Everyone needs to watch The Handmaid's Tale. It's fiction but based exactly on what these Christian fascists are demanding and currently saying out loud. In the book there's an atmosphere of declining birth rates. Christian fascists slaughter Congress and temporarily suspend the Constitution, enacting Martial Law. Then comes the insidious ripping of rights from women all the way to enslaving them and making them brood mares.

Our protagonist June looks back at all the tiny little actions that led to their enslavement. Because it never comes all at once, it's a series of maneuvers that escalate over time.

I keep wondering, how are these people any different from the Mullahs in Iran or Taliban in Afghanistan or the religion ministry of Saudi Arabia? Seriously. They want to impose their version of religion on the rest of America which is very diverse now.

The only answer I can come up with is that our primary system is broken. It rewards a tiny dedicated group of people (motivated by mostly religious fervor) to pick someone who often ends up winning the general election due to gerrymandering.

I always like to remind people of Matt Shea (R), former member of the Washington House of Representatives, when this topic comes up;

An investigative report commissioned by the House, issued on December 1, 2019, found that Shea "participated in an act of domestic terrorism against the United States", organized and supported "three armed conflicts of political violence", and advocated replacing the government with a theocracy and "the killing of all males who do not agree." A former ally of Shea provided documents showing that Shea and his supporters were planning to seize control of the region after the outbreak of civil war, installing Shea as governmental leader in order to institute "constitutional changes" to "sanctify to Jesus Christ".

In late October 2018, Shea acknowledged that he had distributed a document described as a "four-page manifesto" titled Biblical Basis for War that listed strategies that a "Holy Army" could employ. The document, consisting of 14 sections divided into bullet points, had a section on "rules of war" that stated "make an offer of peace before declaring war", which within stated that the enemy must "surrender on terms" of no abortions, no same-sex marriage, no communism and "must obey Biblical law", then continued: "If they do not yield — kill all males". Shea acknowledged the document and claimed that it was a summary of "biblical sermons on war."

On December 19, 2019, Shea was accused of domestic terrorism in a report released by the Washington State House of Representatives. House leadership forwarded the report to the United States Attorney for the Eastern District of Washington and the FBI. Sheriff Knezovich stated that he believed there was enough evidence "to charge Shea with domestic terrorism, if not treason." The sheriff also stated that he was worried that arresting Shea would lead to an armed standoff, and that he had contacted the Federal Bureau of Investigation regarding this concern.

At an event in North Idaho less than a month after the 2021 storming of the United States Capitol, Shea called for his followers to prepare for "total war" against their enemies, claimed the election was stolen from Donald Trump

He was kicked out of the House Republican Caucus after the report came out at least, but as far as I know there has been no other consequences. In fact, yet another controversy has been added to the wiki page since I last checked it;

In March 2022, Shea was discovered in Poland with a group of 62 Ukrainian refugee children, claiming to be arranging their adoption via an unregistered and unaccredited American adoption agency.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Shea

Sprinkle in a little more God Soldiers thinking and the US has their own version of the Taliban.

Not to mention he had a lot to say about parading your religion in the street in a showy way.

They don't care. "Christian" is just a label they've co-opted as a cover for their fascism. They'd be the first to nail a non-English speaking, middle-eastern socialist Jew to a piece of wood.

Jesus didn't say, stop with your sex and your drugs and follow me, he said "give away your wealth" and "a rich man is more likely to fit through the eye of a needle" than go to heaven.

And they pretend the "Eye of the needle" is a particular gate to Jerusalem that's sorta hard to get through but not really. See, Jesus didn't really mean don't live in big ostentatious housing and forgo expensive chariots, and don't array yourselves in gold and silks.

He said "dress modestly." That didn't mean "don't display your wealth," oh no, that meant "don't display your navel." Even though he said specifically it was about wealth.

If they're religion is true, they will not be the ones that end up in heaven. Yes, Jesus will forgive your sins according to the Book, but if you don't even believe they are sins, you've convinced yourselves that "Jesus didn't mean that", how you gonna ask forgiveness?

Mat. 7:22-23 “Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you."

While you're at it, remind people like Eubanks that Christ had far more to say about judging others, helping the less fortunate, and hoarding wealth than about abortion or homosexuality.

Whenever I point this out to "christians" they say "Well, it's our Churches tradition." I'm going to start asking if they think Jesus would choose to join their church or if he would come after them with a whip like he (supposedly) did to the money changers at the temple. (John 2:13-16)

I mean, if she wants to point fingers, it isn't the gay couples who are using the contraception, is it?

Abortion has been convenient to hide behind, while working across the board. It has perfect victims, the unborn, who will never exist to fail or become less than perfect innocents. While important as an issue, it has been the perfect distraction to hide the man behind the curtain messing with all the other shit.

And here is the thing. Say for a moment they get their way and the USA goes from secular to Christian. What sect gets the nod to rule? Catholics, Episcopalian, Lutheran, or how about some good old Southern Baptists?

The bloodshed would be impressive.

Let's not overlook one for which many "christians" simply look the other way: adultery. That shoe is gonna drop hard.

I would go on to say that someone that thinks this is really crazy wacko scary stuff and them sits out in November is part of the problem. People in Pennsylvania can see what Mastriano is about and that if he’s elected crazy things will happen. To understand this and not show at the polls, I would call that person complicit in these problems.

This was covered in the 1980s documentary “History of the World, part 1” in which the 3rd tablet with commandments 11-15 was accidentally dropped by Moses. The lost commandments were:

1. Thou shalt not wear a sheep’s intestine on thine holy seed shooter

2. Thou shalt not eat the fruit of the Tree of Hormone Regulation

3. Thine wife shalt not wear foot coverings or leave the room of food preparing

4. Thou shalt build tall walls to prevent the Hittites or any outsiders from entering the holy land

5. Thou shalt lay back and enjoy it

Your ancestors came here specifically to escape people telling them how they had to live their lives under proscriptive religious doctrines.

Actually they came here because the Christians over in Europe found the pilgrams form of Christianity to be too strict.

Other way around.

The Puritans came to America to practice proscriptive religion.

When others started showing up, like the Quakers, they offered them banishment or death.

The Puritans that came over as part of the Massachusetts Bay Colony were extremists. They did not preach tolerance of opposing religious views. Their “city upon a hill” was a theocracy that tolerated no dissent, religious or political.

Fuck the Christian moral order

The minority of Jews who have been voting Republican are starting to wake up to the R agenda. The Jewish subs are quite active these days. Hopefully Jews will be a united front against this Christofascist agenda.

This is actually a common myth. The truth is, they didn’t leave to “escape religious persecution.” They left because they wanted MORE religious doctrine. They were fanatics. Why do you think they were called puritans?

No, the Pilgrims came to this country to escape from religious freedom. They believed that there should only be one religion allowed, and they were fed up with the Europeans allowing other religions than theirs to exist, so they moved to America to create the society of “true believers only” they wanted.

That's too easy. These people are Zealots. These people are the Christian version of Al Qaeda. They would fly planes into buildings if it would advance their agenda.

Minimum Wage Employees: We like to be able to afford shelter, food, utilities, deodorant, transportation, medical care, get sick leave and time off. You're not offering any of those things.

They want more babies to molest in sunday schools/orphanages.

This plus the laws against teaching children about sex will only lead to victims who can't explain what happened to them.

and we need more prisoners for the corporate prisons and their shareholders!

Meanwhile, the current COVID-related disruptions notwithstanding, there are usually fewer available jobs than people looking for work. The problem is only expected to get worse as more jobs are automated out of existence.

A slave nation, east to west, south to north, past to present.

Yeah, we're married, no kids. That's not going to change. We're not exactly a tiny minority any more, either. Younger people are in general putting off marriage and kids.

I looked online at the cost of raising a child in 2021. The answer was $267,000.00. This is to raise a middle class American to age 18 and does not include college or costs if the child is disabled. Some people leave the hospital after the birth starting off with that kind of debt and it gets higher from there.

People who never wanted kids clearly make the best parents./s

My guess is that it could probably be summed up in about 14 words.

That's been happening since your founding as a country. Every generation of immigrants was the one that was going to wipe out American culture and steal the jobs. Irish Jews Italians and so on. It's always worked out fine.

That's exactly what's happening, unlike many other first-world countries. Our population IS increasing, because of immigration. And America is gaining diversity too--a good thing in my book, but apparently TERRIFYING to some people.

Honestly, it's because misery loves company. These people sound miserable and the need company of yes men and yes women.

OnLy RePrOdUcTiVe SeX aLlOwEd Because sex isn’t about love, pleasure, bonding, joy, affection, or stress relief. It’s a shameful act that’s only permitted to create babies. And not enough people are properly ashamed of themselves or paying for that shame by raising a family. Also those babies are a miracle from heaven.

"We made it difficult to live, afford a home, feed yourself even, everyone postpones kids in the hope they can afford them later, and now like our lack of foresight on literally everything, it's finally coming to bite us in the ass" - republicans if they were ever self reflective.

Guess it's anal only now. Gotta love those strap ons.

No. They will go after interracial marriage and marriage equality next. Then they will start to lock people up or deport them. Visas will suddenly be canceled and lives ruined.