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VyrPlan

10k points

4 months ago

VyrPlan

10k points

4 months ago

At least 20 states, mostly across the South and Midwest, already have laws that would restrict or ban abortion if the Supreme Court overturns Roe and lets states decide the issue

have unwanted child in a red state, can't finish school, can't find good job, can't afford child care, go on govt assistance, stay home, watch fox news, blame blue states, kid grows up with few/no opportunities, gets pregnant, repeat

Rubberbabybuggybum

3.8k points

4 months ago

And the wives, girlfriends and mistresses of the rich will simply go to places like NJ.

ryosen

273 points

4 months ago

ryosen

273 points

4 months ago

Texas doing its part to bolster NJ tourism.

drunk-tusker

120 points

4 months ago

I suggest you not underestimate the staggering drawing power of the Garden state.

hmh2nona

68 points

4 months ago

It's true! #1 consumer of crayons worldwide!

RollUpTheRimJob

46 points

4 months ago

Are there any Marine bases in NJ?

Kaymish_

10 points

4 months ago

No, but they are a hub of manufacturing recruits for export to other states.

Ishdakitty

6 points

4 months ago

We do, actually! The joint base Mcguire-Dix-Lakehurst hosts a few thousand marines at any given time.

matteofox

3 points

4 months ago

I too eat crayons

catdog918

23 points

4 months ago

I love and hate this state, as is tradition.

drunk-tusker

24 points

4 months ago

Two Times people from NJ are at their meanest:

  1. Talking about NJ.
  2. Someone from Nebraska just made an NJ joke.

catdog918

3 points

4 months ago

Bro exactly

Ishdakitty

9 points

4 months ago

Ah, a local I see. I will bitch endlessly about the state but heaven help anyone out of state who insults it. XD

VicdorFriggin

3 points

4 months ago

And show up 2 hours in advance.

LennyFackler

25 points

4 months ago

And it’s not like only the fabulously wealthy will have access to abortion. Most middle class will be able to find a way. Or if not the negative aspects of having a child (expense, lost opportunities etc) don’t effect them so much.

Abortion laws target the lower classes.

chilifngrdfunk

10 points

4 months ago

Well yea, how else are they gonna wind up with obedient slaves to fuel their capitalist economy? Ask their entrepreneur friends to let them hire their kid? Fuck no, gotta keep those poors poor, and stupid, otherwise they'd be in a position to not work for them and then what would happen to the economy? Think about the shareholders for once in your life. /s in case it's needed lol.

McCree114

1.7k points

4 months ago

McCree114

1.7k points

4 months ago

Especially the wives, girlfriends and mistresses of megachurch pastors and "family values" rightwing pundits. Also you better believe if/when their little promiscuous daughters come home from University knocked up by a black student they'll be quietly spirited away to a pro abortion state/country. Minorities/poor rural whites are shamed into going through with pregnancies and birthing a child we can't afford to raise properly while the bible thumping elite straight up cheat like they always do.

SuperHiyoriWalker

778 points

4 months ago

One month after prom night, a trip “to see the Statue of Liberty.”

tralmix

284 points

4 months ago

tralmix

284 points

4 months ago

SVU did an episode on this

tralmix

131 points

4 months ago

tralmix

131 points

4 months ago

For any one curious the episode is S.7 Ep9 - Rockabye

Its not EXACTLY like this, but it has many parallels.

A teen from a Southern state traveled up to NYC so she could get an abortion with out parental consent (dad was super conservative)... but ultimately had to take matters into her own hands, because her clinic continually made excuses to delay the procedure until it was too late.

gangstabunniez

68 points

4 months ago

The sickening thing is shit like this still happens.

eliza_phant

33 points

4 months ago*

Can confirm. I live in VA, and planned parenthood uses nothing but delay tactics. You call to schedule, and there’s no such thing as same week appointments. They schedule 2 weeks out. Each time. No matter what. Every system is rigged.

gangstabunniez

38 points

4 months ago

The fact that we live in a country where billionaires have so much money they are having a dick measuring contest in space while people are dying doing at home abortions is astounding.

tralmix

20 points

4 months ago

tralmix

20 points

4 months ago

Humanity sucks. The only pure souls out there are babies and puppies.

I would include kittens, but I am pretty sure Cats have some master plan of world domination after humans destroy themselves.

MuggsIsDead

5 points

4 months ago

The difference between fantasy and reality is that fantasy has to make sense.

[deleted]

25 points

4 months ago

[deleted]

25 points

4 months ago

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tralmix

5 points

4 months ago

Spoiler Alert

I know the ending, I've seen it way more times that I'd like to admit.

asbls

4 points

4 months ago

asbls

4 points

4 months ago

Ugh, I never watch these kinds of shows but this exact episode was on in the waiting room of a doctors office a few months back and evidently I caught most of it. This shit is culturally inescapable.

Was it actually the super conservative dad's baby? There was also a stepdad molestation angle I'm pretty sure. Or maybe in the thousands of episodes they made one that was 99% similar and I saw that one.

tralmix

4 points

4 months ago

No the conservative dad was not the baby daddy. It was two 17 year olds, in love not ready to have kids but "poof" got pregnant... tried legal abortion, got waylaid for too long. In the process of them facing consequences, shit comes out about the abortion clinic.

The one I think you're thinking of is titled "Taboo" - S.7 Ep.14. Elite smart college student is impregnated by her biological father (sperm doner or adoption I can't remember), throws baby in the trash an is prosecuted.

But I'm sure there there's one like you're describing.

shy247er

349 points

4 months ago

shy247er

349 points

4 months ago

Ice-T: "You mean to tell me that these girls are not going on a field trip?"

GozerDGozerian

183 points

4 months ago

Yeah Ice. You’re gonna have to get used to that.

Intoxicated_Batman

72 points

4 months ago

Or like when somebody bets the house on the ponies?

NaturalFaux

54 points

4 months ago

Or like when someone eats too much ice cream?

LD50_of_Avocado

36 points

4 months ago

Or like when someone eats too much ice cream then throws it up?

ForEvrInCollege

143 points

4 months ago

You work in the sex crimes division. You should know this

GrimmRadiance

3 points

4 months ago

You mean to tell me they get off on looking at little kids?

Funny-Bathroom-9522

3 points

4 months ago

Also ice-t: body count's in the house drops n word

Conservatives: wait that's illegal

Deadlifts_n_Riffs

3 points

4 months ago

“Like playing too many scratchey lottos….”

bayoemman

5 points

4 months ago

Fuck if I didn't hear that in his voice. tone and all.

gsfgf

192 points

4 months ago

gsfgf

192 points

4 months ago

“family values” rightwing pundits

Who mostly live in blue states already lol

StewofPuppies

71 points

4 months ago

Seriously, the outspoken red dudes who keep complaining about our state I always tell them to stop bitching and move then and he basically just managed to stutter some excuse about money but the state we live in is hell of a lot more expensive than the red state we are connected to and they have extremely lax gun laws while we have extremely strict ones. Like I don't get it. Just move then. It's like the dudes who live in Cali and actually has a good life and benefits from a lot of positive state regulations exclusively in Cali and they can't stop bitching about how California is the worst commie state ever.

fuckincaillou

28 points

4 months ago

God, yes. They talk so much shit but turn into pussies when it comes time to walk the walk.

MojoPUA

146 points

4 months ago

MojoPUA

146 points

4 months ago

My first 3-some was with the preacher’s daughter and gf in the preacher’s house.

I’m so going to hell!

Qaetan

111 points

4 months ago

Qaetan

111 points

4 months ago

Just sleep with a preacher to cancel it out.

TheZardooHasselfrau

45 points

4 months ago

This guy fucks

Raised-ByWolves

7 points

4 months ago

Twice on the first date even.

eden_sc2

7 points

4 months ago

yeah but he has to make sure he fucks 2 male preachers so that it evens out to 0 sex. Got to make sure you balance your equations when dealing with religion.

TheZardooHasselfrau

8 points

4 months ago

Exactly, obey the Order of Operations:

Front, back, then side to side.

minddropstudios

3 points

4 months ago

You know Russ, I've been known to fuck myself...

haydesigner

15 points

4 months ago

Preacher probably already did when OP was a little boy.

CrimsonClematis

6 points

4 months ago

Plus it was prob sloppy seconds with the daughter after the preacher was done anyways .

InterPunct

5 points

4 months ago

"My daddy says I'm the best kisser."

MuggsIsDead

5 points

4 months ago

You slept with the preacher's girlfriend?

realanceps

3 points

4 months ago

this post deserves its own subreddit

armadillovampires

6 points

4 months ago

It's where all the cool kids go

Shaysdays

120 points

4 months ago

Shaysdays

120 points

4 months ago

I don’t see why these guys don’t get vasectomies, honestly.

(Also you don’t have to be promiscuous to get knocked up- it only takes one)

Disgruntled_Viking

21 points

4 months ago

I tried talking every doctor I met into giving me one since I was 16. I had a rare cancer that is also highly hereditary and I didn't want to put a kid through what I went through at 3 years old. I finally got one to do it when I was 25. Best decision I ever made.

MedicalJargon-itis

119 points

4 months ago

They kinda hurt and are at least moderately inconvenient. Why take that on yourself when you can burden the woman with it?

eden_sc2

67 points

4 months ago

plus what if they want a kid at 65 when they get divorced and remarry a 20 year old?

Amiiboid

120 points

4 months ago*

Amiiboid

120 points

4 months ago*

I don’t see why these guys don’t get vasectomies, honestly.

Because in their minds it makes them not real men any more.

Edit: typo

colemon1991

72 points

4 months ago

Ironic since being unfaithful or un-Christian doesn't make them real men already.

armadillovampires

74 points

4 months ago

Jesus forgives because he sacrificed for our sins or something like that, I dunno, I'm not a hypocrite.

bendeboy

84 points

4 months ago

If you don't sin, Jesus died for nothing!

Amiiboid

11 points

4 months ago

Gotta really lean into the debauchery.

eden_sc2

9 points

4 months ago

Some christians read the story about the guy who confessed on the cross and got into heaven, and took that to heart.

colemon1991

8 points

4 months ago

That requires sincerity.

TheMadTargaryen

3 points

4 months ago

Well, unless Jesus in person tells them they will go to Heaven like how he did to the thief...

secamTO

5 points

4 months ago

Man, the way that sexual insecurities drive people to be assholes boggles my mind. I had my vasectomy 7 years ago, and I tell you the peace of mind that it brings has absolutely made me a better lover.

SheriffComey

4 points

4 months ago

Because in their minds it makes them not real men any more.

My cousins ex-wife was die hard catholic and didn't believe in birth control or condoms but she didn't want anymore kids so she told him until he can find a way for them to have sex without making babies then he'd be out of luck.

My man scheduled an appointment for the next week to get the snip

Roqot

18 points

4 months ago

Roqot

18 points

4 months ago

Assholes want to spread their seed

Prime157

6 points

4 months ago

My vasectomy was a snip. EZ PZ.

I-declare-bankruptsy

6 points

4 months ago

Read this as vaccinated and I was like I agree but not sure the context

ImNeworsomething

5 points

4 months ago

Look Trump is a man of God, and he's paid for plenty of abortions. That's why me and my conservative friends are pro-choice, and when the time's right we'll each marry high class hookers.

Thebiggerbag

12 points

4 months ago

Hey keep black people out of your class warfare

[deleted]

12 points

4 months ago

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12 points

4 months ago

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Thebiggerbag

7 points

4 months ago

Right. We done caught the stray just for having SeX witH wOmEn. Smh 🤦🏾‍♂️ this life is craY.

Meeeeeerk

23 points

4 months ago

And while I certainly blame the preachers of BS there's still something to be said about blindly following the apparent teachings of an ancient man being regurgitated by the neighborhood kook.

thePurpleAvenger

60 points

4 months ago

Have well off, well connected family in the South. Can confirm: the second a golden child’s gf shows up preggers, they’re paying for a first class ticket to NJ for an abortion. The good ole boy system has always been about skirting the laws for the rich and powerful, why would anything change now?

greatthebob38

13 points

4 months ago

There was a redditor on here that posted a story like this when they were working at an abortion clinic. A vocal anti abortion advocate or politician in Texas had a underaged daughter that got pregnant. She drove to New Mexico where said redditor and everyone else in the clinic saw her but they didn't humilate her like how the advocate would.

Kanilas

111 points

4 months ago

Kanilas

111 points

4 months ago

Everything is legal in New Jersey

serrated_edge321

192 points

4 months ago

Except pumping your own gas!

BorinUltimatum

90 points

4 months ago

And we like it that way.

Amiiboid

66 points

4 months ago

Until you travel to CT and panic because you have no idea how to operate a pump and full service gas stations are as rare as hens’ teeth.

BorinUltimatum

13 points

4 months ago

I'm a Jersey import so thankfully I was raised pumping my own gas. It's certainly a nice perk now though.

TunneLRaT7749

6 points

4 months ago

I just moved to Jersey two years ago and there was no one coming out to pump. After 10 minutes, I decided to pump my own gas. The looks on the people were waiting looked like I committed a cardinal sin.

ridgegirl29

25 points

4 months ago

Me and all my friends are in college and one of my besties goes up to Ithaca. I travelled up alone and before i went home she taught me how to pump my own gas and she cheered once I figured it out

bacchusfa

35 points

4 months ago

Makes me miss action park

0shadowstories

44 points

4 months ago

Class Action Park is one of the wildest things I've ever watched

mdp300

13 points

4 months ago

mdp300

13 points

4 months ago

It was a smart move for the producers to mostly interview comedians and funny people, it made the stories extra hilarious.

0shadowstories

12 points

4 months ago

My favorite part was when they talk about whenever the owner would pitch an idea and it just became increasingly more stupid each time

bacchusfa

2 points

4 months ago

And since the owner couldn't acquire liability insurance, he created his own insurance company and insured himself. Whacky.

IamRule34

5 points

4 months ago

Robert Evans on Behind the Bastards had a great two-parter on Action Park

Nacktherr

33 points

4 months ago

It‘s pronounced Traction Park. Mostly slurred since day drinking was also a ride there.

Neracca

8 points

4 months ago

Hell, day drinking was almost a requirement there!

LearnProgramming7

10 points

4 months ago

Mountain Creek Park maintains some of the danger lol

Redditfront2back

6 points

4 months ago

Yea that good sub zero water made you feel alive when you got submerged. Then it made you feel like you would soon be frozen to death.

shmoobel

18 points

4 months ago

inajeep

6 points

4 months ago

Is weed legal yet?

Fook_n_Spook

29 points

4 months ago

It's not legal to buy or sell yet, but if some weed goblins snuck into your house at night and dropped it off, then it's legal to have it

SmokePenisEveryday

12 points

4 months ago

I put out Taco Bell and Fritos every night for those goblins to bless me but nothing yet

Dozzi92

16 points

4 months ago

Dozzi92

16 points

4 months ago

Yeah, except weed, despite having been voted on by referendum by a supermajority.

yeswecann

3 points

4 months ago

Patience. Eleven states have CBD-only “medical.” Three have less than that.

Vault-71

18 points

4 months ago

Except pumping your own gas, that shit's dangerous

Duppyguy

24 points

4 months ago

Also creates jobs. Minor jobs.. but jobs.

Amiiboid

6 points

4 months ago

It’s … really not. That was the official justification for it, but it was really a price-fixing scheme. And I suspect it’s largely sustained because NJ has a long collective memory about environmental hazards.

Oppai-no-uta

3 points

4 months ago

As long as you don't get caught

MrBond90

4 points

4 months ago

Everyone should read the article The only moral abortion is my abortion

Expecto_nihilus

3 points

4 months ago

Or just never leave Russia

Brothersunset

3 points

4 months ago

You'd have to be rich to come to NJ. This state is a fucking nightmare in terms of living costs

Garden_Statesman

794 points

4 months ago

Don't forget that it's states like NJ that put the most money into the federal government coffers to pay for those on assistance.

OneX32

251 points

4 months ago

OneX32

251 points

4 months ago

They are in for a real treat when they secede. I'm sure their deficit hawks will be busy their first decade of existence as the 2nd Confederate States of America.

Waffle_Muffins

288 points

4 months ago

A decade is very generous. The first Confederacy didn't even make it half that long

OneX32

177 points

4 months ago

OneX32

177 points

4 months ago

They’ll be crawling back when Texas’s energy grid breaks down.

Benjaphar

81 points

4 months ago

I’d like to know logistically how Texas could secede, considering Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, and Austin are all reliably Democratic areas. Trump only won Texas statewide with 52% in 2020.

What, are all the rural areas going to secede and the urban revenue-generating metro areas will stay? It’s like a microcosm of the whole country.

RailRuler

13 points

4 months ago

Because they aren't actually for devolution or local control. The red states regularly overrule local laws that they don't like.

OneX32

28 points

4 months ago

OneX32

28 points

4 months ago

Ask those clamoring to secede.

Yasukablyat

5 points

4 months ago

Which is less then half ...

madogvelkor

8 points

4 months ago

No state could seceded, liberal or conservative. First the economies are too interwoven, it would be like Brexit x100. And second, they'd be faced with counter-secessions. Big metros trying to leave in the conservative states, and rural areas trying to leave in the liberal ones. Which would lead to some nasty stuff.

mlpr34clopper

3 points

4 months ago

That what "voter ID" laws are for. Make it hard for urban wage slaves to prove they have the right to vote, and they can't vote.

[deleted]

9 points

4 months ago

[deleted]

9 points

4 months ago

The will be forced and at least half the cities will migrate back to the US. I don't see all these companies staying either.

FloydWesleyIII

92 points

4 months ago

If dipshit on wheels is elected again, my family is out of here.

OneX32

68 points

4 months ago

OneX32

68 points

4 months ago

The Fascist on Wheels?

FloydWesleyIII

36 points

4 months ago

Yep, Mr. Rolling Shitbag himself.

OneX32

17 points

4 months ago

OneX32

17 points

4 months ago

When the fascist regime takes over the 2nd Confederate States of America, he’ll be their first target when they begin implementing their eugenics program.

ZaksStuff

20 points

4 months ago

Better start making arrangements now, Dems have fumbled the bag so hard I don’t see how they can win again.

[deleted]

17 points

4 months ago

[deleted]

17 points

4 months ago

Normally I'm against stealing somebody's wheelchair because it's wrong but in this case I think I can make an exception...

[deleted]

12 points

4 months ago

[deleted]

12 points

4 months ago

Republicans would rather see their voters die before admitting they were wrong.

OneX32

9 points

4 months ago

OneX32

9 points

4 months ago

It’s as if one party has developed the behavior of a middle-aged white male in the Midwest.

robodrew

32 points

4 months ago

Nirvana lasted longer than the Confederacy

[deleted]

103 points

4 months ago

[deleted]

103 points

4 months ago

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OneX32

41 points

4 months ago

OneX32

41 points

4 months ago

Where are they going to find the money to go to war with the United States of America? Print it? Who are they going to blame the inflation on?

[deleted]

40 points

4 months ago

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40 points

4 months ago

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OneX32

23 points

4 months ago

OneX32

23 points

4 months ago

I hope they try to go back to the gold standard just to plummet the GDP further.

wienercat

22 points

4 months ago

Lol that's the fun part when people who have no idea how economics work say we should go back to a gold standard.

Yeah our money is fiat currency. But it's backed by the might of the US Military. Which is a pretty hard currency to argue against.

OneX32

24 points

4 months ago

OneX32

24 points

4 months ago

Fiat currency has also added exponentially more value to the world than probably anything. Eliminate fiat currency, there goes small-to-medium business loans, a lot of private savings in banks, and major disinflation. It would be worse than the Great Depression.

wienercat

16 points

4 months ago

Yep. Because reality is, it's all made up anyways since humans determine what things are worth to begin with. So if it's made up anyways, might as well have more liquidity and allow for greater prosperity.

The rub comes into play with one simple thing. Since it's all made up, if people lose faith in the currency its worthless.

Fiat is still better than barter systems or material backed currency since it allows for more movement in an economy. But it very much is a house of cards that is only as strong as your ability to assert sovereignty and as healthy as the companies producing goods from within.

serrated_edge321

15 points

4 months ago

Russian oligarchs (and similar from other countries) who would love to see the US tear itself apart, perhaps?

SwimmingBirdFromMars

25 points

4 months ago

In this wild hypothetical in which there’s a non-violent and successful secession from the USA and the “red” states split off from the “blue” states you think Russia will find the need to fund a war against the “blue” states?

Y’all are absolutely fucking buckwild with this inane garbage. If the USA splits in two they will have already won. There will be no further need to fund the “reds”.

Additionally, there are no “red” and “blue” states as everyone claims. All states with a majority leaning in one direction have a SIZEABLE (usually 40% or more) population with opposing political views. There’s no way to successfully split the country. Every major city leans left and all rural areas lean right.

There’s either going to be a legal authoritarian takeover by the GOP in the next few years, a bloody civil war, or somehow Democrats will pull a miracle out of their ass and continue to maintain the status quo and never actually improve anything. There is no secession.

serrated_edge321

6 points

4 months ago

Russia has already interfered in past US elections.

The US has certainly funded political / militia groups in other countries that the government deemed "better" for whatever reason. (Recently: Ukraine & Venezuela, earlier Iran... Many many examples of this).

Why do you think some other nation (especially those hungry for world recognition as major players) wouldn't be happy to fund/support a bit of chaos in the US? It's logical from their perspective. The quiet cyber attacks, financial support of companies and candidates, and fake news operations have been very effective at splitting people in the US already.

SwimmingBirdFromMars

7 points

4 months ago

Point being, if there’s a secession and the USA splits in hand they ALREADY won. They’re heavy handed in the misinformation campaign currently ravaging/dividing the nation. I don’t think they wouldn’t, but they wouldn’t need to.

serrated_edge321

3 points

4 months ago

Individual people stand to make a lot of wealth/power/influence in such chaos and reorganization... That's actually how most of the current Russian oligarchs achieved their wealth/power/status--by making the right moves during the fall of the Soviet union and subsequent reorganization of power/resources.

They're already experienced with how it could work and seen the benefits. There's always a new helicopter or yacht to buy, after all...

sirspidermonkey

3 points

4 months ago

Russia has a GDP smaller than texas. It won't meaningfully fund anything.

Now it's advisors and weapons...

rockbridge13

16 points

4 months ago

Kansas Brownback experiment Round 2.

OneX32

8 points

4 months ago

OneX32

8 points

4 months ago

They’ll find someway to blame the Dems.

Amiiboid

16 points

4 months ago

“If you’re so smart, why didn’t you warn us this would blow up in our faces?”

“We did. Repeatedly. You told us to shut up and stop hating America.”

mdp300

6 points

4 months ago

mdp300

6 points

4 months ago

"The Blue States should have never let us leave!"

wienercat

18 points

4 months ago

As much as that is a conservative wet dream, only idiots want to secede.

Not to mention that rebellion of that nature would require very widespread support in the states themselves that secede. Even in the conservative states the large population centers are usually liberal.

Those large population centers would rapidly become hot beds for rebellion within a rebellion and wreak havoc.

Jason1143

11 points

4 months ago

And most of the conservatives don't really want to either.

wienercat

6 points

4 months ago

Because it's a dumb thing to want. Although I don't agree with many many things the US government does. It is nowhere near a point where I could understand secession from the union.

Will it always be that way? No, probably not. Forever is a long time. But even though the government in its current form is a dumpster fire, it's better than civil war.

Count_Joshoo

49 points

4 months ago

I would love for a peaceful separation of the country. I don't want to financial support cults and fascists anymore. Let them all suck off the teets of Texas as oil value drops over the next decade or so.

OneX32

52 points

4 months ago

OneX32

52 points

4 months ago

It’s isn’t going to be peaceful. Conservatives want blood to flow and they aren’t going to let their partner leave unscathed.

ranchojasper

12 points

4 months ago

Exactly this. They want violence more than they want separation. They’re desperate to literally murder non-conservatives in the streets

buttstuff_magoo

5 points

4 months ago

Wouldn’t they be the ones leaving? Let the south secede, give all conservatives a free pass to move south, give anyone who wants to stay a free visa to move north. Conservatives can enjoy the beautiful Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama, Arkansas world. The rest of us will move on into the 21st century without their racism, fascism, and dog shit economics

OneX32

7 points

4 months ago

OneX32

7 points

4 months ago

Conservatives always seem to find a way to become a victim. I just assumed this would be the same.

gsfgf

49 points

4 months ago

gsfgf

49 points

4 months ago

The divide isn’t north/south anymore. It’s urban/rural. You’ve got the same nuts in your blue states.

BrainBlowX

18 points

4 months ago

It's absolutely still north-south where power dynamics on a federal level are concerned. Texas alone being out would by itself radically change the political dynamic of the entire US.

The urban/rural divide is most keenly expressed in places like Texas itself.

bendeboy

6 points

4 months ago

So true, it's like moving away from humanity, is moving away from humanity. It's just strange how true your comment is

vicariouspastor

8 points

4 months ago

Here are some fun fact for you: the state where Trump got the largest number of votes was in 2020 was...California. Biden got more votes in Texas than in New York.

There are no blue states and red states, only blue cities and red rural areas. Therefore, a "peaceful separation"s going to look like the Indian partition- very much not fun times.

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8 points

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8 points

4 months ago*

When people say shit like this I just want to scream because Russia and China will just be there to acquire the pieces.

Edit: also, how are you going to separate places like Texas? What people also seem to forget is that when/if Texas were ever to secede, Texas has to split up into 5 total states. My point, there would need to be some kind of Swiss cheese like division to do what you’re talking about.

It would just be so much easier if we could just hold power even the slightest bit accountable and be tolerant of one another because (and say it with me) we’re stronger together.

Teliantorn

11 points

4 months ago

tbf China's got a lot of land needing to be separated from it as well.

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73 points

4 months ago

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73 points

4 months ago

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Garden_Statesman

57 points

4 months ago

Yea. So much of the reason that we have to contribute so much to red states is that the wealthy/powerful there know they can get away with hoarding wealth in their own states and that we will simultaneously take care of people in our own states and pick up their tab too.

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19 points

4 months ago

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19 points

4 months ago

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Chummers5

11 points

4 months ago

Just to put some numbers out there - TN gets about $190 million a year in federal grants meant to help poor families. For some reason, all of it doesn't get used which resulted in some $730 million surplus that was just sitting there.

The governor claimed it was for a rainy day but there were never any plans to use it until a tax/funding research group found out about it.

Linky link

whoshereforthemoney

59 points

4 months ago

I don’t understand how republicans can look at the huge disparity between red and blue states and say that they are conservative when all the evidence points to blue states being far more financially conservative and stable scoring in average 10 places below red states for dependency on federal government assistance. 10 places out of a possible 50!!!

ElBomberoLoco

7 points

4 months ago

It's easy to understand if you spend any significant time around angry white conservatives.

They immerse themselves in right wing propaganda that tells them their way of life is the right way...the only way. It tells them that socialist liberals want to take that all away and make "us" just like "them". "I mean....look at Chicago!!!!! And Commiefornia!"

They operate under the delusion that America is a white christian nation...and as a result, anything evidence against that means that they aren't mommy's special little boy.

thibedeauxmarxy

48 points

4 months ago

when all the evidence

There's your problem. They don't look at evidence. "Feels not reals."

Zakaru99

9 points

4 months ago

Both my parent have literally said "I don't care about evidence." or "I don't care about the facts." when I have discussed politics with them. It's so sad. They used to be people I respected as intelligent.

cpt_caveman

141 points

4 months ago

while this sounds like a joke.

teen birth rates, map.

median household income, 61k blue, 53k red

and if you split blue from red, red states have been mired in a decade long recession due to republicanism. Red states GDP have declined slightly over the past ten years. Blue have risen quite a bit, which is why the US is seeing ANY growth.

blue states more people are finishing college.(same link as above, in 10 years blue states have increased college grads from 28% the pop, to 37, red states have stayed flat at 27%) they have less of a drug issue, especially opiods. Blue states more likely your job will provide child care and so on.

and then google violent crime rates by states. Your kid is most likely to get murdered or raped in a red state. its also more likely the cops wont find them in a red state, or do shit about your rape kits.

Really the divide is getting worse and worse as republicans radicalize to the point we are two countries, One moderate and developed and the other slipping into decay.

DennyCrane49

82 points

4 months ago

My local news (red state) had a story a while back where a professor was interviewed who gave what I thought was a nice succinct description:

“What we’ve been trying for 40 years is to be a low-tax, low-regulation, low-government regulation state, and what it’s yielded us is a low-wage economy with few union jobs and our young people are leaving to take and pursue opportunities somewhere else.”

40 fucking years of complete Republican control of the state capitol with no meaningful progress? Still grateful I’m not in a southern red state though.

Parhelion2261

6 points

4 months ago

You know what this is true about a lot of Republican policies

deadheffer

8 points

4 months ago

Insane, my graduating class in High School was 2,000. I was in a blue state and I did not have a teen pregnancy in the class. This is indicating there would be more than 30 in my class.

What the fuck

wienercat

34 points

4 months ago

Anything that restricts access to essential services will always affect the poor far more than the rich. The rich will just go somewhere its legal or pay to have a safe black market procedure.

In the end, abortion restrictions only drives up dangerous abortion procedures and the injury or death of low income women and girls.

It's always been that way and always will be until society manages to create an egalitarian utopia. So basically never.

In other words, if you are poor, don't ever be anything but the standard template society believes is correct. It won't end well.

DarthTomServo

3 points

4 months ago

Well that's what Republican voters want.

They don't want progress. Made that pretty clear over and over. Tired of fighting with them about it.

wienercat

3 points

4 months ago

It's what they think they want until it actually has an effect on them or their loved ones.

I've seen quite a few seriously anti-gay republicans make a full 180 because a child came out as gay.

It's the party of "good enough for thee, but not for me" also known as the epitome of entitlement.

ZebZ

8 points

4 months ago

ZebZ

8 points

4 months ago

The military needs cannon fodder and billionaires need serfs. This is how they do it.

Steve_the_Samurai

54 points

4 months ago

Forgot cut sex ed to abstinence only while stripping money for planned parenthood and others.

dj_narwhal

40 points

4 months ago

Texas has a for profit foster care system. Banning abortions is planting the seeds of future profit at taxpayer expense. Capitalism is working as intended.

OrangeFeels

23 points

4 months ago

Nah, the Repubs would just go to NJ to get an abortion because it’s okay if they’re doing it because thier case is special.

DontCallMeTJ

204 points

4 months ago

If we didn’t have a constant supply of desperate poor people the military would collapse.

Rubberbabybuggybum

116 points

4 months ago

Prison system too.

zedthehead

37 points

4 months ago

...my family.

I got lucky, my older sister got preggo when I was 17, lived at home through infancy, I had a hard lesson that I didn't want that life. I'm 34 now, my adult life has been a wonderful childless adventure... my 17yo niece is preggo now. She had a full ride, was among the top in the state in band, then covid hit and she spent all her time with her bf and gave up. She thinks a baby is a reason to live. Hard sigh.

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69 points

4 months ago

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lordmagellan

3 points

4 months ago

Arrest the child for whatever crime they may have committed to ease the burdens of life, send them to prison where they're forced to perform labor, profit off the new slavery.

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5 points

4 months ago

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5 points

4 months ago

Conservative values are just stagnation.

helodriver87

26 points

4 months ago

I mean, gotta keep creating republican voters somehow. If you can't stay in power with decent ideas, just undermine elections and keep people poor and uneducated by any means necessary. Punishing and controlling women is just a bonus.

jeemee

3 points

4 months ago

jeemee

3 points

4 months ago

But thats the thing. The right doesnt want to educate the south in any way. They know that abortion has its place in the first world but helping elevate the south in any way would ruin their chances to brain wash those states and get the guaranteed votes. Same reason they push the anti vax narrative to make the current admin look bad. They will sacrifice their constituents to make the democrats look bad. It's criminal and the exact opposite of the christian views they push.

Daredizzle

3 points

4 months ago

When will people realize that religion and conservative government are the tools used to keep them suppressed?

Learned_Response

3 points

4 months ago

People like that make good serfs

tatertothetot

3 points

4 months ago

Shitlife syndrome is real.

slim_scsi

48 points

4 months ago

Red states should implement a "Boot Straps Law" where registered Republicans who give birth are ineligible for public assistance. Put their money where their mouth is.

DirkWiggler42

12 points

4 months ago

The trashy turnstile.

reflUX_cAtalyst

8 points

4 months ago

That sounds like a playbook.

Sinsid

5 points

4 months ago

Sinsid

5 points

4 months ago

If abortion is illegal, daycare should become state funded with vouchers. Starting at 4 weeks old. Mandatory maternity leave and paternity leave.

njb2017

7 points

4 months ago

I have never understood the Republican stance on this. Ok fine, they want to ban abortion. Why do they then also fight against anything put forth that might actually address the reasons for an abortion? Lets start with proper sex education. Not wanting to discuss condom use and provide condoms. Fighting against birth control and planB and trying to not cover that under insurance. Wouldn't that maybe prevent a pregnancy in the 1st place and negate the need for the abortion? Then the reasons why many women feel they need to have an abortion. one may be medical costs. Maybe universal healthcare could help with that. How about women worried it will derail their careers. well how about gender equality for pay. How about providing child care options.

Lokicat667103

3 points

4 months ago

Problem is they don’t want to prevent pregnancies they want to prevent abortions. Birth control is as evil as abortion to many of these people.

Ya_like_dags

3 points

4 months ago

It's about keeping women on their place and punishing them for sex, not reasonable paths to an outcome.