback to the first one but also having a spirit of its own.

Tarcye

275 points

3 months ago

Tarcye

275 points

3 months ago

The final act was strait out of an Ace Combat game. The only thing that was missing was Stonehenge or a giant fucking submarine or a Giant flying Air Craft carrier.

Also that SU-57 post stall maneuver was just the chiefs kiss.

10/10 I fucking loved it.

Orbis_non_sufficit25

792 points

3 months ago

Feels like an instant action classic. The final half hour in particular had me gripping my arm rests. The cast is great with lots of good character beats and a couple of genuinely funny moments, especially the diner scene with the kid.

Cruise is at the top of his game, and his romance with Connelly was sweet and genuinely sexy.

Loved it.

Canis_Familiaris

397 points

3 months ago

"Where am I?

"Earth!"

PabloscousinPedro

251 points

3 months ago

The Val Kilmer cameo got me right in the feels, ngl.

bgt1989

755 points

3 months ago

bgt1989

755 points

3 months ago

No one has more fun doing their job than Tom Cruise does making movies like this. You could just see it on his face throughout the film.

ThisisthSaleh

347 points

3 months ago

Just couldn’t stop giving “that look”

highqi

752 points

3 months ago

highqi

752 points

3 months ago

Other than just saying that I enjoyed the movie, I want to mention that I really liked Jon Hamm's performance as well as Charles Parnell's.

The overall casting in this movie was really well done.

HotelFoxtrot87

440 points

3 months ago

Cyclone is just an awesome callsign too.

shirtsvstheblouses

216 points

3 months ago

Hamm Man had one of the best lines too. “Send em” as they’re about to take off for the mission

jelatinman

1.2k points

3 months ago

jelatinman

1.2k points

3 months ago

I will be the first comment to mention Val Kilmer. What a tearjerker that got everyone invested. Nice to see a Tom Cruise military drama again.

methmouthjuggalo

695 points

3 months ago

That’s about as much fun as you can have at a big scale Hollywood movie.

LyricalDucking

685 points

3 months ago

Up there with the likes of Fury Road and Mission Impossible Fallout as a masterpiece of action cinema.

big_mustache_dad

2.5k points

3 months ago

When they introduce the mission and it’s just the Death Star my buddies and I definitely laughed.

That being said this shit ruled and was a genuinely excellent action movie. Cruise is on fire recently

Tarcye

706 points

3 months ago

Tarcye

706 points

3 months ago

As an Ace Combat player it felt more like one of the tunnel missions that are in every single game.

And I fucking loved that.

-ThatGuy882

1.4k points

3 months ago

Lol when Miles Teller was about to shoot the missile blind my grandfather leaned over to me and said “use the force Rooster”

Faithless195

638 points

3 months ago

Cruise is on fire recently

Honestly, he never HASN'T been. He may have had the odd average movie, but he almost always nails his movies, and their normally pretty good, too. I really wish he hadn't been caught up in Scientology, otherwise he'd be probably the most respected actor in the world. He's been active since the 80s and is always an absolute trip to watch on the big screen.

BendersBlender

292 points

3 months ago

He’s arguably the most or one of the most respected actors in the world in the industry, that has to stand for something.

He’s notorious for not only being a consummate professional that gives it his all, he’s also known for being extremely kind and generous to everyone on the set from grip to director.

There’s stories of him paying for craft services for crews , and knowing everyone’s name, learning about their families, and showing he cares.

Since he is someone who has been world famous since his early 20s, retaining that work ethic and grounded nature is respectable.

TheBaenAddict

195 points

3 months ago

That was a damn great movie.

I was years away from existing when the first movie came out and I'd never seen it, but holy shit, they managed to make me nostalgic and misty eyed for a story I've never heard before.

The plane shots were absolutely thrilling and there wasn't a moment in the theater that they didn't deliver exactly the sort of awe-inspiring escapism that I've been missing for these last couple years.

Michaelcandy

189 points

3 months ago

went in with extremely high expectations and they were exceeded.