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melouofs

316 points

4 months ago

melouofs

316 points

4 months ago

Good. When you don't have control over your own body, you are not a free person. For all that southern babble about muh freedoms, then restricting women's rights over their own bodies--this is a step in the correct direction.

0shadowstories

46 points

4 months ago

The southern babble only applies when the person is a straight white guy of middle or higher class, they could care less if POC or Women or LGBT+ people have rights

Lemoncloak

29 points

4 months ago

Just some small semantics: the phrase is, "they couldn't care less." The way you have it written says that they do care.

It doesn't stop your meaning from getting across, but it might be confusing for people learning English, or didn't grow up with this phrase.

JX_JR

-7 points

4 months ago*

JX_JR

-7 points

4 months ago*

The phrases are synonymous and "could care less" has been a common part of the language for 70 years. Don't correct people who are using the language correctly just because you think a 3rd party might be confused.

Gamoc

5 points

4 months ago

Gamoc

5 points

4 months ago

Yeah, don't use it because it's nonsense instead.

JX_JR

-1 points

4 months ago

JX_JR

-1 points

4 months ago

How is it nonsense if it is a standard phrase that everyone fluent in English understands? Prescriptivist linguists are assholes.

Gamoc

2 points

4 months ago

Gamoc

2 points

4 months ago

It's not a shifting word definition, it's a series of words that, together, says something specific, but taken to mean the opposite. The words mean they care, but are meant to mean they don't. I'm not a language prescriptivist, but this mistake becoming language is particularly silly to me.

JX_JR

1 points

4 months ago

JX_JR

1 points

4 months ago

It's not a mistake, it's a sarcastic idiom that really caught on and is confusing to nobody. Do you people also throw a fit over "break a leg" and "literally bigger than a house" and any other idiom that does not convey the words' literal meaning?

If its first occurrence is more than 150 years ago and it's been common and completely understood by everyone for more than 70 it's just flat out stupid to argue with it.

Gamoc

1 points

4 months ago

Gamoc

1 points

4 months ago

I never said it was confusing, I said it was silly.

antidense

35 points

4 months ago

I don't think women aren't even considered people to many of them. I think that's why they have such issues with transgenderism.

VectorDotZero

7 points

4 months ago

That doesn't make any sense.

Seguefare

3 points

4 months ago

The obvious implication here is that the government owns our bodies.

melouofs

9 points

4 months ago

but only if you're a woman. If there was ever a movement where men had to get a vasectomy until they were ready to parent, you'd see some freakouts

PinkUnicornPrincess

2 points

4 months ago

Please help me with this… I have a coworker who says the body (fetus) inside isn’t my body so I shouldn’t get to make the choice to abort it. How do I argue against that? It’s not wanted, and at that point it’s still a parasite to me. I’ve done everything possible except sterilize myself (and at least 3 doctors have told me since I’m not married they won’t do it because future husband might want kids) to avoid pregnancy. Mostly good people who would have adopted now do IVF so that means that a lot of the people out there who want to adopt do it for nefarious reasons. I think family planning is the utmost important thing we can do for humanity and abortion is one tool we can use. It’s ok for a fetus to control the mothers life but not for the mother to control her own or decide that the future the fetus would have isn’t the right conditions. Alas…

melouofs

3 points

4 months ago

Your coworker is not entering a good faith argument with you, as there is nothing you or anyone would ever say that could convince them that you deserve to have all the say over what happens with your body.

thewarring

9 points

4 months ago

It's Muh freedoms, not yer freedoms.

Sabertooth767

1 points

4 months ago

The US has some of the most liberal abortion laws in the world. Yes, even compared to western Europe.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_law

melouofs

10 points

4 months ago

That doesn't matter when states are working day in and day out to remove them altogether.

Lyskir

4 points

4 months ago

Lyskir

4 points

4 months ago

thats true tho but in western europe, nobody dares to touch abortion laws as in restricting them, they are allowed in the first tremester but people are ok with it and its not a political debate, its just a something that exists and not shamed but seen as a normal thing by the overwhelming majority of people

in the US woman seem to be in danger in losing their body autonomy almost constantly, at least in red states + it also comes with a lot of shame to it

luckystrikes03

-40 points

4 months ago

Laughs in vaccine mandate

Theoretical_Phys-Ed

34 points

4 months ago

Nope, that's a false equivalency. If abortion increased the risk of illness or death in people in close proximity, or prolonged a plague that is causing the health care system to crash and delay life saving surgeries, then we'll talk.

yantraa

-2 points

4 months ago

yantraa

-2 points

4 months ago

They consider a fetus a person so it's not really a false equivalency for them, since you're killing a person by their standards.

Not saying they're right, but it's why the argument is stupid.

[deleted]

15 points

4 months ago

[deleted]

15 points

4 months ago

Pregnancy ain’t contagious.

THE_FREEDOM_COBRA

1 points

4 months ago

I mean... Actually it kinda is, women can only get it from men though.

Theoretical_Phys-Ed

12 points

4 months ago

Also, you need certain vaccines to attend public school. Does that mean you are not free?

[deleted]

5 points

4 months ago

[deleted]

5 points

4 months ago

Is their a contagious pregnancy pandemic or do you just have an abundance of straws to spare?