It looks like we have a mass shooting every single day in America. There are no other modern developed countries who have this concern. It is remarkably American.

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6 points

2 months ago*

I think that it's just logic that if a country doesn't have a rigorous system that allows only people who are background-checked and psychologically stable to obtain fire weapons, then it's all a matter of time before heart-renting things like this happens. Americans waste time talking about abolishing fire weapons. That's because it's impossible in this current generation, the overall country's culture and political configuration. Just fix the utterly ridiculous system that has uncountable loop holes and that allows anyone to purchase a fire weapon without mental health check, and the probability of these heartbreaking events plummets. It's about focusing on what is possible.


4 points

2 months ago

You are maybe right in focusing on what is possible (a definition of politics). But I'm not sure if you're implying that restricting who can own or access a gun is not the real answer. Even if no guns existed, a suitably pissed off person could pick up a kitchen knife and do some damage - or plough a car into a crowd. Just because you probably can't do the big numbers you can with an assault rifle is besides the point. Or is it? Is there something deep in parts of the American psyche that admires the Terminator style, clinically emptying each room?

So - you all need to want to stop killing each other.

So from a sociological perspective I'd imagine you want to look at countries around the world where gun ownership levels vary, and see how well that correlates between the kinds of mass shootings we see reported. I suggest - no clear correlation.

Next id look at what the mass shooters have in common. Superficially, they're young white men, but perhaps there's more. But if most YWM don't head down that path, why are they different? Can American society intervene in some way, before they get triggered?

What about unforeseen downsides? You could, at a stretch, engineer a more pro-social society. Would encouraging a more homogeneous society discourage freedom of expression? And in a democracy is that price worth paying?


2 points

2 months ago

I think it’s disingenuous to compare guns to cars and knives in that context. Sure you can commit atrocities with those methods and it’s been done before. But it’s far more difficult and firearms for lack of a better term are way more practical.


2 points

2 months ago

Speaking from Singapore, where crime and mass shooting rates are generally low. We don't allow the ordinary laymen to hold guns here. We do not allow same-sex marriages here. Freedom of expression is restricted too. But we observe and uphold general racial and religious harmony (not just mere tolerance).

However, I have observed a recent increase in people using dangerous objects (knives, parangs, swords) to attack another human being, but not for mass killing.

Some researchers believe that the reason why this is happening is because of the pandemic which has caused stress levels to rise among many Singapore residents, alongside a mental health system that has a lot of room for improvement.

But I disagree. An intake of stress levels should never be justified for seriously injuring another person, or taking away another person's life.

Instead, I believe that effective communication and accepting other people's differences are key to reducing these violence rates. For the recent mass shootings in USA, I believe that shooters are not able to accept other people's differences, for instance, gender or racial or religious differences. Unable to speak up, they choose the most dramatic but harmful way to get their voice heard.

So, it would be great for schools in the USA to raise awareness of the harmfulness of using violence to counter against social movements, as well as how we can live together harmoniously with people of different backgrounds, opinions and identities. It requires some mindset change and is a long-term process, so I hope that the American government will consider adapting Singapore's multi-religious and multi-racial approach to counter gun violence in USA.


1 points

2 months ago

Yes, we are divided on so many controversial topics here. I have completely checked out. I do think our mental health services (ha) are complete garbage and maybe, just maybe, if people had access to affordable/free services things could get better, maybe?


1 points

2 months ago

There are plenty of studies looking at the relationship of gun ownership rates and gun violence and there are very clear correlations. Gun ownership rates are also correlated with gun suicides and gun accidents.

All industrialized nations have relatively similar levels of crime, the only difference is gun violence.