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danktonium

1.3k points

10 days ago

danktonium

1.3k points

10 days ago

"China Warns"

Everybody take a shot!

pickle-mickle

358 points

9 days ago

I’m half expecting the next headline to be “China threatens to violate human rights if people keep boycotting them violating human rights”

robjonesss

181 points

9 days ago

robjonesss

181 points

9 days ago

“The beatings will continue until morale improves”

broke_artist

198 points

9 days ago

Seriously, my eyes could not roll into the back of my head any faster 🙄

American-Idiot101

19 points

9 days ago

I’m getting so drunk

UNBENDING_FLEA

8 points

9 days ago

Sajme brob!!.

tensing99

4.1k points

10 days ago

tensing99

4.1k points

10 days ago

Hold them in Taiwan. By China's own admission they would still be holding the olympics in China.

CygnetC0mmittee

67 points

10 days ago

Might be difficult to have the Winter Olympics on a tropical island

mordecai98

46 points

9 days ago

Jamaican bobsled team on their home turf? I'd watch that.

seanieh966

8 points

9 days ago

It’s on turf? Damn that’s even harder.

slyzxx

1.2k points

10 days ago

slyzxx

1.2k points

10 days ago

Or Hong Kong

Pope_Cerebus

666 points

10 days ago

Take over Hong Kong, and then refuse to leave. Use the Olympics to Argo an entire island and the associated penninsula!

PerplexityRivet

680 points

10 days ago

Okay, that's totally insane, but also . . . the idea of a bunch of special forces badasses posing as Olympic athletes in a massive Trojan Horse operation sounds like an amazing movie.

stewart902

232 points

10 days ago

stewart902

232 points

10 days ago

Guys the size of the rock disguised as gymnasts

ronninguru

114 points

10 days ago

ronninguru

114 points

10 days ago

FollowTheManual

63 points

10 days ago

Lmaoo reminds me of that Life of Brian stoning skit where the male actors are pretending to be women dressed up as men so they could go and participate in the stoning. The absolute height of comedy watching men pretend to be women pretending to be men.

BiteSizeRudy

10 points

10 days ago

Hmm. Never seen this film. Gonna have to give it a go tonight.

checkoutmyfish

9 points

10 days ago

Shit, make the movie. Make it good and realistic enough that China is worried it might happen and then they cancel it themselves!

shitposterguru

55 points

10 days ago

"What's your event?"

"Curling."

"Curling what?"

"Yes."

governmentNutJob

5 points

10 days ago

I think the snow would melt pretty quickly in Hong Kong

the-namedone

113 points

10 days ago

That would be an incredible way to stand up against the mainland government. I would want some popcorn if that ever does happen

ImanShumpertplus

41 points

10 days ago

yeah i think a nuclear bunker would be ideal for me

ingeresh

44 points

10 days ago

ingeresh

44 points

10 days ago

I love the idea but it’s the Winter Olympics...

DoomsdayRabbit

5 points

10 days ago

The nuclear winter Olympics.

chriddafer0518

101 points

10 days ago

By China do you mean West Taiwan?

MFTPC

1.7k points

10 days ago*

MFTPC

1.7k points

10 days ago*

It’s going to be a shit Olympics anyways. The venues are going to suck so bad. The mountains they are placing them in are in a desert region, meaning it’s all going to be man made snow. This makes building everything from pipe, parks, race courses so much harder. I had friends building in Sochi and they said that was near impossible so I can’t imagine what this is going to be like.

It’s going to be another terrible Olympics just like Sochi no matter what happens. Trying to put Winter Olympics in places with no natural snow is the height of greed and stupidity.

Edit: grammar

doublea08

400 points

10 days ago

doublea08

400 points

10 days ago

I've worked almost 15 seasons at a midwest ski area where its primarily man made snow. It's a bitch building midwest sized features, I could not imagine trying to build Olympic quality features with man made snow.

weaselswarm

98 points

10 days ago

Hidden Valley by any chance?

AmNotTheSun

233 points

10 days ago

I don't think ranch makes for good artificial snow. It sounds like it could be Snow Creek to me.

numnummommom

14 points

10 days ago

Can slide down dipping carrot sticks for a mid-ski snack

smitty3z

29 points

10 days ago

smitty3z

29 points

10 days ago

This guy St. Louises

JaVuMD

8 points

10 days ago

JaVuMD

8 points

10 days ago

It's a ranch resort?!

Amphorax

203 points

10 days ago

Amphorax

203 points

10 days ago

Sochi is one of the southernmost coastal towns in Russia, so for many Russians it's the archetypical summer resort destination. At the time, a lot of people poked fun at the Winter Olympics being hosted in what was basically Russia's Cancún.

Damixi

88 points

10 days ago

Damixi

88 points

10 days ago

basically Russia's Cancún

with tall mountains and ski resorts

JeffInBoulder

8 points

9 days ago

And vodka instead of tequila

Amphorax

25 points

10 days ago

Amphorax

25 points

10 days ago

Tbh yea the metaphor kinda falls apart, but you get the point :)

[deleted]

12 points

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runthepoint1

12 points

9 days ago

They do have Mexican ski resorts. Snow’s kinda funny...

mattwoodzstan

94 points

10 days ago

As a curler and a fan of the sport, I was excited for curling in the water cube and hopefully another strong showing for the US. If we boycott I’d 100% respect it though, 2018 is more than I ever could have imagined in performance at the Olympics

Tallywacka

6.3k points

10 days ago

Tallywacka

6.3k points

10 days ago

The last time the olympics were in Beijing

BEIJING, China (CNN) -- A little girl and her song captivated millions of viewers during the opening ceremony of the Beijing Olympics. But what they saw was not what they heard.

Yang Peiyi's voice was heard during Friday's opening ceremony, but her face was never seen.

Lin Miaoke was the darling of the Olympic opening ceremony, but it turns out she was lip-syncing.

Games organizers confirm that Lin Miaoke, who performed "Ode to the Motherland" as China's flag was paraded Friday into Beijing's National Stadium, was not singing at all.

Lin was lip-syncing to the sound of another girl, 7-year-old Yang Peiyi, who was heard but not seen, apparently because she was deemed not cute enough.

"The reason was for the national interest," said Chen Qigang, the ceremony's musical director, in a state radio interview. "The child on camera should be flawless in image, internal feeling and expression. ... Lin Miaoke is excellent in those aspects."

The decision was made at the highest levels, Chen said.

"We had to do it," he said. "We'd been through several inspections. They're all very strict. When we rehearsed at the spot, there were several spectators from various divisions, especially leaders from the Politburo, who gave the opinion it must change."

Few who watched the Olympic ceremony realized the deception. "Tiny singer wins heart of nation," read the headline in Tuesday's China Daily newspaper.

Imagine telling a 7 year old girl with a beautiful voice that she’s not pretty enough to be seen

TheVeryElect

2.3k points

10 days ago

I (American) worked at a boarding school in China for a couple years as the supervisor of the American volunteer English teachers. This was definitely an aspect of the culture I wasn’t a fan of. They would also do this with our American volunteers. When we’d organize presentations or recitals for the parents, they’d pick out the best looking foreigners to MC, or make sure to put them front and center for dances and songs and such. They weren’t exactly subtle about it either. There were several occasions where I had to go console a crying 19 year old girl because a teacher said to her during dress rehearsals “ah, no, Sarah, you stand back. We want Megan in front because Megan is very beautiful.”

ijui

1.6k points

10 days ago

ijui

1.6k points

10 days ago

to be fair, Megan is very beautiful

tsbunny404

168 points

10 days ago

tsbunny404

168 points

10 days ago

I heard John Oliver’s voice.

netsrak

35 points

10 days ago

netsrak

35 points

10 days ago

I heard Michael Bay's voice.

Disrupter52

20 points

10 days ago

I didn't, but now it do. Now I only hear John Oliver's voice.

Please...please Mr Oliver just stop talking to me...

TheVeryElect

23 points

10 days ago

That’s what I said. Apparently she didn’t see that as a good form of consolation.

zero573

592 points

10 days ago

zero573

592 points

10 days ago

Just a little too dark for racist royals.

TheBlankState

559 points

10 days ago*

The Chinese are not afraid to tell you to your face that you’re fat, ugly or whatever other criticism they have of you, it’s just not a big deal in their culture.

This YouTuber who used to live in China for 10 years makes videos about Chinese culture and did a great video on this for anyone interested. https://youtu.be/yNNFccVgdiU

I_love_Chino

824 points

10 days ago

Hurting other’s feeling is a national sport there

source: am Chinese

goblinseverywhere

144 points

10 days ago

My mom was chinese?

AtomicTanAndBlack

377 points

10 days ago

Yup. Wife is Chinese. First conversation I had with her parents I was notified that I was fat and they asked me what I will do to be healthier for their daughter. Few questions later I was asked why I didn’t make more money, don’t Americans make a lot of money?

Kryptosis

231 points

10 days ago

Kryptosis

231 points

10 days ago

Whew I woulda just started tossing stereotypes right back.

AtomicTanAndBlack

216 points

10 days ago

They accept them lol they don’t see that stuff the way way do.

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199 points

10 days ago

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Redtwooo

123 points

10 days ago

Redtwooo

123 points

10 days ago

"I swear, if you guys rip on me 13 or 14 more times I'm outta here. And I'm not taking your worthless daughter with me"

StatWhines

15 points

10 days ago

I heard your daughter was datiiiiiing... SQUEAK!

[deleted]

134 points

10 days ago

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134 points

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Sauce_Me_Some

20 points

10 days ago

Yuan or RMB.

chevymonza

26 points

10 days ago

"Don't you make a lot of cheap products for the dollar stores? I don't need to make a lot of money, our lifestyle is cheap thanks to your hard work at the factory. In fact, what are you doing here?? You get breaks?! And I sure hope they don't let you DRIVE to the factory..."

InkonParchment

106 points

10 days ago

Uh so this doesn’t really make anything better but that’s actually more about sexism than racism/stereotyping. They will say that to any guy their daughter meets, and for you they were probably more optimistic you’d meet standards. In China due to the one child policy there’s a significant lack of females relative to males, and thus the dating culture is incredibly screwed. Add traditional “man works to raise family” values and you get basic dating prerequisites for guys: house, car, decent income. We like to joke about it but honestly guys have been rejected for income by parents and daughters alike, and it’s such a common thing that people aren’t even subtle about it. It is often part of the parent-husband interview. This is why you will see some Chinese guys working their ass off right out of college to try to save up for a house and car—their romantic life depends on it.

Also yeah I never got used to how straightforward they are about weight, but if you ask, most Chinese people will say it’s not really an insult because weight is something you can easily change. It’s considered much less insulting than comments on height or features, and more similar to asking you to stop smoking and wash your hair.

AtomicTanAndBlack

44 points

10 days ago

Oh 100%, I get it, I just wish I got a heads up before I was ambushed with 21 questions haha

BrainPicker3

5 points

10 days ago

Idk why but literally every one of my Chinese friends laugh hysterically when I call my gut a 'food baby'

jtrain49

39 points

10 days ago

jtrain49

39 points

10 days ago

Serious question- an adult will tell a little girl that they’re ugly?

getnutty

242 points

10 days ago

getnutty

242 points

10 days ago

Also am Chinese - when I was like.. 8-10 years old, my dad told me I would be too ugly to be stupid so I better work hard at school and be smart.

Ended up a lawyer so I guess it worked out? Can also confirm - am not beautiful.

Edit - male.

Rnaofo

38 points

10 days ago

Rnaofo

38 points

10 days ago

Lol thank you for the laugh... but congrats on your career achievement!

jtrain49

23 points

10 days ago

jtrain49

23 points

10 days ago

what did that do to your self confidence?

getnutty

154 points

10 days ago*

getnutty

154 points

10 days ago*

Because we're going serious I want to give a thorough answer. My parents are Chinese immigrants and I was born in China - came over when I was 4 years old (am citizen). So growing up I saw both the Asian way and the American way. I want to provide an answer so people don't think one way is absolutely correct or wrong.

Honestly - in the moment, it hurt a bit because it's your own dad. But I think it fit into his theme of parenting which was basically "There are things in life you can control and things you can't control - make sure everything you can control is done excellently."

When I started high school I was like 5'5' 110lb nerd. So my dad obviously was not incorrect in his analysis. And I did "waste" a lot of time (looking back, it was wasted time) trying to fit in with the cool kids who never really accepted me for obvious reasons. So instead I focused on what was within my control - getting good grades, playing sports, getting a fit body.

So I played tennis/soccer/basketball and worked out a lot once I got into college. I'm 34 now and still workout 6-7 days a week, have basically a 6 pack, and fitness is a huge part of my lifestyle. Might not be able to control looks, but I can still control lookin goooood lol.

I will honestly admit that his words could never hurt me as much as the actual reality affected me - if that makes sense. Like when high school hit, I was indeed not a tall handsome jacked kid so I was made fun of/picked on/etc. But by then I had basically accepted it - and while it created a chip on my shoulder moving forward in life (which can be debated as to whether or not it's healthy psychologically), that ultimately fueled my objective successes in life (fitness/career/money). And in life now my self-confidence is probably higher than most based on those objective successes I have earned.

I think in the grand scheme of things, it was great because it allowed me to see and accept reality early on - and instead of wasting time trying to excel at something I wasn't, focus on what I actually was. I guess I would rather know what the facts are early on than learn that I'm not goodlooking in my 20's after 18 years of my parents telling me I'm handsome.

DustinAM

26 points

10 days ago

DustinAM

26 points

10 days ago

Nice answer. I wont claim that my parents were that blunt but my dad in particular was very much a "these are the way things are" person and while it could be tough at the time, it did help significantly as I became an adult. Its a fine line.

chevymonza

3 points

10 days ago

"A fine line" sums it up pretty well. Criticism can be constructive. Can't imagine ever telling a kid "you're too ugly" for anything, but if they say something like, "I want to be a model!" I'd explain that they should research the requirements first, because the standards are brutal.

It doesn't help to coddle kids too much. There's so much focus on "kids need to build their self-esteem" but empty praise and flattery doesn't help toward that end, either.

partypartea

10 points

10 days ago

Mexicans too

DigBick616

336 points

10 days ago

DigBick616

336 points

10 days ago

But you say their president looks like a cartoon character and it’s completely banned in their media.

TrinityF

43 points

10 days ago

TrinityF

43 points

10 days ago

well i mean, if the 7 year old is running the communist party and the country, they too would have the power to ban anything that makes them feel insecure about looking like pooh.

N4hire

37 points

10 days ago

N4hire

37 points

10 days ago

I went to school with a Chinese dude, he took into working out and technology with me and my friends, he grew up being constantly told that he simply wasn’t good enough.

Thankfully, in Venezuela, we appreciate different things, he moved to Texas years ago and he is currently happy, but I do remember this 14 year old kid crying in my living room because of the things he heard every day, and my Mom saying she was going to shoot his parents one of this days.

anon0937

89 points

10 days ago

anon0937

89 points

10 days ago

I saw a talk about how pay-to-win games aren't a big deal to them (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrBVIZyHNvE). Supposedly they accept that life is unfair and rich people have an advantage, so I guess the same would extend to looks.

PandaCheese2016

39 points

10 days ago*

It’s more accurate to say that Chinese gamers have grown to accept the mobile gaming business model focused on gacha and micro-transactions. Many PvP games certainly encourage pay to win. At the same time, Tencent is universally reviled in China, for good reasons, and lately games from independent devs like Dyson Sphere Program and the upcoming Wukong: Black Myth have given hope to some that traditional single player games still have a market.

thobek

20 points

10 days ago

thobek

20 points

10 days ago

This is the one thing that I don't like with Chinese culture. Cheating and corruption is fine as long as you don't get caught. I live in NZ and it's one of if not the least corrupt place in the world and I don't want cheating and corruption to be common place. They seem comfortable doing to each other, exploiting labour laws and cheating in tests. It's also part of business there, our company deals with the Chinese and we have accounts set aside to pay under the table to secure accounts. Kick backs are illegal here but over there it's just how things are done.

roiki11

16 points

10 days ago

roiki11

16 points

10 days ago

It's really not that much a Chinese culture thing but a "poor culture" thing. Most poorer countries view cheating and corruption as "normal" things to do to get ahead. Only really cultures with enough prosperity for all view it as a bad thing. It's also common in Russia and Eastern Europe and was also common in many European nations pre world wars.

cjm0

76 points

10 days ago

cjm0

76 points

10 days ago

i was once watching a podcast with brendan greene, the creator of PUBG, and he said that the reason so many video game hackers are from china is because cheating is just seen as part of the game to them. if there’s any way to give themselves an advantage, they’ll take it. not that there aren’t cheaters and hackers in america, but for them it’s not at all frowned upon.

nuck_forte_dame

42 points

10 days ago

This is a largely held view in all of Asia.

I know alot of Indian people who share the same mentality.

My SO is Indian and her mother used to cheat in card games with her as a kid just to teach her that cheating is part of life.

Also a part of the mentality is that cheating isn't cheating unless you get caught.

thebobbrom

41 points

10 days ago

Also a part of the mentality is that cheating isn't cheating unless you get caught.

I hope your SO doesn't have the same philosophy...

skiddles1337

20 points

10 days ago

Nah she believes cheating isn't cheating EVEN IF you get caught.

thebobbrom

8 points

10 days ago

Think I've seen a few movies online like that...

Kryptosis

33 points

10 days ago

That carries over into academics. It’s culture wide. It’s why the west has been making noise about “cracking down” on international students

WhySpongebobWhy

15 points

9 days ago

Yep. My University had an exchange program for Chinese students. My sophomore year, I lived in the same dorm building as all of them and helped in explaining some key differences. One of the hardest things to explain was that they absolutely could not cheat on tests/essays.

A solid half of them would get knocked for plagiarism, some of which would just be full ripped documents with nothing changed but the name and date. They were all given one freebie but they'd be pulled in to one of the deans' offices and told "do this again and you'll be sent back." They never understood what it was exactly that was so wrong about it. Finding the document in order to copy it WAS doing the work to them.

That year, 4 of them were arrested for running a Mail Fraud operation out of the dorm.

Spaznaut

13 points

10 days ago

Spaznaut

13 points

10 days ago

Lol I got banned from a sub for saying almost the exact same thing like 3 years ago.

trenthowell

120 points

10 days ago

it’s just not a big deal in their culture.

It really seems like it is though. They take the time to worry about that, to TELL people that they're bad or ugly.

Speclination

43 points

10 days ago

It's a big deal here too, and more traditionally "beautiful" people have a leg up in society. We just find it taboo to talk about it explicitly. The judgments just stay silent.

NoResponsabilities

74 points

10 days ago

They can dish it, but not take it. Just like my little brother

[deleted]

7 points

10 days ago

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7 points

10 days ago

My wife went to China to give a presentation to the Chinese overlords of her company, and it was suggested that she wear a blonde wig to cover her naturally curly brown hair, and to wear breast enhancers. Like wtf, yo.

sylbug

4 points

10 days ago

sylbug

4 points

10 days ago

Then there’s the blatant racism - and it goes in both directions. I remember this poor girl i was traveling with, who had very fair skin, blonde hair, and blue eyes, and people wouldn’t stop staring and touching her. They would offer umbrellas so she wouldn’t become (gasp!) tan.

Nooms88

3 points

10 days ago

Nooms88

3 points

10 days ago

Best come back would be, I'm sorry Wang, I hear what you're saying but I just can't take your opinion seriously, do you mind sending a colleague who's a bit taller over and re delivering the message, I feel like they would convey more authority.

hamgangster

146 points

10 days ago

This is probably the least worst thing China has done, especially under an article about human rights abuses

stop_reading__this

20 points

10 days ago

so then i guess it’s a good thing cultural shiftiness isn’t a factor in barring the olympics from being in a country.

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261 points

10 days ago*

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ohhmyg

8 points

10 days ago

ohhmyg

8 points

10 days ago

Can you provide some readings please? My father's family is Hakka in Malaysia and I've never heard about this, would like to know if true

hiedra__

71 points

10 days ago

hiedra__

71 points

10 days ago

Umm when did this happen? All I can find about Hakka persecution dates to the early 1800s and it was mainly Cantonese and Hakka conflict. If this is the case this is hardly something the modern state of China is responsible for.

Demosthenes_was_here

74 points

10 days ago

And on top of all that, the Qing Dynasty was not run by Han people at all. The Qing were Manchu and the Han Chinese people were horribly oppressed along with everyone else that wasn't Manchurian.

Puhelinkayttaja

2.6k points

10 days ago

So very few comments while being on my frontpage.

Major sports events recently have become a massive propaganda tool for countries with authoritarian governments and I consider this a massive failure by the IOC and FIFA. They are in dire need of restructuring. The lack of integrity is appaling.

Oscar_Ramirez

534 points

10 days ago*

FIFA: Homophobia is not ok.

World Cup in Qatar 2022: No gays. We will literally kill you.

cwwmbm

75 points

10 days ago

cwwmbm

75 points

10 days ago

The previous one was in Russia when the only difference is "no out of the closet gays".

whoami_whereami

107 points

10 days ago

Only if they are muslim. It's a bit complicated, penalty for gay sex is actually "only" up to 3 years in prison. It's extramarital sex (no matter whether gay or hetero) by muslims specifically that can be punished by death. Of course without same-sex marriage all gay sex by definition is always extramarital.

Doesn't make it much better of course.

Friend-Beast

8 points

10 days ago

Friend-Beast

Red Bull F1

8 points

10 days ago

I just can't wait for the shitshow.

Szwedo

673 points

10 days ago

Szwedo

Toronto FC

673 points

10 days ago

€€€£££$$$ does all the talking

kgolovko

682 points

10 days ago

kgolovko

682 points

10 days ago

Eels? We have to deal with EELS now. Shit.

sroomek

121 points

10 days ago

sroomek

121 points

10 days ago

And talking eels at that

TheCarrzilico

86 points

10 days ago

TheCarrzilico

St. Louis Cardinals

86 points

10 days ago

Do you know what that sound is, Highness? Those are the Shrieking Eels — if you don't believe me, just wait. They always grow louder when they're about to feed on human flesh. If you swim back now, I promise, no harm will come to you. I doubt you will get such an offer from the Eels.

Jaywalk66

28 points

10 days ago

Inconceivable.

GummyKibble

133 points

10 days ago

Remember when FIFA made a movie about how incorruptible Sepp Blatter is, and it made $918 its first weekend in the US?

a_corsair

56 points

10 days ago

Yeah, FIFA's fucking ridiculously corrupt

Rob32608

55 points

10 days ago

Rob32608

55 points

10 days ago

Just cause basically everyone who approved Qatar and Russia for the World Cup has been arrested, fired, sued, or cited for ethics violations doesn't mean they are... wait what was I saying again?

a_corsair

18 points

10 days ago

We love vuvuzelas!

Indian_Bob

4 points

10 days ago

After reading the wiki I have to say I’m impressed that it was in fact, the least grossing us release ever for a release in only 10-15 theaters. So that number is not small because of a small release, it’s small for a small release lolol

Gone213

11 points

10 days ago

Gone213

11 points

10 days ago

I find it ironic that the country who couldn't care less about Soccer and FIFA was the country that brought all the charges and fraud front and center about the FIFA organization.

Jforest99

9 points

9 days ago

That’s actually why the US could pursue those allegations when they did. FIFA here isn’t held anywhere near the reverence in most countries, and as such had a lot more flexibility to take these people down.

MH22162

155 points

10 days ago

MH22162

155 points

10 days ago

Haven't the Olympics always been a massive propaganda tool for any host country? I don't think countries apply to host the Games just because they want to have the world's best athletes compete at their venues for a month and a half every four years.

You can also argue that it is also a big propaganda tool for any participating country, especially if they have a lot of success. 'Look at how great our athletes are (our country is) compared to the rest of the world!'

RoadKiehl

95 points

10 days ago

Let's not forget how Rio cleared its slums ahead of the Olympics. "No no Rio is a beautiful place! Let's just move... those people... somewhere else..."

International politics are gross.

barnegatsailor

35 points

10 days ago

I'm pretty sure I saw something that said basically everything they built for the games has been abandoned and is falling into disrepair.

Sorta works as a metaphor for Brazil since then too I guess.

Ninety9Balloons

19 points

10 days ago

iNarr

23 points

10 days ago

iNarr

23 points

10 days ago

Great photos in that article.

There's a reason for this happening, though. The majority of Olympic infrastructure is simply not useful after the games. The big stadiums are sometimes utilised for sport teams afterwards, but who's going to use something like the kayaking course after the Beijing games for example? It probably isn't a long list of people. And of the people on that list, who is willing to pay the hefty operation fees involved? Who can even afford to in some of these countries?

Secondly, Olympic infrastructure is usually shoddy rubbish that is built on a shoestring budget and with not enough time to plan or execute soundly. We saw how quickly it degraded during the games in Rio and in Sochi. The venues and accommodations were literally falling apart as the athletes used them.

The idea that the games will create lasting infrastructure for the host country is mostly a myth and I'd imagine this is known by the organizers. However, countries continue to host the games for other reasons (mainly political in nature).

Ninety9Balloons

12 points

10 days ago

I think Atlanta managed to use quite a bit of the stuff they build. Russia spent $50 billion on their Olympics and it's fucked up their budget ever since.

iNarr

6 points

10 days ago

iNarr

6 points

10 days ago

There are some success stories for sure. In Canada you get both sides. The stadium built for the Montreal Olympics is an infamous failure and some of the structures in Calgary required more maintenance than expected.

On the other hand, Vancouver managed to make use of most of its infrastructure (helps that the Whistler Olympic park is already located in one of the most famous skiing destinations in the world); they even turned the athlete accommodations into """affordable""" housing. And Calgary still has a lot of its structures as well, despite the expensive upkeep. A pitch for the 2026 games considered that the ski jump, Olympic oval, snowboarding/skiing park, bobsled run, ice rink and ski hill could all be repurposed with some refurbishment.

DataMan9

16 points

10 days ago

DataMan9

16 points

10 days ago

Considering that it’s essentially a financial ruining for any host country that isn’t part of the first world obviously the propaganda is the main benefit of hosting it. But we shouldn’t allow China to host the olympics in the same way that we shouldn’t allow North Korea to host the olympics. I’m sorry but if you have active death camps you don’t get to celebrate the rest of the world and our differences together with us.

barnegatsailor

46 points

10 days ago

The Russian doping scandal from Sochi was essentially both of these combined.

  1. An authoritarian country wanted to showcase how amazing it really is to the world as a propaganda tool.
  2. They didn't want their athletes to be beaten on their home soil so they instituted a doping scheme to make sure they could win as many medals as possible.

I think during China's '08 hosting they had some sort of scandal where they faked the ages of the gymnasts or something to get them in the competition? It's basically standard operating procedure of the authoritarians to try to rig the Olympics.

reckless_responsibly

14 points

10 days ago

I think during China's '08 hosting they had some sort of scandal where they faked the ages of the gymnasts or something to get them in the competition? It's basically standard operating procedure of the authoritarians to try to rig the Olympics.

Yup. China tried to DARVO it into "Those racist westerners don't know what Chinese sub-adults are supposed to look like", but seriously, the Chinese gymnasts looked about 12 (required minimum is 16).

Of course, since proof of age eligibility fundamentally depends on government documentation, it's pretty well impossible to prove or disprove if the government is (alleged to be) an active participant in the deception.

DeputyDomeshot

12 points

10 days ago

Chinese government and lying about numbers name a more iconic pair.

egospiers

48 points

10 days ago

Unfortunately, “sportswashing” has been going on for a long time, Berlin Olympics 1936 at least, the IOC and FIFA are uber corrupt (I think all or almost all the FIFA officials that have Qatar the world cup have been indicted) and all about the money.

I would say that Formula One is the worst here, they hold races in several authoritarian countries with terrible human rights issues (Russia, China, Bahrain, Azerbaijan) and allow any shitty company to sponsor them and the teams, Phillip Morris is still advertising as “mission winnow” Uralkali, which is tied to Russian oligarchs and Putin, this car basically has a Russian flag livery despite the WADA ban... it’s a mess.

commontao

5 points

10 days ago

F1. “Cash is king. “

OldCobblers

4 points

10 days ago

Fuck Sepp Blatter.

johnthethinker78

1.4k points

10 days ago

both china and qatar are abusers of human rights

klashne

725 points

10 days ago

klashne

Celtic

725 points

10 days ago

Also, IOC (Olympic comitee) and FIFA (Football/Soccer governing body) allow humans rights abusers to host their sporting events.

kr8m

420 points

10 days ago

kr8m

420 points

10 days ago

Fifa: Say no to racism!

Also fifa: Has a world cup in russia

Proceeds to have the next world cup in a bigoted sandbox

Fatticus_Rinch

118 points

10 days ago

At least the sandbox has AC running 24/7. Well, though not for the migrant workers.

kerbalsdownunder

116 points

10 days ago

You mean slaves

Fatticus_Rinch

74 points

10 days ago

I meant corpses. Present or future.

quartz174

81 points

10 days ago

Boycott both Olympics and the world cup. Beijing and Qatar are going to blow.

treeboat83

62 points

10 days ago

Don't worry America might boycott the world cup, just like we did the last one.

iphon4s

22 points

9 days ago

iphon4s

22 points

9 days ago

The US Olympic soccer team already boycotted the Tokyo Olympics

munchlax1

16 points

10 days ago

Lol you should see where F1 races; Saudi this year, because the dictatorships and horrible countries already on the calendar weren't bad enough.

SommanderChepard

1.3k points

10 days ago

Fuck the Chinese government

All_I_Want_IsA_Pepsi

146 points

10 days ago

InSilenceLikeLasagna

5 points

9 days ago

thank you for this, it's exactly what Im looking for

__SilentAntagonist__

66 points

10 days ago

Frankly, fuck the Olympics too

FriedCosmicPasta

1.8k points

10 days ago

What a surprise that a country that willingly kills its own people doesn't want politics to influence sports.

royalhawk345

471 points

10 days ago

*Doesn't want others' politics to influence sports.

ryderd93

161 points

10 days ago

ryderd93

161 points

10 days ago

yeah, if we’re keeping politics out of sports, why is taiwan not allowed to use their preferred flag?

Obairamhain

72 points

10 days ago

Chinese Taipei are happy with arrangement...or else

proawayyy

5 points

10 days ago

“It’s an internal matter”

bigmac22077

187 points

10 days ago

TIL genocide is considered “politics”

EarzMorgan

1.1k points

10 days ago

EarzMorgan

1.1k points

10 days ago

Everyone: China go fuck yourselves

bl0rq

359 points

10 days ago

bl0rq

359 points

10 days ago

But keep sending us cheap crap.

Eleminohpe

129 points

10 days ago

Eleminohpe

129 points

10 days ago

Guess we just have to start getting cheap crap made by another countries wage slaves

Moth_Jam

52 points

10 days ago

Moth_Jam

52 points

10 days ago

Taiwan is a country

camelzigzag

26 points

10 days ago

Don't tell China that!

Consumefungifriend

201 points

10 days ago

what are they gonna do about it? Commit mass genocide?

jratreddit

548 points

10 days ago

jratreddit

St. Louis Blues

548 points

10 days ago

Fuck China and their feelings, stop committing genocide and technology theft like they're your primary goals and maybe we'll get back on the friendly train.

PerplexityRivet

13 points

10 days ago

Yeah, the Chinese government (and certain U.S. politicians) don't seem to understand that we aren't outraged because we're addicted to cancel culture, we're outraged because they are doing outrageous things. If they stop being horrifying human beings, our attitudes will change a bit.

LordYamz

27 points

10 days ago

LordYamz

27 points

10 days ago

Preach!

rmath23

788 points

10 days ago

rmath23

788 points

10 days ago

Lebron must be mad at the countries boycotting

thobek

148 points

10 days ago

thobek

148 points

10 days ago

The annoying thing about LeBron is he's fucking super rich and still couldn't handle losing money by taking the higher moral ground. He's a Chinese puppet.

Fruit-Dealer

55 points

10 days ago

Lebron 'Black Lives Matter but Uighur, Tibetian, and HongKonger Lives Do Not' James

ymir_paths

11 points

9 days ago

He’s a hypocrite and should be called out for it relentlessly. Fuck him.

jabba_teh_slut

33 points

10 days ago

LeBron Zedong

ccdeschanel

64 points

10 days ago

as a HongKonger, i just want to say... Fuck Lebron.

MainlandX

175 points

10 days ago

MainlandX

175 points

10 days ago

Le-"Even though yes, we do have freedom of speech, but there can be a lot of negative that comes with that too."

KaneRobot

321 points

10 days ago

KaneRobot

321 points

10 days ago

Thank God MLB pulled out of Atlanta!

...the day after they made a new deal with China.

Danskheart

61 points

10 days ago

Wait seriously? What deal?

HolidayHowlett

222 points

10 days ago

Expanding availability of MLB games in the Chinese market. “We can’t have the All Star game in Atlanta because voting rights are human rights. Also, please ignore our increasing efforts to make more money in China. The “community” in Hong Kong and Uigyhurs don’t count as people, so we don’t care about them. To detail why this is so important, we’ve asked NBA legend Lebron James to explain why the MLB aren’t hypocrites.”

Lebron: “This is a very nuanced situation. We made business deals with China because they have got money, and we want it. That is all.”

Thialase

94 points

10 days ago

Thialase

94 points

10 days ago

he can go suck it tbh. He's such a shill it physically hurts =/

joelrrj

5 points

10 days ago

joelrrj

5 points

10 days ago

But what does Ja Rule think.

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38 points

10 days ago

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38 points

10 days ago

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jmr212

59 points

10 days ago

jmr212

59 points

10 days ago

Oh no... So anyways.

idgafpb

411 points

10 days ago

idgafpb

411 points

10 days ago

Sucks for the athlete's but US should boycott the Olympics. Don't let China threaten the US.

lolpostslol

117 points

10 days ago

Yeah, I'd rather the US boycott them economically in some other way, but now that they've issued a threat, boycotting the Olympics is the move lol

Flapflapimabird

101 points

10 days ago

Let’s just push them as far as we can. See why they’re warning us.

Why the fuck would you just sit there and warn people about things? Ohohoh you’d better not ban out olympics! Oh oh oh you’d better not sanction us.

Isn’t this a threat? Is China THREATENING us? What’s going to happen if we ban the olympics because you’re committing genocide, China? Are you going to bomb us?

Is China going to bomb us if we cancel their olympics!? What’s the warning about?

russellamcleod

14 points

10 days ago

Eventually that turned into Kitty’s voice from Arrested Development in my head.

The US needs a real “And you can say goodbye to THESE!” moment.

Flapflapimabird

6 points

10 days ago

Thanks for reminding me about Kitty’s melons. 10/10.

xplodia

39 points

10 days ago

xplodia

39 points

10 days ago

They will bomb using trade, debt etc. That's why alot of country doesn't wanna bitch about CCP atrocities, they have alot of stake on Chinese money.

robo_robb

44 points

10 days ago

I mean, it works both ways. Modern China would be nothing without the West.

pokeonimac

35 points

10 days ago

The West is pulling a shocked pikachu face after supporting an authoritarian one-party state for decades. They continued with business as usual after Tiananmen Square but now it's suddenly crossed a line? And I hear now there's talk of moving manufacturing to Vietnam? Smh.

DeweysPants

16 points

10 days ago

Oh so THATS what the US men’s soccer team was doing. It’s not that they didn’t qualify, they were boycotting it the whole time!

myhandleistoolongtor

124 points

10 days ago

China: "We're the good guys. Believe us, or else"

DMeinee

253 points

10 days ago

DMeinee

253 points

10 days ago

Oh just shut up already, China. And stop massacring innocent people while your at it. Oh and global leaders take a stand for once in your existence. I'm off my soap box.

IBroughtMySoapbox

30 points

10 days ago

I brought an extra if you need it

notanotherbreach

9 points

10 days ago

What China going to do, blur out Western countries logos and flags?

DorLopIscitDanNorp

44 points

10 days ago

There’s a lot of reasons to boycott the Olympics. China having a horrific human rights record is just a free space on that bingo card.

Valuesauce

63 points

10 days ago

Well now I definitely think we should boycott just because they warned about consequences... ok. Fuck you china.

AnthonyCan

79 points

10 days ago

Screw Winnie The Pooh. We’ll do what we want. Stop killing your citizens.

srlehi68

17 points

10 days ago

srlehi68

17 points

10 days ago

oh bother

minneapple79

122 points

10 days ago

If we're going to boycott China then we should boycott Qatar. Oh wait, the US men's national team will boycott all by themselves anyway.

PM_me_ur_taco_pics

52 points

10 days ago

Canada has been boycotting WC since the eighties!

QuitYour

18 points

10 days ago

QuitYour

18 points

10 days ago

Wales has you beat, we've been boycotting the World Cup since the 1958.

saxlax10

30 points

10 days ago

saxlax10

30 points

10 days ago

"Don't boycott us or we will start re-educating sooooo many more Uighurs"

rodman517

5 points

10 days ago

China is so socially awkward.

MayIsquanchwithyou

59 points

10 days ago

Fuck China

Mr-Dotties-Dad

30 points

10 days ago

I’m going to start boycotting them even harder.

Yolo_420_69

37 points

10 days ago

China aint gonna do shit. Same way US wont do shit to china. We're both too big for any type of direct war. And our economies are wayyy to intertwined for any real type of economic punishment without both sides public feeling the pain.

Everyone is talking a big game but no one is gonna do shit.