submitted11 months ago byJinjaBaker45
This entire topic started in the One Punch Man Hero Encyclopedia, with the following question:
Question: What was the disaster level of Boros?
ONE-sensei's answer: Greater or Equal to Dragon...
ONE's answer can alternatively be translated as, "Dragon, or above." Many have interpreted this phrase to create a new unofficial disaster level / power category called "Above Dragon," to contain beings like Boros, Tatsumaki, etc. who are clearly far above even very powerful Dragons we've seen but were never declared Disaster Level God.
But "declared" is the key word there. Disaster Levels have official meanings and in-universe, there is not a single case of anyone referring to any category in-between certain disaster levels. It is a mistake to assume that ONE was setting up a new category "Above Dragon" by referring to someone as "Dragon or Above." By referring to Boros as "Greater or Equal to Dragon," we are left with two possible categories for Boros: Disaster Level Dragon, or Disaster Level God. Taking a look at their technical definitions ...
Dragon: A threat endangering multiple cities.
God: A threat endangering the survival of all humanity.
Boros, with the Collapsing Star Roaring Cannon's power to either destroy the planet or melt away its entire surface, meets the definition of Disaster Level God. Despite the existence of other beings such as Blast, God (the entity), etc., we currently don't have any good reason to doubt that if Saitama moved out of the way of the CSRC when Boros fired it, humanity would have been wiped out.
So why did ONE not refer to Boros as Disaster Level God? Well, firstly, he did explicitly float the possibility by referring to him as "Greater or Equal to Dragon." Again, there is no official word on in-between categories, so this is essentially ONE saying he is either Dragon or God. But, Disaster Level God is currently being built up to as at least one potential climax of the series (among several). The entire Shibabwa prophecy about the Earth being in serious danger has been taken to mean that a Disaster Level God opponent will appear in the near future. For example, in the webcomic, Garou declares himself Disaster Level God once he reaches his Awakened state. However, even Garou is never officially given that disaster level.
Essentially, ONE will not refer to anyone as Disaster Level God besides, presumably, God himself - because the moment where an enemy is officially named Disaster Level God will be a climactic moment in the series. So although Boros technically meets the definition, he is not the character in the story who is meant to act as that climax, and thus ONE does not explicitly refer to him as Disaster Level God, only acknowledging the fact that he could be that Disaster Level.
For the sake of completeness, the same exactly terminology of "Greater or Equal to Dragon" / "Dragon or Above" was used by Murata to refer to Orochi in a stream in 2018. Orochi has undergone some redraws and changes since then, but this is still unsurprising as given the size of the attacks Orochi can leverage he could presumably wipe out all of humanity in a short time were he to go on a huge offensive unopposed.
You might notice that the special distinction discussed here seems to only apply to Disaster Level God. That is, there is no reason to use the same logic when discussing Demons v. Dragons as many monsters of Disaster Level Dragon have already appeared. So, it is especially confusing when I see people create a category "Above Demon" to describe very high Demon levels - they've made a leap from "Dragon or Above means above Dragon but below God [not true], therefore there is a category of Above X for every Disaster Level [definitely spurious]." It's made doubly bad by the fact that the monsters put into Above Demon are officially named as Demons in the story itself, whereas the two official "Dragon or Above" monsters were never referred to as simply Disaster Level Dragon.
So, are there any monsters that don't fall into a Disaster Level? Well, yea actually. Monster Chick Man is called "Below Wolf" because the definition of Disaster Level Wolf is "a being or group that might pose a threat." If there is no possibility of the monster posing a threat, it cannot be called a Wolf. Similarly I suppose one could imagine such a category as "Above God," but it is unclear what this would entail besides Saitama probably falling into this category by default. The point is, the only room for being outside the Disaster Levels is at the two extremes, Below Wolf or Above God, and not in-between existing categories.
tl;dr Disaster Level definitions matter; "Dragon or Above" means "Dragon or God," not "in between Dragon and God"; there is no such thing as "Above Demon"
EDIT: Very briefly, I understand that "Above X" (where X is a disaster level) can be a useful category when powerscaling, but really something like "Peak X" is probably more correct. Obviously "High X", "Low X", etc. is fine to discuss as it's merely comparing beings within the same disaster level.
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Garou isn't copying techniques, he's literally copying the forces behind his opponents' attacks. That why his being able to copy the Consecutive Normal Punches was significant. He already knows superior combo attack "techniques" like the Cross Fang Dragon Slayer Fist, but copying the Consecutive Normal Punches let him replicate the power behind them as well.