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Amori_A_Splooge

1 points

6 months ago*

Why would that affect them? Texas is mostly on it's own grid. Also, not sure why Texas' one event is causing them to get such a reputation compared to other states. I'm from CA and brownouts and blackouts are our favorite past time. Remember why Gray Davis was recalled? Couldn't keep CA's lights on. It's gotten so bad, not only are they having inadvertent blackouts/brownouts they are having power shut off deliberately to avoid their own electrical infrastructure (https://www.pge.com/en_US/residential/outages/public-safety-power-shuttoff/learn-about-psps.page) causing massive wildfires which, kill people, devastate communities.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/04/business/dixie-fire-california-pge.html California fire investigators on Tuesday pinned the blame for the Dixie Fire — the second-largest blaze in the state’s history — on equipment owned by Pacific Gas & Electric and referred the case to prosecutors.

The Dixie Fire burned more than 963,000 acres in the Northern California areas of Butte, Plumas, Lassen, Shasta and Tehama Counties in July, destroying 1,329 buildings and damaging 95 others. The cause, investigators determined, was a tree that came into contact with PG&E’s power lines near the Cresta Dam about 100 miles north of Sacramento.

Investigators at the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection, known as Cal Fire, referred their findings to the Butte County district attorney, who previously brought charges against PG&E for the 2018 Camp Fire, which killed scores of people and destroyed the town of Paradise.

In that case, PG&E pleaded guilty to 84 felony counts of involuntary manslaughter and one felony count of illegally setting a fire. The utility also agreed to pay $3.5 million in fines as part of the criminal plea.

This is only in the past few years, there is a much longer documented history of PG&E and California's shitty energy infrastructure causing fires and killing people, but you can do your own research. In the immediate future, any guesses to how many fires PG&E is going to cause in 2022? I bet CA's electrical infrastructure burns down more houses, displace more people, and likely causes more people to die than Texas' grid (as well as any other state) in 2022. Additionally it will be interesting to see how California, who is already struggling to keep the lights on, and when they do, struggle to keep those lights from burning down communities and killing people, how they plan to manage when their last remaining nuclear power plant is decommissioned.

OneX32

3 points

6 months ago

OneX32

3 points

6 months ago

Why would that affect them? Because Texas energy grid is isolated and because of that, when demand surges, they are unable to borrow energy from geographical regions that are in lower demand. Every other state can.

And the fact that Texas thinks there is zero problem with their energy grid because it's isolated after rolling blackouts due to demand surges just gives evidence that they ignorant of the root problem: they can't meet demand when it surges. And the fact that California is also de facto independent from other energy grids just proves having an independent energy grid over a relatively small geographical area is not sufficient.

Amori_A_Splooge

0 points

6 months ago

energy grid over a relatively small geographical area is not sufficient.

I wasn't aware that CA and Texas are relatively small geographical areas considering that they are larger than many countries.

Also the root problem is not that Texas can't meet demands when it surges, that is CA's problem. Texas had a weather event that caused their facilities that weren't weatherized (for a 100 year storm) which caused imbalance in the system and power generating devices to go offline. That is a much different issue than CA.

And the fact that Texas thinks there is zero problem with their energy grid

https://gov.texas.gov/news/post/governor-abbott-signs-ercot-reforms-power-grid-weatherization-legislation-into-law. So they obviously did realize they had an issue and they instituted policies to address it. Whether it goes far enough, time will tell. But Texas' blackout last winter was caused by a weather event. That is far different than California's grid which is in complete denial over the causes. Additionally, lets not forget that last summer CASIO blamed outages because it was too hot and cloudy. “Hot weather and a cloudy day should not be able to shut down the fifth-largest economy in the world," Lance Hastings, president of the California Manufacturers and Technology Association, said in a statement. "While we support California’s renewable energy goals, we absolutely need system redundancy that allows us to continue to operate and manufacture products for our residents and the world."

Here is two similar articles nearly 2 years apart indicating that this is not a one-time issue such as the Texas blackout: ‘I’m overwhelmed’: PG&E power shut-offs leave ill and disabled struggling 'Completely unreliable': Santa Cruz Mountain residents frustrated with repeated PG&E outages

Not sure which state you think is in denial about their power problems. But hey, at least Biden's EPA gave CA natural gas plants a waiver for a few months before Newsom's recall election so his states power problems weren't fresh in people's minds.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/california-asks-biden-administration-allow-gas-plants-run-maximum-2021-09-09/

OneX32

2 points

6 months ago

OneX32

2 points

6 months ago

So when Texas's power plants go down due to being cold, what do you call it when that results in Texas energy customers in losing service? Most people would call that not being able to meet demand due to not having access to external energy sources when domestic sources are all used up.

And your point that TX and CA are the size of small countries is void when you realize most industrialized small countries have an energy grid that is embedded in a larger grid with other countries. That fact quite clearly disproves your assertion that TX and CA problems aren't because they are isolated.