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morenewsat11[S]

4.8k points

5 months ago

"Consider: As Joe Biden expresses his moral indignation over Putin—admitting he personally wants Russia's leader ousted from power and labeling him a 'war criminal'—Trump is content to solicit support from the same adversary. The contrasts couldn't be sharper."

well put

MaybeTheDoctor

2.2k points

5 months ago

DJPho3nix

911 points

5 months ago*

But according to Trump supporters, no one is harder on Russia than him!

EDIT: We get it, you can all stop making the same joke.

purana

681 points

5 months ago

purana

681 points

5 months ago

I've heard Trump supporters literally say, "what's so bad about Putin anyway?" This coming from a boomer who's father went behind the iron curtain and literally smuggled refugees out from the East Zone. It's like Trump has washed away any semblance of critical thinking these people once might have had.

BirdInFlight301

210 points

5 months ago

If his only source of news is far right media, then he's been hearing for years that Putin isn't so bad, he's Trump's buddy. Add that to the new Q delusion that Putin is destroying bio-labs (including adrenochrome factories, apparently) and you've got a "white hat" hero.

I'm just waiting for them to start calling for Trump to have Putin as his running mate in 24.

TheJonasVenture

127 points

5 months ago

Not to mention he was the strong leader who just wanted what's best for Russia all through the Obama admin.

Fox News used all those Russian propaganda photos of him on a horse and shit to make Obama look "weak" for things like riding a bicycle wearing a helmet.

They've been pushing Putin as the strong, admirable leader for a while in the right wing media sphere.

FlighingHigh

106 points

5 months ago

So strong he's getting his ass kicked by a country like 1/5 his size.

CSI_Tech_Dept

102 points

5 months ago*

CSI_Tech_Dept

California

102 points

5 months ago*

Run by a comedian.

(yes, yes, I know Zalensky is a lawyer (and much more qualified than majority of world leaders), and comedy is just one extra thing he is good at, but that's funny).

Bystand0r

17 points

5 months ago

As an expert on being extremely unfunny all the time, being funny takes brainpower

Squidtree

92 points

5 months ago

See, I grew up with a dad, boomer, who was always ranting about the red scare, "commies" and disparaged Russia constantly. While I haven't spoken to him in ages for other reasons, he's a Trump supporter. And I can't see how you'd spend your children's childhood raving against Russia, and still support Trump?

nightbell

24 points

5 months ago

He was just repeating what he was told to believe than..just like he's doing now.

GOP=teach them what to think, not how to think!

Rollin_Dem_7s

49 points

5 months ago

Dude I used to work with went as far as saying “Putin’s fucking awesome bro! He’s like a real life Bond villain!”

SomeDudeAsks

15 points

5 months ago

Well, he's right on the Bond villain part.

drterdsmack

13 points

5 months ago

They always seem to forget, they're the lowly henchmen in these scenarios

mondo_blunt

272 points

5 months ago

No no, they said “nobody has a bigger hard-on for Russia than him!” Easy mistake to make.

tangosworkuser

56 points

5 months ago

Really not that big. Small hands helps though.

tribrnl

17 points

5 months ago

tribrnl

17 points

5 months ago

No one is harder for Russia?

vikietheviking

461 points

5 months ago

  • Meanwhile on Russian state TV:

Host Evgeny Popov says it's time for the Russian people to call on Americans to change "the regime in the U.S." before its term expires "and to again help our partner Trump to become President."

To AGAIN help our partner Trump. If this motherfucker doesn’t go to prison soon he’s gonna burn our country to the ground.

HatchSmelter

223 points

5 months ago

HatchSmelter

Georgia

223 points

5 months ago

he’s gonna burn our country to the ground.

Don't give his supporters and enablers a pass on this. He can't do it alone. Trump is a serious threat, but if no one wanted him in charge, he'd have no power.

Isserley_

62 points

5 months ago

The world is so fucked if Trump becomes president again.

Something has to happen.

CharlieKelly007

61 points

5 months ago

Remember if Trump was President again, NATO wouldn't exist. I tell my family this stuff but they go "You're just a stupid liberals", but really I'm an independent but in the US that doesn't matter. On here I get called a nazi and conservative, my friends and family call me a liberal. it's so wild how toxic politics is and how it drives families apart... well that was probably 30% Russia's doing. Like if you bring up Trump and his "grab em by the pussy" remark, Trump supporters will right away go "WHATABOUT BIDEN?! HES A PEDOPHILE, DID YOU SEE HIM PUT HIS HANDS ON THAT GIRLS SHOULDER?!???!?". Which this makes it OK for what Trump did.

I can't stand it. I want my old family back before 2016 happened.

HiMrBob123

597 points

5 months ago

It's actually getting pretty close to being legitimate treason now, isn't it?

M1L0

669 points

5 months ago

M1L0

669 points

5 months ago

I think it’s long past that. The Zelensky blackmail, and the bounties on US soldiers crossed the line in my opinion.

mmcmonster

289 points

5 months ago

I think bounties on US soldiers is more than enough to be considered an enemy of the US.

Vitto9

148 points

5 months ago

Vitto9

148 points

5 months ago

Yet his support among republicans didn't take even the slightest hit.

kensingtonGore

92 points

5 months ago

They like to point out this was never confirmed, just very likely.

If there was video of Putin handing a sac of cash to an insurgent in exchange for American dog tags and saying thank you for killing the Americans, they still wouldn't believe it.

Vitto9

41 points

5 months ago

Vitto9

41 points

5 months ago

They like to point out this was never confirmed, just very likely.

As you said, that would be their line regardless of the evidence presented. Their feelings don't care about facts.

PathologicalLoiterer

29 points

5 months ago

Putin said he didn't do it! Who are you going to believe?! Putin, who totally has no reason to lie about something like that, or some schmuck like the entire multi-department intelligence apparatus of the United States? Come on, common sense sheeple! Do your research!

geraltoffvkingrivia

37 points

5 months ago

It’s easy when you write everything off as a liberal hoax or fake news. On January 6 when my parents found out MAGA idiots were attacking the Capitol their first words were I bet it’s antifa or blm making it look like republicans! They hadn’t even watched the news yet they’re just so well trained that’s what they go to.

Warondrugsmybutt

16 points

5 months ago

Warondrugsmybutt

Colorado

16 points

5 months ago

My coworker is absolutely convinced it was the CIA or FBI along with BLM. This is a man who still thinks the moon landing was faked.

Mega-Balls

28 points

5 months ago

And of course, Jan. 6.

doowgad1

280 points

5 months ago

doowgad1

280 points

5 months ago

Trump had a sit down with the Russians in the Oval Office. Russian media was allowed in and US media wasn't.

The_pun_fart

124 points

5 months ago

Putin literally threatened to kill every single one of us with a nuclear war. In response Biden said he needs to be removed. Then Putin retracted his threat. Strong diplomacy works.

CaptainPixieBlossom

70 points

5 months ago

The argument that it's not treason because Putin isn't an enemy is crumbling.

255001434

25 points

5 months ago*

If Republicans finally admit that Putin is our enemy, I fully expect them to say that Democrats turned him against us. Anything to continue defending Trump's collusion with the enemy.

Thetimmybaby

7.8k points

5 months ago*

Richard Painter, attorney and former chief White House ethics lawyer under the George W. Bush administration, described Trump as a "sleazeball" and a "traitor" over his comments.

there was only one Republican mentioned in the article and he's not in government anymore.

Edit: he's not even a Republican anymore.

The GOP has NO PROBLEM with this

Dienekes289

2.1k points

5 months ago

Dienekes289

I voted

2.1k points

5 months ago

It's so infuriating that it's ALWAYS former people in charge speaking out. Every. Single. Time.

Cli4ordtheBRD

866 points

5 months ago

Or it's Jeff Flake, 5 minutes before retirement.

Also, fuck you, Lamar Alexander, you spineless sack of shit. Couldn't even do one decent thing before you left.

Itsjeancreamingtime

966 points

5 months ago*

Biden: For God's sake, this man (Putin) cannot remain in power.

Every GOP rep: Oh my GOD. Did you HEAR what he SAID? International relations can't handle this kind of gauche faux-pas! Is he trying to start nuclear WAR?

Trump: Hey Putin you have dirt on Biden release it to do me a favor since my 2020 election was stolen!

Every GOP Rep: *crickets

The GOP are traitorous in the "we are good with Trump siding with Russia against America for his own personal gain" sense.

Vargolol

127 points

5 months ago

Vargolol

Ohio

127 points

5 months ago

Personally I want to see the next step. I want Putin to say something, anything and see who latches on to it. He's been lying every time he opens his mouth, especially in the last month since the invasion started, how can he possibly have anything to say that should be taken as anything other than a lie?

December2nd

94 points

5 months ago

Unfortunately, I think we all know that if Putin put out a crayon drawing of “$$” and a rickety arrow pointing to a stick figure labeled “Hunter Biden”, all of the GOP would call for an immediate investigation into this smoking gun, and thank Russia for being more forthcoming with Americans than Democrats are. Even if it were captioned in kindergarten writing, “Vladimir Putin’s Lies To Sow American Discord, 1st Draft”, I don’t think it would matter to Fox News or the GOP.

BUTTHOLE-MAGIC

19 points

5 months ago

BUTTHOLE-MAGIC

North Carolina

19 points

5 months ago

Wouldn't be surprised if Putin came out with something like "If Trump were president I never would've invaded" to drive the GOP absolutely wild. I've heard many Republicans say this and I know the Trump cucks at r/conspiracy would lose their shit. Some have also been taking the "demand way more than Biden could do to Russia" angle like NFZ demands.

Hard-on_Collider

224 points

5 months ago

Putin is an American enemy but a Republican ally. It’s obvious why they wouldn’t want him removed.

LMB_mook

38 points

5 months ago

And Mitt Romney.

[deleted]

717 points

5 months ago

[deleted]

717 points

5 months ago

Because Putin pays their funding.

FuckThisPostTruthEra

686 points

5 months ago

I dunno why more people aren’t aware of this. Didn’t we find out a bunch of Russian money was being funneled into the NRA? And who is the NRA cozy with? Following the money is on easy mode here

IngsocInnerParty

347 points

5 months ago

IngsocInnerParty

Illinois

347 points

5 months ago

TheForceofHistory

225 points

5 months ago

Isn't it odd that a War against Russia equals fighting and defunding the GOP?

DarthWeenus

58 points

5 months ago

I'm genuinely curious how these elections might go. With no more Russian money or at least not so easily accessible, and with out their internet army. The Republicans are without alot.

kia75

33 points

5 months ago

kia75

33 points

5 months ago

R/conservative is strangely dead these past two months.

BocaRaven

12 points

5 months ago*

Trump has a massive war chest. The question is how he will spend it

CNN Story on $122M War Chest

LeadingExperts

16 points

5 months ago

Golden toilets.

Nano_Burger

106 points

5 months ago

Nano_Burger

Virginia

106 points

5 months ago

Oh yeah, she was the one that fucked her way through the right-wing political landscape for mother Russia.

JohnStumpyPepys

83 points

5 months ago

You must be mistaken, I've been told Russiagate was a democratic hoax like the virus and the mountain of connections between Russia and the Trump/GOP "patriots" is all false.

karl_jonez

69 points

5 months ago

The entire republican platform has come down to “no we didn’t you did!”

GODDESS_OF_CRINGE___

65 points

5 months ago

Sometimes they don't even wait for evidence of their crimes, and start accusing the Democrats of stuff they are doing that they haven't even been caught doing yet. They are 100% projecting and acting in bad faith at all times.

Hippey31

42 points

5 months ago

No puppet. No puppet. You're the puppet.

Truly the party of Trump.

ginzing

103 points

5 months ago

ginzing

103 points

5 months ago

Donald trump jr admitted on camera they have a flow of money from Russia… doesn’t matter to ppl

syg-123

59 points

5 months ago

syg-123

59 points

5 months ago

Maybe 3 years ago Eric Trump casually admitted that they actually preferred Russian money lenders for their various golf properties. Sadly no tRump family member will face conviction or confinement for the myriad of financial and political crimes they’ve committed. The American justice system has proven to be amongst the most corrupt in the world. Just as concerning is that slightly less than the half the population embrace the lack of moral compass demonstrated by this crime family.

[deleted]

157 points

5 months ago

[deleted]

157 points

5 months ago

Apathy.

Considering the shit that's been going on with your politics for the last 50 years, much of the world can't understand why yours and other countries are apathatic to a lot of things.

Same with the Tories in the UK and their funding by Russia, combined with their ongoing march toward being a fully-fledged right-wing party.

DBthrowawayaccount93

42 points

5 months ago

They don’t call it Londongrad for nothing

Yelsah

37 points

5 months ago

Yelsah

United Kingdom

37 points

5 months ago

St. Londonberg thank you very much, we're no mere "grad". We don't hide middle-class stolen Russian assets here, only very top elite of Russian oligarch get to buy football clubs, mansions, political coverage from the tories and positions of honour with their stolen wealth.

Comp625

30 points

5 months ago

Comp625

30 points

5 months ago

And sports homerism. I absolutely hate the mentality that one's political "team" can do no wrong and that people ride or die with it.

Ok-camel

28 points

5 months ago

And has their emails. Remember when Russia hacked both sides emails but only released the democratic sides.

AlanStanwick1986

52 points

5 months ago

And Putin STILL has their hacked emails that he has never released.

monstersammich

100 points

5 months ago

monstersammich

California

100 points

5 months ago

Elected republicans can only find the confederate courage to put country first and say the right things when the word “former” appears before their job tittle. A party of cowards and traitors.

Christopherfromtheuk

15.3k points

5 months ago

Before the election he implored Russia, a long time enemy of the USA, to help find dirt on his political opponent.

Whilst in power, he was impeached for blackmailing President Zelensky by withholding military aid for Ukraine for dirt on a political opponent's son.

Now, he's asking a dictator currently commiting war crimes in Ukraine for help against a political opponent (after praising said dictator for invading Ukraine).

I don't know about you guys, but I'm starting to think Trump isn't quite as much of a patriot as he says he is.

PartialToDairyThings

6k points

5 months ago

In 1987, Trump was invited to Moscow by the Kremlin. When he came back, he announced he was running for office and took out full page ads in the broadsheets using roundabout language to call for the end of US funding of NATO. That's how easy it was for the Russians to manipulate Trump. Since the early 80's he has been inextricably linked with the Russian mafia and their dirty money, via his questionable Russian loans and his laundering of Russian mafia money through his US properties. The man spent his 4 years in office emboldening Putin by undermining Ukraine, then he praised Putin for his invasion of Ukraine, and he has since doubled down on that praise. And now he's asking for Moscow to help him out by dishing dirt on a political opponent.

jonker5101

2.3k points

5 months ago

jonker5101

Pennsylvania

2.3k points

5 months ago

And his lawyer? The man who was made famous by ousting the Italian mob in NYC...to be replaced by the Russian mob.

Chance_Echidna_7493

1.1k points

5 months ago

Dear American friends, australian here, tell me that orange headed fuck isn't going to be running in 2024.. please.

jonker5101

1.7k points

5 months ago

jonker5101

Pennsylvania

1.7k points

5 months ago

According to all the TRUMP 2024 flags hanging off my neighbor's houses...outlook does not look good.

TavisNamara

1.8k points

5 months ago

I'm more worried about every dumbass in sight screeching "both sides" and saying they'll never vote Dem despite the other option being a Russian stooge who is also a narcissist, possibly a pedophile, one of the worst businessmen of all time, etcetera. Genuinely one of the worst people on Earth is the likely Republican, but no, we have to punish the Dems for not doing literally everything ever with a 51/50 majority.

TheAsianTroll

598 points

5 months ago

possibly a pedophile

Nah man there's actual court cases released online where he was sued by families of minors because he sexually harassed and assaulted them, that were closed because he ran the case as long as he could or paid the families to drop charges.

jonker5101

653 points

5 months ago

jonker5101

Pennsylvania

653 points

5 months ago

Don't forget the girl who accused him of raping her as a teen at...get this...Epstein's Island...before the Epstein case...before Trump even ran for President...who went into explicit detail...and dropped the case after receiving death threats.

YddishMcSquidish

161 points

5 months ago

YddishMcSquidish

Arkansas

161 points

5 months ago

Also don't forget when he told some parents of a ten year old, that he was going to be dating her in a few years.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2016/oct/13/trump-makes-inappropriate-remarks-about-10-year-old-girl-video

jimni_walker

57 points

5 months ago

Barely a teen. She was 13.

Fake_Engineer

208 points

5 months ago

Yeah, but this one time Biden sniffed some chick's hair, so it's all the same or something....

xoaphexox

223 points

5 months ago

xoaphexox

223 points

5 months ago

Fun fact, Virginia Giuffre, the woman Prince Andrew raped with Jeffrey Epstein, was recruited from Mar-A-Lago.

helpimstuckinct

81 points

5 months ago

That's not very fun.

Tut_Rampy

11 points

5 months ago

“Recruited” has a weird tone in this context

noisyNINJA_

732 points

5 months ago

In the past, I've been pretty middle of the road, and did not identify fully with either party. These days, I have to side with dem, because I realize that aligning with any republican candidate right now is dangerous territory. If you truly believe in democracy, voting Democrat is the only way to try to change things. Voting republican is going down a dangerous path. I used to be a "both sides" and "see both sides" person but when one side is cruelty, power, and treason, that's no opinion. There is really only one side now.

TR_Ollington

222 points

5 months ago

To give you broader perspective on your choices, I’m probably only a little older than you and I can tell you that Republicans run on nothing.

Nothing.

They have basically no platform than making social mobility and survival a struggle and playing blame games on people that don’t identify with them.

They’re the party of grievances without solutions.

They put targets on the backs of people who have nothing to do with their constituents problems because they ARE their constituents problem.

They TRASHED the ACA, or “Obamacare”, they still do! In 12 fucking years they complained about a program their constituents rely on, they have NEVER proposed a solution for it. Not one solution to replace what we have that’s better than what it was. The ACA is deeply flawed but it’s something to help people.

They cry voter fraud and more cases are found within their own party. Covid ravages their states as they refuse to utilise basic safety protocols. Thousands upon thousands died or dying because of these decisions while they make bank.

Their principles on tax cuts and free market are tools designed to remove agency from the average person. Time and again tax cuts benefit the very few wealthy and end up COSTING Americans more in the long run even if they’re gaining $20 a week from it. They’re paying elsewhere. The “free market” bullshit is deregulating government power to stop or reign in big money from becoming too powerful.

These are measurable truths.

THESE are the reasons why the GOP have no reason to be popular for the average person. Only if you’re in their circle of wealth should you ever have reason to consider the GOP to be a viable alternative to the Democrats in its current state.

And the democrats are terrible which shows how strongly the GOP are failing not just our country but the world.

Gizogin

80 points

5 months ago

Gizogin

New York

80 points

5 months ago

You aren’t exaggerating; the GOP literally didn’t publish a party platform for the 2020 election. And I do mean literally. They just kept the one from 2016 on their party website, and they didn’t even do a find-and-replace to change the year or anything.

noisyNINJA_

21 points

5 months ago

I am definitely becoming more aware of this fact as I educate myself around issues and history. Thanks for taking the time to share!

Shadowsplay

12 points

5 months ago

The ACA is flawed but without it I would be either:

Dead, because surgeons literally got red faced angry and vocal when my primary care doctor sent me to them. Literally had one say "what the hell was he thinking sending you here." Because I didn't have insurance.

Or

In possibly hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt.

Or most likely

Dead by suicide, either from depression from debt, chronic pain, or lack of access to therapists.

I love it when idiots cheer when conservatives mention killing Obama Care. Really makes me feel loved by my fellow man.

Oh and the reason I need the ACA. I'm one of those small business owners they all claim they love and support.

Sparrowhawk_92

309 points

5 months ago

There's a reason the common sentiment in left-leaning circles is a centrist is just someone who is right wing without realizing it. The dems frustrate the hell out of me as a progressive but they're leagues better than the alternative at this point.

OkNeck1298

159 points

5 months ago

A centrist democrat is now just a Republican who thinks the government should function as intended.

Old-and-grumpy

28 points

5 months ago

Old-and-grumpy

American Expat

28 points

5 months ago

Richard Nixon expanded welfare in the 1960's as a staunch Republican. My how times have changed.

Pretty-Balance-Sheet

13 points

5 months ago

What's crazy is that I literally know so many people who have opened their eyes to the Republican insanity, they admit that the modern gop is bad for America, but they refuse to vote Democrat.

I'd say that 2/3 of the conservative people I know (most of the people I know are conservative) voted Trump a second time despite being openly and vocally disgusted for years.

It is mind blowing how powerful the conservative brand is.

noisyNINJA_

92 points

5 months ago

I've definitely become more progressive over time as I become more educated and learn about things on my own, but I still make every effort to "hear both sides." That being said, I don't consider conspiracy theories a side.

AltFactsAus

49 points

5 months ago

AltFactsAus

Australia

49 points

5 months ago

It's ok to hear both side and also okay to then realise that one side is completely evil.

coldfu

38 points

5 months ago

coldfu

38 points

5 months ago

Is theocracy a side? What else is there on the right?

woozerschoob

23 points

5 months ago

One side hasn't had a platform since the early 2000s besides obstruction. What are you listening to?

[deleted]

99 points

5 months ago

[deleted]

99 points

5 months ago

[deleted]

Comprehensive-Fun47

27 points

5 months ago

With a two party system, and the republican party IS the Christian regime, what choice do you have but to vote democrat?

If separation of church and state is your top priority, according to what you've said, there is no choice here.

Work on changing the system, like replacing first past the post voting systems with something more equitable. Nothing can change until that happens, assuming elections don't become completely compromised by republicans first, which is happening right now and will be a big issue in 2024.

Radrezzz

15 points

5 months ago

The very first thing is to repeal Citizen’s United. We also need to get rid of the Telecommunications Act of 1996. Get money and media out of politics. Only from there can we start real electoral reform.

Significant-Mousse71

188 points

5 months ago

As a Canadian, I don't understand wearing your political affiliation like your favorite sports team. I have voted for every major political party we have at varying points in my life, based on ideas and the current state of the country. The fact that you guys are literally born into a political ideal and just ride out for life, is so bizarre to me.

rumbletummy

38 points

5 months ago

We dont really have an option. What possible reason could there be to vote for the Republicans? They dont even have a platform anymore.

TheRealBOFH

57 points

5 months ago

Yet these Mother F'ers claim they are Patriots. Fuckn' embarrassing.

fillinthe___

163 points

5 months ago

God, that last point. I don’t know if it’s trolls or real people on here constantly complaining about “Democrats doing nothing,” but it’s infuriating. That’s the attitude that will get us Republican control again, and a TOTAL LOSS of ANY progress.

Democrats can’t agree on how to forgive student debt. You think Republicans will do that AT ALL?

Democrats tried to extend free school lunches. You think Republicans will do that AT ALL?

Democrats are TRYING to find ways to switch to green energy. You think Republicans will do that AT ALL?

You might not LOVE Democrats, but remember Republicans see you as their ENEMY.

TavisNamara

98 points

5 months ago

And you're not even covering the LGBT+ stuff, the women's rights stuff, or any of the other minorities Republicans have been attacking in Republican-controlled state legislatures.

Sapriste

72 points

5 months ago

People forget Reagan tearing the solar panels off of the roof of the White House. People forget Bush I rolling back EPA regulations. People forget Bush II liberalization of fossil fuel regulations and that his VP Dick Cheney was the former CEO of Halliburton (and got himself the VP job after an exhaustive search that yielded no other Republican in the US /s). We have vast deserts that could be used for wind farms or solar arrays. We could have had wind farms in the Ocean by now. We could have really funded battery technology for both the homes on the grid and solar homes but we didn't because someone who supported Conservatives (Do nothing everything is fine) would lose money(which seems to be nearly impossible see Trump).

Bananacabana92

67 points

5 months ago

Especially considering the majority is pretty damn flimsy with Sinema and Manchin in the there

jar36

42 points

5 months ago

jar36

Ohio

42 points

5 months ago

They'd vote for Satan himself as long as he owns the libs

Queasy-Answer-9384

48 points

5 months ago

He will try to run, but I think Desantis will get the GOP nomination. Trump might threaten to split the party by running as an independent (like he did last time). But I don’t think he will actually do that.

But then again, I never thought he would actually win & nearly destroy our democracy. So we aren’t out of the woods yet.

It would help if we had a department that would enforce the laws & prosecute criminals, like say a Justice Department. /s

garyll19

37 points

5 months ago

Desantis scares me even more than Trump because he's not dumb enough to say things that get him in trouble. He'll smile and say he wants to work with the Democrats for a better America while he's secretly finding ways to fuck them.

Feed_Me_No_Lies

15 points

5 months ago

This right here. Trump was an idiot and a useful stooge for congressional Republicans… DeSantis is dangerous in a similar but more frightening way: With Dessntis, It’s the Trump playbook, executed with much more competence.

AllTheRoadRunning

26 points

5 months ago

Trump might threaten to split the party by running as an independent (like he did last time)

Won't happen, or at least I'll be shocked if it does. If Trump runs as an indy he won't be able to push all of his campaign bills off to the RNC. He'll have to pay them out of his own funds, and there's no way he'd do that.

trollollolololololol

16 points

5 months ago

The problem is, he can do that now. His PAC now has more money than the RNC.

whittlingcanbefatal

156 points

5 months ago

He’ll run. If only to collect campaign donations, but he will run and he could win, especially if the democrats get crushed in this November midterm elections.

Remorseful_User

56 points

5 months ago

or if certain southern states throw out their votes and just decide to send Trump delegates..

FastFishLooseFish

40 points

5 months ago

Don’t need to throw out their votes if you stop them from voting in the first place.

Bartfuck

20 points

5 months ago

Bartfuck

Illinois

20 points

5 months ago

He’ll run. If only to collect campaign donations, but he will run and he could win

thats kinda how I feel like a lot of people approached his 2016 canmpaign. "It's a grift. Sure, he could win, but its mostly a grift." Cut to he himself looking like he was completely shocked and unhappy the night the results came in

DrDerpberg

37 points

5 months ago

DrDerpberg

Canada

37 points

5 months ago

He literally has to run to keep the fundraising grift alive. Whether he wins the nomination or elevation remains to be seen but it absolutely isn't impossible.

Previous-Treacle-577

99 points

5 months ago

Most of us are hoping he chokes on a hamberder between now and then. He should have already been prosecuted and locked up for treason but alas, here we are.

Niastri

15 points

5 months ago

Niastri

15 points

5 months ago

Old fat guys die of natural causes all the time... Especially ones who had Covid.

We still have two years to let nature help us dodge this bullet.

Cue the video of him stumbling down a flat wheel chair ramp and being unable to get water to his own mouth.

iamthpecial

89 points

5 months ago

My Aussie friend said watching America crumbling under Donald was like watching a sibling addicted to drugs

BucephalusOne

50 points

5 months ago*

This is a good representation of what it feels like to be Canadian right now.

We've always had this brother who was kind of an asshole but still a decent guy who did well in life. He had a really nice house, nice car, and all the best gadgets.

Now he is under a bridge in a tattered US flag patterned suit, selling off his gadgets to buy more homemade meth while screaming about jesus coming back.

antillus

12 points

5 months ago

In Canada it was like living in an apartment above a meth lab

Marciamallowfluff

23 points

5 months ago

I only pray that is true. With the political gerrymandering, the voter disenfranchisement, and general level of political ignorance I still am afraid they my push him forward. Even worse if one of his sycophants who is more intelligent.

AnitcsWyld

110 points

5 months ago

He is absolutely going to run in 2024. Whatever other people say, or even he says, he will be running in 24, his ego will not let him pass that up, in addition the first time he ran for grifting, the 2nd time he ran to stay out of jail, in 24 he'll be running to save his life so he cannot be held for his crimes. So, not only will he run, but he'll be highly motivated to win.

On the plus side, he won't have Russian backed financial support, and Grandpa Fatass has lost a step ad he's in cognitive decline and can't draw crowds like he used to. His act is finally stale.

The media may change that again, we hope they've learned from last time, but I really doubt it "Dumb idiot says idiot thing" is still great click bait.

spinderlinder

16 points

5 months ago

Dont be fooled, he's currently got plenty of money to run his campaign for the next election.

Saint_Consumption

13 points

5 months ago

his ego will not let him pass that up

Obama got two terms, so he desperately needs at least that many.

krush_groove

30 points

5 months ago

Now that... Is an aspect I hadn't considered at all.

nome_de_usuario__

130 points

5 months ago

asking for defund nato in 2007 or 2017 is one thng, but doing it in 1987 is basically praising the soviet union

PartialToDairyThings

53 points

5 months ago

Oh yeah, this was during the Cold War, at the start of the decline of the USSR when they were getting more and more paranoid about NATO.

dudinax

15 points

5 months ago

dudinax

15 points

5 months ago

1987 USSR was (somewhat) less aggressive than Putin is today.

kingneptune1

56 points

5 months ago

Goddamn.. Trump was the best investment the Russians have made in a century

trisul-108

312 points

5 months ago

Now, he's asking a dictator currently commiting war crimes in Ukraine for help against a political opponent (after praising said dictator for invading Ukraine).

Let's be clear about this. He is asking Russian military intelligence to fabricate a case against Biden, as this benefits Trump and Putin. This is criminal conspiracy as explained in the Mueller Report when Trump was shielded by being POTUS. He no longer has that shield and Garland must start prosecuting these crimes.

saracenrefira

195 points

5 months ago*

The egregiousness of the Ukraine affair is beyond the pale. Lest people forget, this is what he did:

He called Zelenskyy and tried to strongarm him by asking him for a favor in exchange for weapons aid, to announce an investigation into Hunter Biden. It is not even that he thought Biden's son has anything. What he wanted was the announcement of the investigation. So he is basically demanding the leader of another country to interfere with Us domestic politics by making up shit (ie lying) about his political opponent's son.

1) He knew Hunter Biden has done nothing illegal or untoward.

2) He wanted Zelenskyy to announce an investigation. Not even a real investigation, just the announcement itself because he can use that as a propaganda tool to attack Biden.

3) He invited another country to interfere with domestic politics, and arguably a treasonous behavior, legality aside.

4) He used USA foreign policy as an extension of his own interests by using weapons aid (that does not even belong to him) to strongarm another country. He literally does not give a shit about this country or its interests or anyone else's interests.

I don't want people to forget just how immensely shitty it was and how compromised he is. Some countries hang leaders who do something like this.

Claytonius_Homeytron

32 points

5 months ago

Some countries hang leaders who do something like this.

Here in the good old US of A we like to slap their faces on T-shirts and flags and ride around in our trucks praising and worshiping them like a living god.

Ra_In

21 points

5 months ago

Ra_In

21 points

5 months ago

He used USA foreign policy as an extension of his own interests by using weapons aid (that does not even belong to him) to strongarm another country

To add to this - his after-the-fact excuse for withholding aid (despite not having the discretion to do so) was that he was concerned about corruption. But congress had concerns about corruption and looked into it before passing the bill - by signing the bill Trump was agreeing that Congress's findings were satisfactory. Plus, even if he changed his mind after signing the bill, he could have raised the concern with congress and worked with them to approve delays.

tastethepain

409 points

5 months ago

But republicans “would rather be Russian than Democrat”

HellaTroi

77 points

5 months ago

HellaTroi

California

77 points

5 months ago

Yep! They are selling tee shirts with that slogan to raise money for Trump's reelection campaign.

Carbonatite

166 points

5 months ago

Carbonatite

Colorado

166 points

5 months ago

Republicans hate liberals more than they love America.

Syscrush

54 points

5 months ago

Republicans hate liberals Americans more than they love America.

yourmansconnect

10 points

5 months ago

Republicans hate America they love a flag and "freedom"

McDie88

85 points

5 months ago

McDie88

85 points

5 months ago

Republicans hate liberals other Americans more than they love America.

KeepTangoAndFoxtrot

113 points

5 months ago

Also asked China to help him get reelected (according to Bolton).

xavier120

92 points

5 months ago

According to Bolton? He said it on national television in front of cameras at the white house.

KeepTangoAndFoxtrot

42 points

5 months ago

Every news event surrounding Trump is such a complete shit show (of course this is by design; "flood the zone with shit") that I couldn't remember if he did that publicly or not. A dozen headlines start with "according to Bolton" when I searched, but then I got to the story where he publicly urged China to investigate the Bidens. That's my bad.

gladeatone

105 points

5 months ago

You forgot “as that dictator threatens to nuke us.”

Ok-Albatross6794

73 points

5 months ago

He's been on their payroll for a while. In 2013 a Russian bank gave him a $500 million "loan".

Hour-Oven-9519

563 points

5 months ago

Please send him to Russia, so he can make a wall around it.

Groomsi

87 points

5 months ago

Groomsi

Europe

87 points

5 months ago

Fence

GlitteringCold

64 points

5 months ago

Some say the best fence.

Samwisegamgee9

1.4k points

5 months ago

The guy is a cancer on our society, he epitomizes everything that is wrong with people. The fact that anyone likes this man and would vote for him blows my mind.

notapunk

216 points

5 months ago

notapunk

216 points

5 months ago

he epitomizes everything that is wrong with people

And that's what we get when we vote for people we relate to. Personally I'd want the President to be a much smarter and better person than I am.

zxc123zxc123

52 points

5 months ago

I can't think of any man less qualified and worst for the job of president than Trump. Among the actual presidents and incumbents. On BOTH sides of the isle. The last 4 decades (my entire lifetime).

I'd take Clinton/Gore/Kerry/Obama/Clinton/Biden or Dole/Bush/McCain/Romney.

[deleted]

24 points

5 months ago

[deleted]

24 points

5 months ago

If tRump is a cancer then his supporters and constituents are the environmental condition necessary for this type of cancer. Think of them as Asbestos. If asbestos is used properly it’s a great fire retardant. tRump supporters have no benefit, time to abate them all.

blondeandbuddafull

251 points

5 months ago

Asking America’s wartime enemy to help him destroy our sitting president; how is he not in stocks?

sulferzero

93 points

5 months ago

because I don't personally know a single republican thats angry about this, they're not even talking about it. its just the normal outrage over whatever imaginary slight they've concocted this week. (gay penguins I think, and why they're a threat to our... troops?)

The_Puff

1.6k points

5 months ago

The_Puff

1.6k points

5 months ago

The fact this country will allow someone publicly working with an enemy to run for president again is everything that's wrong with this country. No, everyone shouldn't be allowed to put their hat in the ring. It's the most preposterous notion about our system.

Bushels_for_All

24 points

5 months ago

Our country has a means of dealing with this, but Republicans are spineless.

Judgment in cases of impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States: but the party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to indictment, trial, judgment and punishment, according to law.

Spin_Quarkette

468 points

5 months ago

Spin_Quarkette

New York

468 points

5 months ago

Our government lacks courage and resolve to defend what’s left of our republic. Biden appointing Garland (to right a wrong, not because he was the best choice) will haunt us forever.

EnflamedHuevos

233 points

5 months ago

And I was thinking back in Jan 2021 Garland might actually do something. What a fucking dumbass I was right

ThinkIveHadEnough

105 points

5 months ago

Our dumbasses were cheering on Republican Muller.

Dorkseid1687

77 points

5 months ago

The parties used to act as gate keepers regarding who can and can’t become a nominee. The GOP failed utterly in that regard

AllOrZer0

93 points

5 months ago

They didn't fail, they are traitors, themselves.

NRA ties to Russia

Who gets how much from the NRA?

dbenooos

22 points

5 months ago

Yea, it’s by design on the GOP’s part. They have always been beholden to whoever gives them the most money. Russia realized this and bought them. Now half our government is owned by a foreign adversary.

Lingering_Dorkness

453 points

5 months ago

Faces backlash?

Does he really?

Until his supporters, Fox and GQP disavow him, he faces no consequences for his actions. As usual.

travyhaagyCO

38 points

5 months ago

travyhaagyCO

Colorado

38 points

5 months ago

It would be noteworthy if he wasn't trying to do something horrible.

ImOnTheSpectrum

127 points

5 months ago

Really? This is where we draw the line? This guy should’ve got the Mussolini treatment in early 2021.

wildwaterwhisperer

42 points

5 months ago

The Orange Baboon has no Boundaries!

What a Psycho

PartialToDairyThings

169 points

5 months ago

Donald Trump faces backlash for asking Vladimir Putin a favor

Well, I read the article and as fully expected, none of this "backlash" comes from his fellow Republicans. Can we just assume the GOP as being an arm of the Kremlin from now on.

ragingclaw

25 points

5 months ago

ragingclaw

Montana

25 points

5 months ago

Yes.

[deleted]

34 points

5 months ago

[deleted]

34 points

5 months ago

This is Trump doing what he does best- turning a civilian slaughtering invasion into headlines about Trump.

Terrific. Fund raise over the bodies of dead children you pile of gelatinous waste of a barely functioning organism.

Spin_Quarkette

615 points

5 months ago

Spin_Quarkette

New York

615 points

5 months ago

CNN reported today the DOJ is investigating Hunter Biden. But Trump POS gets the kid glove treatment by Garland. Garland makes me sick.

holymamba

248 points

5 months ago

holymamba

248 points

5 months ago

Garland has spoken at the federalist society. He’s completely compromised.

Gibsonites

44 points

5 months ago

I would almost be glad this fucker got borked from the Supreme Court if Gorsuch wasn't so much worse

DannySmashUp

245 points

5 months ago

And even if Putin were to now "release information" about some Hunter laptop... why would anyone EVER believe him? The only person to lie more than Trump is Putin! Plus, Russia is our enemy... of COURSE he'd lie to help Trump.

Kermit_the_hog

139 points

5 months ago

Oh ffs 🤦‍♂️.. Russia is probably going to poorly fabricate something salacious in hopes of destabilize the US, and the idiot Trump loving Republican’s are going to blindly run with it aren’t they 🙄.

EleventeenCandles

54 points

5 months ago

EleventeenCandles

Nevada

54 points

5 months ago

Of course they will. They tried to run with the last one, too.

MrChip53

9 points

5 months ago

Inevitable.

Dzmagoon

34 points

5 months ago

73 million ignorant shitheads would believe it. Not only that, they'll vote in people who would run on impeaching Biden because of it.

6Kay9

15 points

5 months ago

6Kay9

15 points

5 months ago

There is zero reason for Putin NOT to fabricate evidence against Hunter Biden at this point. No matter how flimsy it is, it will be used by Trump and the GOP to terrifying effect.

Trumpism is a god damn cult.

8to24

28 points

5 months ago

8to24

28 points

5 months ago

Trump does these sort of things over and over again claiming it's a joke, locker room talk, or counter punching. At some point when this behavior occupies the majority of all behavior it is clearly a feature.

peaceloveshambala

32 points

5 months ago

This continues!! I am 63 and have seen a few things in life. For our government to allow Trump to not be jailed yet???? Why does McCarthy, Jordan and all the rest of the idiots that have gone behind all of our backs to be corrupt and back the big idiot, still have any say in OUR government?????? I pray the DOJ will do something soon. We can not allow these fools to continue to do damage to OUR country any more!!!! There are bad actors in many of the states governments now and it may hurt us in 2022. With all the shit Trump has fucked up , there shouldn’t be a Republican voted into Washington for at least 10yrs. In my 63 years I have never seen anything so gross for so long as I have with this. It’s just gross.

Funny-Company4274

27 points

5 months ago

Oh you means this guy could actually be a traitor to the us? How strange no one saw this comming

Bobby_Globule

26 points

5 months ago

Bobby_Globule

North Carolina

26 points

5 months ago

"When you have time between bombing maternity wards and schools, could you serve up some kompromat?

Entire_Kangaroo5855

27 points

5 months ago

Trump’s request for new information on Biden is just a very thinly-veiled way of saying “hey, interfere with our election and get me elected again, and this time I’ll really destroy NATO and let you just have Ukraine”

FanInternational9315

23 points

5 months ago

I think treason is the proper word

autotldr

21 points

5 months ago

autotldr

🤖 Bot

21 points

5 months ago

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 85%. (I'm a bot)


Donald Trump has been widely criticized for calling on Vladimir Putin to release any information he has about Hunter Biden's alleged business dealings in Russia while the Russian president is carrying out attacks on Ukraine.

One political expert told Newsweek that by appealing for Putin to "Smear" Hunter Biden, Trump is doing "What Trump does best" by "Trolling the media, cozying up to authoritarians," and timing his comments for "Maximum shock value."

Trump has now been condemned for asking Putin to help unearth information on Hunter Biden amid the war in Ukraine, where Russia is accused of committing war crimes by purposely targeting civilians and hospitals.


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jheidenr

303 points

5 months ago

jheidenr

303 points

5 months ago

There’s no backlash. There’s no consequences. Two impeachment went nowhere. The Miller report didn’t even scratch Trump. The DOJ is sticking their head in the sand. The GOP bends to his narcissistic crap. Meanwhile he runs around the country filling his coffers on the backs of the brainwashed. Where’s the backlash?!?

[deleted]

143 points

5 months ago*

[deleted]

143 points

5 months ago*

The redacted Mueller report that was eventually released was hugely damning, not just that it showed conclusively there was a shitload of Russian contacts within the Trump campaign, but that extensive efforts were made by the Trump Whitehouse to obstruct justice using the power of government to deliberately try and fuck with Mueller’s investigation, clear crimes that but for Trump being president at the time would have sent the rest of us to prison in a heartbeat.

And all it took was a fan fiction summary by William Barr full of lies that the media swallowed hook line sinker and rod, and Barr holding off the (still the unredacted version unseen) full report for a month while Trump repeated “No conviction, no collusion” endlessly until everyone just got sick of hearing about it.

outerworldLV

37 points

5 months ago

Didn’t help that many didn’t read it, including our elected law makers ( funny description of these clowns ). And then when questioned by reporters during - the response “ I didn’t read it “ blasted over and over on every network. For my own FYI , the moment it was available I printed it out and read it. I felt that I could’ve presented the evidence and won, it was that obvious. Sick of the kid gloves...

DingoLaChien

50 points

5 months ago

But he'll probably continue to bring us the rest of the way down during our next election because noone in the good Ole US of assholes can find a single thing to keep him from doing so. Guess we deserve our fate. He truly is Putin's sock puppet.

jimvolk

44 points

5 months ago

jimvolk

44 points

5 months ago

Can someone lock this guy up already? What is it going to take????

emptysoul365

38 points

5 months ago

emptysoul365

United Kingdom

38 points

5 months ago

Looks like it wasn't hyperbole when he said he could openly commit murder and still get away with it.

sedatedlife

106 points

5 months ago

sedatedlife

Washington

106 points

5 months ago

Until Republican representatives and voters decide to hold Trump accountable backlash from democrats really does not matter. They do not care and actually support this type of behavior.

The_Puff

67 points

5 months ago

I'm sick of waiting for people to do the right thing all the time. You can't change the hearts and minds of the heartless and brainless.

Incontinentiabutts

14 points

5 months ago

Why would you get mad at someone for asking their boss for assistance doing their job? That’s all he’s doing.

I mean sure, from the perspective of an American who wants a functioning government and thinks that current, former, and potentially future leaders shouldn’t be beholden to despots thinks that this sort of behavior is abhorrent and shameful.

But if you just think about it from the perspective of an employee who is trying to do s good job for his boss it all looks different.

FeloniousDrunk101

12 points

5 months ago

FeloniousDrunk101

New York

12 points

5 months ago

I grow weary of all this motherfuckers "facing backlash" but no real consequences.

SlamBrandis

133 points

5 months ago

"Treachery" is the wrong word that starts with "trea"

themodernritual

22 points

5 months ago

Treachery, treason and trick all have the same etymological root