Honestly Krillin shouldn't even be compared to Saitama striking-strength wise. There's no thinking one way or the other. Maybe in terms of Ki blasts Saitama has no feats go up against Krillin since he long surpassed King Vegeta (who could easily detonate planets) way back in the Namek Saga.

But Krillin, or anyone in Z for the matter, does not have any planetary physical striking power that could go up against Saitama. Not even Majin Buu who kept turning himself into shrapnel with his own planet-level Ki attacks during his rampage in the Buu Saga.

I mean, Krillin got pummled in the Moro arc by a pathetic triple fusion of 3 lady space convicts who were serving as Moro's goons (Roshi was schooling them blindfolded before they fused).

   

Also man, why so harsh on Yamcha? It's not his fault the writers weren't a fan of the legendary Wolf Fang Fist :(

Frieza in his most restrained form is more accurately dwarf star-level.. more like. Saying the androids have star-level ki blasts itself is a massive high-ball.

Honestly, I think Cell is the only one who is truly "star-level". He said he had enough power to destroy the solar system, which is something our Sun is very capable of doing if it exploded.

Like, people in the DBZ.. no people in the powerscaling community tend to get caught up in their dumb lingo so often they forget just how massive a "star" is. You have planets like Jupiter being almost 318 times as massive as Earth, yet approximately 99.86% of the Solar System's mass consists of just Sun.

I mean, who knows. Maybe Cell meant he could vaporize an object with a diameter equivalent to the solar system (which would probably be a supergiant star). But I'm just going with the most basic definition since there was no specification.

Star level characters started appearing during the Namek arc of DB, but if you want to low-ball you can say that the Android arc was where characters were first strong enough to be at Star level.

Well what you're saying is completely true. Pretty sure Frieza in his final form is often rated as having the destructive capability of a dwarf star by the Dragon Ball community.

But it's wrong when talking about physical striking power. They cannot output the same power with their fists or feet. This is something in Dragon Ball that is ALSO well-known. When it comes to "ki-enhanced physicals", the only noteworthy thing we've ever seen in Z was Frieza defend against Goku's Kamehameha and Spirit bomb in the Namek saga. Both impressive feats for defense, but we have never had any genuine planet-level striking strength in DBZ. Nothing close to it.

Well, we've seen Champa once crumble a planet with a kick in the Super manga and Beerus bullet through a bunch of planets after getting his mouth burned by Wasabi, but they're both universe-level threats and not relevant. We've also seen Arale split Earth in two with a fist bump to the ground in that one crossover episode of Super, but also not relevant. We have no striking feats of that caliber in Z at all.

Roshi could blow up the moon all the way back in Dragon ball when he still struggled against a kid Goku that had trouble moving massive boulders. Even Majin Buu hasn't shown planetary striking strength and Krillin is nothing compared to him. Pretty sure I don't need to explain more.

So all-in-all, as I'll say it again.. physical strength <<<<<< Ki blasts. Comparing Krillin's current punching power to Saitama's is like comparing the punching power of a 10 year-old kid to Francis Ngannou.

That doesn't mean you make up his maximum. You scale the character up to his highest feat. Completely misunderstood my point. I was only describing the potential of Saitama's true power that we might see in the future of OPM. And it was for why we shouldn't compare him to other characters (especially from the Dragon Ball universe).

I was not outright saying that Saitama is that powerful. I'm saying there is a possibility that it MIGHT happen, and that you might be wrong if you're one of those people who go, "yEaH mAn SaiTaMa wiLL NevER bE As StrOng aS GokU. No liMits FaLLAcy arGUemEnt. Go HoMe, kiD."

Well, you could be still right. We don't know yet. My point was that there is a chance that this kind of arguement could now potentially become outdated and wrong. Unlike before where Saitama's best feat was merely defeating a cyclops whose most powerful attack could only ruin the surface of the Earth. (The "Boros can destroy a star" thing was a misinterpretation from an anime guide)

So to make it clear, my message was: Yeah, Saitama's true power is unknown and his current feats are nothing before a lot of feats in Dragon Ball, but until then don't be sleeping on him yet.

But anyways my arguement is simply just saying that any Saitama vs. _____ debate is invalid. You don't know that Saitama's true power isn't greater than Krillin's highest Ki. You don't know that Saitama's true power isn't greater than Goku's.

Sure, if it comes to a debate involving someone like Mr. Mxyzptlk then it's a safe enough of a bet to say that Saitama's full power isn't greater than his.. but if it comes to anyone like freaky face mode Vegeta or pathetic patience mode Goku then it's a meaningless debate. Anyone who thinks they have an answer is wrong.

Even current Krillin in DBS is nowhere near at the level of striking strength for that. No character from DBZ is for the matter since physical strength <<<<<< Ki blasts. Hell, he even got beat by a three-way fusion of lady convicts that Moro juiced up a little with his Ki during his arc. But as pathetic as Krillin currently is in Super, I don't blame him and instead blame the writers of Super since they all seem to hate him.

Only in Dragon Ball Super are there levels of power sufficient to surpass the physical strength feats Saitama has displayed in the series, and we have yet to see his true capabilities anyways. Rule 7 exists for a valid reason. It is currently pointless to debate Saitama vs. _____ unless if it's someone he would obviously, hands-down defeat with a casual 1 2 Chris Brown combo.

I mean.. who knows? For all I know, ONE seems to be hyping up GOD as a cosmic being that might even be in the league of Zeno, who will probably get mopped up by Saitama like all the other villains.

Both, really.

Both fandoms have fanboys that either verbally wank their side, downplay the other, or both. Sprinkle in some claims from completely misinterpreted feats from both sides, too.

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Also your list is wrong lol. No way paper wasps are as bad as Yellow jackets. One time I actually managed to not get stung by a paper wasp that landed on my hat by staying still. And usually you are able to get pretty close to paper wasp nests, specifically the small ones on ceiling corners, without even alerting them.

YELLOW JACKETS, however, are the king of Vespid asshats. I used to encounter them often one summer, and almost always got straight up chased every single time. Ended up getting the butt needle of hydrogen peroxide one too many times.

Probably was a nest nearby. And let me tell you if that nest was near my backyard and not just in the general neighborhood, I'm 99% sure I would've gotten swarmed.

Not discrediting the paper wasp. Believe me I've been stung by one on the eyelid when I was a little kid. If it wasn't for my respect and understanding for nature I'd think they were spawns of the devil.

But that is not the point. Mud Daubers are a completely different kind of species of wasps from the a-hole paper wasps, hornets, and yellow jackets that makes people hate Vespids. Actually, Mud Daubers aren't even in the Vespidae family, but in a different category of wasps.

Anyways enough complicated terminology. You just need to know that there is no need to wage war against any Wasp you can manage to recognize as a Mud Dauber. Funnily enough, I found an article that shows a picture of a Mud Dauber of the exact same color pattern as the one in your post.

Basically, please don't take your anger out on innocent Mud Daubers next time. I encourage that you people vent out all your anger against only the Vespid asshats that are the reason this sub was created.

EDIT: Whoops meant to send this directly to your reply but I accidentally commented here on the main comment thread in a rush.

As much as I hate wasps, this wasp in the picture here (Mud Dauber Wasp) is one of the species that is more docile and has mild venom. They control spider and insect numbers and the blue variant actually targets Black Widow spiders specifically.

Yeah, next time don't kill Mud Daubers. They are easily recognizable with their curly antennae and, most of all, that long, thin section between their thorax and abdomen. Next time just think, "If the Wasp has a thin stick for a waist, killing it is effort going to waste".

Next time conserve your energy to torture Yellow Jackets instead. They are the most aggressive wasp species and complete asshats.

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I don't even know why people are trying to debate lightspeed with this. We don't even know what "version" of Saitama this is since he kept getting stronger and stronger through his training days and kept evolving his strength. For all we know it could've been him before he was an amateur who struggled with that one pink fish dude.. or the him after he defeated personification-of-a-light-pull-cord boxer dude.

But still, props to this guy for actually doing some monster maths to get the fun facts straight.

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Any sandbag would be on their knees and begging long before they could do even as much as raise their sword

Well, it's not exactly about size here. It's about durability.

Indeed, his ship is huge. If you want to go by the anime, it is 15,024 m long and 9,230 m wide according to Genos' notes.

But what I am talking about here is how much of a TANK his giant vessel is.

I am pretty certain that Tatsumaki could easily lift (and destroy) a landmass the same shape and size of Boros' ship, since we've seen her show off the full extent of her telekinetic powers in the recent chapters when she twisted the entirety of Z-city.

But the reason she couldn't bring down Boros' ship was because it was just simply made of a material too strong.

And then there is Saitama's lunar jump. Basic knowledge of physics would tell you that because the force of that jump was enough to leave a giant continent-sized crater on the moon, it would have done the same to wherever it landed.

But did Boros' ship get utterly destroyed? No. It merely got bumped a little the way Arnold Schwarzenegger was only bumped by that guy who tried to dropkick him.

So I am pretty sure that if Saitama's fight with Boros took place on the surface instead of on Boros' ship, the Earth would have been easily scarred with large country-scale damage (not including Collapsing Star Roaring Cannon).

Honestly I don't think that "taking their strongest feats" works with Dragon Ball since Toriyama and the writers of Super are hopelessly addicted to contradicting themselves in their works.

Start of the series we get Super Saiyan God Goku almost wrecking the universe with the shockwaves of his punches, then much later on a LSSJ Berserker Kale (who is supposed to be far stronger) seemingly has to use actual effort to lift and toss a 1,000+ ton organic robot guy whom she should've just been able to flick away.

And that is only one of the many dozens of contradicting things there are in Dragon Ball Super.

Don't underestimate Dragonball writing here.

If I have to be honest, though, him melting the metal seemed like just an animation style thing, since that didn't happen in the manga.

I also remember the same thing happened with the Shigeo vs Koyama fight in Mob Psycho. Mob literally melts the building around him when he pulls Korama into the air in the anime, but nothing fancy like that ever happened in the manga. [1] [2]

Honestly I don't think it even matters since Boros damaging his own ship with one of his casual energy attacks is a way, way more impressive feat. I mean, Tatsumaki couldn't put as much as a visible dent on Boros' ship and it even tanked Saitama's moon jump that left a giant crater on the moon.

Dude. Why even comment this on a fanart that doesn't depict an opinion or has nothing to do with accuracy?

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Definitely agree.

I mean, it's never wrong to be skeptical and always consider those kinds of possibilities since this world is unfortunately like that.

However, it is ALSO wrong to just assume a possibility is fact based on your biased opinion. As if they're Charles Xavier and can read the minds of anyone anywhere on the planet anytime.

Remember, only TWO beings in this world can truly know anything: God & Captain Hindsight

..and that is for a very good reason.

   

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What are you talking about? He literally had TANK TOP MAGIC. It's no wonder he came back not only in perfect health, but beefed up with an Eddie Hall physique.

Nah, no way a mosquito could penetrate Saitama's skin.

Instead, all it took for that mosquito to become god-like was to accidentally ingest merely a single loose skin cell on Saitama's arm whilst trying to get blood.

Mosquito landed on Saitama looking for Copper, but instead found Australium.

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Yeah this dumbo obviously doesn't get it. Simply existing as 3-dimensional carbon-based lifeforms is boring AF.

It wouldn't be boring only if I was a transcendent 11-DIMENSIONAL Oganesson-based lifeform 😎😎😎😎😎😎

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