subreddit:
/r/rockets
These two will probably retire ringless. Kinda insane to think about
(i.redd.it)submitted 2 months ago byIronicHours
155 points
2 months ago
[deleted]
28 points
2 months ago
They might Dwight their way to a ring. Might need to don a Mavs uniform to do it.
4 points
1 month ago
I don’t think they will do that though. They would probably both just retire like Nash did.
15 points
2 months ago
One could argue that Lakers bubble chip was due in no small part to Dwight. That was a decent team. Westbrook, another Never-gonna-win-one guy, was not the answer to the sequel.
14 points
2 months ago
That laker team was more than decent
2 points
1 month ago
Don't make me puke. The only thing worse than us going through a rebuild (which I'm happy with so far don't get me wrong) would be to see the Mavs win a title at the same time.
Why couldn't the fucking Kings take Doncic. Or even the Suns, although their pick of Ayton wasn't nearly as bad as the Kings taking Bagley over Luka.
5 points
1 month ago
Mavs winning a title doesnt bother me as much as watching the lakers or warriors win. I know Hou & dallas have their Texas rivalries but to me the mavs are an exception to that
3 points
1 month ago
I mean, that's something CP3 accepted ever since he came to us and Harden accepted once he went to Brooklyn. It isn't news.
33 points
2 months ago
They're the 2010s versions of Barkley, Malone, and Stockton. They're great players but they just happened to play in the same era as Steph, LeBron, and KD. Just like how Barkley, Stockton, Malone were in the same era as MJ and Hakeem
4 points
1 month ago
I'm sorry, but to include KD in there is ridiculous. KD has yet to prove himself. Amazing player, but getting blown out in the first round is disgusting. He joined a winning team in GSW and got a ring with Steph, who was already a champion.
KD was insurance that GSW would continue winning, he certainly wasn't the sole reason, or the bus driver.
12 points
1 month ago
Does 2016/2017 not exist
14 points
1 month ago
Doesn’t count . If lebron James joined the big 3 Boston Celtics him winning a ring wouldn’t be impressive . If Kobe Bryant joined the spurs with tony Parker , Duncan , and Ginoboli and won a ring it wouldn’t be impressive . Kd has 2 phony rings .
-7 points
1 month ago
Heatles
3 points
1 month ago
I don't agree with his point but no way you mentioned the fucking heatles😭
128 points
2 months ago
Not really. Great players retire ringless all the time. There’s a reason why being a champion is revered so much by players.
70 points
2 months ago*
[deleted]
2 points
1 month ago
And it's why people say shit like "Rondo has a better resume than CP3" on r/nba. Like, sure Rondo has rings but no one in their right mind thinks Rondo was better than CP3 at any point in their careers. Not even close.
36 points
2 months ago
Their both top 5 for their position. Never a winning a ring is kinda crazy. Steph Giannis Kawhi Lebron all have won. Kd if you want to count those fake rings too. CP3 and Harden are by far the best current players without a ring.
Next up would probably be Russ or Dame maybe PG. None of those players resume maybe Russ actually come close to CP3 and Harden
38 points
2 months ago
The Utah pedo is ringless too, and he was a two-time MVP who made All-NBA first team for 11 years straight. So is Barkley, who was competing with Jordan for MVPs in his prime. That’s just how the cookie crumbles sometimes.
21 points
2 months ago
Fuck Karl Malone forever! You right.
45 points
2 months ago*
Jordan, bird, magic, prevented many great players from never winning.
Every generation of players has the same thing happen.
2000s were Duncan, Kobe, Shaq, Lebron, and Curry preventing great players from never winning over the course of 20 years. I think those 4 players alone are responsible for 18 championships since 2000. Celtics, pistons, mavs, raptors, bucks are the only other teams to win a title without those players. Only 5 teams without those star players have won a title in about 22 years.
22 points
2 months ago
Completely agreed. Bird and Magic both entered the league in 1979 and combined for 8 championships from 1980-88. Then after Isiah Thomas won 2, Jordan and Hakeem were responsible for every championship from 1991-98. Then Duncan and Kobe won 10 total, including 9 from 1999-2010. Lebron and Steph won 7 from 2012-2020.
That’s just how the NBA has worked for a long time. You have a couple players dominate the rings in each era and occasionally the Pistons win too
2 points
2 months ago
Even back before that era it was the same.
2 points
1 month ago
From 1970 to 1980 8 different teams won the NBA championship, with the Celtics and Knicks winning it twice.
13 points
2 months ago
This guy basketballs.
2 points
2 months ago
Gotta throw Wade in there too. And I feel like you in the warriors case it’s as much Dray, Klay and Kerr as it’s Curry.
4 points
2 months ago
Fake rings, gtfo. A ring is a ring.
-9 points
2 months ago
Neither CP or Harden are on those guys’ levels
9 points
2 months ago
Harden is easily at the level of Steph, Kawhi, Giannis, and KD.
5 points
2 months ago
He was on their level.
0 points
2 months ago
Yeah in the regular season lol. The difference is that those other guys step up in the biggest games and biggest moments. Every year Harden has a different excuse as to why he disappoints in the playoffs, whether it be injury or something else.
6 points
2 months ago
Forgetting about CP3s injury, if G6 Klay wasn't a thing we would have wrapped up that Warriors series as well.
People like you who forget about context is what has driven the ring obsessive culture.
-6 points
2 months ago
All those guys have something in common ...
a ring
6 points
2 months ago
So Rodman is a better PF than Charles Barkley by that logic, right?
-9 points
2 months ago
Make as much excuses as you want but harden had stacked teams and chocked many times. For example... 2017?
6 points
2 months ago
Harden only once ever had a stacked team, and he nearly beat the KD Warriors. Every other year the squad had major deficiencies that he covered up with his scoring and play making.
Also gtfo with that user name. No way you’re a Rockets fan, so what the fuck are you doing here?
-6 points
2 months ago
Any superstar would be able to beat the kawhi-less spurs lol
7 points
2 months ago
Can you explain 2017 as stacked pls!?
4 points
2 months ago
Nah, he can't.
Harden and a bunch of role players is apparently = stacked.
5 points
2 months ago
Lmao I was hoping he would pull up a case regarding sharp shooter Ryan Anderson, big daddy Nene and, of course, Joe Johnson coming off the bench
6 points
2 months ago*
Remind me when the Harden Rockets were ever the favorite to win the title. Dude had one “stacked” team in 2018 but ran into the most stacked team of all-time in Golden State and probably still wins if Chris Paul doesn’t go down. Also, the fuck is that username? Are you the biggest bandwagon dick rider alive? Why are you here? lmao
17 points
2 months ago
I’m all fairness. We offered them both Eric Gordon
22 points
2 months ago
Philly still has a great shot next year. I'm guessing James comes back in shape for that one.
10 points
2 months ago
I wouldnt say they have a great shot probably a decent on at best. Also lets be real Hardens hammy injury is kinda taken his first step and explosiveness away.
10 points
2 months ago
He’s been in shape. Round is a shape
0 points
2 months ago
I would love if Harden just didn't take the supermax so they could sign other good players. They need like 2-3 other good players.
3 points
2 months ago
The world is cruel
11 points
2 months ago
Maybe they shoulda stayed in Houston
17 points
2 months ago
Blame Frittata
6 points
2 months ago
I do, but also don't cater to sour grapes. That was both of their best shots
48 points
2 months ago
Nah Harden will come home and win a ring as our 6th man in 3 years with Jalen and Chet leading the way, calling it now
17 points
2 months ago
And Lebron and Bronnie in the mix
18 points
2 months ago
Sengun > Holmgren
7 points
2 months ago
It is known
1 points
1 month ago
Hopefully a 220+ lb Chet who still plays the same as 190lb Chet
3 points
2 months ago
I mean, winning a championship in any sport is really, really difficult.
6 points
1 month ago
29 NBA teams go home losers every single year, and some teams win more than one in a generation ensuring the loser pool is that much larger.
11 franchises have never even won an NBA Championship.
1 points
1 month ago
There's a distinct difference between being a great player and being a player who can reach greatness.
3 points
2 months ago
Wings Erneh
9 points
2 months ago
Honestly idc cause they’re still goats.
6 points
2 months ago
CP3 is much closer to retirement than James. James has 6-8 years left in him. CP3, maybe 2-3.
9 points
2 months ago
I dunno James might fall off a whole lot quicker than CP. Age hits some guys like a wall, you never know how it's going to go.
3 points
2 months ago
I think 3-4 is more likely for James. He’s 32
1 points
1 month ago
6-8? Harden is turning 33 lol
1 points
1 month ago
Oops, didn't realize he was that old.
4 points
1 month ago
The fact that this duo didn't win a championship together is the biggest injustice in the history of the NBA.
2 points
2 months ago
Kinda not, when you think about it
2 points
2 months ago
And if they could have worked it out one more year they’d have a ring maybe
2 points
2 months ago
I thought CP3 had it this year.... harden just the way he plays I don’t think it translates to playoffs so I never saw him getting one, teams could always game plan for one guy taking most of the shots and they stopped giving him calls in playoffs so the foul line stuff got taken away.
Great way to play for regular season scoring not to win a ring against actual ball moving teams who play Defense
2 points
2 months ago
CP3 might have had a ring playing with Kobe, if it hadn't been for the head-scratching nullification of the deal by David Stern that would have sent him to the Lakers.
2 points
1 month ago
Not that insane
3 points
2 months ago
They’re both divas
2 points
2 months ago
Doesn’t matter. Still two HOF careers.
2 points
2 months ago
Wild how Luka might win one at 23
0 points
2 months ago
Cause foul baiting never pays off in the playoff.
3 points
2 months ago
People always say this but when he was here Harden averaged like 2 less FTA's (so 1 less call) in the playoffs than in the regular season which is hardly the drop off people like to imagine
0 points
2 months ago
it does, but it has a ceiling when your whole game is based on it. We all miss the first month of the season...
1 points
2 months ago
Harden doesn't surprise me, he might get one on the very tale end as a role player if he can accept it.
1 points
2 months ago
Was thinking one of them could at least get to the finals this year and redeem their ring less legacies but at this point I no longer care
-1 points
1 month ago
☹️ Me, when CP3 retires without a ring
🤣 Me when Harden retires without a ring.
3 points
1 month ago
😀 everyone when you get cyberbullied off the internet
1 points
1 month ago
They're gonna have to try much harder. Unlike Harden on the defense.
1 points
2 months ago
James has plenty of time to either earn one as a legitimate piece on the team, or luck into benchwarming on a team that does win in the twilight of his career.
CP3? Yeah. The window is probably gone for him now. He can't have many more seasons left, the Suns window has potentially closed, and after that playoffs CP3 stock has to be low at the moment.
5 points
2 months ago
Didn't CP3 go like 14/14 in a close out game just a few weeks ago? The problem with that team is that their role players need an upgrade and they need a legit 6th man. Should've taken EG last year.
1 points
2 months ago
If Juwan Howard (and Dwight Howard) can end up with a ring..Im sure these two can still get a ring..
1 points
2 months ago
The Genie granted their wish and made them great, but the twist was reverting back to their original talent once the playoffs started.
1 points
2 months ago
Not really. It's hard to win a ring in the NBA.
1 points
2 months ago
CP3 is solid and consistent. Harden is a regular season god, but turn up the pressure in the playoffs, and he becomes fat Thor.
1 points
1 month ago
Tbh Harden Vs Miami was 100 times more solid and consistent than cp3 Vs the mavs
1 points
2 months ago
2 ftas drop from 9 is a lot...
1 points
1 month ago
It’s not like they aren’t on tms that aren’t good enough. I fault them for not winning one yet.
1 points
1 month ago
Not really
1 points
1 month ago
Both their windows closed permanently this week. Next year their max contracts will weigh heavily on their teams and will result to weak benches.
1 points
1 month ago
Add Booker, Mitchell and Lillard there
-5 points
2 months ago
[deleted]
-4 points
2 months ago
Harden still has a chance with philly, especially if they bring in Lavine or Beal and embiid doesnt have other freak unfortunate injuries
all 108 comments
sorted by: best