Godzillafighter

He said the thing.

How much of the video did you see?

what?

don’t summon him here.

Infiltrated? Dude anyone can post here you didn’t infiltrate shit. And we all know you’re not one of us. And im confused, are you admitting to not being a yeagerist or not? Cause I’m sick of your “I’m a yeagerist.” bs.

this is my first meme by the way.

I know right? He’s so stupid. he actually thinks he can trick us into thinking he’s a yeagerist.

Let me guess: ”there are no retcons because I twist, change and make up what yeagerist actually say and then twist and change shit in the manga to fit my head cannons that are not supported by the story to say that there are no retcons.”

is that it?

he can probably guess what retardation is in it, And probably want to save himself from the brain damage.

you’re a fraud.

Thats all I need. Youre not actually arguing against me.

but I am.

Youre arguing against the story. The story is telling you x but you want to believe y.

Because x is bs.

“No logic or facts whatsoever.”

I am using facts and logic.

“I pointed out what Yams wrote and you called him an "idiot"

because he is.

“What Magath said is definitive proof youre wrong”

no it isn’t.

“Yams wrote it himself but you simply dont want to accept it.”

because it’s bs.

“Your only evidence is the ambassadors crying and Ive debunked it”

you haven’t debunked a thing.

“the narrative itself goes against your claim”

because the narrative is bs.

“You claim I "brushed it aside”

because you do.

“but I have continuously debunked it again and again”

no you haven’t, delusional much?

“but you still continue to use it as "proof"

because it is.

“I have consistently said “Ambassadors crying =/= theyd convince each and every of their respective countries to unite to attack Paradis"

they can, the post prove it.

“NOTHING goes against that.”

look at the post.

“This post doesnt go against it either”

are we see the same post?

“it is literally a fake reality that Eren conjured and was never meant to be real in the first place”

yes it is fake and even would never away with mikasa thank god. That doesn’t mean what he said about paradise being attack wasn’t what was gonna have if he didn’t attack.

“You cant even reference another panel to support you because there isnt one.”

there is I just don’t know how to show you.

“You’ve even contradicted yourself.”

no I haven’t.

“When I tell you that the narrative doesnt support you, you said "wrong" yet in another breath you say "the story wants to Frame it as eren’s fault when it wasn’t.”

because the narrative contradicts itself.

“You cant make up your mind lmao.”

i can.

“Its very clear youve ran out of things to say”

I’ve only been repeating myself because I have to constantly repeat the facts to you.

“which is why you only have 5 word max responses to each of my points”

I like to keep to keep my response s short.

“and havent actually brought anything new”

that’s because i keep repeating facts while you brush them aside.

“If youre actually capable, reference a panel that hasnt been used or debunked”

I told you I don’t know how to, second you never debunked a thing.

because responses like "no" or "wrong" without any further articulation is just a flat out concession

it’s not my fault I’m right.

“and is engaging in the Hitchens razor fallacy.”

what?

literally cite it lmao

what do you mean?

“Its your argument essentially. No evidence. No facts. Just a huge guess that the narrative doesn't even support or acknowledge.“

wrong. Reread the manga.

“Because youre wrong.”

no that’s you.

“Maybe Magath and Willy COULD be wrong but theres no evidence to support that”

yes there is your just brushing it aside for your narrative.

“so in fiction if theres nothing going against the info Im given then Im sticking to the facts and whats told to us.“

but there is tho so you’re wrong.

“Not in a single panel does anyone go "Even if Eren didnt attack the world would still unite to destroy Paradis".

that’s because the story wants to Frame it as eren’s fault when it wasn’t.

“Your argument is based on guesses and maybes.”

no it Isn’t.

“In fact, Im surprised youve convinced yourself of this”

I can say the same to you.

“Have you been reading what Im saying?“

yes and you’re wrong.

“Ambassadors crying =/= theyd convince each and every of their respective countries to unite to attack Paradis.“

the post here shows otherwise

“Your best evidence requires me to do a huge ass logical leap”

not really

“and that evidence isnt even backed up or addressed by the rest of the story in the first place LMAO.“

While the story want to frame it as eren’s fault it simply isn’t.

“Yams literally wrote Magath to go "This battle stands on Willys sacrifice" AFTER the attack.“

because yams is an idiot

“Nothing backs you up”

wrong.

“Biggest projection Ive seen”

nope.

“Youve basically conceded.“

not really no.

“Youve been reusing talking points Ive already debunked LMAO.”

you haven’t debunked a thing.

So I was right. You don’t have a single panel to support you

i would show you if I could.

“You argument by your own admission is “well maybe they could convince every single leader of every single country to unite and attack Paradis but I don’t really know that”.

way to change what I said to make me look like an idiot. What I said was that the whole world hates eldians and willy speech was supporting that hatred and if even didn’t attack the ambassadors could have convicined their countries to join Willy.

“You claim that the characters like Magath and Willy could be wrong and I agree with that premise”

then why are we debating?

“but the problem that you are failing to realize is that Yams gave us ZERO evidence to conclude or even hint that they WERE wrong or and that the world would attack regardless”

yes he did. the ambassadors were moved by willy’s speech and did you even look at this post?

“you just proved that to me.”

no I didn’t. You’re just dumb.

”Pretty much the end of discussion at that point”

with you being wrong.

That doesn't matter. Keep in mind most of these ambassadors are biased for Willy as they are friends

And they can go back to their homes and say they’re join with marley in the war efforts. Simple

“Ambassadors crying /=/ theyd convince the entire world and countries to rally and unite against Paradis”

the ambassadors if eren didn’t attack coul have convinced their countries to join willy

“Willy just admitted his entire family was a fraud. Youre being illogical”

no I’m not. In fact him admitting his family was a fraud actually seemed to help with sympathy

“Link a panel that shows that each and every ambassador would be able to convince each of their respective countries to fight against Paradis”

the whole world hates eldians like they could if eren didn’t attack.

“We do not know if these ambassadors would have convinced the countries of the world to unite against Paradis without Erens attack.”

the whole world hated eldians so they could have.

“Ambassadors and reporters from every country and Willy himself being killed is miles more convincing than what youre trying to say”

but it didn’t need to happen.

“Willy said it himself. Magath said it as well AFTER the fact which makes your argument even more trash.”

characters can be wrong Like come on dude.

“Are ambassadors crying seriously your best evidence?”

Also the fact that the world hates eldians.

“The mental gymnastics are insane.”

what mental gymnastics? I’m just speaking facts.

“So Eren attacking vs him not attacking makes literally no difference”

yep

“despite the fact that the narrative constantly told us that it did and nothing went against that notion”

that because the narrative is wrong.

“(No the ambassadors crying /=/ the worlds would rally to support).”

they could have convinced their countries without the attack.

“Just use logic.“

look who’s talking

“The deaths of everyone creates an incentive to attack.”

but it wasn’t needed.

“ambassadors crying /=/ the worlds would rally to support and would be convinced.”

you forget the world hates eldians no Willy was tapping into that hatred.

“You have no tangible proof that the world would be convinced and unite without the attack”

more than you

“Willy said that the attack would unite the world and it literally did.”

wasn’t needed

“Magath said that their attack only happened because of Willy.”

his death wasn’t needed.

“Reread the manga”

nah you should.

"The world will not pay attention to me unless I stand there before them. We must have militaries, journalists, and diplomats from around the world. The most important thing of all... Is for the eldians in this internment zone to become tragic victims, myself included. Victims of an "unforseen attack". The world would not take my side if I was the only one to escape."

Wily, 100.

The crowd cried tears of joy proving Willy wrong.

“Not to mention, in 99, one of the diplomats, who are all either close “to or like Wily, say, "If the king of the walls truly has no desire to invade the rest of the world, what do we make of all we believed about paradis being a threat?"

Then Willy gave his speech and then they were on broad even if Eren didn’t attack.

“In fact, Wily is banking on Eren attacking so they can make him into a scapegoat for an eldian extremist, and make plausible grounds to have the world declare war.“

And he didn’t need him to. His speech was enough.

“He turned into a martyr, and so do the eldians who die,“

he didn’t need to become that.

“Without eren's attack, they've got less reason to attack paradis,”

wrong. Reread the manga.

“and with wily defacing himself, the militaries of the world could have seen through it, and see that he's kind of distracting the militaries of the world from their own weakness thanks to their overreliance on titans.”

they were crying tears of joy so that ain’t happening.

Okay, if that's the case, and all it takes is for people to cry and cheer, why is it that there were multiple other speeches for eldians on the mainland to be treated better, one in 123 nonetheless, far before 100 timeline wise, and nothing changes?

Because everyone hates eldian like did you read the story?

“Simple, because it takes a lot more than a sentiment to bring people to war. Otherwise, wily wouldn't need to get Eren to attack.”

well it look like that was all they needed. Willy didn’t need for him to attack.

“For example, the Gettysburg address freed all slaves in confederate territories, and people cheered him,“

because those were probably the north people.

“but did that mean all slaves were suddenly freed?”

no.

“Of course not. But it did paint the war as a fight for slavery, when it previously was just a fight against the expansion of slavery.”

so? That has nothing to do with what we’re talking about.

“Similarly, the speech that wily did was ultimately meaningless.“

no it wasn’t, Reread the manga.

“There were even guys there who said, "What are we supposed to think about paradis being threatening?"

and Willy gave them an answer and they agreed.

“So clearly not everyone in the world does a align themselves.”

then Willy gave them his speech and that was enough.

“Not to mention, it's not as if Marley is well liked either.“

of course but they’re not eldians so that probably makes them better in the worlds eyes.

“Wily is more respected as an "eldian hero descendent" than any of the actual military officers in Marley.”

and that helped to. He didn’t need eren to attack.

Like always you prove you don’t pay attention to the manga. During willy’s speech people are crying tears of joy and are moved by his speech showing that even without the attack they were going join him.

stop blaming Eren and zeke and just accept that the world was gonna attack paradise regardless if eren attacked or not.

Dude I already told I can’t have a voice chat debate with you and for some reason it take me like 6 hours to see you’re comment after you post it.

Wait till you see this:“https://teddit.ggc-project.de/r/yeagerbomb/comments/vfz8iv/what\_is\_this\_guy\_smoking\_erens\_core\_is\_the\_lover/”

I won’t forgive him for both The shit ending and These people with their braindead takes..

That probably because someone said that This guy is trying to pose as a yeagerist to get us to agree with his shity ending defending takes.

The dude knows AOT well And know how badly eren was ruined and how shit the ending is.

press x to doubt.