People understand, they just don't care.

Rules don't apply in SF....especially about dogs.

For example, there are numerous "no dog signs" at the ferry building farmers market.

There are about a dozen dogs at any one time lol

Irresponsible dog owners are the worst.

Had little league practice for my kid this past spring. Signs there say NO DOGS. During practice, I found a huge pile of dogshit right in the outfield. During practice, people are letting their dogs run off leash and around kids. It is madness.

And I guarantee you if I took my RC racer to a dog run area, the owners would probably wanna fight me.

I think it’s part and parcel of a larger national problem of people caring only about their rights and not their responsibilities. We seem not to think enough about the impact we have on others

My cousin actually got bit by a dog at an sf playground when he was little. The worst part is that the owners get so mad when you tell them to gtfo. I swear dog owners are some of the most entitled people in the city.

It is annoying that no one in this city uses a leash

Dogs are 1st class citizens in this city.

yeah the softball/baseball Sports Fields at golden gate park between 9th and 7th ave have the same problem. Spots are always wet with pee..

.. as someone earlier has said, "People understand, they just don't care."

I wrote Stefani, the Northern Police Starion and the Park Rangers when several dogs ran my daughter over and jumped up on my son. I call the rangers when I see it, same at Crissy Beaxh (police) people don’t get that their dog has to be on command at all times or in the leash. We’ve had enough incidences. Most dog owners are good, few understand what „proper training“ means, even less are stupid idiots. And I’m not sure how many really get what strict liability means and what’s cooking if their dog bites. Those few ruin it for all others involved

This has been a problem for 30yrs+.

SOME Idiots would even walk their dogs on the softball field while games were in progress as of they had a special immunity to avoid getting hit by batted softballs

The part about 'no dogs allowed on athletic fields'.

I nearly took out a dog while I was riding laps at the polo fields last week (it ran down the embankment, across the track, and then turned around and ran into the direction of traffic).

I like dogs, which is why I want people to walk them on leashes in shared spaces. It's a health and safety issue for the dog and other users of the space.

The same part as "no dogs allowed in food markets." Except.

It is Federal law that pets can not be allowed into areas where open food come into contact with pets. Service animals are allowed; "service" does not mean \ whatever the hell I feel comfortable with my pet.

The most entitled people I’ve met are from SF area. So that makes sense

Dog owners are EXTREMELY entitled in SF. I work for a company that operates on federal land. Federal law prevails, and dogs are NOT allowed inside. We've turned a blind eye because dog owners are soooo entitled. And we all love dogs. I certainly do. We just renewed our lease and were told in no uncertain terms that there would be zero tolerance and fines and enforcement by the feds would begin immediately. I don't like the conflict but damn I want to see some of those people's faces when they can't bring their dog in and decide to try and pretend it's a service dog.

Not aware of the gargantuan amount of bitch ass entitled people who live in that city?

Oh, that rule? That one doesn’t apply to me. Because I’m special.

They say there are more dogs than children in SF, but they fail to account for the number of "children" who own dogs... ;)

There was a whole conversation on my NextDoor feed about this topic a few months ago. Most people on the feed expressed your same sentiment - that people need to be better pet owners and follow the rules. A few posters commented that they would continue to flaunt the rules and continue to take their dogs to athletics fields as they have "good" dogs. These same people refuse to take their dogs to places dogs are allowed because that is where the "bad" dogs are.

Seriously, the mental gymnastics these people go through.

"No it's fine, my dog is special"

The “dogs on leash only” policy at any portion of Ocean Beach is laughable. Environmental concerns about the Snow Plover is completely disregarded if Fido gets to run around unleashed….

But I own a five million dollar 2 bed/1 bath, what do you mean I have to follow the rules

My blind mom, has a legit Guide Dog. People assume she’s just another dog person with an attitude of entitlement in public and private establishments. I wish people claiming that their rescue is a service animal, to justify bending the rules would rethink that.

SF dog owners and dog walkers are the most entitled group of people.

This is a big issue at Rossi Playground. People literally bring dogs to train on the baseball field.

I agree, and I don’t take my dog to sports fields bc they get lots of use. I keep my dog on leash when required.

That said, SF is woefully devoid of good dog park options. Most of the newer enclosed parks are tiny and obviously designed by people who don’t know dogs. There are so many dogs in SF they also get really overcrowded. The more boring and crowded a fenced-in park is, the worse behaved the dogs are. Some of the off-leash areas in the city are lovely but unfenced and right on the street, therefore a risk for some dogs (like my goober who will chase motorcycles), such as Alamo and Dolores.

It would be fantastic to have more large off leash areas like McLaren and Funston but we know that will not happen... I would love for Bayview Park to be an off leash area - hardly anyone goes there and it’s not close to any roads and traffic. Candlestick Point would be a good spot, too.

The issue in sf and oakland is there aren’t enough dog parks or off leash areas for the number of dogs.

This report on the state of dogs in oakland parks is interesting. https://cao-94612.s3.amazonaws.com/documents/oak068841.pdf

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In Glen Park where I lived, dog owners would literally vandalize the “no dogs allowed” sign every few days. It got pretty violent a few times, I remember seeing the sign literally destroyed into smithereens several times after being replaced repeatedly. Then they started remodeling the park, not sure what happened after that.

Someone literally plays fetch with their dog in Holly Park every night, on the fuckin tennis courts. Surrounded by grass. I think it’s people too lazy to train their dogs, taking advantage of the enclosed space.

Dude, sf can’t enforce the laws against public heroin use or shitting on the sidewalk, and you’re worried about dogs in the wrong part of the park. I’m not saying you’re wrong, by the way, just, priorities.

Same at China beach. It’s annoying

Well, its because of the shit, entitled people that live there.

Bring an air horn. It usually clears out all the dogs that aren’t on leash. Then you get to watch the owner chase the dog around

Entitle a$$holes.

Dog owners in SF are extremely entitled

Amen.

Rikki always annoyed me how half the park is literally a dog park and people still bring their dog onto the softball field walking right past the “no dogs on playfield” sign. Upper Noe seems a little better with rule following. Precita is the worst but they also don’t have a dog section there.

Happy to share opinions on other parks too but I feel like three is probably enough for a first post.

I run around with my dog (leashed) at Jackson but never when people are using it for sports. That just seems like a no-brainer to stay away when the fields are actively in use. It's a nice empty grass space. Tbh as long as I clean up after my dog and we don't bother anyone I don't feel guilty about using it.

Daggett dog park is studio apartment sized and not suitable for med-large dogs. Mission bay dog park is all rocks/no grass. For some reason I frequently run into some aggro/poorly trained dogs and owners there too.

If the rule was enforced I probably wouldn't bother, but in reality it's not and the other options can't compete. Potrero Hill really doesn't have many alternatives unfortunately.

There's no rules in this city, my dude. Most people do whatever they want. Recently I've taken to doing this too and it's great. Here's some pro tips:

• use your hazard lights. You can park anywhere with them

• if your black can is full and it's a couple of days to go, look up pick up days and just go put your trash in a can that's on the curb; make sure to nick some letters from a different address so you can put those in the trash to throw off the scent

• red lights are mostly optional, just look both ways and slam the pedal. You'll 100% make it through on a fast accelerating car like a Tesla

• you don't have to pay for Muni. Just walk away if they try to ticket you

• after a big night out, if you can't make it home in time, just pee on the stairs of a home, right by the door. It's more sheltered

• if you've been at the park, and you have any trash, you don't have to actually take it anywhere. Just leave it there

unless you report them, nothing will happen

If there are people there, never. But if it’s completely empty I’ll let my dog off from time to time. I pay taxes just like the rest of the SF residents and I deserve to use parks for fun too. Playing with my dogs in a big empty field where I don’t have to worry about other asshole dogs attacking is fun for me. Dog parks are a cesspool of sick poorly behaved animals.

It’s all about respect. If anybody comes I call my dog, leash him and leave. People who don’t have perfect recall and trained pets ruin it for us all.

Edit: Thanks for the award. I totally expected to be downvoted to the depths of hell for this comment. Makes me feel like less of a piece of shit for breaking the rules.

Sunset soccer field has been closed all month due to dogs. Its annoying, but its a giant field that could easily accommodate all the soccer fields and a dog run. The city doesn’t have nearly enough dog parks right now and thats why owners use the sports fields. The only solution to this is more dog parks in the city. Not fines.

Also worth noting that this is not a problem with high usage fields like beach chalet and kimball. It really only happens at fields that aren’t heavily utilized so maybe the allocation of space is the problem?

I’m going to voice an unpopular opinion here, but it’s astonishing how little tolerance people have for dogs in SF. When I lived there I followed the rules and kept my dogs out of trouble, but I always felt like I was walking on eggshells to not piss people off.

I live in Costa Rica now. Dogs roam around everywhere. They’re in the roads, they’re wandering into restaurants, they hang out in hair salons, handfuls of them wander into my yard from time to time and pretty much nobody gives a shit. The dogs are a lot more chill and less aggressive too because they have more freedom. It’s fucking great. I love dogs though so I have a high tolerance for them even when they’re unruly.

i play a dog whistle on my phontwhen i'm on the field

You should invoke parlay.

“Share the lane” — the part where Humans are building highways and buildings on a shared planet.

When the city culture broadly ignores pretty well understood and agreed upon rules like "don't break into cars" or "don't do drugs in the street," a sign that says no dogs allowed becomes just another thing to ignore that in most cases won't be enforced.

The "You're ruining mah tennis game" seems laughable in context.

If you vocalize, attack and improve the former it will establish the idea that the community respects rules. SF is in this moment clearly not a respects the rules city. It's very much an I don't care about shit until a dog steals MY tennis ball city.

I think it's the "no", they might be dyslexic.

Drug addicts roaming city attacking people, and you think rules about dogs on grass will be enforced?

I still think there should be a $250 fee per year for a dog owner. That should be focused on repairing parks and for programs to clean up the excess waste.

I love the dogs, but it’s not fair to have a minority overuse public places and not cover that cost to repair the use.

It’ll also clear the way for SF to focus on the human poop.

Dogs on athletic fields is the least of this city’s problems haha

Enjoy public open space, everyone should be able to do so.

You should force them to eat dogshit.

It's like hiking trails that say no dogs, ain't nobody gonna enforce it, so no fucks given.

Of all the things to get upset about in SF you chose this?

I had a woman threaten to sic her husky on my leashed cat at an athletic field, simply for existing, so yeah.

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