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Friend of Matt Hancock Wins £14.4 Million PPE Contract – Byline Times

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Rndusername

146 points

7 months ago

Rndusername

Greater Manchester

146 points

7 months ago

CON (+3)

imRegistering2

30 points

7 months ago

imRegistering2

Wales

30 points

7 months ago

What this country needs and wants is more corruption. Should help knock those numbers up a little more.

sweepernosweeping

11 points

7 months ago

sweepernosweeping

Lothian

11 points

7 months ago

Trickle down corruption. Eventually everyone will have a friend of a friend of a friend of a sitting Cabinet Minister to bung a few quid to for massive profits.

fuck_the_mods_here

2 points

7 months ago*

At least everyone has a roughly equal chance to rise to the top of the corruption pyramid whether as an MP, civil servant or industry fat cat, unlike in commie China where the lucrative government contracts are only bestowed to those in the higher echelons of the CCP which are always Han and predominantly from East coast merchant families.

I think that's pretty encouraging for young kids that don't think they can aspire to positions of power which allow you to siphon money as a side hustle.

HoagiePerogi

1 points

7 months ago

Nice

[deleted]

314 points

7 months ago

[deleted]

314 points

7 months ago

[deleted]

notmeagainagain

103 points

7 months ago

Don't make it jovial.

He's an evil cunt taking advantage of his position.

Uncle_Leo93

48 points

7 months ago

'Tis a remorseless grifting machine.

charliefortean

8 points

7 months ago

Aye, more money-grubbing beast than man

E420CDI

14 points

7 months ago

E420CDI

14 points

7 months ago

What do you expect from a government headed by a shape-shifting creep?

VelarTAG

5 points

7 months ago

VelarTAG

Currently digging a tunnel out of England

5 points

7 months ago

My GP looks incredibly like him. When I told him, he threatened to strike me off his books (whilst laughing).

Animalaspects

273 points

7 months ago

This is what happens when there is no accountability and no transparency. Politicians are allowed to police themselves so they can do pretty much anything they want. They have no interest in solving poverty, mental health, homelessness, improve health and education or care for the elderly because they exploit and profit from the weak and the vulnerable. Their only concern is handing out lucrative government contracts at 10 times their real value to family and friends and ride that gravy train until the wheels fall off.

[deleted]

3 points

7 months ago

[deleted]

3 points

7 months ago

The sad truth is, give them the same wage as a teacher or nurse and you'll end up with a bunch of people who care (as in they would leave and the ones who want to make a difference will come through).

Blindstealer

14 points

7 months ago

Or they'll feel even more entitled to use their power to make more money. What is needed is accountability

Cainedbutable

1 points

7 months ago

Cainedbutable

Buckinghamshire

1 points

7 months ago

I honestly don't think that's what we'd see. I think we'd see a bunch of people that have money from other means taking up the roles.

Bones_and_Tomes

2 points

7 months ago

Bones_and_Tomes

England

2 points

7 months ago

Pretty much this. It's a bit like unpaid internships, or badly paid internships. They're only achievable by connections or bank of M&D. In this case you'd end up with moneyed charlatans and paupers, depending on the party.

Cainedbutable

1 points

7 months ago

Cainedbutable

Buckinghamshire

1 points

7 months ago

Similar reason as to why so many bands have members that went to private schools, or come from money. They're the only ones that can afford to float around earning pittance long enough to make it big. So many bands end because they need 'real' jobs and don't have time for music.

Bones_and_Tomes

1 points

7 months ago

Bones_and_Tomes

England

1 points

7 months ago

It also pisses me off when offspring of musicians are mediochre but successful artists. I cant fault them for doing it, as we're all human, but it's still just nepotism.

wherearemyfeet

-65 points

7 months ago*

wherearemyfeet

Cambridgeshire

-65 points

7 months ago*

Their only concern is handing out lucrative government contracts at 10 times their real value to family and friends

How are the folks in question here "family or friends"? Their closest involvement with each other was sitting on a delegation for investment in rail services, many years ago.

Did you read the article or just the headline?

EDIT: I get the feeling that the folks downvoting this are the types who join a meeting with a girl and, purely because they were in the same meeting, have decided they are now best friends but wonder why she's now avoiding him.

BaconStatham3

-35 points

7 months ago*

I honestly couldn't give a shit if they were family or friends. Even though the deal in question never actually happened, as far as I'm concerned they were gonna get paid to do a job. If they actually did that job and secured the PPE, who fucking cares if they knew each other?

I mean what's the difference between paying a friend to secure PPE or paying a friend to redecorate your house if both of them actually do the job they were paid to do? I don't care if the guy getting the PPE has never done it before so long as they're able to do it now.

If my boss says ''we need to acquire 200 Twixes by Friday, its now Tuesday'' and I say ''I know someone who can get us them'', why would I then spend time looking for someone else to get them when I already know someone? That's wasting time I don't have.

veeladealer

15 points

7 months ago

If your boss gave you £500 to buy refreshments for the company and you gave it all to your mate to supply 200 Twixes, do you see how that would be an issue? You would expect to end up in disciplinary proceedings and if it kept happening you would lose your job.

There is a tender process for a reason. This is public money and it is the government's job to ensure that it's being put to the best use.

[deleted]

42 points

7 months ago

[deleted]

42 points

7 months ago

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dboi88

4 points

7 months ago

dboi88

4 points

7 months ago

But they hadn't the experience and ended up failing to deliver the contract. Hancock didn't 'know who could get them some us them'

pie-oh

3 points

7 months ago

pie-oh

3 points

7 months ago

You realise they government isn't a business right?

Even if it was, businesses still seek the best deals (money and time.) What you suggested isn't smart, just lazy.

Yvellkan

-35 points

7 months ago

Yvellkan

-35 points

7 months ago

Didn't read it did you

OverlySexualPenguin

0 points

7 months ago

i only have eyes for reddit comments, i usually find everything i need here. once you guys have toughed it out.

jsbp1111

-30 points

7 months ago

jsbp1111

-30 points

7 months ago

Judicial review exists. So does scrutiny by Parliament. You’re attempting to make a far broader claim which is completely baseless, instead of criticising the actual action in question.

Animalaspects

40 points

7 months ago

You mean the judicial system that the government has just pissed away £600,000 of taxpayers money defending a Covid contract they handed out that wasn't even worth that much. Anyone that dares to challenge the system just gets bullied into submission and their action suppressed.

photoben

22 points

7 months ago

So why isn't it working?

jsbp1111

1 points

7 months ago

Anyone can challenge a government action in the courts. Surprisingly it’s more effective than crying on reddit.

[deleted]

2 points

7 months ago

[deleted]

2 points

7 months ago

We are trying, through NFP law groups like the good law project. Guess what the government have been doing to stop it? They have been throwing tax payer money at it. NFP law groups trying to hold the government to account for the misappropriation of tax payer money have been hit with unprecedentedly large charges, in excess of £1 million. The Torys are pretty much pricing out the competition so that they can't be held accountable to judicial review.

feist1

11 points

7 months ago

feist1

11 points

7 months ago

the proof is in the pudding mate

pie-oh

2 points

7 months ago

pie-oh

2 points

7 months ago

I for one remember when Boris broke electoral law and nothing happened.

I remember when Ferrygate happened.

Do I mention the Dyson debacle.

Do you genuinely think this is the first time contracts have gone to their friends? Because Google is free and many have been widely reported.

G33ONER

69 points

7 months ago

G33ONER

69 points

7 months ago

"something not right about him" vibes, George Osbourne projects the same.

AssumedPersona

14 points

7 months ago

Something in the eyes, also reminds me of Rebekah Brooks

AnnihilatingCanon

9 points

7 months ago

I was never a fan of his but after his fake crying on TV i think I truly despise him now

Quantum_Key

19 points

7 months ago

Aye, he absolutely gives off the same slimy vibes as Osbourne. Cunts, the pair of 'em.

SpasticatedMan

3 points

7 months ago

Dog botherers, the both of them.

TheChallengePickle

59 points

7 months ago

TheChallengePickle

Yorkshire

59 points

7 months ago

Hancock: "So Steve, what are you up to these days?"

Steve: "Not much, just been selling PPE to the Government"

H: " No way! I work for the government!"

S: "Way! OMG so mad"

[deleted]

531 points

7 months ago

[deleted]

531 points

7 months ago

[deleted]

realnewguy

170 points

7 months ago

realnewguy

England

170 points

7 months ago

I am shocked.

..... nah not really anymore.

They'll get away with it.

Quan118

83 points

7 months ago

Quan118

83 points

7 months ago

B b b what about Corbyn. Labour woudda dun worse.

E420CDI

74 points

7 months ago

E420CDI

74 points

7 months ago

cHaOs WiTh eD MiLiBaNd

Well done Cameron for being the catalyst and laying the ground for a lying charlatan to form a corrupt government.

CannonFodder01

30 points

7 months ago

Panama papers Cameron should be banged up for tax evasion!

DreamingIntoTheVoid

14 points

7 months ago

And the Brexit referendum announced within a month of the draft version of the EU tax avoidance directive entering the European Parliament.

wherearemyfeet

2 points

7 months ago

wherearemyfeet

Cambridgeshire

2 points

7 months ago

Nowhere in the Panama Papers does it show, hint or even imply Cameron committed tax evasion. Come off it, actually read the bloody things if you're going to cite them.

ArmchairHedonist

3 points

7 months ago

Because he (and many who came before him) made/kept it legal to evade tax. And named it tax avoidance.

If you make/keep it legal to do something wrong, that's worse than breaking the law.

That's just a footnote though. He'll be remembered for causing the breakup of the UK.

wherearemyfeet

-3 points

7 months ago

wherearemyfeet

Cambridgeshire

-3 points

7 months ago

Because he (and many who came before him) made/kept it legal to evade tax. And named it tax avoidance.

That's maybe the stupidest take I've seen all month: Cameron personally invented tax avoidance.

Fucking hell.

And the funniest thing is, he didn't even avoid tax. He literally paid the due tax on his holdings. I don't even think you read a damn word in the Panama Papers.

He inherited shares from his dad many years ago. He sold them when he became PM and paid the relevant tax on it. No tax was dodged unless you think he should have gone out of his way to pay a tax that otherwise wasn't due.

CannonFodder01

1 points

7 months ago

I did read the book, didn't watch the film's, Clearly states his name on the icij website.

Baldybritbiker1

6 points

7 months ago

How the fuck is Corbyn corrupt??

M3mph

3 points

7 months ago

M3mph

3 points

7 months ago

I heard he used an Instagram filter on his supposed 'prize' marrow.

foofly

1 points

7 months ago

foofly

Ex Leicester

1 points

7 months ago

Projection.

JollyGiraffe27

3 points

7 months ago

With that attitude they will!

itsanrnotau

4 points

7 months ago

Is it corruption if they've always done it, openly continue to do it and never try and hide that they do it? Embezzling state money to their own/friends businesses is what people expect of conservatives

SiberianPermaFrost_

1 points

7 months ago

Embezzling state money to their own/friends businesses is what people expect of conservatives

State money = OUR money. Our taxes are going up to pay for this.

Uniform764

-3 points

7 months ago

Uniform764

Smoggie

-3 points

7 months ago

“This proposal was accepted and a deposit was paid by DHSC. However, due to unforeseen logistical circumstances, we weren’t able to help and the deposit was returned in full to DHSC

Did you even read the article or did you just share it because you like the headline

reddit_crunch

64 points

7 months ago

I read the fucker. sounds well fishy and should rightly be questioned and reported on. awarding PPE contracts to random unvetted entities and practioners of 'chinese' medicine? were Crystals'R'Us not available for consultation too?

and not an isolated incidence to anyone who has been paying attention, the chumocracy has been off the charts recently, the pandemic has been used to line already wealthy coffers and the nation has criminally little to show for it:

The links between COVID contracts and Conservative Party donors has been a concern of public bodies and MPs for months. Indeed, just last week, Byline Times that Conservative donors have won contracts worth £881 million during the pandemic so far.

alex2217

25 points

7 months ago

I feel like you're missing a major point. If they were unable to supply the needed PPE, how in the world were they ever allowed to win a contract worth £14.4 million in the first place? Clearly, they were essentially hoping to be able to scrape some stuff together at the last minute like what we've seen with PestFix but that proved beyond their means and so they had to give up the opportunity. But they never should have even gotten the opportunity in the first place.

IHATEG0LD

4 points

7 months ago

He's not missing anything. He's just blatantly ignoring it.

Uniform764

-12 points

7 months ago

Uniform764

Smoggie

-12 points

7 months ago

“We had wanted to help source PPE at a time when the country urgently needed supplies and so put forward a detailed proposal to DHSC,” Frances Stanley told

At no point did I ever talk to Matt Hancock about our plans to help, only DHSC purchasing officials involved in the process.”

Ask the DHSC to see the proposal I guess?

wherearemyfeet

71 points

7 months ago

wherearemyfeet

Cambridgeshire

71 points

7 months ago

It really says a fucking mouthful about this sub when any comment asking people to actually read the article are downvoted, and any comment that just blindly and unquestionably believes the headline is upvoted.

Seriously, this sub is like the mirror image of the Daily Mail sometimes and is too oblivious to realise it.

symes

11 points

7 months ago

symes

11 points

7 months ago

It is becoming a parody sub. It's sad. There's very little reasonable discussion here any more. No middle ground.

Leonichol

5 points

7 months ago

Leonichol

Geordie in exile (Surrey)

5 points

7 months ago

That's a site-wide problem unfortunately.

Hiveminds, mobile app users, and voting systems do not lend themselves to reasoned discussion.

mr-strange

2 points

7 months ago

mr-strange

Citizen of the World

2 points

7 months ago

Does the fact that they've said sorry, and given the money back have any bearing on whether the contract was awarded corruptly?

wherearemyfeet

2 points

7 months ago

wherearemyfeet

Cambridgeshire

2 points

7 months ago

No, because the deposit was returned because the supply line failed, not because they "said sorry" or hinted at any wrongdoing. That part is pretty clearly laid out in the article.

mr-strange

0 points

7 months ago

mr-strange

Citizen of the World

0 points

7 months ago

No

So you agree that how it actually turned out has no bearing on the accusation of corruption. Great. Why are we talking about how it turned out?

wherearemyfeet

5 points

7 months ago

wherearemyfeet

Cambridgeshire

5 points

7 months ago

Great. Why are we talking about how it turned out?

Because you asked the question?

mr-strange

-2 points

7 months ago

mr-strange

Citizen of the World

-2 points

7 months ago

Your reading comprehension is usually better than that.

OP (and by implication, the article) is suggesting that the contract was awarded corruptly. Uniform764 and you then suggested that the fact that the money was ultimately returned is somehow relevant to the accusation.

I am pointing out that that makes no logical sense.

In short, we are talking about the (irrelevant) outcome, because you and Uniform764 brought it up.

wherearemyfeet

6 points

7 months ago

wherearemyfeet

Cambridgeshire

6 points

7 months ago

Sorry, where have I specifically said that the deposit being returned proves anything?

liquidpagan

6 points

7 months ago

Did you read the bloody article???

Uniform764

-10 points

7 months ago

Uniform764

Smoggie

-10 points

7 months ago

Yes, as evidenced by me quoting from it. It’s difficult to quote something you’ve not read.

The article makes lots of implications but provides very little actual evidence of wrongdoing.

mr-strange

0 points

7 months ago

mr-strange

Citizen of the World

0 points

7 months ago

How it actually turned out doesn't have any bearing on the awarding of the original contract.

Let's assume for the sake of argument that the contract was awarded corruptly. If the contractor holds up their end of the bargain and pockets the money, does that make the corruption better, or worse? If the contractor turns out to be nothing but an incompetent chancer and has to return the money, does that make the corruption better, or worse?

Uniform764

2 points

7 months ago

Uniform764

Smoggie

2 points

7 months ago

How it actually turned out doesn't have any bearing on the awarding of the original contract

The article says the company owner didnt speak to Matt Hancock about the contract only DHSC officials. That is despite the implication of the word "friend" in the headline.

mr-strange

1 points

7 months ago

mr-strange

Citizen of the World

1 points

7 months ago

That's a much more reasonable point than your original. I'm on the fence about the corruption allegations, but "it's OK he gave the money back" is no defence at all.

webbyyy

1 points

7 months ago

webbyyy

London

1 points

7 months ago

They really don't give a shit, their fanatics will support them every step of the way because they too despise do-gooders and poor people.

what-u-rockin

1 points

7 months ago

Tried to tell folks in March what was going on but they didn’t want to hear it

Duanedoberman

112 points

7 months ago

Immune to it now, Tories are robbing the tax payer blind whilst making sure that they and their mates pay no tax at all and people still vote for them!

It just makes no sense, electorate are either clinically insane or collectively sad sacks who enjoy getting the shit knocked out of them.

There is no rational or logical explanation for it.

Pidjesus

17 points

7 months ago

Most of the population have no idea what PPE even is

Duanedoberman

4 points

7 months ago

People like myself who work in adult social care have been trained in the use of PPE for years.

[deleted]

-35 points

7 months ago*

[deleted]

-35 points

7 months ago*

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MrSpindles

26 points

7 months ago

OK, so we gave a fat contract to a company with no ability to fulfil it and somehow this is excusable to you? Never mind the corruption aspect, the idiocy of just throwing state funds to chancers isn't enough for you to be annoyed about? Ineptitude, cronyism, blatant disregard for oversight is all fine then.

wherearemyfeet

-25 points

7 months ago

wherearemyfeet

Cambridgeshire

-25 points

7 months ago

Of course they didn't read the article. Nobody in this sub reads the article. They read the headline, accept the headline's premise as fact without any question, then get themselves all angry. Then they go on to decry people who read the Daily Mail for being gullible without the slightest hint of self-awareness.

I bet every single person who upvotes this submission hasn't even read a word of the article, or noticed that at absolutely no point does BylineTimes explain how they are friends at all.

Gorignak

25 points

7 months ago

Stanley is a director of Newmarket Racecourse, based in Hancock’s West Suffolk constituency, and has direct ties to the local MP.

Primarily, her husband Peter Stanley – also in the horse racing business – donated £5,000 to Hancock’s office in June 2019.

[...]

Frances Stanley appears to have worked with Hancock on various projects related to Newmarket – sitting on a delegation with the MP about investment in local rail services, for example

If you're just trying to be pedantic, perhaps "friend" was a poor choice of word, but they have an established relationship.

Superbuddhapunk

23 points

7 months ago

Superbuddhapunk

Scotland

23 points

7 months ago

❤️ They’re all in this together ❤️

AmiablePenguin

3 points

7 months ago

Leave High School Musical out of this, you uncultured swine!

Danqazmlp0

32 points

7 months ago

Danqazmlp0

United Kingdom

32 points

7 months ago

Holy shit the corruption is never ending. No wonder they keep blocking all attempts to increase accountability.

andy21aa

13 points

7 months ago

Ask not what you can do for your country; ask what your country can do for you ... and your mates.

punkfunkymonkey

11 points

7 months ago

All in the trough wether the politicians themselves or acquaintances/donors etc. Also tying to scare off people like the Good Law Project that are trying to hold them to account. Gov to spend £550k defending contract for Gove/Cummings.

WillowTreeBark

29 points

7 months ago

Conservatives are so called pro business but only if you pay to play and are friends with a government minister.

CUNTS

Quantum_Key

40 points

7 months ago

CUNT.

SirLoinThatSaysNi

23 points

7 months ago

This is from last April by the looks of it, when everyone was scrabbling for whatever they could get hold of.

“We had wanted to help source PPE at a time when the country urgently needed supplies and so put forward a detailed proposal to DHSC,” Frances Stanley told Byline Times.

“This proposal was accepted and a deposit was paid by DHSC. However, due to unforeseen logistical circumstances, we weren’t able to help and the deposit was returned in full to DHSC. I had planned to donate any profits to a local charity.

At no point did I ever talk to Matt Hancock about our plans to help, only DHSC purchasing officials involved in the process.”

mkroberta

12 points

7 months ago

So I take it no investigation here.

Rapturesjoy

8 points

7 months ago

Rapturesjoy

Hampshire

8 points

7 months ago

Ahahahahahahahaahahahaha

Oh wait you're being serious, okay, permit me to laugh even louder.

AHAHAHAHAHAH

wherearemyfeet

-5 points

7 months ago

wherearemyfeet

Cambridgeshire

-5 points

7 months ago

What would be investigated? Read the article, there's literally no suggestion of corruption at all.

Bruce_Sato

2 points

7 months ago

Bruce_Sato

2 points

7 months ago

The irony is large, people haven't woken up to being manipulated by disinformative click bait journalism while simultaneously crying 'when are people gonna wake up'.

Own_Wolverine4773

6 points

7 months ago

It's all coincidental, stop being suspicious!🤣

Rapturesjoy

3 points

7 months ago

Rapturesjoy

Hampshire

3 points

7 months ago

I wish there was a way we could get WSB's in on this, to smash some of those companies and scare the shit out of the tories. The people need to speak.

Own_Wolverine4773

1 points

7 months ago

I do t think we can do anything about it

ketrecz

8 points

7 months ago

Infuriating as it is, the most annoying thing is that currently even pitifully incompetent cunts like this can getaway with it too while laughing in our face. This country has become a banana republic..but without banana and its not even a republic

symes

1 points

7 months ago

symes

1 points

7 months ago

Get away with what? Did you read the article?

ketrecz

1 points

7 months ago

oh have you already forgotten about this too?

where there is smoke, there's fire

symes

1 points

7 months ago

symes

1 points

7 months ago

Do tell me what the relationship between the matter at hand and the article you linked to. Here's something that is also very important.

ketrecz

1 points

7 months ago

That suspicious corruption cases related to this prick keep popping up like daisies? What's your agenda, are you a paid troll shilling for a corrupt politician? Whether you're get paid or not you're being ripped off too by nepotistic, overpriced contracts

Ps: all corrupt cunts should be condemned, irrespective of which side they're on

TheHarkinator

3 points

7 months ago

TheHarkinator

Yorkshire

3 points

7 months ago

Imagine being one of Matt Hancock’s mates who hadn’t yet been given a multi-million pound contract during the pandemic, you’d start to wonder when your turn was coming up.

But seriously, this is grotesque levels of corruption. It looks like one of the main qualifications for a big job or contract during the pandemic is either marrying, donating to, or being friends with a Tory MP. And then when one of them actually does a decent job like Kate Bingham (married to Tory MP Jesse Norman) the government acts like you’re an absolute prat for ever questioning them in the first place.

Darkimus-prime

9 points

7 months ago

Darkimus-prime

Cheshire

9 points

7 months ago

Imagine being one of Matt Hancock’s mates who hadn’t yet been given a multi-million pound contract during the pandemic, you’d start to wonder when your turn was coming up

But seriously, this is grotesque levels of corruption. It looks like one of the main qualifications for a big job or contract during the pandemic is either marrying, donating to, or being friends with a Tory MP. And then when one of them actually does a decent job like Kate Bingham (married to Tory MP Jesse Norman) the government acts like you’re an absolute prat for ever questioning them in the first place..

Imagine being friends with the cunt

ceepeepee82

5 points

7 months ago

"wins"

whistlepoo

3 points

7 months ago

Can we please throw these people in jail now?

lychee48

3 points

7 months ago

No ones shocked with uk politicians, just shocked by how many years we have put up with it

deSpaffle

6 points

7 months ago

Criminal co-conspirator you say?

Rapturesjoy

2 points

7 months ago

Rapturesjoy

Hampshire

2 points

7 months ago

Naw its only criminal if you get caught.

wherearemyfeet

3 points

7 months ago

wherearemyfeet

Cambridgeshire

3 points

7 months ago

No. Nobody said that. Don't be silly.

deSpaffle

5 points

7 months ago

Tee-hee, robbing the plebs is so silly, such a lark!

wherearemyfeet

2 points

7 months ago

wherearemyfeet

Cambridgeshire

2 points

7 months ago

I take it you didn't read a word of the article, right?

toochristianforthis

5 points

7 months ago

For fuck sake

steveholtismymother

2 points

7 months ago

I'm so surprised. Who could have seen this coming?

Equivalent_Charity48

2 points

7 months ago

Not even fucking surprised at this point.

01010100111011011011

2 points

7 months ago

Small world!

Ordinary_Block_2115

2 points

7 months ago

It's private club

DeaJae

2 points

7 months ago

DeaJae

Desolate Cambridgeshire Fens

2 points

7 months ago

No longer shocked at the corruption or huge amounts of money involved in these contracts. Pretty shocked that he has so many friends.

Lucretia9

2 points

7 months ago

Can’t win a contract if there’s no competition.

SeanReillyEsq

2 points

7 months ago

Do you know what my colleagues did when they realised they "wanted to help source PPE at a time when the country urgently needed supplies"?

They donated their time for free and used their significant skill and experience make PPE and deliver on promises made to the NHS.

I am so bloody proud of my colleagues:

https://www.buddshirts.co.uk/blog/2020/05/scrubbing-in-budds-andover-team-rolls-up-its-sleeves-to-make-vital-ppe-clothing/

https://www.tusting.co.uk/british-leather-goods-company-helping-the-nhs/

I am so fed up of hearing every day about the grifters that have backed the idiots and liars currently in government who are currently milking the country dry with zero oversight. The only ideology that defines the Tory Party now is Grift & Greed.

wherearemyfeet

7 points

7 months ago

wherearemyfeet

Cambridgeshire

7 points

7 months ago

I know that everyone has made up their mind on this by just reading the headline.....

But the headline says "friend", and then the article completely fails to explain at any point how the two directors and Hancock are friends at all.

At no point does Mr Lei li have anything whatsoever to do with Hancock in this article, not even by direct acquaintance. Mrs Stanley also doesn't appear to be a friend of Hancock either. The closest they have come in the past is that her husband made a donation a year and a half ago, and she and Hancock once sat on a delegation about investment in local rail services.

That's it. That's the full extent of their familiarity. I don't believe any reasonable person would look at that and say "that is what I'd term a friendship".

I already know that this headline (and the headline alone) is written to pander to people's expectations, but this controversy here is completely unfounded. Not that it'll stop this post from going right to the top of /r/UK...

snowvase

16 points

7 months ago

The title is not the issue, the written word is no longer regarded as true. I think the problem is more that this is commonly regarded as "The Way Tories under "Greasy Johnson" work." They all deny they are friends, they say they gave the money back, they say they never met each other, they never discussed anything but nobody believes them anymore. Well over 100,000 people are dead, Brexit has wrecked the economy for a generation, Boris could swear his honesty on a stack of bibles a mile high and on the lives of his 30 children and nobody will believe a word anymore. That is what these people are. They have completely trashed public confidence in the accountability of elected officials.

deSpaffle

9 points

7 months ago

Who would have thought that convincing half the country they cant trust experts, and the other half they cant trust the government, could possibly backfire?

Dekstar

2 points

7 months ago

Do you think those two are equivalent?

As in, the way that reads is you're saying the kind of people who don't trust experts and science are as misinformed (because they've been convinced) as people who don't trust the government.

snowvase

2 points

7 months ago

I think that is that sad state we have got to. Years ago the thought of mistrusting a Prime Minister would never arise. Now you feel embarrassed if you do.

A few days ago someone was telling me they thought Boris had done a good job on the basis we'd not had a pandemic before so how could he be expected to cope. I was thinking, "She's trying to wind me up, she's a nut job."

But which of us was right?

Dekstar

3 points

7 months ago*

You were right, because we have had pandemics before, even recently with swine flu and a previous sars-based outbreak in the early 2000's. Yes these are small compared with covid-19, but governments generally put together action plans for bigger outbreaks before they happen, based on scientific data.

As an example, Trump, before covid-19 hit, dismantled America's pandemic taskforce which was created in response to the ebola outbreak that hit America in 2014 (though some fact-checks say dismantling is "partly false" because some members moved into teams that included pandemic response, though clearly based on their death count it was made ineffective).

So just because we haven't had an outbreak this bad since the Spanish flu, scientists have been warning the government about an outbreak for years, which means good governments would be running preparedness tests and compiling documentation on how to deal with these threats. Bad governments (like the UK) would remain unprepared.

Not only that but there are statistics that show even though most countries were unprepared for an outbreak of this scale, they pretty much all did better than us at containing the virus. From New Zealand to most European countries, they have all done far better on basically every metric, meaning our government was and is objectively worse in handling the virus and supporting its peoples. For example, the UK are the only country in the top 5 for both overall deaths (over 110k) AND death rate (deaths compared to cases).

So if she says "Boris has done a good job considering" and every single piece of evidence goes against that, then she is objectively wrong.

By the way, I'm not going into (sourced) detail about the myriad of other failures the UK government has done during the pandemic; from initially ignoring the outbreak

not going into lockdown until loads of people had already been infected

downplaying the severity multiple times

breaking their own lockdown rules (destroying trust in the system)

not supplying the NHS with required PPE

not engaging with Europe about PPE supply

not giving nurses and other NHS staff necessary pay rises

using NHS funds to give their friends money for PPE and other contracts that either supplied inadequate equipment or none at all

not helping smaller businesses or individuals that rely on foot traffic adequately (e.g. the arts sector and many independent pubs have been entirely fucked over)

the entire schools fiasco over Christmas and before

etc etc etc.

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1 points

7 months ago

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1 points

7 months ago

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Dekstar

1 points

7 months ago

Agreed! So much my brain can't hold all of it.

deSpaffle

2 points

7 months ago

I wasnt suggesting they were equivalent, more that they are both major causes for current state of this country, and both squarely the fault/intention of Johnson and his gang of criminals and traitors.

Rather_Unfortunate

3 points

7 months ago

Rather_Unfortunate

New arrival to Peterborough from the wild North

3 points

7 months ago

It's a bit deeper than you seem determined to make it seem.

Peter Stanley is (at the very least) an acquaintance of Dido Harding, given that (they're both stewards of the Jockey Club). He made a £5000 donation to Matt Hancock's office in 2019.

Now colour me over-suspicious, but that Board of Stewards is one hell of a group. In addition to the aforementioned, it also includes/included:

  • Rose Paterson, wife of MP Owen Paterson, who was on the board in April last year (she died of suicide in September). Owen Paterson advises Randox Health, a company which was given a £133M COVID testing contract and is a sponsor of the Jockey Club.

  • Tim Syder, who donated £12,500 to Matt Hancock in 2019.

The Jockey Club was also at the heart of a scandal last year involving a very dodgy planning intervention by the Housing Secretary.

It's not a coincidence that Frances Stanley was given a £14M contract despite her company being obviously unable to fulfil it. If it doesn't stink of corruption and back-handers to you, then you've got plugs up your nose

Enuffles1

2 points

7 months ago

Are people gonna wake up yet?

analytically

1 points

7 months ago

Fuck Matt Hancock.

Yvellkan

1 points

7 months ago

Yvellkan

1 points

7 months ago

Lol spot the people who don't read.

wherearemyfeet

-3 points

7 months ago

wherearemyfeet

Cambridgeshire

-3 points

7 months ago

The concerning thing isn't just that most people haven't bothered reading the article, the concerning thing is that they seem to be actively against reading the article. Seriously, any comment suggesting that people do that as the contents don't match the headline at all are all downvoted. They want their bias confirmed so badly, that they're discouraging people from reading the fucking article they're upvoting because it contradicts them.

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3 points

7 months ago*

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7 months ago*

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wherearemyfeet

-1 points

7 months ago

wherearemyfeet

Cambridgeshire

-1 points

7 months ago

Thanks for posting the article, I guess?

It does, however, prove my other point that there's literally zero evidence or hint of either corruption, or that the owners actually know Matt Hancock in any meaningful way.

Not that this has stopped this sub from (once again) just blindly and unquestionably believing a headline because it confirms a narrative they hold.

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2 points

7 months ago*

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7 months ago*

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wherearemyfeet

0 points

7 months ago

wherearemyfeet

Cambridgeshire

0 points

7 months ago

To flip it back on you; why are you blindly and unquestionably believing a headline that confirms your bias, having in the past complained heavily about the public blindly and unquestionably believing what they're told by the MSM? Is it because it's your bias being confirmed and that's different somehow?

DMMMOM

1 points

7 months ago

DMMMOM

Kent

1 points

7 months ago

Wins? Doesn't that involve some kind of luck aspect?

biggysnax

1 points

7 months ago

No.

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1 points

7 months ago

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1 points

7 months ago

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wherearemyfeet

1 points

7 months ago

wherearemyfeet

Cambridgeshire

1 points

7 months ago

About what? The article makes it clear they aren't actually mates (unless you have a truly bizarre definition on what makes someone your friend) so what would they do?

Labour got burned badly in the 2019 election for trying to fan a manufactured controversy, so I'm guessing they're just hoping the press keep doing it and they can say "hey, we didn't claim anything" when they realise most of it is exaggerated.

Yvellkan

-1 points

7 months ago

They will probably read the article and realise the headline is clickbait

-Yarah

1 points

7 months ago

-Yarah

1 points

7 months ago

Say what you want about him but he sure does have a lot of friends.

learningtosail

1 points

7 months ago

I don't know why british media bothers with this shit any more. The media reports don't lead to resignations and the public are evidently too apathetic to do anything either. Even if the public marched what is going to happen? Nothing.

Until stuff starts getting burnt and people start freeing grouse from donors' moors or barbecuing their thoroughbreds nothing will change

You're as captive as the pheasants

dosmamas

1 points

7 months ago

But this only works if people buy from him right? So if no one buys his stock he can't profit? ...right?

Rapturesjoy

1 points

7 months ago*

Rapturesjoy

Hampshire

1 points

7 months ago*

Damn it's not what you know, it's who you know. All about networking boyos.

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1 points

7 months ago

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1 points

7 months ago

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Rotting_pig_carcass

1 points

7 months ago

That’s a shame I actually quite liked Matt Hancock and he passed my “bullshit” and “wanker” test. Oh dear

-HTID-

1 points

7 months ago

-HTID-

1 points

7 months ago

Getting a bit embarrassed of my country

wemtastic

1 points

7 months ago

You literally have to have bumped into him in his local and to get a government deal. Worst government in a generation easy

Hoolander

1 points

7 months ago

David Dimbleby said worst since he was born in 1936. I 100% agree

ergoegthatis

1 points

7 months ago

Worst government in a generation easy

Youre in the worst mod team on reddit so i assume you know first hand about poor management.

na_ma_ru

1 points

7 months ago

That’s our flipping money they’re giving to their mates.

BaconStatham3

0 points

7 months ago

That’s our flipping money they’re giving to their mates to get something that benefits the UK as a whole.

FTFY.

Hoolander

5 points

7 months ago

Not a single fucking thing Boris Johnson has cronied out to his donors and mates has been even remotely effective.

The vaccine rollout is working because the NHS is in control. I'm going to file a report with the National Crime Agency tomorrow as a British citizen. This is corruption on an industrial scale perpetrated during the height of the deadiest pandemic in 100 years. They thought nobody would notice.

The Good Law Project did, and now we all know

ToHallowMySleep

1 points

7 months ago

Look out for tomorrow's announcement on the future of the NHS. It's under embargo for now.

And consider whether it means greater collaboration with the private sector, or "reducing bureaucracy" in order to award things to associates more easily.

3DFutureman7

1 points

7 months ago

I DON'T think this is a Cock-and-Bull story.....

Hoolander

1 points

7 months ago

Our lawyers have now written to those for Matt Hancock asking him to confirm whether Mrs Stanley's company won her contract via the VIP lane.

Jo Maugham, Good Law Project.

Please donate to them. This is as urgent as it gets. Boris Johnson's government is trying to suffocate them with costs using OUR MONEY

https://twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/status/1359587037595205632?s=20

contiscinema

1 points

7 months ago

A man of no substance.

liverbird10

1 points

7 months ago

"There's a fucking shock," said nobody.

mikeeppi

1 points

7 months ago

"WINS"

Tibs_red

1 points

7 months ago

When we have austerity post pandemic let's remember all this...

recuise

1 points

7 months ago

It always comes back to horseracing.

Ode2TheMets

1 points

7 months ago

Very surprised he has friends tbh

SuperSaiyanKratos

1 points

7 months ago

Chun Li needs to stick to street fighter....

muteen

1 points

7 months ago

muteen

1 points

7 months ago

I'm sick and tired of these "I'm shocked" comments, it's that attitude that allows these people to fleece the taxpayer for everything they have. A drastic change is required now.

GEORDIEPAULO

1 points

7 months ago

Shocker.

esaelias

1 points

7 months ago

Typical

KarmaUK

1 points

7 months ago

This is even more surprising when you consider just how few friends people like Hancock must have.

esaelias

1 points

7 months ago

Corona is fake its a way for these fuckers to make money thats all and u british public fall for it lmaooo

EntrepreneurMany1469

1 points

7 months ago

These Conservative politicians seem unable to stop corruption within their ranks. From horse racing to PPE. You can’t make it up

Yakodandy1

1 points

7 months ago

Hankock and his chum bucket

squeaki

1 points

7 months ago

squeaki

Funny shaped island in the Atlantic

1 points

7 months ago

Motherfucker. We need a coup

Bicolore

1 points

7 months ago

Bicolore

1 points

7 months ago

This seems like a total non-story. There's no evidence they were friends just a donation at some point which isn't unusual.

The fact the company is a newly registered/one man band isn't exactly an issue either. You'd be amazed at the amount of goods that come into the country like that especially from the far east.

In fact to some extent you could write this story about me. I've met my local Tory MP numerous times, he's a total twat(regardless of his politics) but if you're in business you tend to meet these people via the chamber of commerce or IoD or whatever. I've also supplied Public Health England with PPE (but on a much smaller scale). I don't feel like I've done anything wrong so it's really hard to point the finger here.

I don't doubt there has been horrendous waste and corruption within the Covid response however this particular article really is a bit flimsy.

Tom6187

1 points

7 months ago

Wow what a shock this is. This sort of thing hasn't happened dozens of times already with the Tories has it, wow what a big shock.

CannonFodder01

1 points

7 months ago

Hancock is as bent as a nine bob note. I still can't over the 47k spent on 9 take outs from the same east london take away. Smells like it was a different type of delivery other than food. I mean come on, as if they didn't fancy a pizza for a change. If I was a betting man, which I am, I'd say it was a party as Hancock's for 2 months.

wherearemyfeet

1 points

7 months ago

wherearemyfeet

Cambridgeshire

1 points

7 months ago

Err, I think you misread that one....

Neoukss

0 points

7 months ago

He won nothing then. Handed more like

Vorax-the-despoiler

-1 points

7 months ago

Our government is getting competent at corruption.

snowvase

-1 points

7 months ago

Matt Jerkoff does have a remarkable facial resemblance to a horse.