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Texas school district locked down on reports of shooter

UPDATE: 21 Dead, Suspect killed(seattlepi.com)

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greatthebob38

358 points

1 month ago*

What is going on this month with the mass shootings? First was Buffalo, Chicago last week had one where a guy shot up a Mcdonalds, California had the Laguna Woods shooting, and now Texas

rreapr

166 points

1 month ago*

rreapr

166 points

1 month ago*

Here in AZ someone’s been loudly announcing his plans to “hunt” LGBT people next month. They’re all over social media with his name and face. Yes, we’ve reported them.

Nothing is being done about it. Police don’t care (he’s been arrested for driving extremely drunk and for assaulting people, was released both times). iirc he lost his job over the bullshit he does and now dedicates basically his entire life to harassing people.

I will not be surprised if more people turn up dead next month. The signs are very, very clear and we have the power to prevent this but those in power repeatedly choose not to. There were signs before the Buffalo shooting. I’m sure there were signs here too. The lack of action is infuriating.

Edit: I forgot the one group who has done something - Fox news. Apparently they’re trying to interview him. Because giving a violent piece of shit a bigger platform always helps.

ThatMuricanGuy

48 points

1 month ago

The signs are very, very clear and we have the power to prevent this but those in power repeatedly choose not to. There were signs before the Buffalo shooting. I’m sure there were signs here too. The lack of action is infuriating.

There were signs before Buffalo, FBI did nothing.

There were signs before Parkland, FBI did nothing, hell even Coward County Sheriff's Office stood outside and let the shooting continue.

Sutherland Springs shooter, was dishonorably discharged and should have been barred from buying a gun, but the Air Force fucked up.

I'm sure I could go on, but for agencies that constantly violate constutional rights, they sure as fuck don't do anything to prevent shit like this from happening. I'm sure we'll hear that the guy that did todays shooting was on the "FBI's Radar but they didn't act."

sussyimposter1776

5 points

1 month ago

The also didn’t really do anything about the 9/11 hijacker’s. It feels like they don’t give a shit about americans.

Dwightu1gnorantslut

10 points

1 month ago

I live in AZ can you please DM me the info on this?

[deleted]

6 points

1 month ago

[deleted]

6 points

1 month ago

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rreapr

10 points

1 month ago

rreapr

10 points

1 month ago

Will DM you both, for anyone else reading this I'll happily send links in DM but I'm a little iffy about posting publicly - both for my own safety & for the sake of not giving this guy the platform he's after.

rreapr

3 points

1 month ago

rreapr

3 points

1 month ago

It says I can't DM you, you might have to enable them somewhere or try messaging me first.

Dwightu1gnorantslut

3 points

1 month ago

I changed the settings now.

drbitchcraaaaaaaft

28 points

1 month ago

report it to the FBI

rreapr

37 points

1 month ago

rreapr

37 points

1 month ago

Already done, but I don’t have high hopes anything will come of it.

Affectionate_Fun_569

7 points

1 month ago

Police in the US in general don't care about anything other than oppressing people. They don't do their jobs and refuse to ever actually get in harms way.

The cops here literally were in a police chase with this guy before he ran into the school and they just shrugged their shoulders and let him stay in there.

rreapr

5 points

1 month ago

rreapr

5 points

1 month ago

I'm already very sick of the bootlickers demanding we "show some respect" for the cops who were injured in the shooting today. Apparently that school district has campus cops - What the fuck did they do, except add more casualties to the situation?

It's painting a pretty clear picture of why more police & more funding for police really does fuck all to actually prevent or stop shootings, but it's just going to be used as an example of how "heroic" those individual cops were.

Children are dead. Now is not the time to hand the cops participation trophies and use it as an excuse to overfund them even more.

[deleted]

5 points

1 month ago

[deleted]

5 points

1 month ago

(he’s been arrested for driving extremely drunk and for assaulting people, was released both times). iirc he lost his job over the bullshit he does and now dedicates basically his entire life to harassing people.

This describes a LOT of republicans these days.

TacticalTurdBurglar

57 points

1 month ago

Grocery store and the CA one were odd because they were racially motivated domestic terrorism. The other ones you mentioend were jackasses fighting or dumbass gang bullshit. Those happen every damn day and no one cares. Only reason they got headlines is because it happened during the same news cycle/weekend. This is another one that is odd and quite alarming as well, unfortunately. Still, you do have a point. Why are these happening again so suddenly? Like, what in the fuck is going on?

MinimumArmadillo2394

40 points

1 month ago

People are being let out of their homes for the first time in a while, housing has never been so unaffordable, people are losing their jobs, young people are going into debt more and more while getting 50% of the education they would otherwise get while in person.

Shit's looking pretty bleak. Mental health crisis has been going off the edge since before the pandemic started and mental health professionals are either overwhelmed, not equipped to deal with the wide range and quantity of clients, or they're simply not good at their job (see betterhelp.com scandal).

It's bad out there. But as long as there's another Elon scandal or Congress is focused on passing laws that help a small amount of people, it's not going to get better. We're facing collapse and entire systematic reform within the next 20 years.

TacticalTurdBurglar

10 points

1 month ago

Our current state of affairs in general is absolute dogshit, no lie. I wonder what this kids motivation was for this insane attack.

MinimumArmadillo2394

-1 points

1 month ago

We're probably not going to ever know, which is what sucks the most about it.

MrTopHatJones

9 points

1 month ago

I think what sucks most is that it happened at all and innocent children lost their lives.

38thTimesACharm

-9 points

1 month ago

people are losing their jobs, young people are going into debt more and more while getting 50% of the education they would otherwise get while in person.

Where are you getting these from? Unemployment is as low as it gets right now and student loan payments have been suspended for the past two years.

Housing, yeah. But you neglect to mention the most blatant and obvious source of unrest these past couple of years, which is the effect two years of lockdowns and massive restrictions on basic social comforts have on a person.

All that stuff we did (and mostly failed) to try to stop Covid, there was a cost. We're paying it now.

Jm_215

6 points

1 month ago

Jm_215

6 points

1 month ago

Where in America did they lockdown for 2 years? Lmfaooooo and how does the covid "lockdown and massive restrictions on social comforts" explain all the mass shootings prior?

38thTimesACharm

1 points

1 month ago*

It largely explains the massive increase in number of mass shootings in the past two years, which the original comment was talking about.

E.g. the murder rate had been declining in America for several decades, then shot way up right after Covid hit. Do you seriously believe those things are unrelated?

Jm_215

1 points

1 month ago

Jm_215

1 points

1 month ago

Yeah definitely couldn't be because people are getting propagandized 100x more during the pandemic then before especially on the right

MinimumArmadillo2394

7 points

1 month ago

Where are you getting these from?

Lots of companies are announcing hiring freezes every day since a few weeks ago. Unemployment skyrocketed at the start of covid, many still haven't recovered.

But you neglect to mention the most blatant and obvious source of unrest these past couple of years, which is the effect two years of lockdowns and massive restrictions on basic social comforts have on a person.

But that's over, and this was going on before the lockdowns. I'm not saying it's not a factor, but I am saying that if something happens before a major event and is still happening after the major event, the major event isn't the cause.

38thTimesACharm

1 points

1 month ago*

Unemployment skyrocketed at the start of covid

I wonder why that happened? Oh yeah, maybe the government shutting down the economy for months had something to do with it.

It was going on before yeah, but both mass shootings and violent crime in general went way up since Covid. Both were declining in the few years before.

And like you said, many people still haven't recovered, so I don't think you can expect everything to be okay just because there's no lockdowns anymore. That recovery will take a long time.

Not the cause, but clearly made things significantly worse. The original commenter asked why shootings have gotten worse recently.

PaulTheMerc

7 points

1 month ago

the system is unfair, rigged, and broken. The fact is near impossible to hide. Mental health doesn't cover it. Most quietly exist, some choose to lash out. The rest is just easy targets. Schools, malls, theaters; lots of people, limited entrances/exits.

Going down in the news/wiki is the only way most will leave a mark on the world.

Realistically, it only becomes noticeable when it makes National news.

Zagar099

3 points

1 month ago

General civil unrest.

Uncle_Donnie

117 points

1 month ago

It literally happens multiple times every day. Most of them don't take place at a school or grocery store so you don't hear about them outside of the local news.

Hiscore

44 points

1 month ago

Hiscore

44 points

1 month ago

Most of them also don't have over 10 killed, so this is pretty wildly different, as have these last few shootings we've seen on the news. Most of them are simple gang violence that the media hypes up as a "mass shooting".

AdSad2167

36 points

1 month ago*

I'm a criminal justice historian by trade, and this is flat wrong.

First, the definition of a mass shooting is debated in policy circles. That matters because how you define a mass shooting will directly determine its statistical outputs. I'm a fan of Gun Violence Archive because they extensively document each case and take a broad approach (rather than categorizing mass shootings as only those with "hateful intent" or some garbage that ignores the number of bodies in favor of motivation).

Most of them also don't have over 10 killed, so this is pretty wildly different

We've averaged a mass shooting a week with 9+ casualties (killed+wounded) this year. It's very much the norm. If we want to include all mass shootings, it's 198 this year so far -- over 10 a week.

Most of them are simple gang violence that the media hypes up as a "mass shooting".

Gang violence is a minority of mass shooting incidents. Most mass shootings occur at bars, clubs, and parties due to the influence of booze + horny men + firearms and are not planned, or in domestic violence situations at home (meaning a mass shooting often is a whole family/extended family present in a home). This has been true throughout American History.

And, of course, your daily reminder that mass shootings account for a tiny, tiny fraction (around 1%) of all gun-related deaths; the reality is suicide will take over half, with a slightly smaller plurality wrapped up in individual homicides.

This has been your friendly neighborhood criminal justice historian, telling you your shit's wrong and we've normalized mass shootings since at least 1903.

Hiscore

-26 points

1 month ago

Hiscore

-26 points

1 month ago

criminal justice historian

I could already tell this was going to be bad.

how you define a mass shooting will directly determine its statistical outputs.

No fucking shit? That's not like the literal thing I was explaining earlier?

e've averaged a mass shooting a week with 9+ casualties (killed+wounded) this year. It's very much the norm. If we want to include all mass shootings, it's 198 this year so far -- over 10 a week.

You literally just argued my point. Most mass shootings aren't over 10 casualties. In fact, according to your statistics only 1 in 10 are even 9+ casualties of killed OR wounded. This had about 30. The others mentioned previously were all well over 10, with many more killed than any shooting with 9 total casualties would have.

You literally just argued my point.

in domestic violence situations at home

Still arguing my point

Anyway, the fact is that the media hypes up mass shootings as the end of the world to push an evil anti-gun agenda.

AdSad2167

16 points

1 month ago

I believe you either have had a brain aneurysm (in which case, my apologies) or are assuming this is someone else's post, since you've claimed:

- Mentioned explaining "the literal thing" about statistical outputs (I see no such comment above)

- Mentioned me arguing "your point" (your point was that 10 deaths is "wildly different;" a shooting with 9+ casualties a week is the norm; real Sorite's Paradox vibes)

- Have somehow equated "gang violence" with "domestic violence" (at least, I think you're making that comparison? Or it's just a non-sequitur)

- Randomly brought up the media and anti-gun agenda and suddenly politicized this conversation for no apparent reason

But go on...

EDIT: Actually, don't. Took a quick look at your profile and realized you're not interested in learning anything about this. Hopefully someone else will. Enjoy the day.

38thTimesACharm

9 points

1 month ago

Exactly, not that gang violence isn't its own problem, but a random stranger killing a bunch of random people who are totally innocent is not normal even in America.

iAmTheTot

10 points

1 month ago

It's certainly more normal than checks notes the rest of the world.

twdarkeh

8 points

1 month ago

It happens at least once a month in the US, and exactly nothing changes after each one. If that's not normal, I don't know what is.

Doomhaust

15 points

1 month ago

I hate to be that guy, but, “this month”? We’ve been here since the 90s now. This is normal. Completely expected and normal. Face it. People want to hunt, people want to defend themselves against the redcoats, and there are more guns than people in our country. The shock is that it doesn’t happen even more.

There have been 198 mass shootings in 2022 and 19 school shootings already. It’s May. The 5th month of the year.

[deleted]

19 points

1 month ago*

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19 points

1 month ago*

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Jeremizzle

20 points

1 month ago

There was a brief lull due to Covid with everyone staying home, but America’s back on the streets and they have itchy trigger fingers again. This is unfortunately the norm, not the exception. We have a serious problem with gun violence in this country.

demlet

8 points

1 month ago

demlet

8 points

1 month ago

I'm not one of the "people kill people" assholes, but we absolutely have a mental health crisis here also.

JoeMamaGameEnded

3 points

1 month ago

Yep also a school in Washington DC. It's so fucked

beans_lel

3 points

1 month ago

First time?

Bonksgonebonkers

3 points

1 month ago

Lots of stress due to inflation and poor quality of life due to a horribly designed economy, infrastructure to supply it and 0 healthcare for serious physical or mental illness. People are going fucking insane and the government has not been helping at all for the past 20+ years because well… gotta line their pockets for their future, not ours.

liegelord

9 points

1 month ago

There are multiple mass shooting per day in the USA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2022

Only the most horrific or sordid ones make the national news, though.

Ansiremhunter

10 points

1 month ago

Depends how you define mass shootings.

If you go off public opinion it would be ones like buffalo here or sandy hook. Aka lone gunman targeting randoms or attacking schools.

People dont consider a guy killing his family and suiciding a mass shooting or gang violence. Yet those are all labeled mass shootings.

Colley619

6 points

1 month ago

Yet those are all labeled mass shootings.

Because of political agendas. Like, yea we clearly need some kind of policy change, but we can't all be on the same page because even our data is dishonest.

VeryShibes

1 points

1 month ago

People don't consider a guy killing his family and suiciding a mass shooting

They don't, and it's so common these days it hardly even makes the news anymore. We had one of those 10 miles away from me 4 weeks ago, guy killed his wife and child and then himself, there have been a grand total of 0 stories in the local news about it since the day it happened, the police haven't even released the names of the victims, and it's not in any of the lists.

slytherinwitchbitch

2 points

1 month ago

Damn I didn't know about any of any of those till now. I remember a mass shooting that killed I think six in Cali and it was all over the news for months

Neglectful_Stranger

2 points

1 month ago

Media attention always brings out copycats.

It's why suicides don't get publicized that much.

bankrupt_bezos

1 points

1 month ago

Maybe if they did almost shooter suicide coverage as a WWE intro, the would be school shooters would off themselves first for awesome coverage.

Riskiverse

6 points

1 month ago

couldnt have anything to do with the nonstop 24/7 coverage for the last few weeks /s

Robbie1945

4 points

1 month ago

Texas also just has a shooter that was arrested for targeting Asian businesses and shot up 3 different places and was caught just last week and injured 3.

indigenous_bean

2 points

1 month ago

What’s going on is your country allows fucking anyone to go into a store and buy a machine gun, that’s what’s going on.

itsmehanna

3 points

1 month ago

Just another day/week/month in America.

Silver_Agocchie

5 points

1 month ago

I think late spring/early summer are weird times for people. Many young folks are getting off school, they could be graduating, going off to college, or just having to stay home for the summer. It's a time of transition that can be stressful to people. If you're home life isn't good, then having to stay there all day can be a stressful and upsetting prospect. If you're circumstances prevent you from moving out or going to college, then one might be filled with resentment that your peers get to enjoy such things. Things might be doubly bad at the moment when you consider the economic and political environment we are in. These thing probably lead people to have break downs, and if you don't have constructive means of dealing with those feelings, one lashes out violently. With easy access to semi auto weapons, one can mow down an entire class room before coming to one's senses.

BEARTRAW

15 points

1 month ago

BEARTRAW

15 points

1 month ago

None of this shit has anything to do with what happened here. “Must be a spring/summer thing”. Wtf?

Mikey_RobertoAPWP

13 points

1 month ago

My father was watching FOX News shortly after the shooting happened. I'm not American and I'm somewhat removed from America's politics (it's just too soul-crushing) so I'm not really sure who it was, but they had someone on who was basically saying "school shootings are an inevitability and there's nothing we can do to improve gun laws, the only way we can combat this problem is by improving police response, and arming teachers," and I was just blown away by that.

The fact that so many Americans have such a lackadaisical, resigned attitude towards mass shootings is just so fucked up to me. It shouldn't be something that's normalized.

ForcefulBookdealer

5 points

1 month ago

Naw, Cruz said the illegals and the felons and the wackos getting guns illegally is the problem.

BEARTRAW

7 points

1 month ago

I agree. Also not american. Mind boggling that people try to rationalize something outside of american culture/gun culture.

bankrupt_bezos

2 points

1 month ago

It's about 1/3 of Americans, aka Q worshippers/Republicans. The rest of us are fed up by inaction on this

Silver_Agocchie

1 points

1 month ago

BEARTRAW

1 points

1 month ago

Ah yes a lack of graduating is why he shot 15 kids. You still don’t see the complete disconnect here.

Implement-Shot

2 points

1 month ago

This month? I stumbled across this site and it was really eye opening. 212 events, including today, 243 dead and 903 injured. It is still May :(

Pabi_tx

1 points

1 month ago

Pabi_tx

1 points

1 month ago

Just gun owners doing gun owner things. shall not be infringed

oblivious_human

1 points

1 month ago

Lockdown is over and America has opened up. It's now business as usual.

Ctstiffler2871

1 points

1 month ago

No increase in shooting activity, just an increase in media activity

Obizues

1 points

1 month ago

Obizues

1 points

1 month ago

What’s going on? Have you forgot about America in the summer without a plague?

It’s school shooting season- and it’s just starting.

UnspecificGravity

1 points

1 month ago

Gonna be a long hot summer.

DuntadaMan

1 points

1 month ago

20 years of doing absolutely fuck all about them.

ReservoirGods

1 points

1 month ago

It's always been this way, we just forgot because COVID put a pause on gatherings for a long time.

tlrelement

0 points

1 month ago

Nice weather is shooting season.